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MINUTES
ORANGE COUNTY
BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
BUSINESS MEETING
June 21, 2022
7:00 p.m.
The Orange County Board of Commissioners met for a Business Meeting on Tuesday, June
21, 2022 at 7:00 p.m. at the Whitted Human Services Center in Hillsborough, NC.
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Chair Renee Price, Vice Chair Jamezetta Bedford,
and Commissioners Amy Fowler, Sally Greene, Jean Hamilton, Earl McKee, and Anna
Richards
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ABSENT:
COUNTY ATTORNEYS PRESENT: John Roberts
COUNTY STAFF PRESENT: County Manager Bonnie Hammersley, Deputy County Manager
Travis Myren, and Deputy Clerk to the Board Tara May. (All other staff members will be
identified appropriately below)
Chair Price called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
1. Additions or Changes to the Agenda
Chair Price requested to move Item 8-s up on the agenda as Item 6-d.
Commissioner Fowler requested to add a discussion on the Designation of the Alcoholic
Beverage Control Board Chair as item 11-a.
A motion was made by Commissioner McKee, seconded by Commissioner Greene, to
change Item 8-s to 6-d on the agenda, and to add a discussion on the Designation of the
Alcoholic Beverage Control Board Chair as item 11-a.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
Chair Price dispensed with reading the public charge.
2. Public Comments (Limited to One Hour)
a. Matters not on the Printed Agenda
Don O'Leary said he wants to give a prelude to item 8-s. He said the issue is about
what is being taught in schools and the Board finding ways to stifle parents' voices. He said he
has seen what is being taught in schools and it is not pretty. He said there are inappropriate
comics in schools. He said this whole thing is about trying to slip under the First Amendment,
abolish it for school areas, sexualize children, and give pedophiles a pass. He said this issue is
about sexualizing children and that is why the Board wants to stifle the parents. He said the
Board has a habit of running meetings long so people can't make public comment and said it
wouldn't be a good idea in this case.
Makeda Ma'at spoke on behalf of the Landings at Winmore's tenant association. She
said she is following up on her September 14, 2021 petition requesting Orange County
investigate the management and treatment of residents at the Landings at Winmore. She said
outside of the initial confirmation that her petition had been received, she has not heard of any
further action taken by Orange County. She said that during this time, residents endured
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continued disrespect and breeches of confidentiality by the Community Home Trust and
Landings management. She said the Landings management treats her like a roach on the wall
and is trying to silence her. She said over the past years, the Landings management and
Community Home Trust have continued to foster an environment of distress, discrimination,
inequities, mismanagement, mistreatment, disenfranchisement, and exclusion. She said the
CHT-Landings LLC operation agreement is not being adhered to. She said since 2018 a stolen
bike rack has not been replaced, and CHT refuses to adhere to the policy that Orange County
set to allow residents to conduct a short recertification for six years. She said there is
preferential treatment for one resident out of 58 units who has an assigned parking spot, and
she said it is a fair housing issue. She said dismantlement of awnings, improper management
tactics, and removal of residents' space to accommodate the site manager are injustices. She
said new barriers to use the community garden space directly impacted her ability to run her
food justice non-profit Grow to Life, which teaches gardening and nutrition to members. She
said when she and others moved to the Landings, the Winmore residents didn't want them
there and didn't want them using the pool. She said the same race and class issue is
happening now with the community garden. She asked the Board to look at the policies and
practices of Community Home Trust, particularly for racial equity, the recertification process,
and dignity for residents, since the County is a significant funder of that organization.
b. Matters on the Printed Agenda
(These matters will be considered when the Board addresses that item on the agenda below.)
3. Announcements, Petitions and Comments by Board Members
Commissioner Richards said she was pleased to be able to participate in Juneteenth
activities in Hillsborough and Chapel Hill, as well as the historic courthouse proceeding last
Friday. She said she appreciates the significance of these activities and thanked the towns and
court partners for taking action to recognize this occasion and rectify a wrong that was done to
Freedom Riders in our community 75 years ago. She said she was honored to be at the
renaming of the Chapel Hill Transit offices yesterday for former Mayor and Mrs. Lee. She said it
is a well-deserved honor and recognizes the transit system in Orange County as one of the best
in the nation.
Commissioner Fowler said she attended the TARPO meeting on June 9, 2022. She
informed the Board that Matt Day, previous director of TARPO, is now the director of
transportation at TJCOG. She said one interesting announcement from the NCDOT newsletter
is that as of May 2023, all US travelers will need a Real ID or passport to board any domestic or
international flights. She said there was an ABC Board meeting this morning and Patrick Burns
was nominated as Chair and this will come to Board for approval later in the meeting. She said
the ABC Board has aligned its travel policy to be consistent with the state policy, so the Board
will no longer have to approve the policy going forward. She said there were a record number of
sales this year for the ABC Board, and it approved increased funding to agencies that provide
alcohol rehab and education.
Commissioner Greene seconded Commissioner Richards's appreciation for the events
starting on Friday afternoon at the courthouse and ending on Monday with the renaming of the
Chapel Hill Transit Center for Howard and Lillian Lee. She said it was well-deserved and a
lovely ceremony.
Commissioner Bedford said she attended the DSS Board meeting today, and there is
hope that emergency benefits may be extended through October rather than expiring July 15tn
Commissioner Hamilton said she also attended the ceremony for the renaming of the
Chapel Hill Transit Center for Howard and Lillian Lee. She said she learned the importance of
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persistence from the speakers, as then Mayor Lee had a hard time garnering support for the
public transit system at first. She said she is the chair of the Capital Needs Work Group, which
works to understand the capital needs of schools. She said they will continue to meet over the
summer, and hope that by the fall there will be a written report to reflect the work that has been
done to date. She said they have an overview of the needs and challenges of finances and also
got a chance to hear about modern designs of schools. She said they will be looking at design
standards at the July 201h meeting. She is hopeful the community can come together to improve
physical plans of public schools.
Commissioner McKee thanked those in attendance for their participation, attention, and
interest.
Chair Price said the Juneteenth events were great and the event at the courthouse on
June 17th was inspiring and surreal, as well as the renaming of the transit center for Howard
and Lillian Lee. She said the South Orange Rescue Squad will be celebrating their 50th
anniversary this weekend and all commissioners are invited.
4. Proclamations/ Resolutions/ Special Presentations
None.
5. Public Hearings
None.
6. Regular Agenda
a. Approval of Fiscal Year 2022-23 Budget Ordinances and County Fee Schedule
The Board considered approving the Fiscal Year 2022-23 Budget Ordinances and County
Fee Schedule.
BACKGROUND: At the June 9, 2022 budget work session, the Board of County
Commissioners made decisions regarding the County's FY2022-23 budget. See the
following attachments related to those decisions:
• Attachment 1 — the Resolution of Intent to Adopt the FY 2022-23 Orange County
Budget outlines the actions approved by the Board of County Commissioners on
June 9, 2022
• Attachment 2 — the FY 2022-23 Budget Ordinance is the legislation implementing the
FY2022- 23 Annual Operating Budget for Orange County, including Grants Project
Ordinances
• Attachment 3 — the FY 2022-23 County Fee Schedule
Travis Myren made the following PowerPoint presentation:
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Slide #1
gems 6-a and 6-b
ORANGE COUNTY
NORTH CAROLINA
Approval of FY2022-23 Operating
and Capital Budgets
June 21, 2022
Slide #2
Operating Budget
• Property Tax Rates
Cwnlywide Ad Valorem 83.12 eenls per$100 value
ChapelHlll-CarrboroCRYSchoolsDlstriclTax 18.30 can ls per$100value
Fire Dlstncls Varles by DlstricL see lable
• Employee Pay and Benefits
3%wage adjustment
Merit pay program addustmenls
Salary sohedules-Including slop program for pubilc safely classlAcalions
Llving wage adjmlment to$15.85
Short term disability program
A iditlonal voluntary ber,01m
�t
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NORT3 I CAROLINA
Slide #3
Operating Budget
• Amendments to the Recommended Budget
- Restore Sunday hours at the Library
OThel by Amerlcan Rescue plan Act submimlon In Sao lal Servlces
• Appraval of New Positions
- 35.9 additional full time equivalents
• 2T of de ncn poNtlons in SheiRs CSTce antl Erna'pency rAeticalSerxces
• School District Funding
$93.5 m,olor,current expense divided by average dally membersh,p
$21.8 milion school debt service
$3.7 milion School Resource Officers and School Nurses
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NOFM I CAROLINA
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Slide #4
Operating Budget
• Year 1 of the Capital Investment Plan
— $10,8miftn FarCaunly Projects
W.5 mielon for school Projecls
$72.2,363 for Solld Waste
— $520,000 for 5portsplex
• County Fee Schedule
— No change from Reconniended &u4et
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Slide #5
Operating Budget
• Other Provisions in Budget Ordinance
— Privilege Licenses
Animal Licenses
— 5wrd oFCommissioners'Campensalivn—3%wage adjuslment
— Bud3el Conlrol Policies
Funds Outside ofthe General Fund
— Contract Approval and Purchasing Policies
Project Grant Ordlnanoe for Amerlcan Rescue Plan Acl Funds
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NOW ICAROLINA
Travis Myren said "funds outside the general fund" includes things like the post-
employment benefit fund, health and dental fund.
