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Meeting Summary
October 22, 2019
3:30pm - 5:00pm
Southern Human Services Building, 2S01 Homestead Rd, Chapel Hill
Attendees: Mark Marcoplos (Chair), Brennan Bouma (staff), Cathy Cole, Raymond DuBose,
Tyrone Fisher, Hongbin Gu, Caroline Hansley-Mace, Laura Janway, Kathy Kaufman,
Adam Long, Melissa McCullough, Sara Pitts, Anna Richards, Donna Rubinoff, Owen
Ryerson, Dan Schnitzer, Sammy Slade, Mary Tiger, Stephanie Trueblood,Joshua Van
Mater,Jenn Weaver
I. Call to Order- Marcoplos called the meeting to order at 3:35pm. Council members
introduced themselves for the benefit of new members.
II. Approval of Draft Meeting Summary from Sept 24, 2019—A motion was made to
approve the meeting summary as written by McCullough, and this was seconded by
Kaufman.The meeting summary was approved unanimously.
Ill. Selection of Vice-Chair—Slade confirmed that he was interested in the position, but in the
interest of diversity he would nominate McCullough. Gu indicated her interest as well.
Marcoplos opened the idea of creating a nominating committee to help Council members,
many of whom do not know one another, to make a more informed decision. He explained
that this would be a small sub-group of the Council who would communicate with each of
the members about each nominee and track their preferences. In the event of a close race,
the nominating committee would report back to the Council and the race would be decided
with an open vote.This process would allow members more time to decide and would avoid
a public debate.Tiger, Kaufman, and Ryerson volunteered to be the nominating committee.
Gu and McCullough gave brief descriptions of their backgrounds, and agreed to submit a
more detailed description in writing to the Nomination Committee.
Bouma asked for Nominating Committee to speak with him after the meeting to make a plan
as the next meeting would be coming up a week earlier to avoid the week of the
Thanksgiving holiday.
Hansley-Mace reminded the Council that new members had not been able to weigh in on
earlier meeting scheduling discussions, and she requested a new poll to be sent out to select
the ongoing meeting time for the group. Bouma asked Council members to attempt to
choose a meeting day and time for the November meeting today and then said he would will
send out a poll for the ongoing meeting time. Council members identified November 19tn
and 215t as their preferred dates. Based on their desire to stay open to evening meetings in
their desire to be inclusive of the student and professional members,who could not attend
during business hours, Bouma said he would create a poll for those two dates that include
evening times.
IV. Discussion of Climate Council Diversity—Weaver then led a discussion of the diversity of
the Climate Council. She made it clear that her intent was not to disparage anyone who has
volunteered their time to join the Climate Council, but there are long-standing forces that
have limited the diversity in our group. She feels that the work of the Council needs to be
grounded in benefitting underserved communities who will be most impacted by climate
change. She added that one thing that would help us is to have a clear mission and values,
so that equity is not an add-on after the fact.
Slade agreed and added that representation is also important. Diversity was a component of
the way Carrboro tried to make their At-Large position decision.
McCullough offered that a lack of diversity is a long-standing problem in the environmental
protection field. She said the Council needs to make strides on diversity while not limiting
someone's credentials to only their minority status.
Kaufman said that people of color are better represented in the environmental justice field,
and recommended reaching out to the Rogers Eubanks Neighborhood Alliance and other
such groups. Richards said that she had already reached out to Rev. Campbell from RENA
when she saw this on the agenda,to see if he could recommend someone if the Council
decided to open up the a space for them to participate. Richards also pointed out that the
time of the meeting is problematic for their student representative who is a person of color.
Rubinoff said that we should work to diversify, and we should keep diversity in our mission
and process we use to make each decision.The Council's processes might be excluding the
people we aim to benefit, and this goes beyond who is represented on the Council.
Hansley-Mace said that there seems to be a good amount of agreement on this being part of
our mission, and thought it might be good to lay out our mission. She offered to be on a
committee to draft a mission statement if others would like to join.
Marcoplos gave the history of how the initial list of organizations and positions was created
for the Climate Council. Racial and age diversity were both considered and spaces were
created for both racial minorities and students. It seems the Council was relatively successful
in bringing in youth. Marcoplos and Weaver have both been talking to the Northern Orange
Chapter of the NAACP to continue to encourage them to fill their reserved positions.
Weaver offered to join Hansley-Mace on the mission and visioning committee.
Gu reinforced the importance of income diversity as well since poor communities might be
most impacted by climate change and have fewest alternatives. She also highlighted that
they might not have time to attend meetings. Another key group to Gu is small business, and
this depends on good communication because they are also time-limited. In Gu's opinion,
they should be invited to be part of our team, perhaps through representatives from the
Chambers of Commerce.
Marcoplos agreed with making an additional push for diversity and also cautioned that there
is a limit to the number of representatives that can productively join a meeting in this
format.
Richards also amplified the need to clarify the vision for this group and include racial equity
in that mission and volunteered to join the committee that will be drafting the mission
statement,values, and priorities. Richards recommended having everyone on the Council
participate together in a structured visioning process so that then everyone can own it as it
sets a framework for the way forward.
Rubinoff and Hansley-Mace backed up Richards' idea as being worth spending the time on
here at the start of the Council's work.
Hansley-Mace offered once more to form subcommittee to work in the interim and draft
something to bring back to the group. Weaver asked if this was what Richards had in mind.
