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MINUTES
ORANGE COUNTY
BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
BUDGET PUBLIC HEARING AND WORK SESSION
May 10, 2022
7:00 p.m.
The Orange County Board of Commissioners met for a Budget Public Hearing and Work
Session on Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 7:00 p.m. at the Whitted Human Services Center in
Hillsborough, NC.
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Chair Renee Price, Vice Chair Jamezetta Bedford,
and Commissioners Amy Fowler, Sally Greene, Jean Hamilton, Earl McKee, and Anna
Richards
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ABSENT:
COUNTY ATTORNEYS PRESENT: John Roberts
COUNTY STAFF PRESENT: County Manager Bonnie Hammersley, Deputy County Manager
Travis Myren, and Clerk to the Board Laura Jensen. (All other staff members will be identified
appropriately below)
Chair Price called the meeting to order at 7:01 p.m.
1. Opening Remarks
Chair Price welcomed everyone and reviewed the agenda.
Chair Price dispensed with reading the public charge.
2. Presentation of the County Manager's Recommended FY 2022-23 Budget
(PowerPoint Presentation)
Travis Myren made a presentation on the FY23 recommended budget:
Slide #1
ORANGE COUNTY
NORTH CAROLINA
FY2022-23
COUNTY MANAGER
RECOMMENDED BUDGET
May 3, 2022
BOCC Business Meeting
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Slide #2
F 2022-23 RECOMMENDED BUDGET
BUDGET PRIORITIES
Structurally Balanced Budget
• Maintain funding of the Social Safety net services
• Increase Public Safety and Education Investments
• Retain and Recruit Employees
• Long-Term. Financial Planning
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F 2022-23 RECOMMENDED BUDGET
FV21021-22 to M022-23 Revenue Growth
RealFtopeLtc S165M $1T2M $7.4.V I4.5%
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Sales Tax S28.9M $35.6M $6.W 123% f
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Senwe Res St2AM S14M S1.5%1 12.4%
O71x,Reve;lkie S3-M S.,'-M 150.231j ,l l°'ol
Total $238.7M Q5,54M $16.7M 7'l
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Travis Myren said most revenues in the county have performed well over the past year.
He said sales tax is measuring a 23% growth from last year's budget. He said this means the
federal stimulus payments and local efforts to support the economy were effective.
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Slide #4
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Travis Myren said property taxes and sales tax make up 86% of the county's general
fund revenue, so recommendations in those areas are critical.
Slide #5
ORANGE COUNTY FY 2022- 3 BUDGET
FY 202 -23 Revenue Recommendations
Property Tax Rate Increase
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Travis Myren said last year the Commissioners decided to use one-time funding to
prevent a tax increase, which now must be replaced with a sustainable revenue source.
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Travis Myren noted the highest expenditures are education, human services, and public
service. He said when those categories are combined with the county's debt service obligation
for school and county facilities, it equals about 83% of the total expenditures.
Slide #7
FY2022-23 RECOMMENDED MMENDED BUDGET
FV 2022-23 Recommended Expenditures
Highlights
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Slide #8
FY2022.,-23 RECOMMENDED BUDGET
ED1`iJCATION —STUDENT ENROLLMENT
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Travis Myren said current expense funding is distributed to the school districts based on
student enrollment. He said both school districts experienced a decline in total funded students.
Slide #9
FY2022-23 RECOMMENDED BUDGET
EDUCATION —CURRENT EXPENSE FUNDING
Ctuneni Expev�c 553,936 817 $62,983,553 155,00'7,882 51,0'1,065
P.Pup1L $4 3b r $5,081 54,808 5-143
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Prr.PLTa 54,367 $5,061 1 54," 5441
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Travis Myren said there is $93.6 million in total current expense funding.
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Slide #10
FY2022-23 RECOMMENDED BUDGET
EDUCATION — PER STUDENT FUNDING HISTORY
Year I Fcr slva= 5 lareesse I 96 GF Fzyemit
FY23i5-ia 5 3,b4 .50 S 126.30 49. °-a
FY201d-17 I # 3,86&00 S 170.50 I so.
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FY2018-19 5 4,165.00 3 174.00 50.1%
FY2020-21 5 #,W..N 5 14.75 49.4741
FY2022-23 S 9,St16.04 S 441-00 4?.19e
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FY2022-23 RECOMMENDED BUDGET
EDUCATION
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Ctuient E! eases* 5 777,092 5 822.020 5 M9.4U5 5 32,313 .
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Travis Myren said the county also provides funding to Durham Technical College at the
Orange County Campus to fund non-instructional activities. He said that those expenses are
budgeted to increase by 3%. He said the back to work initiative and the promise scholarships
are funded out of the Article 46 sales tax revenues.
Slide #12
FY2022-23 RECOMMENDED BUDGET
PUDI I C SAFETY- INVESTMENT
Services _ 8.Mr S= -
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1 unial Scrviccs VCtuillorian 1 FIE 5 134.()37
:Social Services Social&-rrices Asst 1 FTE---F"5 24,368
Health D6 LI621 1 FTE S
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Health Health Llrtrf II 0-40 FTE, $
EAPR Park f_'r�ordiaator 3 FTE $ 62,96-
Total w/Public Safety 34.1)FTE S 611,018
Travis Myren said that another priority is public safety and investing in those work
forces. He said this budget will add twelve full time positions in the Emergency Services
Department and fifteen detention officers added in the Sheriff's office.
Slide #13
FY2022-23 RECOMMENDED MENDED BUDGET
EMPLOYEE RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION
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Travis Myren said because of higher turnover rates and inability to fill positions, turnover
savings will pay for 3% increase for county employees. He said the county is mandated by the
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local government retirement system to increase its contribution. He noted that the county is not
immune to the competitive employment market and must try to keep up with the local
employment market.
Slide #14
FY2022-23 FXCOMMENDED BUDGET
OUTSIDE AGENCIE
Base Budget Request Manager Increase
Recarnmend
Agencies Funded 5% 58 53 (4)
Total 51,729,953 $2,238,645$ 1.894,690 5 164,737
+ An additional S45,001)is prmidrd to arm-•dated outsi&agcn{u5 in th[ViSiWES Btucau
Fund.
• 711C$owd of Counts Corn a7 Ssiancrs establislud a target of f n o of geiuiml fund
espellsea to outside a8eociea FY2022-23 Recoeiunendation allocates 13YIo to outside
agencies,
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Travis Myren said this budget has 1.35% of expenditures dedicated to outside agencies.
Slide #15
FY2022-23 RECOMMENDED BUDGET
FIRS: DI 'TRY 'r
FIREDISTRICT CURRENT REQUESTED RECOMMENDED
TAX RATE INCREASE TAX RATE
cedai Grove $0.0763 W" S0.0763
Cliaprel Hill S0.1387 SU_00 30.13a- —
I]amaacus $0106Q1004.11ffi4
E eland $0.0728 $1.00 $0.0929
Eno $0,10898 $1.00 $0.0998
L,7t:sR3VEi 500639 sok7q 5F)C,539
New Hope � $0,1012 -- $1.41 $0.11516
(>•tackge Grove _ $0.0627 $1.00 $0.0727
C}ra.uge l�ua3 I 50.0949 SO_UO 50.09d9
SctS;lt t7�z:f�e 50,09�79 S{1.OG S��,G909
Scutherri Triarigle $0.1090 $1.00 $0.11$t3
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Travis Myren said almost all the requested increases are due to increasing personnel
costs and the inability to fully staff with volunteers.
Slide #16
M022-23 FXCOMMENDED BUDGET
AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT (ARPA)
Firc D15trici P25 Phasc II Compliaat Radio Rcplaccmcat
Hau4iug L+�catoe 5.��,895
Housing Helpliue $205,090
I_:Millord I uU unM-Prognin S2+],000
Broadband Iafrastracmrc Dcsign and Irnplcmcntatiav $5,W0,000
Childcare Support Nreat Fees S541i1,000
Housing_ Hsi and SOER D $4,797,643
Totalimm� $12,372,828
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R.-coinnunded Budget also includes S5?0,OW in Gone=a!Fiuid wsources to beau&C
transition froin ARPA to snstautabk,ongoing rrrmue_
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Travis Myren said the county was awarded $28.8 million and this budget recommends
allocating $12,372,372, with $4.8 million remaining.
Slide #17
FY2022-23 MECOMMENDED BUDGET
BUD E'T'CALENDAIt
BUDGET PUBLIC HEARINGS DATE
Budget and Capital Investment Plan(CIP) -May 10 8c Juule 2
BUDGET WORK SESSION SCHEDULE DATE
Schools and Outside Agencies -Mav 12
Fire District,Public Safer quid Blunlan Sere ices Xrfty 19
Durham Tcch,Support Sr T'xs,Gm-end CTovcramcatand J1a3.26
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BOCC BUDGET ADOPTION DATE
FYZ022-23 013crating;nd C F Budget Adoption J1311C 21
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Slide #18
FY2022-23 RECOMMENDED MENDED BUDGET
MISSION STATEMENT
Orange County exists to provide governmental ser-iees needed by our
Residents or mandated by the State of North Carolina.
To provide these quality senices efficiently,we must,,
❑ Serve the Residents of Orange Courity—Our Re aidents Come Fist;
❑ Depend on the energy,skills, and dedication of all our employees and
volunteers,
❑ Treat all our Residents and Employees with fairness,respect,and
understandin&
Qma," C'oynM Resrderrts Come F}rst
ORANGE COUNTY
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3. Public Comments
The board held a public hearing to receive comments on the FY23 recommended
budget.
A motion was made by Commissioner McKee and seconded by Commissioner Fowler to
open the public hearing.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
Allison Jaillet thanked the Commissioners for the opportunity to speak. She said
teachers deserve more than the 3% raise and 6 weeks paid parental leave they are asking for.