Slide #6
Manager's Recommendation
Adopt the FY2022.23 Budget Ordinances and FY2022.23 County
Fee Schedule,consistent with the parameters outlined in the
Board's Resolutron of Inters[to Adopt the FY2022-23 Orarige County
Budget
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NOWrl I CAROLINA
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A motion was made by Commissioner McKee, seconded by Commissioner Greene, to
adopt the FY 2022-23 Budget Ordinances and the FY 2022-23 County Fee Schedule,
consistent with the parameters outlined in the Board's "Resolution of Intent to Adopt the FY
2022-23 Orange County Budget."
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
b. Accept the Ten-Year Capital Investment Plan (CIP) and Approve the Orange County
Overall CIP Projects of$40,610,532 for FY 2022-23
The Board accepted the FY 2022-32 Orange County Five-Year Capital Investment Plan (CIP),
and considered approving the Orange County Overall CIP Projects of$40,610,532 for FY 2022-
23.
BACKGROUND: For over 20 years, the County has produced a Capital Investment Plan (CIP)
that establishes a budget planning guide related to capital needs for the County as well as
Schools. The current CIP consists of a 10-year plan that is evaluated annually to include year-
to- year changes in priorities, needs, and available resources. Approval of the CIP commits the
County to the first year funding only of the capital projects; all other years are used as a
planning tool and serves as a financial plan.
Capital Investment Plan — Overview
The FY 2022-32 CIP includes County Projects, School Projects, and Proprietary Projects. The
School Projects include Chapel Hill-Carrboro City Schools, Orange County Schools, and
Durham Technical Community College — Orange County Campus projects. The Proprietary
Projects include Water and Sewer, Solid Waste Enterprise Fund, and Sportsplex projects.
The CIP has been prepared anticipating moderate economic growth of approximately 2% in
property tax growth over the next five years, and 4% sales tax growth. Many of the projects in
the CIP will rely on debt financing to fund the projects.
Attachment 1 is the FY 2022-32 Capital Investment Plan Overall Summary of $40,610,532
(individual projects were provided to the Board of County Commissioners at previous work
sessions, and revised project funding was discussed at the June 9, 2022 budget work session).
Attachment 2 lists County Capital Projects Summary totaling $10,854,009 in FY 2022-23 (Year
1).
Attachment 3 lists Proprietary Capital Projects Summary totaling $1,242,363 in FY 2022-23
(Year 1).
Attachment 4 lists School Capital Projects Summary totaling $28,514,160 in FY 2022-23 (Year
1).
Travis Myren continued with the following PowerPoint presentation:
Slide #7
Capital Investment Plan
• Approve Year t o!the Capital Investment Plan as amended
— Sd0,610,532t+7tal Year�Nndirg
310.9milim For Garry Projecrz
• 3124,2.M3 rar Solo Wdae and sperl5plea
S29.5milim for SdparProjacis
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• Ramse Orr,w.0 ge Grant iarguape far dwoauon of dva=I.F1nds
Add 5115QD11 to[amen n1m vFhdtl HMJ M[
+ Reduce S380,000 far a W—a0vJud far purGuse;Ywm ley
,Mme 5i5ppO ru Fire Mnl911n1 Vehde Pnrde9ed rn FY2021.22
• Add$200,000 for Ernerpancy Medical Services R—"drd RwI—Twt Fund
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Slide #8
Capital Investment Plan
• Acceptanceof the Ten Year Capital Investment Plan
Inlportarll for debt mr,delirg
Proj:dtlming su6recl to change
Protects su*cl to change
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NORTI I CAROLINA
Slide #9
Manager's Recommendation
• Acceptthe FY 2022-32 Orange County Ten-Year Capital Investment
Plan
• Approve County projects and associated funding for FY2022-23 as
stated in Attachment
• Approve the FY 2022-23 Proprietary Capital projects as stated in
Attachment 3
• Approve the FY 2022-23 School Capital projects as stated in
Attachrrent4
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NOFM I CAROI.INA
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A motion was made by Commissioner Fowler, seconded by Commissioner Hamilton, to
approve funding for FY 2022-23 and adopt the FY 2022-23 County Capital projects as stated in
Attachment 2; the FY 2022-23 Proprietary Capital projects as stated in Attachment 3; and the
FY 2022-23 School Capital projects as stated in Attachment 4.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
c. Amendments to the Network Development Agreement for Broadband Deployment with
North State Communications Advanced Services
The Board considered approving amendments to the Network Development Agreement with
North State Communications Advanced Services, LLC to deploy broadband service in unserved
locations in Orange County.
BACKGROUND: On April 26, 2022, the Board of Commissioners authorized the County
Manager to execute a Network Development Agreement with North State Communications to
deploy a fiber optic broadband network to unserved locations in Orange County. Unserved
locations are defined by State law as locations that do not have access to internet service that
provides speeds of 25 megabits per second (mbps) download and 3 mbps upload. The
statutory authority under which the County is authorized to make grants for broadband
deployment only allows those grant funds to be used to serve unserved locations.
During the meeting at which the agreement was originally considered, an attorney representing
Spectrum Communications asserted that many of the addresses in the proposed service area
were served by Spectrum and, therefore, were not unserved. If that were the case, County
grant funds could not be used to fund connections to those addresses. County staff delayed
the final execution of the agreement with North State pending resolution of this dispute with
Spectrum Communications.
Due to the nature of the telecommunications industry, identifying specific unserved addresses is
difficult. There is no official map that identifies specific locations or addresses that are defined
as served or unserved. The Federal Communication Commission (FCC) maps, for example,
are imprecise since they only provide information by census block, not specific addresses within
that census block. North State compiled a list of addresses that the company believed were
unserved based on their engineering and mapping. The only way to verify addresses that are
served by Spectrum Communications is to individually search for them on the Spectrum
website.
Spectrum Communications initially claimed that the company provided service to over 4,700
addresses that were intended to be funded with County grant funds. Through a verification
process that included staff from the County, North State Communications, and Spectrum
Communications, the list of served addresses was refined to 3,528. While the number of
addresses that are funded with County grant funds has decreased, the total number of
addresses served, linear miles of fiber installed, and the cost to install the fiber is not impacted.
The disputed addresses are in locations that are either along the fiber route that will be needed
to reach the unserved addresses or are in more densely populated areas which North State has
a strong economic interest to serve.
The proposed contract amendments refine the list of addresses funded with County grant
dollars and address concerns raised since the original contract was considered.
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1. Refining addresses funded with the County grant
The proposed contract amendment revises the number of addresses funded with
County grant dollars from 9,898 to no less than 6,370 with corresponding changes to the
address list in Attachment B. The amendment also generally prohibits County grant
funds from being to be used to provide service to already served locations.
2. Expansion of the service area
The original service area defined in the contract only included those areas where the
County had identified unserved households. The North State construction plan extends
beyond that area. The contract amendment proposes to expand the service area to
include the entirety of North State's planned construction. This means that North State
will be obligated to serve any unserved address in the expanded service area and that
those addresses will be automatically added to the list of addresses in Attachment B.
The only limitation to this obligation outside of the original grant area is if the cost of the
fiber extension would be double the average cost of passing homes in the service area.
