HomeMy WebLinkAboutAPPROVED March 23, 2023 Schools Safety Task Force Meeting Summary APPROVED
Orange County Schools Safety Task Force
Meeting Summary
Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 5:30 PM
Donna S. Baker Meeting Room
Whitted Human Services Center
300 West Tryon Street, Hillsborough, NC
Members Present: Ari Schein, Cassie Rice, Kate O'Boyle, Richard Bradford, Evan
Sredzienski, Jean Hamilton, Earl McKee, Andre Richmond, Tina
Sykes, Chris Atack, Paul Bell, Andy Simmons
Alternates Present: Andre Stewart, Patrick Abele, Andrew Poole, George Griffin
Members Absent: Evelyn Estrada Hernandez, Rani Dasi, Nyah Hamlett, Monique Felder
Alternates Absent: Tracy Holloway, Jonathan McVey
(Note: Student members from Chapel Hill Carrboro City Schools had not yet been
determined.)
Facilitator: Jay Bryan, Retired District Court Judge
Staff Present: Greg Wilder from the Orange County Manager's Office
1. Welcome and Introductions
Commissioner and Task Force Co-Chair Earl McKee welcomed everyone to the meeting
and expressed appreciation for members' willingness to serve on the Schools Safety Task
Force (SSTF). Commissioner and Task Force Co-Chair Jean Hamilton also welcomed
everyone and thanked them for their service.
Task Force members and alternates who had not attended the first Task Force meeting
on February 23, 2023 briefly introduced themselves to everyone.
2. Approval of February 23, 2023 Meeting Summary
Co-Chair McKee asked if there were any changes to the February 23, 2023 Meeting
Summary that was distributed with the meeting agenda materials. With no changes, Task
Force Member Richard Bradford motioned to approve the Meeting Summary. Task Force
Alternate Patrick Abele seconded the motion, and the motion was approved unanimously.
3. General Overview of Safety and Law Enforcement Practices and Activities at
Schools Regarding:
• Protests/Demonstrations
• Active Assailants
• Public Access to School Property During School Hours Review of the Task
Force Charge and Timeline
Co-Chair McKee introduced the topic, noting that representatives from the four law
enforcement agencies on the Task Force would speak, followed by representatives from
both school systems. It was further noted that Facilitator Jay Bryan had mailed three
questions to assist the speakers in framing their comments. Those questions were:
• What is happening within the schools to address these safety areas?
• What is one example of school safety challenges in the three areas?
• How do law enforcement and the schools coordinate to protect schools and
address these safety areas?
Task Force Member Tina Sykes shared information regarding efforts related to schools
and Protests/Demonstrations, noting that pre-planning meetings occur for an upcoming
event, increased law enforcement is provided, and there is a debriefing after an event.
She noted that school safety challenges included educating people on criminal behavior
versus anti-social behavior, and explaining the constitutional and statutory limitations
placed on law enforcement. She added that communication was key in coordinating
school safety and having a clear understanding of everyone's roles, and that pre-planning
meetings with all the agencies involved was important.
Regarding school safety activities related to Active Assailants, Task Force Member Sykes
commented that Certified School Resource Officers (SROs) were present in all Orange
County Schools, including the elementary schools. She noted that SROs conduct annual
Active Assailant training utilizing the Orange County school campuses and that the
Sheriff's Office has a field training program for new deputies which includes time at
Orange County schools to become familiar with school layouts. She also referenced the
Say Something anonymous reporting system as well as SROs being on sight for in-
person reporting. She noted school layouts and social media as challenges in this area.
In preparation for potential events, Task Force Member Sykes noted the ongoing and
frequent communication that occurs and quarterly public safety meetings involving law
enforcement, fire department personnel and emergency medical services. Annual
training also occurs for school resource officers and administration, and there are
planning sessions involving schools and the Sheriff's Office in preparation for an
upcoming event involving schools and public. In addition, after an event, an after-action
meeting occurs discuss the pros and cons.
Regarding safety activities related to public access during school hours, Task Force
Member Sykes noted the presence of School Resource Officers in the building, the Visitor
Management System, and efforts to eliminate risks associated with the public on school
campuses during the school day, such as no school/teacher work day on Election Day.
She noted that educating students and staff concerning the importance of limiting access
to buildings was a challenge. Coordinating to protect schools included: ongoing and
frequent communication; planning sessions involving schools and the Sheriff's Office in
preparation for an upcoming event with multiple meetings with all agencies involved;
signage, and conducting after-action meetings to discuss what went well and what was
learned from events
Task Force Member Andy Simmons shared that Captain Sykes had addressed all the
relevant issues and that there was not much additional to share. He commented that the
Hillsborough Police Department partners with the Sheriff's Office in school safety efforts
and events and with the school safety staff and administration.