She said she has taught science for the last 11 years in three different states and 2 different
countries. During these years she said she has had to break up physical fights resulting in her
own injuries, been sexually harassed and stalked by a student with no support from
administration because they said the student had to stay in her class to graduate, had weapons
brought into her classroom, had a student who died from gun violence, had a student who
overdosed, taken a pay cut when moving to North Carolina, had students cut themselves in her
classroom, been told to go back to her own country, been screamed at by parents, had
administration control her work visa, been emotionally abused by administration, and been
cursed at and called names. She said in 2019 the building beside her school exploded and she
sustained long term injuries. She said she returned to school after one week because her
administrator did not support teachers taking off extended time. She said she developed PTSD
and she still deals with the side effects. She said her husband left teaching, went back to
school, and now his starting salary is her maximum salary. She said she loves being a middle
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school teacher, but she is looking at a job as a curriculum writer that will pay $20,000 more as a
starting salary than what she makes now with her masters and it has paid maternity leave. She
said teachers are leaving so they can afford to live and have families. She said teachers are
leaving due to being disrespected, injured, and insulted, and for their own safety and sanity.
She said teachers are leaving quicker than they can be replaced and children will suffer. She
said a fully funded budget is an attempt to gain back respect and make it possible for teachers
to live and continue to work in their chosen profession.
Laura Jensen, Clerk to the Board, read the following comment emailed to the Board of
Commissioners from Erskine Alvis at 3:38 PM:
"Thank you for the privilege to address you tonight via letter. I write you today as I am
ill, and I cannot attend the Board of County Commissioners meeting tonight to hear comments
for and against the budget for the County's upcoming fiscal year. If I was there, then I would
certainly offer my comments below in person.
I write you in the most vigorous language possible. I ask you to approve the budget for
the Chapel Hill Carrboro City School system and the Orange County Schools. I ask you to do
this without further delay and to do this without further delay. These two districts represent the
best in elementary, secondary, and community education in North Carolina. In many ways,
they serve as a model of education and educational leadership for so many in other parts of our
country. We need this clarity now more than ever as we are a people more divided than we
have been in 150 years since the horrors of the American Civil War.
In Orange County, North Carolina, we are a beacon of hope. We are all so fortunate to
live here.
I am a retired 22-year U.S. Navy Chaplain. I deployed from Japan to Afghanistan.
deployed to war. I have seen the Hell of what human beings can create for each other. I have
seen the horror of inhumanity. And yet, it was my privilege to be in military service to our
country. It was my honor.
For the past 3 months, I have had the privilege to serve as a long-term substitute
teacher for the Chapel Hill Carrboro City Schools. It is a PRIVILEGE to serve. It is my honor.
Like my military service, I have already experienced the joys and the sorrows of
humanity. In my role, I have seen the hope, the clarity, and the care mixed with and incredible
mix of competence and commitment by our educators — be they in the classroom or elsewhere
— as they work so hard to do so much for so many. I include ALL staff members in the term
educators. This includes EVERYONE who works for the school system and in the school
buildings proper and within the system. They not only serve our students by their high degree
of professionalism, but they also serve our students' families, they serve our community, and
most importantly, they serve what kind of future our country needs and will have long after all of
us are gone from where we are now.
To quote the late U.S. Air Force Brigadier General Chuck Yeager from about the time
that he broke the sound barrier in 1947, "No bucks. No Buck Rogers." This budget represents
the clarity of such thinking.
I offer the following examples of why you need to approve this budget as presented in its
entirety.
First, there was the young student from a foreign land who is an immigrant. She
struggles with English. When I covered the class for her teacher one day, she asked me if she
had completed the work properly. Via email, I checked with her teacher. He contacted me.
She has done it beautifully. When I shared his affirmation of her with her, she beamed in an
ear-to-ear smile. She works so hard. She just wants to be part of the American Dream.
Second, there was the young student that queried me about military service when he
learned of mine. He wanted to know what it was like. He wanted to know if I was ever scared.
I told him, "Of course I was scared. We all were. The main thing is if you are honest with
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yourself and with each other." He had a better understanding of the challenges ahead of him
as he had enlisted in the Delayed Entry Program of one of our military branches."
At this point the comment time expired.
Margo Ginsberg said she is the parent of a student at Ephesus Elementary in the
CHCCS district and a homeowner. She asked the Board to fully fund the CHCCS budget
request. She said in the past year the County has collected $6 million more in sales tax than
was projected. She expressed her disapproval that the Commissioners have not approved
CHCCS budget request. She said the funds are essential to providing the highest quality
education to children. She said almost 50% of funding to pay teachers and staff comes from
Orange County and is determined by the Commissioners. She said students have gone without
needed services and instructors because of a historic number of open positions that have gone
unfilled. She said the recommended portion of the budget for education is 1% lower than the
Commissioners' own target and is 10% lower than what the Wake County manager is
recommending. She said CHCCS is no longer in the top three for local supplement pay for
teachers and staff. She said it is imperative to remain competitive in compensation in order to
recruit and maintain the best quality educators.
Lindsay Bedford read the following:
"Good Evening Chairwoman Price, Vice Chairwoman Bedford, and County
Commissioners. My name is Lindsay Bedford and I am Chair of the CHCCS Special Needs
Advisory Council (SNAC). I come to you tonight to ask you to please fully fund the proposed
budget that Dr. Hamlett and our Board of Education have brought before you.
The education of many of the exceptional children, or EC, in our district is in crisis. EC
students, the most vulnerable in our schools, have been disproportionately impacted by the
great resignation. This is true across our nation. An NPR article published on April 21 spoke
about the crisis facing special needs students, and highlighted Hawaii's efforts that started in
2020 to hire and retain more EC staff by increasing their pay by $10,000. In 2019, 30% of EC
teaching positions in Hawaii were vacant, now the number is 15%.
As you can see from the data I have provided to you tonight, 1/10th of the students in
CHCCS receive EC services. Yet, 1/3 of the vacant positions in our district are those of
individuals who provide direct services to EC students. There are occupational and physical
therapists who are leaving because our state still considers them classified employees and
pays them as such. There are general education teachers who are trying desperately to pick-up
the pieces for students who are rapidly regressing academically, behaviorally, and socially, but
do not have all of the necessary training and dozens of other students to educate. There are
students in our district who have gone the entire year without certified EC teaching staff.
Instead they are being served by a revolving door of hopefully long-term substitutes who show
up every day and give their best, but are not trained in the specialized skills needed to provide
our students with the Free and Appropriate Public Education that they are entitled to.
A week ago, I sent you a petition that was signed by over 200 CHCCS community
members supporting Dr. Hamlett's proposal to provide a 2.5% increase for EC teachers and an
additional 2.5% for adapted curriculum teachers. In this petition, there are 88 narratives -
stories of how vacancies have negatively impacted families, but also stories of how valuable our
teachers who are here are to us. I hope that you took the time to read the document and will
consider the stories you hear firsthand tonight.
Our nation is in crisis. Chapel Hill-Carrboro City Schools is in crisis. The profession of
teaching is in crisis. It is time for our society to show up and value our teachers for the
monumental work they do every day. I believe in Orange County and I believe we value our
children's education and thus our teachers. It is time for us to be brave and bold to support the
future of our community."
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Marisa Kathard said her daughter is a junior EC student at East Chapel Hill High School.
She said she has been a SNAC advocate for 10 years. She said the recent staffing shortages
have become critical and detrimental to fulfilling the school's mission. She said that as a
pediatrician, it is a struggle to juggle work and be present at home to support her daughter,
especially when there was remote learning during the pandemic. She said her daughter has
had four classroom teachers in three years because of the high turnover, and no classroom
teacher since November 2021. She said there have been no applicants for the vacancy. She
said her daughter's IEP goals are not being addressed due to the absence of a certified EC
teacher. She said the second TA in the classroom resigned at the beginning of April, and her
daughter's skills are regressing. She said the school speech therapist and occupational
therapist also resigned. She expressed concern for EC students whose families cannot afford
these services privately. She said CHCCS is touted as one of the best districts in the state but
are falling short. She said EC resource teachers at East have 30 students instead of 17 due to
vacancies. She said EC students have been disproportionately impacted by teacher vacancies.
She urged the Board to support the CHCCS budget request and said it would allow CHCCS to
recruit and retain high quality EC teachers for the most vulnerable students in the county.
Mella Diaz said the most disadvantaged in society are always left behind. She said
those who choose to teach EC students are exceptional. She said being able to instill the
concept of what is safe and what is dangerous keeps children like her own son alive, and
understanding how to teach communication to EC students is paramount to their existence. She
said many students in the adapted curriculum classes have behavioral complexities that need to
be baselined, mapped, and have support built into their daily lives that enable them to access
the academic environment. She said the school district must have the ability to hire EC
teachers at competitive rates and must provide the training and support EC students need
including undervalued occupational and physical therapists. She said the lack of availability of
teachers who can facilitate much needed care for the disabled is astounding, and the few who
do are underpaid. She said the average salary for teachers in North Carolina is a disgrace, and
the workload for EC teachers is beyond the norm which is reflected in the number of vacancies.
She said it is regrettable that EC administration must spend countless hours searching all over
the country for teaching staff. She requested the Board fully fund the CHCCS Budget request to
support EC teachers, EC administrative staff, and resources needed to fully staff schools with
qualified teachers for students with disabilities. She said this is an equity and safety issue, and
lack of adequate support for EC students puts them at risk physically and academically.
Linda Gilchrist said her family moved to CHCCS district 11 years ago from the Chicago
suburbs. She said she and her family are passionate about public education and dedicate time
and resources to schools. She said she is disappointed the Commissioners will not fully fund
the budget requests. She said many students haven't had a Spanish teacher or CTE teachers
for most of the year at East Chapel Hill High School, and there is a lack of staff and assistant
principals. She said education is the key to the success of society and the county needs to
adequately fund good public education. She said she lives in a nice area of Chapel Hill, but
many families in her neighborhood are planning to send their children to private schools. She
said Chapel Hill is the cornerstone of education in North Carolina, and the community and
county need to support students, teachers, and staff.