The average cost to pass each address is $3,700, so twice the average cost would be
$7,400. This cost is equivalent to an installation of greater than a mile to serve less than
eight homes.
3. Price and network performance protections expanded to the entire service area.
The original contract included a mandatory low cost service option, limitations on price
increases, and performance guarantees for network reliability and performance for
addresses funded through the agreement. The contract amendment extends these
protections to any address in the service area.
4. Low cost service offering modified to remove cost barriers
The original contract required a low cost service to be available to subscribers in Orange
County to help remove barriers to access. That original offering was 200 mbps
symmetrical service for $40 per month. The contract amendment proposes to change
the low cost option to 100 mbps symmetrical service for $30 per month which is
equivalent to the discount offered through the FCC's Affordable Connectivity Plan.
Aligning these amounts will remove all cost barriers associated with paying for monthly
service.
5. Payment schedule revised to reflect new address list
The original agreement required the County to pay up to $10 million in American
Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) funds as a grant to North State in three installments. The
number of connections that would have to be enabled to receive the final installment has
been revised to comport with the new list of addresses, changing from 6,898 to 3,396.
6. Construction schedule revised to reflect new address list
Based on the location of the households contained in the new list of addresses, the
contract amendment delays the completion of phase 1 of the project from April of 2023
to June of 2023. The sequencing of the remaining phases is consistent with the initial
plan. The number of homes served during each phase has also been changed to reflect
the change in the number of locations funded with County grant funds.
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Phase Homes Added Date
1 1,000 June 2023
2 1,000 September 2023
3 1,000 December 2023
4 1,000 March 2024
5 1,000 June 2024
6 1,370 September 2024
TOTAL 6,370
7. Adjacent addresses not included in the expanded service area
Some addresses in Orange County that are adjacent to the service area were not
included due to engineering constraints. Although not part of the revised contract
language, the County and North State have agreed to revisit those addresses once final
engineering is completed in December 2022. At that time, North State will have finalized
the specific fiber routes and will be able to confidently advise the County on what would
be necessary to extend service to unserved households in these limited areas.
Travis Myren made the following PowerPoint presentation:
Slide #1
ORANGE COUNTY
NORTH CAROLINA
Agreementwith North State Communications
for Broadband Deployment
Board of Orange County Commissioners
June 21,2022
Slide #2
Changes to the Agreement
• Ref nes Add resses to be served with County Grant Funds
— Oehnhion of"Unnerved•—no access to 25 x 3 mbps service
— County may only apply gram funds to'unserved'addrcases
— Verification process decreases Courdy funded addressor W 6,370 horn 9.690
— General prohibition on usirg County gram funds to extend service to"served"
addresses
Corresponding Changes to Other Provisions
— Allachment 6—List of Addresses revised to remove"served"address
— Addresses served to reeelve Mal payment—revised to 3,306
— Consuuctlon schedule delayed two manlhs due to bcauon of unserved
addresses
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Commissioner Fowler asked about the verification process decreasing the funding from
9,898 to 6,370 addresses and the final payment.
Travis Myren said by the time they have reached final payment there will have been two
other payments that are scheduled installments, and this would be the balance remaining.
Commissioner Fowler asked if they do not have to serve all 6,370 to receive the final
payment.
Travis Myren said by the end of the payment schedule, all 6,370 will be served but there
is an installment prior to the final that reflects the balance of addresses. He said when you add
all the houses served it will add up to 6,370.
Commissioner Hamilton asked if new addresses that are unserved came on. She asked
about the schedule delay related to this.
Travis Myren said the first scheduled payment was to serve 3,000 addresses but the
location was not defined. He said that what was left were the addresses that were in the
furthest parts of the county. He said that takes more fiber and more work to reach those first
3,000.
Commissioner McKee asked if this moved back the final completion date.
Travis Myren said everything gets bumped back by two months, so the final date is now
May-June 2023.
Commissioner McKee said he wants to clarify that the reduction from 9,898 to 6,370,
does not mean that there are 3,000 homes that are unserved, they just aren't on this list
because Spectrum challenged their viability.
Travis Myren said yes, county grants can't provide services to served addresses.
Commissioner McKee said Spectrum is saying 25/3, but some are getting 10/1. He said
that Spectrum may be on legal grounds for the county not being able to use grant funds, but
NorthState can fund it on their own.
Slide #3
North State Service Area Revised
ed
Travis Myren said any unserved address within the service area, NorthState has an
obligation to serve.
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Slide #4
Locations Served
• Serve any additional unserued households within the polygon
consistent with the terms of the contract
Limitatiq s on price increases
Low cost service option
— Network per nnarme levels
Network reliability levers
New aderesses sLi*cr to double average cost to serve tlmrlaLion
Low Cost Option Modified
— FJlminakes monlhly out of pocket expense for residents participating In the
ArrordaWe Connectivity plan-550 per month
• Adjacent Addresses Not Included in Service Area
— Revisit after final engineeirng(December 2022)
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Commissioner McKee said that even though this drops to 200 megabytes per second to
100 megabytes per second, this is still considerably faster than many people have today.
Commissioner Hamilton asked what they are referring to low cost.
Travis Myren said when the out-of-pocket monthly expense went down, the speed
decreased as well. He said it is adequate service.
Commissioner Hamilton asked about the criteria for the affordable connectivity plan.
Travis Myren said he will follow up with that information, but believes it is tied to federal
poverty levels.
Commissioner Greene said that the RFP specced 100 megabytes as the baseline and
that meets the federal guidance.
Travis Myren said the federal guidance is 100 MBPS.
Chair Price asked if 100 MBPS would support three children doing schoolwork and a
business at the same time.
Travis Myren said it might be more of a strain for higher number of people in a
household, but it is adequate for most households.
Slide #5
Manager's Recommendation
• Approve and authorize the County Managerto sign the amended
Network Development Agreement and any amendments that do not
exceed the contractamount with North State Communications
Advanced Services,LLC to construct,operate,and maintain a fiber
to the premise network in unserved locations in Orange County
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PUBLIC COMMENTS:
Amanda Hawkins said she is an attorney with Brooks Pearce in Raleigh. She said she is
speaking on the NC Cable Telecommunications Association and one of its members is
Spectrum and Charter. She said that a colleague spoke to them previously and noted that North
Carolina law only allows counties to award broadband grants to unserved areas. She expressed
concern that the NorthState grant service area would include a large number of locations that
are already served by Spectrum. She said that after the April 261h meeting, they have worked
with the county's legal staff to identify a subset of location from the prior list that are presently
served by Charter. She said that these conversations have resulted in the amendment that is
before them tonight. She said that there are over 3,000 addresses that need to be removed.
She said that this amendment does not solve the legal problem. She said that the law only
permits counties to issue grants to unserved areas and this project does more than that. She
said that to fix the legal issues, the amount of the grant needs to either be reduced by 36% or a
new 3,528 unserved locations need to be identified to add to the grant. She said the
amendment attempts to address this by requiring NorthState to serve any unserved locations
that it is building to, but the law does not allow a county to overbuild.
A motion was made by Commissioner Greene, seconded by Commissioner McKee, to
approve and authorize the County Manager to sign the amended Network Development
Agreement and any amendments that do not exceed the contract amount with North State
Communications Advanced Services, LLC to construct, operate, and maintain a fiber to the
premises network in unserved parts of Orange County.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
d. Regulation of Gatherings on and near School Property and Public Playgrounds
PURPOSE: To present for second reading an ordinance regulating picketing on or within 1,000
feet of school property and public playgrounds.
BACKGROUND: The Board of Commissioners requested information on how the County may
regulate protests or large gatherings in Orange County. The Board initially received information
on this subject at its February 1, 2022 Business meeting. At that meeting the Board discussed
many aspects of this type of regulation including prohibiting large gatherings on certain public
school properties. The Board further discussed this topic at its May 10, 2022 work session. At
that work session the Board determined parades would not be regulated and provided further
direction to the County Attorney to be brought back to the Board for future consideration. At the
June 2, 2022 work session, the Board determined to move forward with an ordinance
prohibiting picketing on School Property. The agenda materials for each prior discussion may
be viewed at the links above.
Pursuant to the Board's prior discussions and input, the County Attorney revised the draft
ordinance which generally provides as follows:
• Only covers Picketing conducted on, or within 1,000 feet of, School Property and Public
Playgrounds;
• Declares violations to be subject to a monetary fine, equitable relief, or trespass
depending on the facts and circumstances.
