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Orange County Board of County Commissioners
BUDGET WORK SESSION
Thursday, November 13, 2008
7:30 pm
The Orange County Board of Commissioners met for a Work Session on Thursday, November
13, 2008 at 7:30 p.m. at the Southern Human Services Center in Chapel Hill, N.C.
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Chair Barry Jacobs and Commissioners Moses
Carey, Jr., Valerie Foushee, Alice M. Gordon, and Mike Nelson
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ABSENT:
COUNTY ATTORNEY PRESENT:
COUNTY STAFF PRESENT: County Manager Laura Blackmon, Assistant County
Managers Willie Best and Gwen Harvey, and Deputy Clerk to the Board David Hunt (All other
staff members will be identified appropriately below)
NOTE: ALL DOCUMENTS REFERRED TO IN THESE MINUTES ARE IN THE
PERMANENT AGENDA FILE IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE
1. 2009-19 County Capital Investment Plan
Chair Jacobs called the meeting to order at 7:32 pm.
Laura Blackmon said that the staff presentation was made at the last Board meeting.
She asked for direction from the Board on the County CIP.
Commissioner Gordon made reference to the increase of the budget from last year to
this year and noted that some of the project cost figures have increased. She asked the staff
to look at those and see if there could be any savings.
Chair Jacobs made reference to ADA improvements and said that if he were disabled,
he would be offended that Orange County is taking its time to make buildings accessible. He
asked about Appendix C and how the money is allocated.
Public Works Director Wilbert McAdoo said that the first point was to look at building
access and the number of people that come to the building.
Chair Jacobs asked for a document that shows what is being done and how much of it
can be done in a short period of time. He suggested inviting someone who is in a wheelchair to
the building to see if they can get in. Wilbert McAdoo said that this was done and this is how
the priority list was developed.
Commissioner Gordon asked clarifying questions about why some budget items
increased from last year so significantly. These questions were answered by Purchasing and
Central Services Director Pam Jones. Commissioner Gordon said that she would like to find
savings in these projects so some of the money could be re-allocated.
Chair Jacobs said that almost all of the park spending is pushed out to the end of the 10-
year period. He suggested putting all park projects on the same page and having a
conversation about them in the near future. Parks need to be acknowledged as a higher
priority.
Commissioner Gordon said that there is $275,000 for stabilization of Blackwood Farm at
New Hope, and at one other proposed park but the source of that money is the Twin Creeks
Park bond. She does not want to make that kind of allocation because of the promise to the
voters to use the bond money for Twin Creeks Park. There is no Twin Creeks Park. She said
that the $275,000 should come from someplace else and the bond money should be left in the
Twin Creeks bond.
Laura Blackmon said that staff was looking at not having enough money to develop even
the first phase of Twin Creeks Park. The suggestion was that the funds be used to stabilize the
two facilities at Blackwood Farm.
Environment and Resource Conservation Director Dave Stancil said that the Board,
before the summer break, authorized $150,000 of the Twin Creeks funds to go into the work
that is ongoing at the barn and the house at Twin Creeks.
Commissioner Gordon wants to have a conversation about what to do about Twin
Creeks.
Commissioner Gordon pointed out that the County Campus and Library project is over
budget by $150,000.
Laura Blackmon made reference to Capital Repairs and Replacements and said that this
was being funded by the additional penny and it has not been funded in the past.
Chair Jacobs continued reading through each item.
Chair Jacobs asked about the Efland sewer extension and if there was going to be an
update on this. Laura Blackmon said that staff was working on this.
Commissioner Gordon made reference to Reserve for Future Land Purchases and said
that she would like to see this labeled "Lands Legacy/Reserve for Future Land Purchases."
Regarding Library Facility, Commissioner Nelson made reference to the project
description and partnering with the town and said that a policy has not been set in this regard.
He said that his preference is that he does not want to see "policy decisions" made in the CIP.
He does not want to see a policy imbedded in the CIP.
Commissioner Gordon said that originally she had thought that this line item was for
Southwest Orange-Carrboro Library. After reading it, she thought it was a reserve just for
libraries. She would like to take a serious look at the Southwest library.