Christina Clark said she is the president of the Orange County Association of Educators
and is an English teacher at Cedar Ridge High School in Hillsborough. She said the past two
years have been difficult for everyone in school systems, but issues have been festering for
years. She said after the state legislature has failed for many years to fund education and pay
school staff fairly, the pandemic was the last straw for many. She said those who considered
leaving education before the pandemic are gone, and those who never did are considering it
now. She said long-term substitutes have become ubiquitous in classrooms and administrative
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roles. She said substitutes are appreciated, but students are frustrated and demoralized with
the disruptions and lack of relationship building. She said data shows that the most important
factor in student success is the relationship between students and teachers. She said a survey
of Orange County Schools' staff showed the top reason they would consider staying would be a
raise in pay. She said the OCS budget request seeks to address long-standing issues with the
way school staff is paid in OCS. She said one of the worst examples of the unfairness in the
OCS pay scale is that hourly workers don't receive a raise until they have worked in the district
for 22 years. She said classified staff perform numerous tasks that make it possible for
administrators and teachers to do their jobs. She said turnover in these positions is
unsustainable. She said it is not easy to learn the interworking of a school from scratch, but
classified staff are not paid accordingly. She said fully funding the OCS budget request is a
vital responsibility to this community and impacts all other areas of the Commissioners' work.
She said her organization is committed to pressuring OCS to spend their budget responsibly
and holding them accountable to investing in school staff. She said Orange County should be
leading the state in innovating education, not losing students to charter schools and online
corporate education. She requested the Board fully fund the OCS budget request.
Ashley Sherman said she is the school counselor at Ephesus Elementary and has been
with CHCCS for 10 years. She thanked the Board for their work and expressed appreciation.
She said she is the only counselor at her school and serves 400 students, 90 colleagues, and
several hundred family members. She said this is double nationally recommended average
counselor to student ratio. She said in the past couple of years she has been hit, stabbed,
punched, had a fire extinguisher sprayed on her, and run into traffic to try to prevent a student
in crisis from being hit by a car. She said it is not news that working in schools is hard and
compensation is not keeping up with the demands. She said she has seen a spike in mental
health concerns in students and colleagues. She said she loves her job, it is important, she is
good at it, and she is here tonight because she wants to be able to keep doing it. She said she
is also here for veteran colleagues who make less now with inflation than 20 years ago, those
who have put in 15 years of service and will not receive an increase for another decade, those
who have to use donated leave time to stay home with newborns, and the 23 colleagues that
have reached out this year for mental health referrals to cope with the impossible job they are
all doing. She said most importantly, she is here for students and families that are losing
educators who cannot afford to stay in the job. She said the CHCCS budget request is a first
step in addressing the unprecedented school staffing gap. She said it isn't fair that this need
has fallen to the Commissioners because in a perfect world the state of North Carolina would
be leading the way in across the board educator compensation. She said Orange County is
lucky to see increasing revenues and have the ability to meet school needs head on. She said
CHCCS budget request includes salary increases and family leave benefits which will
demonstrate a commitment to schools and directly support students. She asked the Board to
amend the County Manager's recommended budget to fully fund the CHCCS and OCS budget
requests.
Brian Link said he is the president of the Chapel Hill-Carrboro Association of Educators.
He said all in attendance want the best for school teachers, students, and staff and asked the
Commissioners to keep the image of support in their minds when making budget decisions. He
said there is a historic amount of building taking place in Orange County, valuation of homes
are at historic rates, unemployment is at historic lows. He said those in education are told the
budget doesn't look good, but these circumstances are as good as it is going to get. He said
there is also historic inflation, record turnover rates and vacancies, the highest cost of living for
one adult and one child in the entire state of North Carolina, record concerns about
dissatisfaction in schools, mental health and safety, EC teachers are leaving in droves, and
students have gone 100 days with a teacher. He said while the budget is better than past two
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years, it isn't historic. He said the Board gave a higher percentage in the 1980s and 1990s, and
what is presented now is the smallest increment other than during the Great Recession and the
2000 Crisis. He said this is inadequate and Orange County needs to follow Durham and Wake
County, who are funding more in education and are willing to raise taxes to do it. He said the
Board has had great initiatives like Broadband and the 203 Project, but that has meant no
ARPA funding for schools and prevents a bond for education until 2026-27. He said there has
been efforts in affordable housing but the funds that are being generated are disproportionately
going away from schools. He said there is a lot of discussion about equity vs. equality and
education having to wait for other needs, but schools need funds now. He said whether it's by
raising taxes by 2 cents across the board or raising the special district tax, the Board needs to
act now.
Jessica Larson said she is a first year TA in an adapted classroom. She said she loves
her job and works with children with varying abilities and needs. She said she is scratched,
bitten, and more, but loves her job anyway and doesn't know if she can keep doing her job
making less than $17 an hour. She said she is a mother of two students in Chapel Hill, lives in
Hillsborough, and pays a lot of taxes. She said her niece currently makes more money at her
yoga studio. She asked the Commissioners to please help her keep her job. She said she is
honored to have her job and work with the students she does. She said the teacher in her
classroom went out on maternity leave, which required her to borrow time from coworkers, and
since then there has been a patchwork of substitutes who have not been able to last. She said
through it all, all she can do is support the students the best she can while they ask if she will
also be there tomorrow and as they move up in grade.
Zoe Read said she is an EC TA and the classroom environment requires high level
knowledge of behavior and behavior response that is individual to each student. She said
consistency, familiarity, and knowledge of individual students and their behaviors is vital to their
continued success and growth. She said you would think being in a career that requires such
expertise would be compensated in a way that is livable. She said this is her first year working
at Smith but has 6 years' experience in a self-contained classroom. She said her wage is 12
cents more than employees that have no working experience in the classroom, which values
her experience at only 2 cents more a year for her experience. She said a bus driver earns
$16.50 an hour and requires a high school diploma or GED., an Admin Assistant gets $17.41
an hour and requires a high school diploma, a secretary makes $17.04 and requires a high
school diploma, and EC support staff earn $16.05 an hour and must be highly qualified with 48
credits of college, 2 years or 7 credits of core work keys. She said with one dependent for
health insurance coverage, her monthly income is $1,448 as a single mom. She said having
experienced employees is just as important in any job, but in this job familiarity of students and
team is crucial to progress through daily challenges. She said safety of students and staff is a
daily concern. She said receiving a livable wage will help retain staff and reduce turnover while
creating an environment that will better serve students' individual needs. She said consistency
and familiarity in EC classrooms will be huge benefits to students and help them receive the
education they deserve. She said these students are often left behind, society does not fight for
them, and families are often overwhelmed. She said these students deserve better and deserve
a staff that knows how to teach them. She said in the grand scheme, the number of EC
teachers will not have a great impact on the budget, but receiving a salary increase can make a
big difference in the education EC students deserve and need. She said an EC teacher needs
experienced staff and consistency or every year is a brand new start. She said students are not
getting the education they deserve, and she said a significant increase in pay after continuous
years of service reflecting commitment and dedication will be valued.
Anne Tomalin said she is an ESL teacher in CHCCS. She said she has worked in the
district for 26 years. She said she has witnessed the lack of progress in closing the
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achievement gap, and the school system is in a worse position than ever in this respect. She
echoed others' comments that the most vulnerable students are feeling the worst impacts of the
lack of qualified teachers available to support them. She said If Orange County truly values
equity and supporting most vulnerable, it's time to put money where its mouth is, otherwise
comments about closing the achievement gap is empty noise.
Julie Werry thanked the Commissioners for their leadership. She asked the Board to
fully fund the budget requests for both school districts. She said she has two children attending
CHCCS, is a homeowner, and is also the PTA co-president at Rashkis Elementary School. She
said she and her husband chose to move their family to Chapel Hill in 2020 because of the
public school system. She said the number of people who have made the same decision is
amazing. She said with the growth happening across the state, especially in the RTP area, and
the ability of people to choose where they live given that remote work is here to stay, Orange
County continues to attract new residents due to the school systems' record for excellence. She
said the record is now being taken for granted, and over the past 10 months as PTA co-
president, she has seen the struggles going on in schools. She said Rashkis has operated
short staffed all year long and they are not alone given the record number of vacancies across
the district. She said jobs have remained unfilled due to budget constraints and the heroes left
in the building are asked to do the impossible. She said a secretary position at Rashkis was
posted for $12 an hour, which is less even than the going rate for a babysitter in her
neighborhood. She positions will not be filled at this pay scale, which means people in other
positions will have to pick up the duties. She said she recognizes the Commissioners have a
difficult job and many projects are worthy of funding without enough money to go around. She
thanked the Commissioners for the recommended per pupil increase they will likely support but
said that it is not enough. She said there are a record number of vacancies in the district and
said it is impossible to have excellent schools without the teachers and staff to run them. She
said schools are the bedrock of Orange County and attract an inflow of residents which
improves the tax base. She said schools are the greatest tool to leverage when thinking about
equity in our community. She said the county is not spending what it takes to maintain
excellence.
Cassie Ford thanked the Commissioners for their work in making Orange County a
place so many choose to live and build their families. She said she is the wife of a small
business owner, parent of two children, and PTA council president and strongly recommends
the Board fully fund the CHCCS and OCS budget requests including the expansion budget. She
said after graduating from UNC Chapel Hill, she chose to keep her family in Carrboro due to the
reputation of the public schools. She said this reputation cannot be taken for granted. She said
she was surprised to learn that Orange County allocates a much lower percentage of the
annual budget to education than surrounding counties. She said with the boom in remote work,
people have more choice about where they will live and work. She said if CHCCS and OCS
continue to suffer teacher losses and long stretches with open vacancies, the county will not be
able to continue attracting families and businesses due to its schools' reputations. She said she
recently learned that from the SLP and school psychologist at a CHCCS that they are not able
to fill many positions despite receiving approval to recruit for them. She said the district salaries
are well under the market rate compared to neighboring districts and nationally. She said she
appreciates that the recommended budget includes an increase per student, but it doesn't
address current need of schools. She said the state has mandated, but not funded, reduced
classroom sizes and teacher raises, and the continuation budget simply keeps up with these.