Richards agreed that a subcommittee was important to come up with a format and process,
and said that she liked the idea of working to craft a vision before the end of the year. It was
agreed that the Council would need meetings in November and December to meet this goal.
Hansley-Mace, Weaver, Richards, and Rubinoff volunteered to form the agreed-upon
committee.
McCullough recommended that as a part of the creation of the Council's mission and vision,
we include a silent brainstorming element or ask people to send in ideas. Gu said that this
could be done through a survey as the Chapel Hill Town Council had done previously. Cole
recommended Slack as a platform for communication and Kaufman agreed. Bouma
highlighted the need to maintain transparency and public records and said that he would ask
about the use of tools such as Slack and Google Drive within those constraints.
V. Discussion of Strengths/Challenges of Climate Council—Marcoplos introduced this
discussion with an acknowledgement of the challenge faced by the Climate Council as well
as an appreciation for the will of Council members to engage this challenge. He said that this
discussion would help the Council "admire the problem" before attempting to solve it so
that we could increase the clarity of our approach.
Bouma began the discussion of the inherent strengths and challenges of a group such as the
Climate Council to serve as context for evaluating the proposed joint projects. He
highlighted that in the last meetings the Council had highlighted information sharing as a
strength, both among members as well as out to County residents.
A challenge was shared by Gu in reference to the previous discussion that the Council does
not represent all of the key interests and diverse perspectives we've identified, including the
private sector. She offered that perhaps a survey could be used to help the Council make an
inventory of the expertise of the members.
Marcoplos agreed that engagement with the private sector was a challenge for the Council.
The Chambers of Commerce were previously considered, but had not yet been contacted
due to concerns about the influence of Duke Energy.
Slade offered that another strength of the Council might be in the ability to leverage the
physical infrastructure controlled by all members. He recalled previous Council discussions
about limitations to influencing the community at large, and thought the Council might have
a greater impact if it could facilitate the common purchasing of vehicles and clean energy
technologies.
Hansley-Mace offered that the Council has a strength in being one of the first groups of its
kind in at least the state.This allows the Council to define its role.
Rubinoff thought that the Council would make a strong advocate to other regional entities
and coordinate actions with them based on an analysis of greenhouse gas impacts. She
recommended that the Council stay at a high level and address issues and problems held in
common where individual action is not sufficient such as the planning for the 15-501
corridor. She also asked if anyone knows of a hub for climate information. Kaufman said that
lots of hubs already exist and they have different focus areas. Perhaps the Council could help
to point to those information hubs such as ACEEE and DSRIE. McCullough said that the new
climate action coalition is beginning to gather easy-to-understand informational pieces. Gu
offered that Chapel Hill has a new climate action website with information that is right in
line with what the Council seems to be looking for.
Richards offered that another weakness of the Council was conflicting priorities. Given the
mix of public and non-profit groups on the Council, it may be challenging to unify around
common goals and strategies.
Cole observed that the Council has a recurring tension between the desire for quick action
and need for a clear and inclusive vision and mission.
Kaufman highlighted that the Council needs a process of how to organize and evaluate
projects.
Bouma thanked the group for their thoughts on this topic and illustrated that this discussion
of strengths and weaknesses will be used in part to build project assessment criteria that
were informed by the capacities of the Council.
VI. Identifying and Categorizing Joint Project Ideas—Based on the length of time needed for
previous agenda items and the identified need to clarify the Council's mission in advance of
assessing joint projects, Marcoplos recommended we move this discussion to a later
meeting and instead offer an opportunity to hear other ideas and reflections from Council
members who had not actively participated in previous discussions.The Council agreed.
Fisher said that he will be keeping this group in mind when working with his colleagues at NC
State University.
Janway said that it is good that the Council is helping to broaden the climate change
conversation and accommodate all perspectives.
Pitts liked the idea of aligning policies and leveraging ideas from others. With Orange County
Schools being a small district Climate Council is helping to bring useful resources and
research back that there would not otherwise be time to collect.
Schnitzer agreed that the alignment of policies is helpful, as will long-term advocacy, and he
highlighted the need for short term actions.
Trueblood offered a reminder that the Council's challenge is time and that there is not much
time to plan. She recommended a process where the Council goes ahead and pushes for a
list of policies and low-hanging fruit that can be acted on immediately while more deliberate
plans were taking shape. She also offered the perspective that it is easy for the focus of the
Council to be about people, but we should also work to counter impacts on environmental
quality(habitat and wildlife) and acknowledge that people are part of an environmental
system.
Van Mater said that he was concerned about nailing down the Council's values and
expressed a concern about what he felt was an unclear resolution to the mitigation and
resilience discussion in the first meeting.
Ryerson said that as a student,this is an exciting way to engage with community. UNC plays
a big part in the total emissions picture for Orange County and students have a strong voice.
Long stated that he was excited to be here and was happy to be seen as a resource to assist
the group.
Tiger said that she was thinking about the data the Council could use to aggregate to
illustrate a bigger picture and how to use that to help guide action. She also encouraged
outreach to marginalized communities as the Council moves forward.
VI I. Adjournment—Marcoplos asked for a motion to adjourn the meeting and this was provided
by Fisher and seconded by McCullough.The Council voted unanimously to adjourn the
meeting at S:OOpm.