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Recent changes to North Carolina law provide that when a local ordinance involves a potential
criminal penalty, the ordinance may not be adopted at the meeting at which it is first introduced.
Such an ordinance may only be adopted at the next regular meeting following its introduction.
Because one potential penalty of this ordinance is trespass, which is a statutory misdemeanor,
this ordinance may only be adopted at its second reading. First reading for this proposed
ordinance occurred at the Board's June 7, 2022 Business meeting.
John Roberts said this is the fifth time this has been on an agenda for the Board to
discuss. He said that each time it has gotten smaller, and he recommends that it get a bit
smaller tonight. He said it would prohibit protests on school property when there are students
present for any purpose. He said that there are three types of public forum as it relates to
government property. He said the traditional public forum, limited public forum, and nonpublic
forum are the types. He said that in a traditional public forum, the government may not regulate
speech and gave the example that the courthouse steps or the lawn around the courthouse
would be places where speech could not be regulated. He said that a limited public forum is a
government property that has been specifically designated for freedom of expression but is
subject to certain kinds of limitation, either time, place, and manner, or event content, but it has
to be very narrow. He said that the Eno Arts Mill would be an example of this type of property
with artists having political works. He said that a non-public forum is something that is not
traditional or limited, or a designated area. He said that an example would be government
offices, the jail, public schools, and things like that. He said that the Supreme Court has said
that a government may place limits on spaces that are non-public forums, which is what school
properties are.
Chair Price said she should have prefaced this by saying that this was brought to the
Board by residents, so the Board is responding to those concerns.
John Roberts said that the recommendation for a change with the words "vigil" and
"observation." He said those were left over from sample ordinances from other jurisdictions but
does not fit the legal definition for the use of those words. He said that his recommendation is to
change the definition of picketer/picketing to the activity or circumstance whereby one or more
persons gather together for a common purpose for a protest or demonstration which primarily
promotes or objects to a person, policy, political candidate issue or action. He said that is the
only specific change that he recommended. He said that he notified the Board earlier that when
he was reviewing other buffer regulations that the county has developed by ordinance that the
1,000 feet that was requested by the school board does seem extremely lengthy. He said that
the next closest buffer regulation is 150 yards or 450 feet. He recommended the Board
consider another distance.
Chair Price said she received an email from Patrick Abele, and he said 1,000 feet is the
distance for registered sex offenders.
Commissioner McKee said going back to the definition, one person may be considered
a picketer.
John Roberts said it could be. He said that there was originally a minimum number and
the Board discussed that a minimum was not needed.
Commissioner McKee said that "any common purpose" is pretty broad. He said that
removing "vigil" and "observation" leaves protest, demonstrations, or other action. He said that
his other issue is with "or other action." He asked the attorney to define "other action."
John Roberts said he removed that in his recommendation because it was subjective.
Commissioner Greene said that she does not see the new recommendation in the
attorney portal or the other email.
John Roberts said that the recommendation is what he just read and that he sent an
email that contained the language.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS:
Dale Hodson asked if the Board would be voting on an item that the public has not seen.
Chair Price said that it is in the public domain and that the amendment being discussed
by the attorney is a common practice. She said that the Board has the option to vote on the
item tonight.
Dale Hodson said that he does not have it in front of him.
Chair Price said that it would be in his packet if he accessed it online.
Dale Hodson said this is a bait and switch.
Chair Price said it was not.
Dale Hodson said that the ordinance is mean spirited and unconstitutional. He said that
it is mean spirited because it has been created to keep Orange County parents from free
speech activities regarding their schools. He said that it is unconstitutional because it prevents
speech, assembly, and redress, all guaranteed in the First Amendment. He said that it is also
unconstitutional because of the equal protection provided by the Fourteenth Amendment. He
said that students are not bound by the ordinance but everyone else is. He said that allows
students to picket, but he can't. He said this is a clear Fourteenth Amendment violation. He said
that if 1,000 students line the sidewalks leading to a school with their BLM signs that he can't
also join them with his BLM sign. He said that is a clear Fourteenth Amendment violation. He
said this ordinance is criminalizing these protected activities on private property as well. He said
that the Sheriff will be sent to cite them in their own backyards and that this ordinance is
madness. He said that the Board has said that the whole reason is to protect the emotional
health of kids, but where was that when they locked down, remote learned, and masked their
kids. He said that is what has damaged the kids' emotional health. He said that the Board says
that they want free speech but only in a way that does not hurt children. He asked what that
even means. He said that it means they do not want free speech. He said they want zero free
speech within 1,000 feet of a school other than for students. He said that they only want speech
that is regulated and controlled by the state. He said that this is exactly what the authors of the
First Amendment were aiming to prevent — an authoritarian government limiting speech. He
said that they say that their children must be protected, but that is a parent's job not the
government's. He said that if a child saw something that was offensive near a school today then
it is the parent's job to counsel, console, and discuss with the child. He said that they say they
can protest farther from schools, so their restrictions are okay. He said that the restrictions are
so drastic in the times and locations that it is as much a violation of the First Amendment as
restricting the content of their speech. He said that they say that all rights have limits. He said
that the courts have ruled that any restrictions must be limited and that this is not. He said this
ordinance should be removed from the agenda and that the Board should never bring it back.
He said they should stop meddling in their free speech.
Larry Tippens, retired Army and Department of the Army Civil Service. He said that he is
81 years old and if they do not want to get a lot of illness, pain, and misery then they should not
get old. He also said they should listen to a cardiologist that is somewhat controversial from
Florida State University. He said that you can hear his lectures to his lectures to med students
on fasting for survival. He said that he goes with Isaiah 65 and that is if you die at 100, you die
a young man. He said that people studying genetics say that we should have 125 years. He
said that having sworn to protect the constitution, things like this concern him because he has
talked to people who have escaped fascist governments. He said the things they see that chip
away at our freedoms terrorize those political refugees. He said they tremble when they speak,
and they are so afraid that we are only a year or two away from the same situation as
Venezuela. He said that you hear a lot of promises from people that are far left because they
don't intend on keeping those. He said if there is going to be a loss of free speech and
assembly then he invites how would they celebrate people like Martin Luther King, Jr. who is
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one of his heroes. He said on picketing, where is the police report, and who has been hurt. He
said that if someone was carrying a sign and beating kids up then surely there is a police
report. He said that losses of the freedoms will lead to closing of church doors and burning
bibles. He said that is not far off and only a few years.
Dan O'Leary read a quote from JFK that said those who make peaceful resolution
impossible will make violent resolution inevitable. He said that they are not putting up with
curtailing the First Amendment and going after children. He said this will not happen. He said
this is not a joke and that the Board is trying to stifle the parents. He then read a quote from the
King James Bible, Matthew 18:6, that said but whoever causes one of these little ones who
believe in me to sin, it would be better for him if a noose was hung around his neck, and he
would drown in the depths of the sea. He said that he thinks that sexualizing kids is pretty
screwed up. He asked the Board if they thought the Lord would like that from them. He said that
the Board should wakeup and that he feels like he is in the twilight zone with the Board.
David Kolbinsky said he has been out of civic involvement for a while. He said from
1994-2003 he was on the Board of Education. He said that what caught his attention was that in
2019, the BOE was having issues and passed a resolution that the school system was
historically and systemically racist. He said that came as a shock because he was there for nine
years and served with Keith Cook, Delores Simpson, Brenda Stephens, and nothing like that
was talked about. He said that they had an achievement gap that was addressed every budget
cycle and there was never hesitation on anyone's part. He said that nothing like this rhetoric
was ever used. He said that sometimes that the board would be divided 3-4, but they all had an
agreement and didn't advocate for their constituency. He said they were there for all residents
of Orange County and all students. He said that he understands that there is quite a bit of
acrimony in the school system and that the former superintendent left abruptly after four years.