She said without the expansion budget being funded, schools will continue to pay below market
rates, have positions unfilled, understaffed classrooms, and underserved students. She asked
the Board to allocate some of the revenue growth Travis Myren spoke about to fully fund the
CHCCS and OCS budgets including both continuation and expansion budget requests.
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Caroline Wang said she is an 8th grader at Smith Middle School and has been part of
the CHCCS community since kindergarten. She said she and her peers remember and have
been impacted by every teacher they have learned from. She asked the Board to fully fund the
CHCCS budget. She said teachers impact the education of hundreds and even thousands of
students, are incredibly important to the community, and encourage students. She said CHCCS
are below market rate locally and nationally. She said she has seen many teachers work hard
for their students in classrooms and even extracurricular activities, often without extra
compensation. She said many teachers commit years of their time to cultivating minds of
students despite being inadequately compensated. She said it would be unfortunate for Orange
County to lose these dedicated teachers. She asked the Board to put education at the top of
their priorities for current students, teachers, and school systems, as well as those who choose
Orange County as their home. She said schools and teachers are nurturing the minds of the
future contributors of this county, state, country, and world. She said educators pour their
hearts into what they do and that should be reflected in the budget.
Michael Kang said he is a sophomore at East Chapel Hill High School. He asked the
Board to fully fund the CHCCS budget. He shared his experience in Spanish class this year. He
said at the beginning of the year, half of his classroom peers wanted to become fluent in
Spanish and over half wanted to continue their education in SIP Spanish the next year. He said
his Spanish teacher left during the second week of second quarter, so much of the work for the
semester was completion based with few evaluations, and was much easier than he had heard
from upperclassmen. By the beginning of the third quarter, only 3 people in the class wanted to
continue their education in AP Spanish and no one in the class indicated they were fluent
enough to live in a Spanish speaking classroom. He said thankfully a teacher transitioned to his
class in the fourth quarter. He said 3 out of 5 Spanish teachers have left this year and all
Spanish 1 and 2 courses were transitioned to remote learning and they have had 8 teachers so
far. He said this isn't just the Spanish classes that are experiencing a lack of teachers and
turnover. He said he would be better prepared for future Spanish learning if he had a consistent
teacher all year. He said securing better teachers means support for the county to the Orange
County academic community, and full investment is needed to keep the quality of schools so
students don't limit their dreams.
Jason Kary said he has been a resident of Orange County for 18 years. He said he
supports all of the educators in the room and the pay increases they are advocating for. He said
he had to take his daughter out of middle school because her panic attacks were preventing her
from learning. He said the issue is far deeper than teacher compensation and the whole system
needs to be looked at. He encouraged the Board not to approve the 2022-23 budget due to the
broadband plan. He said he lives off of Redgate Rd. and his neighborhood has been left off the
NorthState service map. He said the companies are reporting that his neighborhood has
broadband options, but there is only one option and it is only 4 MBPS. He said NorthState told
his neighborhood they were not part of the contract with Orange County. He said he believes
his neighborhood of 14 households will have to pay around $62,000 as a whole for NorthState
to run fiber to their area, based on the fact the County's $40 million contract covers 9,000
households. He asked the Board not to approve the budget and to help him and his
neighborhood get the broadband they need.
Whitney Robinson said she has a 1st grader at Northside Elementary. She said this is
her first child in the public school system and he started during the pandemic. She said she is
on the School Improvement Team at Northside and it has been eye opening. She said it's hard
to fill vacancies even just for maternity leave. She said she feels the effects of burnout even in
higher education, including emotional burdens, student needs, and having to do catch up. She
said she knows a lot of first grade teachers who are trying to do catch up for students who
started kindergarten during the remote learning year. She said seeing the budget on the school
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improvement team is eye-opening because teachers don't make much money. She said the
budget is strategic and lean and is focused on creating positions that can best care for student
needs. She said she sees the challenges teachers are facing and understands why they
wouldn't continue doing this work. She said she understands how organizations can get into a
death spiral when there is continued understaffing and asking people to do more. She said it's
about investing now vs. letting things spiral into a greater crisis later. She said it was great to
see the budget presentation, but if you average out the proposed per pupil increase
recommended for this year with the lack of an increase the past two years, this increase isn't
that big. She said she would rather the issues be addressed now than have a crisis later.
Molly Beak said she is a teacher at a Title 1 school in Chapel Hill and also has family
members who were educators. She said she loves her job and wouldn't do anything else, but
she sees people in other jobs, administration, decision-makers, etc. throw up their hands and
say there just isn't money, supplies, and resources, while teachers have to go in and face
students every day. She said teachers can't throw up their hands because they have to face the
students every day. She said she understands the Commissioners have to make hard
decisions, but asked them to imagine if they had to walk into a classroom the next day. She
said she only has three students who speak English at home and got 5 new students between
Thanksgiving and Christmas, including 2 from Afghanistan who had been in refugee camps.
She said she didn't throw up her hands, she got to work and all of her students have grown.
She said teachers have to continue to do their job every day no matter what they are given, and
then have to beg for more pay. She said the only time she throws up her hands is when her
own child wants something and she tells him it will have to wait until the end of the month. She
said she loves her job and wants to continue to do it, and asked the Commissioners to imagine
that they have to go into a classroom and tell students why they made the decisions they did.
Hope Love said she is a theater teacher at East Chapel Hill High School, married to a
science teacher, and has a child who attended elementary school in CHCCS. She said she was
going to discuss a metaphor. She said there is a lot of equivocating and debate in her
household. She said she asked her son to do something on Mother's Day and he explained to
her that it wasn't a job for him and it was too hard. She said her husband told their son that his
mother does things he asks her to all the time without explaining how she gets it done and
instead of gifts, she needs his help when she rarely asks. She said educators have asked.
Auburn James said she is a science teacher at East Chapel Hill High School, and it is
her 7t" year teaching. She said her third year of teaching was the best year, which was also
when she started working at East Chapel Hill High School, and felt like she won the lottery
getting to work in CHCCS. She said that this year has been the worst of her career and is
working 3 times harder than any time before to make up for learning loss from last year. She
said she has held over 30 evening virtual office hours for her students to give them extra help
and prepare them for AP exams. She said she can't keep working like this without
appreciation. She said the rate of inflation is causing her grocery bill to go up. She said she
doesn't know if she can afford to be a teacher anymore. She said she doesn't have a spouse's
income and she pays her own mortgage. She said she wants to continue doing her job for her
students and colleagues who deserve her best and asked the Board to fully fund the CHCCS
budget request.
A motion was made by Commissioner McKee and seconded by Commissioner Richards
to close the public hearing.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
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Chair Price said that the Board will continue to work on the budget and there will be
another budget public hearing in June. She said the Board was listening to all of the comments
and appreciates everything they do and thanked the students who spoke for their words.
Commissioner McKee said the fund balance of CHCCS as of the end of December 2021
was $15 million. He said their required fund balance is 5%, or about $3 of $4 million, so there is
$11 million in fund balance that the school board could allocate. He said a 3% pay increase
would cost $1.4 million. He said he appreciates everyone for coming out and for speaking
because the Board is responsible for allocating funds to the school boards, but the CHCCS
school board could do something about this now.
Chair Price asked for the person who spoke about broadband to provide their address.
The Board transitioned to a Work Session.
4. Discussion on the Orange County Food Council and Next Steps
The Board received a progress report from the Orange County Food Council regarding its work
from 2019 through spring 2022 and discussed next steps.
BACKGROUND: The Food Council Coordinator was hired in July 2019. This new Coordinator
position was established through an inter-local agreement process and is jointly funded by
Orange County, Chapel Hill, Hillsborough and Carrboro. The Coordinator is charged with
coordinating the Food Council and helping it achieve its goals. This presentation and
discussion will provide an update of the Coordinator's work and progress since late 2020 and
an overview of the Food Council's plans for the 2022-2023 Fiscal Year.
Ashley Heger, Food Council Coordinator, gave the following PowerPoint presentation:
Slide #1
ode ORANGE COUNTY
* 0 FOOD COUNCIL
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Slide #2
Orange County Food Council
1' bo use are: Coordinator, elected liaii ons, council members,
community partners
Mission: Grow a sustainable and equitable local food system
How we work: Invest in relationships, work with community
experts to identify issues and opportunities, research and develop
solutions, and build bridges between community wisdom and
decision-makers
Ashley Heger said the council includes one paid coordinator, four elected liaisons, a
number of at-large council members, and designated members from Cooperative Extension,
the AG Preservation Board, a food-access practitioner, or someone with an experience or
expertise in food-access to make sure to hold space for people with lived experience. She said
they also have very important community partners and stakeholders that drive the work.
Slide #3
2020 0 - `,'022 Accomplishments & Projects
Our work io 2020 included,..
+ ae;eloped n mcinl equity scoreenrd&report for the countyfood system
• F IWented n faad neeeea report at the County Comutie86MM annual retMM
• Complered an equity aeaes&ment of 2 ao"Ituralprogranse
• Supported the development of the Ornnoe County Blna--FsrmerOnmp
• Basted waeFJ}then monthly ea%dd food system caardinadan cam
• F41cOltnted community feedbneh to emwgency food nssestance prnrnms
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• Community road Aceeea aeaesement
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• Farm„-orlmr Adlrocnc{Network
Ashley Heger said that this is a brief overview of their most important work in 2020 and
projects from 2021 to date. She said that a couple of actionable items came out of the annual
retreat which have since been followed up on.
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Slide #4
Equity Framework (how we work part )
Lessons learned
• It's not just what you do,but how you do it
OperationWiaing equity
• Moving at the speed of treat !relxtionshipa
• Ask:Who makes decisions for whom,and howl
• Shifting power and resources to those most impacted
+ Lived experience = subjeet matter expertise
She said they learned that it is not so much what you do but how you do it that makes
the impact and they have moved away from value statements around equity and environmental
sustainability to operational izing that work. She said they are trying to make it practical and start
dealing with the issues. She noted that lived experience is expertise.
Slide #5
EQUAL€TY J I EQUITY —I� LIRERATIOM
Ashley Heger showed this slide depicting the differences between equality, equity, and
liberation. She said that equality was once the goal, now we have a better understanding of
equity, and can strive for removing the barrier. She said that cultural and political norms change
and it is okay that they do.