Task Force Member Chris Atack stated that Carrboro law enforcement coordinated with
the Chapel Hill Police Department, the Sheriff's Office and school safety staff. He
referenced the assignment of School Resource Officers (SROs) in Chapel Hill Carrboro
City Schools (CHCCS) middle schools and high schools and that SROs were not located
in the CHCCS elementary schools. He noted that relationships were critical to planning
for and ensuring safety.
Task Force Member Atack continued that Carrboro provided investigative support to the
schools and helped with threat assessments, and noted that public access to school
facilities was a challenge to address. He added that Carrboro law enforcement conducted
both in-service training and field training to plan for and address school safety concerns
and events.
Task Force Member Paul Bell shared that the previous speakers had covered most of the
issues and that there was not much additional to share. He confirmed that Chapel Hill
law enforcement utilized the same strategies to support the schools and safety.
Task Force Alternate Andre Stewart shared that Captain Sykes had covered the topic for
everyone. He noted that communication was key, and daily communication was
important. He commented on the public access concerns related to schools and
referenced visitor management, schools closure on election days, and meetings that
occur on school campuses. He referred to the Standard Response Protocols and the five
steps utilized to coordinate work between the schools and law enforcement, and noted
that safety plans are shared with the CHCCS Board of Education.
Task Force Alternate Patrick Abele expressed appreciation to law enforcement, including
the 911 center, for their efforts related to school safety. He noted that a definite challenge
for schools is the unknown demonstration or protest that might occur and its impact on
students, staff, school access and the school property. For known events, school safety
plans are in place, but not for unknown events. He also noted that safety planning for
school board meetings is different from planning for schools since schools have limited
public access, and school board meetings have different protocols and processes. He
continued that Orange County Schools (OCS) staff work with law enforcement both
before and after events and are always looking for ways to work better together.
Task Force Alternate Andrew Poole echoed that most of the issues had already been
mentioned and that OCS worked well with the Sheriff's Office. He referenced the Center
for Safer Schools as a good resource for training and learning about first-time events and
efforts. He shared that addressing the public access issue was a challenge when working
in older facilities with outdated designs and that communication and collaboration were
the biggest factors for safety.
Task Force Alternate Abele noted that one significant challenge was school threats and
reminding students that they were not jokes. He referenced the need for additional mental
health resources, as students making threats often involves other factors leading to those
threats.
Co-Chair McKee then opened the floor to questions and discussion. Task Force Member
Bradford asked about efforts during unexpected events. Task Force Member Atack
commented that the school was in charge of the property and could choose to provide
access or not. Law enforcement focused on the streets and adjoining properties and
attempted to guide the event participants, balancing school needs and the right to protest.
Task Force Alternate Poole added that you can ask "what if?" every single day, and that
the work of safety is dealing with unexpected events. He noted that every event is
different and it is hard to plan for every single one.
Task Force Member Kate O'Boyle asked about the SROs not being in CHCCS
elementary schools. Task Force Member Atack shared that CHCCS elementary schools
previously included SROs, but not now.
Task Force Alternate Stewart commented that CHCCS looked at safety in layers, and
that SROs are a single layer. He noted that there were mental health staff in the schools,
and that CHCCS used a lot of different things through those layers to prepare for the
unknown.
Task Force Alternate Abele added that OCS did have SROs in schools, including
elementary, which provided a solid foundation. He noted a need to address school
parking lots as well as the question of where does school property begin and end and the
associated road right-of-ways. He added that the public is very confused about use of
school facilities, such as tennis courts, and why schools were locking gates and not
providing the available lights so the public could use the school facilities. He indicated an
interest in the group hearing from attorneys and the North Carolina Department of
Transportation about road right-of-ways, and the struggle between first amendment rights
and the interruption of school access/functions.
Task Force Member Ari Schein read from North Carolina General Statute 36A, and
commented that he had previously suggested the Task Force pursue presentations from
attorneys. Task Force Alternate Stewart noted that the 36A provisions were included in
CHCCS policy.
Co-Chair Hamilton commented that understanding how 36A might be interpreted,
understood and translated into an ordinance could be explored.
Task Force Member Bradford asked about the County's Facility Use Policy as referenced
in a memo written by County Attorney John Roberts. It was noted that Policy did not
apply to school facilities and property, and that schools had their own independent
policies.
Task Force Alternate Abele indicated that one significant current challenge for OCS was
the public accessing schools buses during bus routes. It was noted that this scenario
was currently not a problem for CHCCS.