Commissioner Gordon asked that the Mountains to Sea Trail be listed as "Lands
Legacy/Mountains to Sea Trail."
Chair Jacobs made reference to the Northern Human Services Center Renovation and
that there has been discussion about reworking how the building is being used. He asked to
flag this.
Chair Jacobs made reference to Northern Park and that during the budget process there
was discussion about having a soft opening in October and a grand opening in the spring.
Laura Blackmon said that there is still some construction and there is concern about access on
an active construction site. Parks and Recreation Director Lori Taft said that there have been
delays due to the weather and decisions about lighting on the field. She said that she is holding
fast to the date of mid-April for the grand opening.
Chair Jacobs would like to see a follow-up decision or an explanation.
Regarding the Public Works campus, Commissioner Gordon said that she would like to
have a discussion about the master plan. Wilbert McAdoo said that parking and storage was
needed, as well as expansion of office space.
Chair Jacobs asked staff to track what the County is paying for rent at Carr Mill Mall and
how that might relate to paying debt service for a dental clinic.
Regarding Twin Creeks, Commissioner Gordon would like to do something like a linear
park there so that at least people can walk around there. She would also like to find out
whether we have enough funding to build the soccer fields there.
Chair Jacobs said that there is a suggestion for another use for the soccer money.
Commissioner Foushee asked for staff to go back and look at the items flagged to
determine how much can be pulled to amount to the $275,000 to go towards the stabilization
projects and not use the bond funds for Twin Creeks.
Chair Jacobs made reference to the Reserve for Future Land Purchases and if this
tracked purchasing conservation easements. Dave Stancil said that this fund is open-ended
and could be used for a lot of different types of land purchases.
Donna Coffey said that staff could bring a follow-up list of flagged items at the December
1st meeting.
2. Review of Capital Project Funds
Financial Services Director Gary Humphreys made reference to the abstract and the
chart on the second page. The net shortfall amount was an estimate and is still about $780,000
for county projects. The total of both funds (school capital and County capital project funds) is a
$5,921,689 shortfall.
Chair Jacobs said that there was some alarm at this at the last meeting and he asked
Gary Humphreys to explain this again.
Laura Blackmon said that the staff had a superintendents' meeting yesterday and the
same information was provided.
Gary Humphreys and Laura Blackmon walked through what happened and why there
was a difference between the budgeted and actual revenues during fiscal year 2003.
Commissioner Nelson said that a citizen asked him exactly what happened and who did
not do their job. Laura Blackmon said that there was a difference in a way some of the
accountings were done. On the one hand, it happened when the software was changed. She
does not think that there was any malfeasance. The money was there, but needed to be
accounted for.
Commissioner Nelson asked if the people who were responsible for this had left and
Laura Blackmon said that she would say yes. Commissioner Nelson said that people are really
upset about this and he needs to be able to answer the questions about who is responsible. He
asked if there was still a plan to issue bonds to replace this $5 million. Gary Humphreys said
that it is not to replace money but to complete the park bond projects. Laura Blackmon said that
the bond monies have not been spent and the projects have not been completed.
Chair Jacobs said that he was struck by the goal of the 15% fund balance, which he
never recalls ordering. His sense is that somehow the fund balance was fluffed up so that it
looked larger than it was.
Laura Blackmon said that it was her understanding that 15% was a target, but she did
not go back and research to see if the Board adopted that before she arrived.
Commissioner Gordon and Commissioner Foushee spoke in support of some type of
internal control so that this does not happen again.
The issue of the revenue shortfall will come back to the Board as a separate package,
along with policies and procedures, which will take some time to develop.
3. Properties Subject to Potential Divestiture
The Board decided to address this another time, but Commissioner Nelson had some
questions.
Commissioner Nelson said that it would help him if there were recommendations about
which properties the staff thinks are worthwhile to keep and divest.