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Slide #6
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Ashley Heger said that looking at the ladder, the Food Council still often finds itself in
the tokenism range because they work in a structure that does not allow for full citizen power.
She said this ladder is a description of how decisions are made and access to power. She said
that for anyone on the Board that has been participating in the ONE Orange GARE process,
they are aware they this group is also struggling with how to move away from tokenism to
citizen power within the existing structures.
Slide #7
Community Fond Access Assessment
The what&the how: Final Report will include:
Resign process -6 Ccmmumrty-led analysis of
Timeline budget data
hi-2th" -J� Community experts gaps
* Shifting power analysis
* Centering community
experts -J� Recommendations for decision
makers from the most impacted
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future decisions
Ashley Heger said that when reaching out to community partners, they said they wanted
to hear about what is going on within these institutions. She said that circumstances were more
precarious that originally thought. She said the assessment engaged citizens in the design
process. She said they have been able to compensate the community leaders that provided
insight into the process and work on the research team. She said their guidance and direction is
being used to see how the county invests in ending hunger. She said they have been reviewing
the county's last five fiscal year budgets and have been collecting data on anything directly
related to food access. She said they have been grappling with how to shift power and defer to
those who are directly impacted. She said they are moving from consultation to partnership.
She said they hope that they can come to present at a work session in the next year to provide
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additional information on that work. She said that another group of four community experts go
through a multi-week photovoice project that has led to the collection of very important
information being collected in diary format along with photo and video. She said they are about
to present the budget data they have been collecting to another group of eight community
experts from the most impacted areas in Orange County: the refugee and immigrant, Black,
rural, and Latinx communities. She said they will go through a process of analyzing the budget
data and then conduct a gaps analysis. She said they will create recommendations for the
decision makers in the county to consider.
Slide #8
0 . .cess
Ashley Heger said they took the social determinants of health and turned it into the
social determinants of food access. She said these are the five key areas that were included
when analyzing the budget over the past few years.
Slide #9
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Ashley Heger said this is an example graph they will be sharing. She said that the
multiple category is 2.9%. She said this is the ARPA funding collected in those years.
Chair Price asked Ashley Heger to explain the difference between the slide on the
screen and the one they received in their packet.
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Ashley Heger said that the slide in the packet was the wrong slide and the one on the
screen is correct. She apologized and said not to consider slide #9 in the packet. She said they
created a category called "multiple" to include the Inner Faith Council and others that provide
wraparound services.
Slide #10
Expanding Local Food Markets Pilot Project
At the reconiinen-Oii(w of the chair of the Onmge Couuty Boud of County Cornmis3ioners, the
Foal Counoil anti Cooperative Extension have been exploring options for a pilot program to
expand r=kets for Orange County goawers and increase acaess to lacol foods far reeanal
buyers.
a Stakeholder iutenkievrs
• 18 nwntb pilot pragram
a Support 6-8 growers in an aniline sellimg/mwketing platform to connect to regional
buyers
e Pilot participants will help advise pragram implem mtatian and evaluation
e Data collection and 2-4 staff reports annually
a Intended timeline, July 2022 to December 2023
Ashley Heger said that in Spring 2021, Chair Price recommended that the Food Council
work with Fresh Fire. She said they asked for feedback from stakeholders, including the Black
farmer group they've worked with, and asked them what they think about this. She said that she
has worked with Cooperative Extension to complete those stakeholder interviews. She said
they chose from a wide spectrum of food producers in the county, and they selected a diversity
in product, size, and how long they have been around. She said they said they were already
engaged in wholesale markets or looking to do so. She said that five years ago, the Board had
created a gap fund for farmers, and they thought there would be a line out the door to help get
them certified but farmers in the county were doing direct sales and said there was no desire to
move beyond that. She said that now there has been a switch and there is a higher demand
here for local goods. She said that this pilot program will help small local growers expand into
wholesale. She said they are proposing an 18-month pilot that would start in July. She said the
funding would support eight growers in the county to become able to participate in online
wholesaling. She said this would cutout the middleman and allow more local engagement. She
said they hope they can also supplement the buyers, but they are not quite sure what they
buyer side looks like at this point. She said that the third portion of funding will be for more
frequent and more detailed data on the local food system. She said that the Fresh Fire
specialized in data collection and can do customized reports, help interview, and give them key
information on how program is working or if it is not.
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Slide #11
MOU Renewal
Original MOU was signed iR 2019
Exeeutive Committee Reeommendations for an updated M 0 U
• Remain in effect for 5 years
Update funding percentages with 2020 census data
• Remove the number of councA seats from the MOU
* Include referen-ce to raeial mrork
Ashley Heger provided information on the history of her position and the original MOU.
She said it is an Interlocal agreement between Orange County, Chapel Hill, Hillsborough,
Carrboro. She said it is similarly modeled after the Partnership to End Homelessness. She said
the MOU expired in March 2021 and that the executive committee of Food Council is
recommending it be renewed. She said that a redlined version of the new MOU will be provided
in the next couple of weeks.
Slide #12
Qw-scions & Discussion
Ashley Leger
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Commissioner Richards asked when the community assessment final report would be
done.
Ashley Heger said it should be provided to the Board in sometime in July or August. She
said the community consultations will end in May and afterwards they will just be writing it.
Commissioner Richards asked if it will be when they come back from break.
Ashley Heger joked that the Commissioners will not be overwhelmed at all when they
come back from break. when the pilot project will be started.
Commissioner Richards asked if the pilot project will end in June.
Ashley Heger said the Expanding Local Markets pilot will likely come back as a budget
amendment in June but said they would need to confirm this with Travis Myren. She said this
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would hopefully allow it to start in July. She said the reason is they would like to cover two
growing seasons and run it for 18 months. She said they would cover half of one growing
season in the first phase and then a full growing season in the next.
Commissioner Richards asked if the assessment would be after the pilot project.
Ashley Heger said they are two completely different projects. She said the assessment
will be available to the Commissioners upon their return from break and at that same time, they
hope to be at the beginning of the pilot program.
Commissioner Richards said in the summary for work plan, it would be helpful to show
the amount things increased.
Ashley Heger said they can certainly put that in.
Commissioner McKee asked what the cost is for the pilot program.
Ashley Heger said $25,000 over 18 months.
Commissioner McKee asked if that would support six growers.
Ashley Heger said they hope to support eight growers and between 1 and 3 regional
buyers. She said the remaining amount would go to data collection efforts.
Commissioner McKee asked how many growers there are in Orange County.
Ashley Heger said she does not have that number, but this pilot program would be for
growers with consumer ready products. She said this will not involve those that are producing
meat.
Commissioner McKee asked if it would include growers of corn or butter beans because
that is crucial for him to know. He asked how many growers this program has made contact
with.
Ashley Heger said she feels like she has received this question a few times and that she
is only one person and must rely on a network of partnerships because one person can only do
so much. She said she utilizes partnerships with community organizations, such as the Ag
Preservation Board, Cooperative Extension, and Breeze Farm. She said that she wants
Commissioner McKee to know that if he ever has any farmer, or group of farmers, that he
would like her to make contact with, she will show up for that. She said there is no master
contact list in the county for farmers.
Commissioner McKee said there is a list for certain products.
Ashely Heger said that is correct but Cooperative Extension maintains that and they will
not share it unless she has a very specific reason for needing it because the farmers on the list
have requested not to be contacted.
Commissioner McKee said that is a problem she is going to have and that he is a retired
farmer that wholesaled his product. He said it was not food, but it was a farm product. He said it
is an extraordinarily difficult market to break into. He said that $25,000 will not scratch the
surface of the need. He said that his comments are not a direct attack on Ashley Heger or of
the Council but that he has not ever thought this program would put food on the table and he is
still of that mind. He said that farmers markets exist at several locations now in the county. He
said other farmers are involved in direct marketing or selling directly from their farms. He said
he fails to understand what this program is trying to do and where it is going. He said he has
real issues spending as much time and effort on this and he does not know where this is going.
He said there is massive hunger in areas of the county, but this is not being addressed. He said
he does not want to look at data points, but wants to see providing food. He said there are other
organizations in the county that are providing food directly to people.
Ashley Heger said that is correct and that it is her understanding that she was not hired,
nor was the coordinator position designed, to be a direct service but rather to coordinate
systems-based issues. She said for example if they saw the email that she forwarded them
from Commissioner Bedford, it is her job to stay in the know of what is happening across the
region as well as coordinate direct action to the most impacted communities.
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Commissioner McKee said he understood.
Chair Price said she was also interested in seeing food on the table and when she was
contacted by the co-chairs of the fresh buyers, that their data is about getting farmers in touch
with consumers so they can get the food on the table that people actually want rather than just
handing people a bag of food. She said that data will help them go from a philosophy to more of
practical measures.
Ashley Heger said this would include costs so they would get feedback from the buyers
and the sellers of if this makes economic sense. She said the question that could be answered
is can someone grow lettuce in Orange County, then sell it to Weaver Street Market, and that
be an affordable and accessible good in that space.
Commissioner McKee said the farmers do not need that. He said they are educated and
capable of figuring out their own numbers. He said that he is not intending to hound her over
this and that he does not mean to. He said that whatever the county does for food access, they
need to be dealing with food access. He said he does not understand how this organization
helps the farmers and those who have a lack of nourishing food. He said he sees that work is
being done, but he does not understand how this is better than a facility that would collect
aggregated product. He said that there is no way a small farmer in Orange County can supply
the theoretical one hundred boxes of lettuce on their own.
Ashely Heger said there is an issue with aggregation.
Commissioner McKee said he thinks there is a regional collection facility in Durham
County. He said he does not know how the logistics of putting UNC Hospitals in touch with local
farmers is going to work and that it can be guaranteed. He said he thinks the effort does not
seem to help the farmer make contact with the people that they need to sell to. He said when
he was a farmer, he would have to do the legwork to convince them that they needed to buy
from him. He said that help would be fine, but have they not been dealing with this for 5 or 6
years.