He said that he tried to call the former superintendent and ask why but that all he would say is
that he was burnt out and he wanted to go do something else. He said that he called a board
member that was on the board at that time, and it was worse because all they said was that
they would not talk about politics. He said that he ran for the board because a superintendent
was there that wanted to do something called outcome-based education. He said that they did
not know what that was but that they were worried about what outcomes they were wanting. He
said that they were bringing something into the school system other than reading, writing, and
arithmetic. He said that the superintendent worked for them for ten years and when he left,
Randy Bridges was doing such a good job, that he was hired for superintendent. He said that
his problem with this ordinance is that they are weaponizing the BOCC and police against
parents to silence their concern about what is going on in the school system. He showed a sign
that he was carrying.
Jacquie Barker said she understands there is concern about harm occurring to children
on school property. She said that the alleged incident that happened to spark this ordinance did
not happen on school property. She said that the restrictions will now include private property
that is within 1,000 feet of a school. She said that the commissioners can now judge when a
private gathering can be considered a public event and shut it down while fining each person
$100. She asked what the definition for "school" is in the proposed ordinance. She asked if this
includes charter schools. She said if this is about protecting where children are present then
why aren't preschools and daycares included. She said that playgrounds will be included but
what about museums, art galleries, and parks where plenty of children are present. She asked
what they are trying to protect children from. She said all past protests were peaceful and
asked what this is trying to address. She said there is no evidence of imminent danger to
children. She said law enforcement is already in place for when the law is broken. She asked
why they would limit freedoms when there is already a system in place to deal with someone
violating the law. She asked where the statements from harmed students came from. She
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asked if the protests actually came from someone that was at the protests that took place
outside of a football game. She asked if they came from the students that were in the targeted
African American studies class at Orange High School. She asked if they came from school
board members or a superintendent that wanted to talk about white nationalist hate groups and
showed a news video of the protest near the football game. She said that those students were
not even at the protest to give an accurate statement. She asked if they were aware that this
protest was organized by students to originally take place in the student parking lot but that it
was shutdown by intimidation and threats by the principal. She said that is how it ended up
taking place off of school property. She said that the Board is being played by a group of
activists that are intolerant to different voices and that they are falling right into the trap. She
said that the goal is to take away small bits of their freedoms here and there and that it isn't
noticed when it falls under the guise of safety. She said that it is then further validated by
virtuous praises and agreements with one another. She said they are being subverted and now
they all believe in more control and more restrictions on the people. She said that the next thing
they know is there will be zero rights and that includes the commissioners. She said that when
you trade security for liberty, you lose both. She said they could stop this now by voting against
the ordinance.
Dylan Sylvan said he got an email about this proposed ordinance, and he said he
appreciates what the Board does. He said he went through the Orange County school system
and had a few hiccups, but it was a great experience growing up here. He said he's concerned
about what the next generation is being taught. He said there wasn't a lot of controversy about
what was being taught and it seems that has come back. He said that this seems to be the
heart of the issue, but he is not an expert on it. He said that he is worried on the effect of an
ordinance that is very broad where it puts law enforcement in a position where they aren't
enforcing the law, they are enforcing the dictates of the facility that is in a position of authority.
He said this gets into a situation where they are the police, and this is similar to trespassing
laws. He said this gives police a framework who has a right to be there even if one might not
agree with what someone has to say. He said this is what is tearing out country apart. He said
we need to get to a place where the law isn't being used against each other.
Laurie Teper said she is concerned with 8-s. She said she is outraged that they are
considering passing it. She said it has nothing to do with safety of children and is targeted at
parents. She said this will keep them from protesting anything they don't agree with on the
school board. She said that most of these parents are working and put trust in the school
system. She said they don't have time to attend school board meetings. She asked if there is
evidence of crimes being committed at past protests and the evidence of victims from the
protests outside of the football games. She said there is not any because no one was breaking
the law. She asked if Chairman Doyle was even there. She asked where the students are who
claimed they feared for their lives. She asked if there are any written comments supporting
those claims. She said now because the Orange County School Board deems parents as
threatening, they want to eliminate the ability of any concerned parent to speak out against any
policy. She said that a three-minute comment doesn't get a lot of attention. She said that one
person mentioned the First Amendment during the Board's discussion of the item. She said
they are crossing dangerous lines of thinking if they pass this ordinance. She said the public's
right to petition the government for a redress of grievances is at stake. She said she is thankful
the language on vigil and observation is proposed to be changed. She quoted John Adams and
said that liberty, once lost, is lost forever.
Sarah Snipes said she is a parent of students at OCS. She said her children were part
of the protest that alleged harm to other students. She said that the individuals that claimed
harm was done to them are not here tonight because the harm did not happen. She said that
the hate comments that were derived for the hate resolution that the school board developed
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was because three school board members went into an African American studies class and
solicited those comments from students by using video footage from a news channel. She said
that the way she knows this is because a close friend of her son's was in the class when it
happened. She said she wanted to speak clarity into where this is coming from. She said this is
a complete political agenda against parents that wanted to have a respectful protest, a student-
led protest, to protest spectator rights to go into football games. She said that the reason that
the school board wanted to shut that down is because there was a group of students wanted to
go and the students had a certain political affiliation they didn't agree with, so the other side of
the political affiliation showed up, and they are the ones embedded with the school board, to try
to push this hate resolution. She said there were no crimes committed and this was done
peacefully. She said the protest was in October and this is an attempt from the school board to
silence the parents. She said that parents have tried to bring several atrocities to their attention.
She said they have brought concerns of pornography in books and school grades. She asked if
the commissioners knew that Orange County is the third highest ranked school system in the
state of North Carolina on per pupil spending. She said they spend $20,000 more per student
and their graduation rates are 3% lower, but they're worried about protests on the side of the
road instead of the education of children. She said they are watching and will pay close
attention. She said that citizens are holding them accountable and that she does not agree with
the attorney's assessment on the infringement of their free speech. She said to tread lightly on
the vote and to honor their country.
Gretchen Schmid said 1,000 feet is not on school property and not part of non-public
forum. She said that the impetus to regulate freedoms of speech seems to have been inspired
by claims of illegal activity and endangerment of students near school property. She said these
claims are being made from a school board where none of its members were present, except
for one and that she was ironically chased by them as they were yelling fascist at her while she
was passing out a small card that had information about a parent research project. She said
there are 700 people and counting, who have thanked OCS Truth for parents gathering and
disseminating that information. She said that society has a system for dealing with law breakers
and there have been none in the stories that have been shared. She said it is important to ask
why parents and community members were coming out to exercise their First Amendment
rights in the first place. She said that it is because they do not feel safe sending children to
school where there are assignments describing illicit, abusive, and erotic sexual behaviors and
acts. She said that parents do not feel safe that their child's private medical information is not
shared school wide, and then they are being bullied, intimidated, and ostracized by staff and
peers when personal information has been shared. She said that parents to not feel safe when
their children are attempting to learn in a polarized environment, dressed in emblems and
symbols of actual events that have led to billions of dollars of damage and the destruction of
private and public property as well as documented attacks on individuals, some of which ended
in death. She said that parents do not feel safe sending their kids to a place where they are
attempting to learn in an environment where content depicting rape, incest in children, providing
sexual acts for adults are displayed in a prominent spot on a library shelf. She said that parents
do not feel safe when their children are being shoved in the hall and into lockers after they have
expressed religious beliefs. She said that parents came out in force as soon as the school
board meetings were happening live again. She said that the OCS school board has
established a reputation of distancing itself from the people and suppressing their attempts at
expressing their beliefs. She said that it is imperative this body hold to the supreme law of the
land. She said that it was said at the last meeting that they are not trying to control but rather to
restrict. She said that the definition of restrict is to prohibit and that whether it is restrict or
control, both are restricting of freedoms of speech.
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Courtney Geels said she is the Republican Nominee for US Congress District 4. She
said she grew up in Hillsborough and went through the school system of Orange County. She
said she is appalled at the direction this Board is going. She said this ordinance is targeting
parents. She said that if she is elected, if she disagrees with a constituent, she will still listen to
them. She said they are working against a group of their own constituents if this regulation is
passed. She said they are all aware of the events that led up to the May elections. She said
there is a coordinated effort between the school board, Orange County government, and now
the County Commission and that it is very manipulative and unconstitutional. She said this is
blatantly against the First Amendment and that it is the Sheriff's duty to uphold the peoples'
constitutional rights. She said that if this is passed it is a message that they do not care about
the Constitution. She said if the Sheriff then chooses to enforce the regulation, then he is
saying to the citizens that he is denying the oath of his office to defend the constitution of North
Carolina and the US Constitution. She said that if Sheriff Blackwood enforces this it will be a lie
to the people and to God. She said there will be legal ramifications against each of them if they
pass this.