Task Force Member Bradford asked about a permitting process for
protests/demonstrations. Task Force Alternate Abele responded that it would be helpful
and provide an opportunity to be prepared and plan for safety needs. Task Force Member
Simmons shared that the Town of Hillsborough did have a permitting process and that
some are simply not going to go through the process. Task Force Member Bradford
added that a permitting process may just keep the honest people honest. Co-Chair
Hamilton commented that a permitting process may actually benefit those protesting with
additional safety measures in place and law enforcement present. Task Force Member
Simmons added that it would give permit seekers the opportunity to request additional
safety resources and allow for schools and law enforcement to plan.
Additional discussion by Task Force members noted that CHCCS did not have a specific
policy regarding SROs in elementary schools, and that SROs were focused on safety
issues internal to school facilities.
Co-Chair McKee inquired about the enhanced control of school access points. Task
Force Alternate Stewart shared that CHCCS was working with students, staff and visitors
on that effort, as well as facility improvements. Task Force Alternate Abele noted that
entry vestibules and limited access to exterior doors were pursued, noting that
Hillsborough Elementary's exterior door access presented a greater challenge.
Concluding the topic discussion, Task Force Alternate Abele shared that OCS developed
Event Safety Plans and utilized Crowd Safety Managers for large events. Task Force
Alternate Stewart noted that CHCCS assigned a Point Person with law enforcement for
after-hours events.
4. Additional Discussion on Task Force Meeting Locations
Co-Chair McKee moved the discussion forward, noting that in follow-up to the discussion
at the February 23, 2023 Task Force meeting, there had been some concerns raised
regarding the Task Force meeting at schools.
Task Force Member Simmons commented that he had concerns related to the Task
Force meeting at schools. A school facility would not be a controlled environment like
Whitted, and having the opportunity for the public to freely roam a school during a Task
Force meeting was a concern and would potentially make a soft target even softer.
Task Force Member Bradford noted that meeting at a school would not necessarily be
beneficial.
Co-Chair McKee stated that meeting at Whitted, the Bonnie B. Davis Center in
Hillsborough, and the Solid Waste Operations Center in Chapel Hill may be preferred
options.
5. Future Task Force Meeting Dates/Schedule
Co-Chair McKee stated that the Task Force's hard deadline for completion of its work
was the end of June 2023. After some additional discussion, the group generally agreed
to reserve the following future meeting dates and locations:
• April 13, 2023 — Baker Meeting Room, Whitted Center, Hillsborough — 5:30 pm
• April 27, 2023 — Bonnie B. Davis Environmental & Agricultural Center Meeting
Room, Hillsborough — 5:30 pm
• May 11 , 2023 — Solid Waste Operations Center Meeting Room, Chapel Hill — 5:30
pm
• May 25, 2023 — Baker Meeting Room, Whitted Center, Hillsborough — 5:30 pm
• June 8, 2023 — Solid Waste Operations Center Meeting Room, Chapel Hill — 5:30
pm
• June 22, 2023 — Baker Meeting Room, Whitted Center, Hillsborough — 5:30 pm
6. Other Issues
Co-Chair Hamilton referenced a previous concern regarding the Task Force charge also
including school staff. After some brief discussion, Co-Chair Hamilton shared that she
would pursue an update to the Task Force charge with the Board of Commissioners.
Co-Chair Hamilton inquired regarding the Task Force's interest in a representative from
the Center for Safer Schools making a presentation to the group. After some brief
discussion, it was determined that a presentation would be pursued, potentially for an
April 27t" meeting. A presentation from the school attorneys, the Sheriff's Office attorney,
and the county attorney would be pursued for an April 13t" meeting.
Task Force Member Cassie Rice asked regarding the Task Force's opportunity to discuss
mental health issues. Co-Chairs Hamilton and McKee noted shared that mental health
issues were not within the Task Force's limited charge and that other efforts were
occurring within the County to address mental health needs.
Co-Chair McKee inquired with members regarding the Task Force providing an
opportunity for public comments at some point. He shared that public comments had not
been a feature of previous task forces on which he had served. Task Force Member
Bradford confirmed that had been his experience as well. Task Force Alternate Abele
commented that the Task Force included students and that should be factored in as any
opportunity for public comments was considered. Co-Chair Hamilton suggested that the
Co-Chairs discuss this matter further.
7. Meeting Evaluation
Judge Bryan asked for feedback from Task Force members on the first meeting. Several
members shared positive feedback.
Adjourn
With no further items to discuss, the Task Force adjourned at 6:58 pm.
This Meeting Summary was approved at the April 13, 2023 Schools Safety Task Force
meeting.