Ashley Heger said they have only been dealing with her since 2019.
Commissioner McKee said they are still at the 30,000-foot level.
Ashley Heger said that Cooperative Extension, the Ag Preservation Board, and
Economic Development that could be grappling with the larger issues he is talking about. She
said that her job as coordinator is to examine those that have been most impacted by the
systemic racism in our food system and how does she work with them to provide a bridge into
this institution while also building out the capacity of the institution. She said coming back to
the idea of moving at the urgency of those most impacted, she feels that it should not be her
deciding what farmers feel is and is not urgent. She said that the design of this particular pilot
program is to work with a very small group of growers to understand the impacts of them
getting the kind of support that Commissioner McKee is talking about and to identify the gaps.
She said some the already anecdotally know. She said that most farmers cannot afford a
$30,000 refrigerated truck and there is no aggregation center in the county. She said that the
aggregation center in Durham will only take GAP certified products and there is only one GAP
Certified farmer in the county. She said that a number of farmers interviewed for pilots are
already doing this work together. She said there is one farm that has already helped incubate
two additional farms and they also have a contract with Weaver Street Market to grow and sell
celery. She said that instead of taking a $100 thousand plus contract for himself, he split it
between him and two other farms. She said that farmers, as Commissioner McKee knows
firsthand, know it takes a community, a network and that they are very wise and very
experienced. She said that it is not her directing people what to do, but rather asking for input
from farmers about what is working well and what supports they need. She said that the pilot
project will allow farmers to benchmark and lead the direction to say what is and is not working.
She said they will have regular meetings with the cohort and the data from Fresh Buyer to
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inform the work. She said she hears Commissioner McKee's frustration, does not take it
personally, and knows there are always more farmers to reach.
Commissioner McKee said the county is already working through this through economic
development loans and grants and the farmers using Breeze Farm.
Ashley Heger said those farmers were interviewed and they said they could use help in
bridging the gap between incubator farm and wholesaling.
Commissioner Bedford asked when the MOU will come back to the Board.
Ashley Heger said hopefully very soon. She said this is an update and that she has to
work with the Attorney's Office to finalize the MOU and that the Board can see the redlined
version.
Commissioner Bedford said the Climate Reorganization Subcommittee reviewed the
MOU and Council Member Slade said the Food Council members choose their own members.
She asked who approves their bylaws. She said that she does not want to create a group that
the Board has no control over.
Ashley Heger said this is the tricky part of embracing relationships and not seeing that
as some form of nepotism or playing favorites. She said she is open to as much transparency
as possible. She said that she can walk them through how they became a hybrid group of the
county. She said in 2019 there was a desire that the Food Council remain an autonomous body
that she would help coordinate and they could engage in state level advocacy work. She said
now they are not getting close to that type of work. She said if there is a group, like the NC
Food System Advocacy Coalition, then they can participate in it. She said they are not a formal
advisory board and that one of the reasons is the community said they have disengaged from
participating in most of these advisory boards because we see no return and is often a space
that is not designed for us. She said when original legal agreement came through, it was
decided that the executive committee would have all elected official liaisons and that committee
would oversee all final decisions. She said the way members are selected is through a
campaign for new members. She said the application asks for information about where people
live, work, and how much money they generate. She said they want that information to know if
the council is representative of the community and every part of the food system. She said the
executive committee make the final decision after reviewing the applications. She said that
probably feels informal because that is different than how other advisory boards work in the
county.
Commissioner Bedford asked for Ashley Heger to provide demographic information on
the board.
Ashley Heger said up until 2020 they were a majority non-white council. She said age
ranges from eighteen and beyond. She said that gender-wise, it is heavily female. She said she
would be happy to share trends overtime.
Commissioner Greene said she is the elected liaison to the Food Council and has been
involved in it since the beginning. She said if the Board is going to say the Council is not
working because they are not putting food on tables then that is not going to get anywhere
because that is not the purpose of the Food Council and that has never been the purpose. She
said that the purpose of the Food Council is to work within and strengthen the food system in
Orange County. She said this work is to help farmers that are already mission driven to be a
networking farmers and to help them take advantage of changes that the Council can bring to
the system. She said that they can use the help of the Council to gain access to places that
they had not before. She said they saw during COVID what happens when the food distribution
system breaks. She said that there was milk being destroyed in Midwest because they had put
it in containers for school children and they did not have the big containers to send it to the
grocery store and they found they could not switch on a dime and had to dump the milk down
drains. She said that now there is a greater awareness of the need and interest in making local
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food production and distribution system more robust. She said the comparison is to the
Partnership to End Homelessness. She said the Climate Council never had an MOU to begin
with. She said that this process is innovative and there is a lot of control from the executive
committee. She said that it has a unique mission and unique history.
Ashley Heger said it was modeled after the Partnership to End Homelessness. She said
that is why the executive committee has so much power and that design was also what the
citizen group gave up to gain more structure, resources and support. She said they still wanted
to maintain the connection to values and communities they work with.
Commissioner Fowler asked how the chair and co-chairs are elected and how long their
terms are.
Ashley Heger said there is a process every 1-3 years where people nominate
themselves or others to become co-chairs on the Food Council. She said the Food Council
votes. She said that the co-chairs choose the duration. She said that comes back to the
community they work with and that there are no paid positions on the Council, and this is
essentially free work provided by the members. She said who has the privilege to volunteer
their time. She said they are still grappling with available free time. She listed the co-chairs
since 2020 and said they were all nominated and elected by their peers and get to decide if
they serve a 1-3-year term. She said they will be updating bylaws at June meeting and will
provide to the Board.
Commissioner Fowler asked why 5 years for the MOU.
Commissioner Greene said the model from the Partnership is 5 years.
Ashley Heger said Chapel Hill wanted 2 years in 2019 but all other entities agreed with
five.
Commissioner Fowler asked if this was something that is needed forever, or if there
would be an endpoint to the work.
Ashley Heger said she would love to work herself out of this job. She said that she
thinks it will be needed longer than she hopes. She said that there are other models besides a
Food Council Coordinator and it can be measured to see what is working. She said that
Durham created a food access coordinator in Cooperative Extension. She said they are only
dealing with access, not system-wide organizing or dealing with farmers. She said that she
works closely with them and has drawn them into the TJCOG space because you can't
separate those issues. She said that from the beginning, it has been said that housing cannot
be left out of food access. She said that it is not just one coordinator's work. She said that the
work could be disbursed because there is more work than one person can actually do. She said
that more strategic alignment across all departments would likely be beneficial.
Commissioner Fowler said that is true for a lot of the different work the county is doing
and that most of them have some overlap. She said that is kind of the point — do we continue to
make special projects or do we start working to bridge the overlap.
Commissioner Hamilton said it is hard in this current iteration to be clear what the
targets are and that it is too much. She said there is not the ability to be effective by getting the
data and homing in on the work. She said she is concerned about the effectiveness and how it
is currently designed. She said she wants to see the data to see what would make sense.
Ashley Heger said the coordinator position was originally created to coordinate
community spaces to align with the Board's social justice goals. She said she could help
convene the impacted community members and bring that back to the Board. She said that at
one time she was once coordinating a food access group and a food waste group and then they
cut back and decided to only focus on the local food economy and food access. She said that
nationally, as well as in other countries, all are grappling with what the correct metrics are. She
said it is about capacity building within the organization. She said that data is important but is a
flattened piece of information and the question is how to move beyond simplified data while also
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embracing that there is knowledge and wisdom beyond it. She said Commissioner Richards
and Commissioner Greene came with her to visit a couple of farms and hopefully can do more
of that. She said that they can be doing better by doing a local ag census that is independent of
USDA.
Chair Price asked how many people are on the entire council.
Ashley Heger said sixteen, but five are open seats. She said they are requesting to have
stipends to grapple with the issue of free work because they do not want to create a Council
that is majority filled with those that have privilege and access.
Chair Price clarified that the co-chairs are not elected representatives.
Ashley Heger said that is correct.
Chair Price said she was skeptical in 2018 but sees that this is getting somewhere now.
She said that she can see the need. She said she hopes the pilot works and that Ashley Heger
has actually brought the Food Council a long way. She asked about the proposed 5 years for
the MOU. She said she hopes it is five years. She said she does not think Ashley will work
herself out of this job because the need will be continuous and ever evolving. She said she is
thinking about three years instead of five.
Commissioner McKee asked if she was advocating for a separate ag center from USDA
and Extension.
Ashley Heger said she said a separate census. She said that the USDA does one every
seven years and that she wants to do one locally. She said they have talked about doing one
multiple times but they always come back to the same issue —who do we talk to, what data are
we collecting. She said that if that does not change and if they only get input from those already
connected then the data will be there but how good will it be. She said that is why they decided
to start small and a way directly connected to those on the ground. She said that hopefully this
pilot project could lead to a local census.
Commissioner Bedford said she loves the idea of a census. She said that she would like
more information, or numbers, because she is not clear on what marginalized communities she
is talking about. She said more numerics help her. She said that she thinks the Board needs
better ways to share information because they are all liaisons to committees, but they do not
really share any of that information with the full Board. She asked the Board to think about it
because there has to be a better way.
Chair Price said they all can give reports at the beginning of meetings, but she
understands that is not likely enough. She said even though the Board is looking at what is
happening now, the project can also help support new farmers if they know there is a place for
them. She said this could encourage new and younger farmers to start.
Ashley Heger said it would be a launching pad.
Chair Price said that she has talked to some of the new Black farmers, and they are
excited to get into Weaver Street but that is not insurance and they would be happy to get
more.
Ashley Heger said that Fresh Fire works with restaurants, stores, and institutions with
buyers spanning from US Foods to Weaver Street.
Commissioner Greene said that Breeze Farm moved from the model of accepting brand
new farmers, so that left a gap there. She said this highlights the importance of working with a
more informal network.
Ashley Heger said it will always be "both and." She said she fully hears the criticisms
and understands because they really are flying the plane and building it at the same time with
this work. She said moving toward equity is challenging.