David Ogden said to please excuse him if he is a little emotional. He said that his 12-
year-old daughter lost her two last baby teeth this week and while it is the cutest smile ever, it is
a reminder that it is the end of a phase for her. He said that he should be with her tonight,
listening to her read and laugh, and talk about her day but instead, he has to be at the meeting
to defend her future against would-be tyrants. He said that the fact that this regulation is even
coming up for a vote reveals that most of the commissioners have a complete disregard for the
Bill of Rights. He said that this ordinance would strip residents of right to peaceably assemble.
He said that it depends on fear and submission to suppress. He said that like the school board,
this Board has a palpable fear of citizens in the community exposing bad actions by elected
officials. He said that the efforts that they are afraid of are tantamount to rebel. He said imagine
what those that seek to shed light could do with more time and more motivation. He asked if
they think this ordinance will weaken those that stand for liberty. He said that their actions only
serve to expose those who vote for these as Machiavellian usurpers of Constitutional rights. He
said that the days of no accountability are over. He said that he will be watching and will be
disseminating the results of each of their votes to the community.
Kathy Arab said this ordinance is unconstitutional. She said it violates the rights of any
person that shares a difference world view than that of Orange County's social justice goals.
She said that it diminishes individuality. She said that the people elected the commissioners, so
the people should carry as much as or more weight than any non-governmental office or from
those that provide grant monies with strings attached. She said that America's founders were
thinking of them when they wrote the constitution. She said that measuring the social justice
impact of the ordinance is interesting to her because the dictionary definition of social justice is
state redistribution — which is politics and power — about groups and not individual. She said
that critical social justice is inherently incompatible with the world view prevalence in the
Constitution. She said that the difference is that social justice defines equity as the same
outcomes and the Constitution defines justice as equality, the same opportunities. She said that
social justice missions to redress grievances is defined by critical theories. She said that means
that any time the numbers aren't equal, you know there isn't equity, but this doesn't align with
the natural world. She said that critical social justice is narrow and authoritarian. She said that
the people are not intent on gaining political power to force people to do justice. She said that
their greatest desire is the freedom to express their convictions. She said that critical social
justice does not tolerate a variety of ideas because critical social justice is a source and means
of oppression. She quoted Milton Freeman — "A society that puts equality, in the sense of
equality of outcomes, ahead of freedom, will end up with neither equality nor freedom...use of
force to achieve equality will destroy freedom and the force introduced for good purposes will
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end up in the hands of people who use it to promote their own interests...One of the great
mistakes is to judge policies and programs by their intentions, rather than their results."
Karen Raines said 1,000 feet is restrictive of freedom of speech and assembly. She said
both are outlined and protected in the Constitution. She said that in another discussion in this
topic, someone mentioned other counties joining the voices from Orange County and that those
outside voices should not be heard. She said that those voices that are here are here to oppose
an injustice that if permitted, would then spread to other counties. She said that freedom of
speech must not be limited geographically. She paraphrased a quote circa post World War II
stating "First they came for the [fill in the blank with a group of people,] but I did not speak out
for them because I was not of them. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak up for
them because I am not a Jew. Then, they came for me and there was no one left to speak for
me."
Charles Lopez said he is the Republican candidate for State House District 50 and the
state chairman for the Hispanic GOP outreach. He said that he went to school for public
administration and his professor said that as a public administrator, they try to do the most
good. He said this is doing the most harm. He said that as a public administrator, when he sees
the public coming out with this much passion, he has some doubt that this is not the best time
to adopt this ordinance. He said that maybe it is not the right wording to accomplish their noble
intent of protecting children. He said there is power in the constituents sitting here today. He
asked them to reject the ordinance if they have any doubt.
Robert Thomas said this is part of the great American experiment. He said that the
forefathers established a system years ago that allows people to come forward to a place and
discuss their disagreements about ideas. He said this is the genius of the American system at
work. He said the Board has rights as well as parents and students. He said that greater rights
have to be with parents because they are ultimately responsible for raising good citizens. He
said that he would bet that every parent there tonight believes they have a solemn duty to raise
good citizens and that is why they are here. He said that protests are not just opportunities to
raise objections but are also an opportunity to reach out to likeminded people. He said that the
protests are not endangering children. He said that he takes the point of Mr. Roberts that it is
not a traditional public forum but when you have a situation where parents are feeling that the
very core curriculum of the school is antithetical to their children, then he contends that they
have a right to come and assemble peaceably because the First Amendment gives them the
right to. He said that he does not support the court rulings that seem to be unconstitutional. He
said that they need to support parents because they are the backbone of society, and they
should have the opportunity to object in the place of their choice.
Rusty Toley said he has never been to a meeting before. He said that he hears all the
parents say the same thing and then he looks at the Constitution and realizes that it is not
supported. He said that he feels bad for the Commissioners. He said the decision the Board
makes tonight affects everyone here and the future of the county. He said he likes living here
and asked them to do the right thing and vote against this.
Commissioner McKee asked if John Roberts was aware of law enforcement action on
any of the protests to arrest or remove any of the folks.
John Roberts said that when he spoke to Sheriff Blackwood about this potential
ordinance several months ago, he said that he or his deputies did not encounter any illegal
activity at, what he believes, was the protest or demonstration that led to this ordinance
discussion.
Commissioner McKee said that is the same discussion he had with the Sheriff. He
asked Mr. Roberts if he had heard of any physical altercations or if any harm came to anyone at
any of the demonstrations.
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John Roberts said not to his knowledge.
Commissioner McKee said he has not either. He said that the school board approached
the Board due to a concern over students. He said he has sat through multiple discussions on
this, and has not heard of physical harm or crime, or threatening actions. He said this is a
solution looking for a problem. He said he understands that some people may feel intimidated,
and have angst, but no one is ever guaranteed protection against this. He said his primary
concern on an action like this is abridgment of freedom of speech. He said that without that
right, a lot of injustices that have occurred in past years, particularly to Black citizens, would not
have been addressed without people being vocal and protesting. He said he can't support this.
He said that 1,000 feet means that someone can't stand on Churton St. and would have to
stand at the intersection. He said that he has concerns with the younger children but they are
more resilient than a lot of people think. He said that he remembers growing up and hearing
language about certain groups of people and he immediately knew that was not right. He said
that his parents enforced that it was not right. He said that he expects a lot of parents at the
meeting are concerned about their children and other people's children, and he does not
believe they are at a point where they need to address this as a Board. He said that the Board
has enacted a lot of programs to reduce the interactions of law enforcement with citizens to
keep people out of the court system. He said that this would enact civil penalties, debt, and
allows the county to seek other equitable forms of relief against people who are on private
property. He said passing this puts law enforcement agency right in the middle.
Commissioner Hamilton thanked everyone for coming and said it is good to hear
concerns of this group. She said she hears a lot of concerns from parents about what is going
on at Orange County schools. She said she was on the CHCCS Board and understands that it
is difficult for parents to be heard. She said that there are a lot of ways that parents can work
together to be heard at schools without affecting the school environment of the students. She
said she supported this ordinance because she was concerned about what has occurred at
Orange County Schools. She said that she watched some videos from the events and went to
the Sheriff's Office to talk with them about it as well. She said that she spoke with individuals
that did feel intimidated by what happened. She said that she listened to the resolutions. She
said that as someone in mental health field, she has worked with students who have been
traumatized and intimidated. She said she does not take lightly the kind of school environment
that allows all children to feel safe. She said that there is an epidemic of mental health crisis in
this country. She said that there are a lot of factors, and it is paramount to have a school
climate that is safe to everybody. She said she is open to revising the distances. She said it is
important to have all students feel safe. She said that is the genesis to have an ordinance for
picketing. She said that there are other ways to do it and she encouraged them to do that,
including coming to the Whitted Building. She said she is in support of the county attorney's
recommended changes and agrees with lessening 1,000 feet to 450 or what is in line with other
ordinances.
Commissioner Bedford said this ordinance specifically excludes places of public
meetings. She said she supports this ordinance. She said that children need protection from
some behaviors of adults. She said there are other venues for adults to protest. She said that
she accepts the recommendations from the attorney and that 450 feet is more appropriate.