4. Presentation of Schools' 2009-19 Capital Investment Plan
- Chapel Hill-Carrboro City Schools
CHAPEL HILL-CARRBORO CITY SCHOOLS
2009-19
CAPITAL INVESTMENT PLAN
2009-10 CIP Funding Allocation
•ADA Requirements 50,000
•Abatement Projects 195,000
•Electrical Systems 100,000
•Fire/Safety Systems 175,000
•Indoor Air Quality 195,000
•Mechanical Systems 559,709
•Rental Space/Mobiles 120,000
•Roofing Projects 1,218,790
•Window Replacements 206,210
•Technology 1,210,000
•TOTAL 4,029,709
2009-19 CIP Funded Projects
•Lincoln Center Infrastructure Replacements
-Windows 2009-10
-Roof 2009 to 2011
-HVAC and Exterior Improvements 2010-11
-$1.6 million over two years
•Lincoln Center improvements result in New Central Office and Conversion of Lincoln Center
into an Educational Facility removed from the Unfunded Section
2009-19 CIP Funded Projects
•Elementary School #11
-$32.9 million Budget Estimate
-$974,000 approved for Professional Fees
-Development plans are progressing on
schedule to open school in 2011-12
2009-19 CIP Unfunded
Deferred Maintenance and Improvement Projects
•CIP Funding reduced by $6.4 million due to deteriorating financial projections and budgeted
financing for Elementary School #11
Deferred Maintenance and Improvement Projects of$5.7 million include:
-classroom casework replacements at CHHS, Phillips, and Seawell
-lighting improvements at Culbreth, Phillips, Ephesus, FP Graham, and Seawell
-Culbreth HVAC distribution upgrades and digital controls at McDougle campus,
Glenwood and Culbreth
-anticipated roof replacements at Glenwood and Phillips
-CHHS stadium field's synthetic surface and gymnasium bleacher replacement
-parking lot and driveway repairs at CHHS, Seawell, Estes Hills, and Phillips
2009-19 CIP Unfunded
New Schools and Facilities
• Projects Removed from Unfunded Section
-Elementary School #11
-New Central Office
-Conversion of Lincoln Center into an
Educational Facility
2009-19 CIP Unfunded
New Schools and Facilities
•Carrboro High School (adjusted from spreadsheet)
-Cultural Arts additions $8.6 million
open 2010-11
-Classroom addition $17.5 million
SAPFO required in 2015-16
-Athletic Facilities addition $4.6 million
open 2015-16
2009-19 CIP Unfunded
New Schools and Facilities
•Middle School #5
-Budget Estimate $50.7 million
-SAPFO required in 2013-14
•Elementary School #12
-Budget Estimate $44 million
-SAPFO required in 2017-18
2009-19 CIP Unfunded
Existing Schools and Facilities
•Lincoln Center Addition
-Budget Estimate $6.6 million
-open in 2015-16
'Culbreth Middle School Science Labs
-Budget Estimate $4 million
-open in 2015-16
'McDougle Middle School Auditorium
-Budget Estimate $6.6 million
-open in 2015-16
- Orange County Schools
Orange County Schools
Capital Investment Plan
2009-2019
CIP Process
•10-Year Projection
•Assessments Based on Unconstrained Resources
•Inputs
➢Board of Education
Superintendent&Associate Superintendent
Principals
Maintenance Director
Strategic Plan
Ages of School Facilities
SCHOOL YEAR OPENED
CPES 1956
CES 1952
ECES 1952
GABES 1974
HES 1952
NHES 1991
PES 2000
ALSMS 1995
CWSMS 1968
G H MS 2006
CRHS 2002
OHS 1962
PAAS 2007
Ages of Ancillary Facilities
FACILITY YEAR OPENED
Board of Education 1971
Maintenance Office 1940
Transportation Office 1971
2008-2009 Funding Received
CIP Recurring Capital
$2,281,700 $991,630
Prioritization of Projects
•Renovating Older Buildings
•Health/Safety Issues (HVAC and air quality)
•GREEN Retrofitting
•Equity Issues (updating science, auditoriums)
Commissioner Gordon spoke in support of upgrading science and math facilities at the
middle school level, especially Stanford and Culbreth.
Chair Jacobs asked about the unfunded projected elementary school and suggested
purchasing some land. George McFarley said that OCS is looking in the western part of the
County for some land. The goal is for the school to open in 2014.
A motion was made by Commissioner Gordon, seconded by Commissioner Nelson to
adjourn the meeting at 9:47 pm.
Barry Jacobs, Chair
Donna S. Baker, CMC
Clerk to the Board