Chair Price said not to think about them as criticisms but rather comments.
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5. Additional Discussion on Regulation of Large Gatherings
The Board discussed the regulation of large gatherings in Orange County.
BACKGROUND: The Board of Commissioners requested information on possible options for
the County to potentially regulate protests or large gatherings in Orange County. The Board
initially received information on this subject at its March 10, 2022 work session. At that work
session, the Board discussed many aspects of this type of regulation including prohibiting large
gatherings on certain public-school properties. The attachments include a legal overview of the
regulation of protests and gatherings that was provided at the work session, some relevant
state statutes, and a draft County ordinance.
The draft ordinance generally:
• Covers parades and picketing.
• Establishes requirements for the content of permit applications and notice and assigns
responsibility for oversight of the ordinance to the Clerk to the Board in consultation with
the Sheriff.
• Provides for an appeal to the County Manager if a permit application is denied.
• Establishes standards of conduct for participants and organizers of Parades and
Picketing.
• Establishes the locations at and upon which Parades and Picketing may occur. Not all
county property is what's known as a public forum and so limits access to only certain
county properties.
• Prohibits Parades and Picketing within five hundred feet of school property and
playgrounds; and
• Declares violations to be subject to a $500 fine and equitable relief.
John Roberts said they had previously talked about this in March. He said that sample
ordinals were presented at that time and that he has drafted an ordinance based on Wake
County's but is different because it has portions dealing with schools that this Board wants
included. He said that this ordinance also includes parades and picketing. He said that those
usually happen in city jurisdiction, but this will be county jurisdiction. He said that this also
includes application information for a parade and that the Clerk's office has graciously
volunteered to be the application director and to hand out permits. He said there is not an
application or permit process for picketing, but it would require notice. He said the Clerk would
then consult with the Sheriff. He said that if there is a permit denied there is an appeal process.
He said that it establishes standards of conduct for those participating in picketing. He said that
it will have designated locations for picketing if the Board so chooses to keep those included.
He said that it would be up to the Board to determine what is considered public forum. He said
that it prohibits parades or picketing within five hundred feet of a school playground even on
private property. He said he specifically did not put in misdemeanor provisions because the
General Assembly made it very difficult to get a conviction of a local ordinance misdemeanor.
Chair Price said the Efland Christmas Parade is in the county.
Commissioner McKee said there are a few and asked if those would require a permit.
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John Roberts said if it is on a state-maintained highway, the permit would not be
applicable here.
Commissioner Greene she understands where it is not applicable and asked what
streets are left.
John Roberts said the county does not control roads in the county's jurisdiction. He said
he did not see any that would apply, currently. He said if the county is temporarily in control of
the road, he really is not sure. He said that the ordinance does not allow the impediment of
traffic as it is written and does not apply to vehicular roadways.
Commissioner McKee asked if including parade language is a solution looking for a
problem.
John Roberts said it is and he is not going to recommend the Board adopt parade
language.
Commissioner McKee asked what authority or justification there is for five hundred feet.
John Roberts said that is for the Board's discussion and five hundred feet is just a
number at this point. He said that he understood there was concern that people were too close
to school property, students, and staff, so the number is up for Board consideration.
Commissioner McKee asked if the protestors were actually on school property during
the incident in question.
John Roberts said he does not know what incident gave rise to this.
Commissioner McKee said it was a Board of Education meeting.
Chair Price said there was a football game at Orange High and there were board
members and parents who were concerned. She said it was hard to determine where they
were.
Commissioner McKee asked of if they were on public or private property.
Chair Price said she understood that they were in the road.
Commissioner McKee said that football stadium is maybe 1,000 feet from the roadway.
He said that there are people on the street in Hillsborough and he does not see the difference.
He said he wants to make sure they get this right. He said that it is the same with parades. He
said he wants to make sure he knows why they are picking 500 feet. He said that with
restricting the public right of way or private property he is concerned about how this affects free
speech.
Chair Price said if someone wants to have a parade who currently issues a permit.
John Roberts said currently there is no permit issued, but the Clerk would do it going
forward.
Chair Price asked if Churton Street is a state road.
John Roberts said Churton Street is a state road but is within the Town's jurisdiction.
Chair Price asked about Orange High School Road.
John Roberts said it is a state road.
Chair Price said the Town of Hillsborough authorizes parades on Churton Street even
though it is a state road.
Commissioner Richards asked if there is a way to say, "...during school activities."
John Roberts said it could be limited to school hours, school activities, or anywhere a
property is holding a school athletic event.
Commissioner Hamilton said she made this petition as an attempt to protect children.
She said that children can be harmed with speech and if they feel unsafe in school then they
will not learn. She asked if the activity chairperson is relevant to picketing and parades.
John Roberts said yes.
Commissioner Hamilton asked if county owned property includes schools.
John Roberts said some schools are owned by the county and would apply to them.
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Commissioner Bedford said for Carrboro High School, the county has part ownership so
they could get the sales tax.
Commissioner Fowler asked about 15 feet between picketers and asked if that is what
other counties have used.
John Roberts said he thinks that part came from Wake County, and it is all for Board
discussion and decision.
Commissioner Fowler said it seems like a large amount of space.
Chair Price asked if the section on private property for gathering, does that mean that
the county can control what is happening on private property.
John Roberts said there is case law to support that if private property is regularly used
for public purposes.
Commissioner Bedford said she would like some input from the Sheriff on what is
realistic for the deputies to enforce. She said there are some Confederate Flag waivers and
asked if the Sheriff was consulted.
John Roberts said he ran it by the Sheriff who said it looked good and he would enforce
it, he just did not want to be the permit issuer.
Commissioner Greene said she would like to remove the parade references. She said it
would be helpful if the Sheriff can attend the next Board discussion of this item.
Commissioner McKee asked if anyone else had an issue with the $500 fine. He asked if
the fine would that apply to multiple people within the same event.
John Roberts said yes.
Commissioner McKee asked how that was not suppression of free speech.
John Roberts said their free speech is not suppressed if they are abiding by the terms of
the ordinance.
Commissioner McKee said he has a hard time imagining a picket being allowed at the
Orange High School with this ordinance. He asked if he stands at Orange High School Road
holding a sign that someone does not agree with, and they call the Sheriff since he would be
within five hundred feet of the school.
John Roberts said that right now that person could be removed if they were obstructing
traffic.
Commissioner McKee said that he is not talking about being in the roadway.
John Roberts it would be in violation if he is within five hundred feet of the school the
way it is drafted but the Board can choose any distance, they deem appropriate.
Commissioner McKee said that would impede his free speech.
John Roberts said free speech is not unlimited.
Commissioner McKee said he understands but that he does not want to tighten this
down to where someone would feel that they cannot express their opinion. He said that short of
someone making physical moves he does not feel threatened by someone standing with a sign
or yelling their opinion out. He said everyone sees the situation differently, but he wants people
to be able to express their opinion because that is the bedrock of this country.
Commissioner Hamilton said there are benefits to having an ordinance to regulate close
to the schools. She said if there are two groups with opposing views, demonstrating at the
same place and at the same time, this ordinance would give law enforcement the heads up that
they would be there and would also allow for planning to make sure that the opposing groups
were far enough apart from one another. She said that will help create a systematic response
and decrease chance that there would be some unhelpful interactions and be sure that both
sides can get their point of view across. She said that she wants free speech but not in a way
that harms children. She said this helps them know when things are happening, provides rules
for the demonstrators, and helps other people know what to do if there is a need to call law
enforcement.
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Commissioner Richards said she remembers the messages the Board received from
students and parents and teachers, and they said they felt unsafe, devalued, and threatened by
the comments and the signs. She said they have a responsibility to provide a safe learning
environment for the students and that is what she wants to make sure they protect that. She
said that is the balance that is needed and asked how they create rules around that. She said
that she still goes back to those comments and wonders if there is a way to make this when
students are around.
Chair Price said having a safe learning environment is core to a sound basic education.
She said the concern for her and where this originated was around the schools and how to
address this so that kids could come to school without being intimidated. She said she is a
proponent of free speech, but in a more appropriate location than in a place where children are
impacted. She said she likes the five hundred feet from a school but maybe the distance could
be 1,000 feet.
Commissioner Richards said to go that far, the ordinance needs to cover all protests.
She said they have gotten complaints about one side being treated one way. She said the
section about schools should just be more specific.
Commissioner Greene said she is thinking of how to separate a parade from picketing.
She said if there is a parade, there is an organizer, but that is not always true for picketing. She
asked if this would require a permit for picketing.
John Roberts said no permits are required for picketing, but notice is required.
Commissioner Greene asked who would give the notice.
John Roberts said the event organizer, but that he will confirm that.
Commissioner Greene said pickets are by nature often spontaneous and sometimes do
not have an organizer or the chance to provide notice. She said she trying to figure out how this
would work so that law enforcement has advance notice of the events, and everyone can know
the rules.
Commissioner Hamilton said she is wondering about the process and asked how the
process works leading up to adoption. She said it seems more input is needed from the Sheriff
and the schools.
John Roberts said this does not require a public hearing. He said that the Board will
discuss it at work sessions, then discuss it at a business meeting, where the public can
comment, and then the ordinance can be adopted that night or a different night. He said that if
adopted, this would be a county ordinance and only applicable to areas in the county's
jurisdiction.
Commissioner McKee said he is fine with five hundred feet within schools and
playgrounds. He said he does have issues with the $500 fine and the language around private
property.
Chair Price asked about school property that is owned by the county but outside of the
jurisdiction.
John Roberts said county ordinances apply to county-owned property.
Chair Price asked about Central Elementary School.
John Roberts said that if the county has an ownership interest in Central Elementary this
would apply. He said that River Park is in Hillsborough town limits, and this would not apply
there.
Chair Price said she thinks they have ownership interest in Carrboro High School.
Commissioner Bedford said she thinks they have a 20-year ownership interest and that
the school is not that old yet. She asked if there was consensus about removing the parade
portion.
Chair Price said yes, and they have consensus with $500 feet. She asked that the draft
be sent to Sheriff Blackwood for review.