Commissioner Greene said there were people in favor at the last board meeting. She
said she is leery of this ordinance. She said she did not have evidence of the harm to students
and is not ready to move forward with this ordinance at this time. She said there is a long
history of political protests and as long as they are nonviolent, she doesn't believe children
going in and out of schools should be shielded from seeing a protest. She said that she doesn't
believe this is an urgent curtailment of First Amendment rights. She does believe the attorney
has accurately stated what the First Amendment is about. She said that the reasoning is that
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she has not been convinced that there is harm that has been inflicted and she thinks that it is
important to allow people to protest in these circumstances.
Commissioner Richards thanked everyone for attending tonight. She said she believes
they have concerns about the school district that she hopes they are addressing those in a
forum other than just with the Board of Commissioners. She said she has respect for the right
of protestors and is disappointed in some of the reaction here. She said that it seems they are
saying that other people's concerns are not valid. She said that her concern is they were
presented with evidence. She said if they could accept that other people could be impacted in
ways that they are not, then people can be fair. She said that her biggest concern is the doubt
that Charles Lopez spoke to. She said she isn't ready to make a decision tonight. She said she
would like to understand more about the harm. She said she agrees with 450 feet and the other
recommendations by the county attorney.
Commissioner Fowler said she has participated in a demonstration on school property.
She said it was in support of teachers. She said the ordinance would make it more difficult but
weighing that against the student need to feel safe in a learning space which is tremendously
more important than inconvenience of finding a different place to protest. She said she
appreciates hearing the people's opinions and she appreciates that. She said that does not
mean we reserve the right to say anything, anytime, anywhere. She said the lack of an arrest
does not mean a lack of harm. She said she has been robbed in her office and she was not
physically harmed, and no one was arrested, but it leaves doubt. She said that if children do not
feel safe, they are required to go to school, and we want them to feel safe. She said it is
reasonable to consider how to make them feel safe. She said there are other ways to express
their opinions in emails, Facebook, at school board meetings, and at Board of Commissioners
meetings. She said that she agrees with the 450 feet. She said that if people feel the need to
wait, she said she is happy to wait.
Chair Price said this came to the Board from parents, school board members, and
students. She said they received a document from students. She said they are addressing
those concerns. She thanked the County Attorney for helping with this as was requested by the
Board. She also thanked the public for their points of view. She said that what bothers her is
that there is a gross misunderstanding of what this is about. She said from her perspective, the
Board was addressing a need to protect student's learning environment during school hours.
She said any other time outside of school hours, they can say whatever they want to say. She
said there are misunderstandings. She said the curriculum had nothing to do with this
ordinance. She said that her concern was to let the children go to school and not be bothered.
She said that she agreed with lessening the distance. She said no one is here tonight to speak
in favor, and the Board is in the middle, which is why she would be willing to wait, depending on
motion made by colleagues. She said she is concerned that the school board will be changing
in the next two weeks. She said the two coming on have been in the schools on a daily basis
and communicating on a daily basis. She said some people might think it is kicking the can
down the road but at the same time, there is a new school board that is going to be seated that
would have to carry out what is decided by the Board. She said that if there are concerns about
curriculum and the library, that is not what this is about, whatsoever. She said the Board is not
trying to restrict what is said to the school board.
Commissioner McKee asked John Roberts when this first came to the county.
John Roberts said it was either January 2022 or before.
Commissioner McKee said he understands the need to be deliberative. He said this is
the second reading of it, because this law requires that it be a second reading. He said he
doesn't know what is to be gained by pushing it down the road. He said he mentioned about
the effect of protests to address social justice issues and injustices. He said that growing up in
the 1950s and 1960s he heard people say they would address the racial issues later, but did
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not say when the right time is. He said that 100 years ago, the Board would have all looked like
him and that changed because of protests. He said that it needs to be addressed tonight. He
said that while it may not be overly aggressive, it creates a slippery slope. He said that he
thinks they should kill the ordinance tonight.
Commissioner Hamilton said she supports delaying this. She thinks it would need a
second reading to go over the substantial changes. She said that the intent in her mind was not
to stifle parents and it was to protect students. She said getting the input from the new school
board will be good in the time they are waiting. She said there is a place that people protest in
Chapel Hill and that is a place that invites people to come and say what they want. She said
that there are a lot of protests and demonstrations that people get permits for. She said they
can support free speech and the rights of parents to advocate for their children and protect the
environment for all students.
Commissioner Greene read the email from the County Attorney. She said that this is a
second reading with different language. She said that is what is on the table but that is not what
was in the packet. She said there is a lot of confusion here about what the Board might be
doing. She said she does not think there is evidence, but it could come back more clearly so
they can have a debate about what it is.
Chair Price said the school board not listening to the parents is unacceptable. She said
that she hopes with the new board, it may be different. She said if not, come back to them and
they can try to do something. She said that parents should be in the schools as they feel they
should be. She said that many years ago she tutored in the schools and was astounded by how
many parents didn't even come to pick their child up after school.
Commissioner McKee made a motion to reject the County Manager's recommendation
and take no further action on this item.
The motion died for lack of a second.
A motion was made by Commissioner Hamilton, seconded by Commissioner Bedford, to
delay the discussion of the ordinance to a business meeting in October 2022.
Commissioner Richards asked if it was possible to specify in the ordinance while
children are present.
John Roberts said that it was included.
Commissioner Richards said she read it and it does not say when students are present.
John Roberts said it applies only during school hours or school activities during which
students are present on school property for educational, athletic, or school-sponsored
extracurricular activities.
Commissioner Richards said that has to stay in there and be clear.
Chair Price said the motion on the floor was to delay discussion of the ordinance to
October.
Commissioner Richards asked if when it comes back in October if that will be the first or
second reading.
John Roberts said that if the changes were more restrictive, it would have to come back
for a first and second reading. He said that the proposed changes were less restrictive. He said
that as a policy matter, it doesn't have to come back for a second reading. He said the statute
that was passed last year says a first reading and then the next regular meeting, so for that
reason, it will come back for a first and second reading.
Chair Price said it will come back as a new ordinance in the fall, at which time the Board
could get input from other school board members and parents.
Commissioner McKee asked why the delay until October.
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Chair Price said that September provides time to draft changes, and then it could be
ready for October.
Commissioner McKee said it is already drafted.
Chair Price said it could be difference because it is coming back for a first reading. She
said that if the Board delays discussion of the ordinance it would have to be newly considered.
She said that the ordinance will basically die, or it will be comatose.
Commissioner McKee said it will not die with the motion.
Chair Price said John Roberts said the ordinance will have to come back for a first and
second reading.
Commissioner McKee said staff will retype the ordinance. He said changes were made
during the meeting.
John Roberts said whenever the Board wants it to come back, it will come back for a
first reading and a second reading. He said there would not be changes unless the Board
directs those between now and the first reading.
Commissioner Hamilton said she pulled October out of the hat, because the Board did
not know what might be on the agenda in September. She said a delay will give the schools
time to have input and they can see where things stand. She said she is okay with rethinking
this and if there is a way to protect children and not abridge other peoples' rights.
Commissioner Greene asked what the Board needed to do to change the language
about the definition of picketing to add for a protest or demonstration and take out the other
clause.
John Roberts said no specific action is needed but if the Board agrees with it, he will
bring that to the Board. He said it would be a completely new first reading. He said that if the
Board was adopting at the meeting, they would need to specify adoption with the amendment
as proposed or as recommended.
Commissioner Greene said if the Board was in support of the amended language.
The Commissioners agreed.
Chair Price said she would like to speak with the members of the school board and
invite them to a meeting so they can hear all sides.
Commissioner Fowler said that the previous discussion included pickets and the size of
the signs. She asked if Board decided that they were not going to regulate the size of the
signs.
Commissioner Greene said no, because it's not allowed under the proposed ordinance,
so there is no reason to regulate the size.
Commissioner Fowler said that the public can still picket outside of the Whitted building.
She asked if the Board did not want to address the issue at that time.
The Commissioners indicated that they did not want to address that issue.
VOTE: Ayes, 6 (Chair Price, Commissioner Bedford, Commissioner Fowler,
Commissioner Greene, Commissioner Hamilton, Commissioner Richards); Nays, 1
(Commissioner McKee)
MOTION PASSES 6-1
7. Reports
None.
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8. Consent Agenda
• Removal of Any Items from Consent Agenda
• Approval of Remaining Consent Agenda
• Discussion and Approval of the Items Removed from the Consent Agenda
A motion was made by Commissioner McKee, seconded by Commissioner
Greene, to approve the consent agenda.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
a. Minutes
The Board approved the draft minutes from the May 10, 2022 and May 12, 2022 Board of
County Commissioners meetings.
b. Motor Vehicle Property Tax Releases/Refunds
The Board approved a resolution to release motor vehicle property tax values for three
taxpayers with a total of three bills that will result in a reduction of revenue.
c. Property Tax Releases/Refunds
The Board approved a resolution to release property tax values for one taxpayer with a total of
one bill that will result in a reduction of revenue.
d. Amendment to the Advisory Board Policy
The Board approved one substantive deletion from the Advisory Board Policy.
e. Fiscal Year 2021-22 Budget Amendment#13
The Board approved a budget amendment for Fiscal Year 2021-22.
f. Capacity Building Competitive Grant Award Acceptance
The Board accepted a Capacity Building Competitive Grant award and authorized the County
Manager to sign all grant documents necessary to execute the award between the County and
the North Carolina Emergency Management Division.
g. Excellance, Inc. Ambulance Purchase Service Agreement
The Board authorized the Manager to sign all documents necessary to execute the purchase of
three (3) ambulances from Excellance, Inc.
h. Updates to the Assistance Policy for the 2020 North Carolina Housing Finance
Agency (NCHFA) Essential Single Family Rehabilitation Loan Pool (ESFR20)
The Board authorized the Manager to sign the Orange County Assistance Policy for Essential
Single-Family Rehabilitation Loan Pool 2020 & Local Single-Family Rehabilitation Loans,
thereby adopting the policy.
i. JCPC Certification and County Plan for FY 2022-2023
The Board approved the JCPC Certification and County Plan for FY 2022-2023 and authorized
the Chair to sign the associated documents.
j. Resolution of Approval — Amendment to the Iski (Panthers Branch) Conservation
Easement
The Board adopted the Resolution approving the amendment to the conservation easement
and authorized the Chair to sign the Resolution and conservation easement amendment.
k. Contract Approval for the Whitted Complex Roof Replacement
The Board approved a construction contract with Owens Roofing, Inc. for the replacement of
the existing Whitted Complex roofing system; and authorized the County Manager to execute
the Agreement and to execute any subsequent amendments for contingent and unforeseen
requirements up to the approved budget amount on behalf of the Board, upon final County
Attorney review.
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I. Orange County Southern Campus Expansion Stormwater Operations and
Maintenance Plan Agreement with Town of Chapel Hill (2501 Homestead Road,
Chapel Hill)
The Board approved the Stormwater Operations and Maintenance Plan Agreement with the
Town of Chapel Hill for the Orange County Southern Campus Expansion Stormwater Control
Measures; and authorized the Chair to sign the necessary paperwork upon final County
Attorney review.
m. Memorandum of Agreement with Administrative Office of the Courts
The Board authorized the Manager to sign the Memorandum of Agreement with the
Administrative Office of the Courts upon final review of the County Attorney.
n. Contract with the WB Brawley Company for Renovation of the West Campus Office
Building Third Floor
The Board approved a construction contract with the WB Brawley Company for the renovation
of the third floor of the West Campus Office Building and authorized the County Manager to
execute the Agreement and to execute any subsequent amendments for contingent and
unforeseen requirements up to the approved budget amount on behalf of the Board, upon final
County Attorney review.
o. Approval of Senior Lunch Caterer Contract
The Board approved and authorized the Manager to sign a food service caterer contract to
provide noon meals for the Home and Community Care Block Grant-funded Senior Lunch
Program at the Seymour and Passmore Centers, following review and approval by the County
Attorney.
p. Revised Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) for the Orange County Partnership to
End Homelessness (OCPEH)
The Board approved and authorized the Chair to sign a revised Memorandum of Understanding
for the Orange County Partnership to End Homelessness that reflects operations in place since
Fall 2020.
q. Fundinq Agreement Between Oranqe County and Alliance Health
The Board approved a funding agreement with Alliance Health for $1,164,848 ($897,045 in
MOE and $267,803 in outside agency funds), authorized the Chair to sign the agreement, and
authorized the County Manager to approve changes or amendments to the agreement during
FY 2022-23.
r. Authorization for the Chair to Sign a Letter of Intent to Realign with the Capital Area
Workforce Development Board
The Board authorized the Chair and staff to enter negotiations with Capital Area Workforce
Development Board on the details of alignment; authorized the Chair to sign a letter of intent to
realign with the Capital Area Workforce Board; and authorized staff to coordinate the
realignment process as prescribed by the Department of Commerce, including the development
of the consortium agreement for consideration by the Board.
s. Regulation of Gatherings on and near School Property and Public Playgrounds
This item was pulled from the consent agenda at the start of the meeting and made item 6-d.
t. Proposed Sale of the County Property (PIN #9779088613) Located in Chapel Hill
The Board approved the sale of the 0.12 acre parcel of property having PIN# 9779088613
located in Chapel Hill, NC through a negotiated offer, advertisement and upset bid process, in
accordance with North Carolina General Statute 160A-269; approved and authorized the Chair
to sign the resolution authorizing the sale through this process; and authorized the County
Manager to conduct the sale, accept the highest bid, and execute all necessary documents to
complete the sale.
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u. Orange County Board of Adjustment Member Removal
The Board approve the removal of Scott Taylor as a member of the Board of Adjustment (BOA)
for non-compliance with Section IV of the Board of Adjustment's Rules of Procedure.
9. County Manager's Report
Bonnie Hammersley reviewed the Board's agenda for their Board retreat on Thursday,
June 23, 2022 from 9:00 AM-4:00 PM at the Bonnie B. Davis Center. She said they will discuss
Article 46 Sales Tax Proceeds Usage and Allocations in the morning along with the Board of
Commissioner's goals and priorities, followed by a discussion on Board operations in the
afternoon.
10. County Attorney's Report
John Roberts said filing deadlines for the state legislature came and went a few weeks
ago, and they have only passed three or four bills so far, and none with local impact. He said he
will continue to report if there are any bills passed with local impacts over the summer.
11. *Appointments
Added at the beginning of the meeting
The Board considered designating a member of the Alcoholic Beverage Control (ABC) Board
as Chair.
BACKGROUND: Pursuant to G.S. 1813-700, the Board of Commissioners shall designate a
member of the local ABC Board to serve as Chair. The ABC Board has recommended Patrick
Burns be appointed as Chair.
One of the following ABC Board members may be designated as Chair:
NAME POSITION DESCRIPTION EXPIRATION
DATE
Patrick Burns At-Large 06/30/2024
(current chair)
Judson Williamson At-Large 06/30/2024
Mike Zito At-Large 06/30/2023
Alice Mahood At-Large 06/30/2023
Elizabeth Carter At-Large 06/30/2025
Commissioner Fowler said Patrick Burns was nominated as Chair, and Elizabeth Carter
as Vice-Chair, at the most recent ABC Board meeting. She said the Board is bound by state law
to appoint an ABC Board member to serve as Chair, and that person then appoints the Vice-
Chair.
A motion was made by Commissioner Fowler, seconded by Commissioner McKee to
designate Patrick Burns as Chair of the ABC Board.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
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12. Information Items
• June 7, 2022 BOCC Meeting Follow-up Actions List
• Memorandum — Orange County Installs Twelve New Electric Vehicle Chargers as Part
of Clean Fuels Advanced Technology Grant Program
• Memorandum — Orange County Participating in Solarize the Triangle Program
• Memorandum — Orange County Public Library Strategic Plan 2022-2027
13. Closed Session
None.
14. Adjournment
Commissioner McKee informed the Board he will not be physically present for the Board
retreat on Thursday.
A motion was made by Commissioner Fowler, seconded by Commissioner Bedford, to
adjourn the meeting at 9:33 p.m.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
Renee Price, Chair
Recorded by Tara May, Deputy Clerk to the Board
Submitted for approval by Laura Jensen, Clerk to the Board.