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Commissioner Greene said she would like to have another work session with the Sheriff
present.
Chair Price said she agrees.
Commissioner Hamilton suggested inviting school staff and the school board to speak
as well.
6. Agricultural Preservation Board —Appointment Discussion
The board discussed appointments to the Agricultural Preservation Board.
BACKGROUND: The Agricultural Preservation Board is charged to promote the economic and
cultural importance of agriculture in the County, and to encourage voluntary preservation and
protection of farmland for future production.
The Board of County Commissioners appoints all 15 members, including eight (8) At-Large
members, and one (1) member from each of the seven (7) Agricultural Districts in the County.
The following individuals are recommended for Board consideration:
NAME POSITION TYPE OF EXPIRATION
DESCRIPTION APPOINTMENT DATE
TERM
Jeff Sykes At-Large Second Full Term 06/30/2025
Beth Myers At-Large Second Full Term 06/30/2025
Michael Cane Creek/Buckhorn Second Full Term 06/30/2025
McPherson Voluntary Agricultural
District
If the individuals listed above are appointed, the following vacancy remains:
POSITION EXPIRATION VACANCY INFORMATION
DESIGNATION DATE
Cedar Grove 06/30/2023 Vacant since 11/20/2020
Voluntary
Agricultural District
Tara May introduced the item.
The Board agreed by consensus on the recommended applicants.
Commissioner Bedford asked about the vacancy on the Cedar Grove position.
Tara May said this board has very specific seats and the Cedar Grove position requires
a person that is the owner of a qualifying farm enrolled in voluntary agricultural district and the
farm has to be located within the boundary of the Cedar Grove voluntary agricultural district.
She said since it is so specific the board has had a hard time finding someone who qualifies to
apply but recruitment is ongoing.
Chair Price said it became vacant during the pandemic and now that people are getting
out and talking to one another there might be more opportunity.
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7. Animal Services Advisory Board —Appointments Discussion
The board discussed an appointment to the Animal Services Advisory Board.
BACKGROUND: The charge of the Animal Services Advisory Board is to advise the Board of
County Commissioners on matters of concern regarding animal issues and animals services in
Orange County and to work with the Animal Services Director (or designee) on various policy
concerns and issues regarding County animal services.
The Board of County Commissioners appoints all thirteen (13) members with representation
from various related fields and municipalities.
The following individual is recommended for Board consideration:
NAME POSITION TYPE OF EXPIRATION
DESCRIPTION APPOINTMENT DATE
TERM
Mark J. Town of Hillsborough First Full Term 06/30/2024
Solomon
If the individual listed above is appointed, the following vacancies remain:
POSITION EXPIRATION VACANCY INFORMATION
DESIGNATION DATE
Town of Carrboro 06/30/2024 Vacant since 06/30/2021
Town of Chapel 06/30/2024 Vacant since 06/30/2021
Hill
Animal 06/30/2023 Vacant since 04/20/2022
Welfare/Animal
Advocacy
Owner/Manager 06/30/2023 Vacant since 01/05/2022
Retail Pet Services
Tara May introduced the item. She described the vacancies. She said there are no
applicants for the Town of Carrboro seat or the Owner/Manager Retail Pet Services. She said
that Denise Dolin would be eligible for Town of Chapel Hill seat. She said that depending on the
Board's opinion there could be people eligible for the Animal Welfare/Animal Advocacy seat.
She said that Lee Hethcox, Denise Dooland, and Jennifer Stout may be eligible for that seat.
Commissioner Greene asked about Celie Richardson for the Town of Chapel Hill seat.
Tara May apologized for not including her and said that was unintentional when she was
reading the applicant names.
Chair Price asked about Mark Solomon for the Town of Hillsborough seat. The Board
agreed by consensus to appoint Mark Solomon to the seat.
Commissioner Greene nominated Celie Richardson for the Town of Chapel Hill seat.
The Board agreed by consensus to appoint Celie Richardson to the seat.
Commissioner Fowler asked about Denise Dooland and Lee Hethcox.
Commissioner Bedford said Denise Dooland is a social worker and loves animals and
had previously volunteered with animal services.
Tara May said that Celie Richardson lives in the ETJ rather than the Town limits and
that makes them ineligible for the Town of Chapel Hill seat.
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Chair Price said Denise Dooland for Town of Chapel Hill seat. The Board agreed by
consensus to appoint Denise Dooland to the seat.
Chair Price asked if Celie Richardson is eligible for the Animal Welfare seat.
Tara May said for the Animal Welfare and advocacy seat it requires a person who has
experience in rescue work, service, advocacy, and support, volunteerism in animal shelter.
Commissioner Fowler reviewed Denise Dooland's qualifications.
Commissioner Bedford asked about Cynthia Stubbs and said she is a retired vet and a
farmer.
Chair Price said they could wait if necessary.
Commissioner Fowler suggested Lee Hethcox for the animal advocacy seat. The Board
agreed by consensus to appoint Lee Hethcox to the seat.
8. Arts Commission —Appointments Discussion
The board discussed an appointment to the Arts Commission.
BACKGROUND: The Arts Commission recommends strategies to promote the artistic and
cultural growth of Orange County, advises the Board of Commissioners on matters involving the
arts, and acts as the granting panel for funding programs available to individual artists and non-
profit groups sponsoring arts projects in Orange County.
The Board of County Commissioners appoints all fifteen (15) At-Large members.
The following individual is recommended for Board consideration:
NAME POSITION TYPE OF EXPIRATION
DESCRIPTION APPOINTMENT DATE
TERM
Victoria E. UNC Student One Year Term 06/30/2023
Danielik Representative
If the individual listed above is appointed, no vacancies remain.
Tara May introduced the item.
The Board agreed by consensus on the recommended applicant.
9. Economic Development Advisory Board —Appointments Discussion
The board discussed an appointment to the Economic Development Advisory Board.
BACKGROUND: The Economic Development Advisory Board works cohesively with the
County's Economic Development staff and other economic development partners to position
Orange County as a competitive location for business opportunities.
The Board of County Commissioners appoints all ten (10) members, with representation from
various fields.
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The following individual is presented for Board consideration:
NAME POSITION TYPE OF EXPIRATION
DESCRIPTION APPOINTMENT DATE
TERM
Hasan A. Core Business First Full Term 06/30/2025
Abdullah Community
If the individual listed above is appointed, no vacancies remain.
Tara May introduced the item.
The Board agreed by consensus to reappoint Hasan Abdullah.
10. Orange County Board of Adjustment—Appointments Discussion
The board discussed appointments to the Orange County Board of Adjustment.
BACKGROUND: The Board of Adjustment hears and decides on variance applications,
appeals submitted related to official decisions/determinations made by the Planning Director,
reviews and takes action on Class B Special Use Permit applications, as well as matters
required to pass by the Unified Development Ordinance.
The Board of County Commissioners appoints all seven (7) members. The Board of Adjustment
does not make recommendations.
The following individuals are presented for Board consideration:
NAME POSITION TYPE OF EXPIRATION
DESCRIPTION APPOINTMENT DATE
TERM
Leon Meyers At-Large First Full Term 06/30/2025
(re-appointment)
Nathan Alternate First Full Term 06/30/2025
Robinson (re-appointment)
If the individuals listed above are appointed, no vacancies remain.
Tara May introduced the item and reviewed the recommended individuals.
The Board agreed by consensus to reappoint Leon Meyers.
Tara May said that earlier in the day she learned that the Board of Adjustment is having
difficulty getting the full five-member board present. She said that they have requested to move
Nathan Robinson and Beth Bronson from the alternate positions to regular member seats on
the Board of Adjustment. She said they also ask that the applicants be appointed to the
alternate seats. Board agreed by consensus on the proposal.
The Board considered appointing two alternates to the Board of Adjustment. They
agreed by consensus on Adam Beeman and Roderick Jones.
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11. Orange County Parks and Recreation Council —Appointments Discussion
The board discussed an appointment to the Orange County Parks and Recreation Council.
BACKGROUND: The Orange County Parks and Recreation Council consults with and advises
the Department of Environment, Agriculture, Parks and Recreation, and the Board of County
Commissioners on matters affecting parks planning, development and operation; recreation
facilities, policies and programs; and public trails and open space.
The Board of County Commissioners appoints all twelve members with representatives from
each of the county's townships plus its municipalities.
The following individual is recommended for Board consideration:
NAME POSITION DESCRIPTION TYPE OF EXPIRATION
APPOINTMENT DATE
TERM
Roderick Hillsborough Town Limits Partial Term 09/30/2022
Jones
If the individual listed above is appointed, the following vacancy remains:
POSITION EXPIRATION VACANCY INFORMATION
DESIGNATION DATE
Chapel Hill 03/31/2023 Vacant since 10/13/2021.
Township
Tara May introduced the item.
The Board agreed by consensus on the recommended applicant.
12. Orange County Planning Board —Appointment Discussion
The board discussed an appointment to the Orange County Planning Board.
BACKGROUND: The Planning Board studies Orange County and surrounding areas to
determine objectives in the development of the County. It prepares and recommends plans to
achieve that development, including the suggesting of policies, ordinances, and procedures. It
reviews development applications and makes recommendations to the Board of
Commissioners.
The Board of County Commissioners appoints all twelve (12) members. The Planning Board
does not make recommendations.
The following position is available for Board consideration:
NAME POSITION TYPE OF EXPIRATION
DESCRIPTION APPOINTMENT DATE
TERM
BOCC Bingham Township Partial Term 03/31/2024
Appointee
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If the position listed above is filled, no vacancies remain.
Tara May introduced the item. She said two applicants, Stephen Kaufman and Nathan
Robinson, would qualify for the vacancy.
Chair Price recommended Stephen Kaufman.
The Board agreed by consensus on Stephen Kaufman.
13. Adjourn
A motion was made by Commissioner McKee and seconded by Commissioner Fowler to
adjourn the meeting at 10:27 p.m.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
Renee Price, Chair
Recorded by Tara May, Deputy Clerk to the Board
Submitted for approval by Laura Jensen, Clerk to the Board.