HomeMy WebLinkAboutASAB Meeting Summary 08182021 Orange County Animal Services
1601 Eubanks Road, Chapel Hill, NC 27516
919-942-PETS (7387)
ANIMAL SERVICES ADVISORY BOARD (ASAB)
6:30 to 8:00 p.m.
Wednesday, August 18, 2021
Virtual Meeting Summary
MEMBERS PRESENT: Edmund Tiryakian (Chair), Bryan Stuart (Vice Chair), Lori
Gershon (Secretary), Lucia Welborne, Brenda Scott, Lee Pickett, Sunita Driehuys, Allan Polak,
Meggie Romick, Dawn Roberts (arrived late)
ABSENT: Susan Spinks
STAFF PRESENT: Dr. Sandra Strong (Animal Services Director), Rachel Plast
(Administrative Assistant)
PUBLIC PRESENT: Paula Greeno (not for a particular agenda item)
Call to order: 6:34 p.m.
Virtual meeting voting guidelines: Bryan Stuart, ASAB Vice-Chair
Review and adoption of the agenda:
- No changes or objections
Vote (Motion/2-d)
Ed Tiryakian Y
Bryan Stuart Y 2id
Lee Pickett Y
Lucia Welborne Y
Sunita Driehuys Motion (Y)
Dawn Roberts Not present for vote
Meggie Romick Y
Allan Polak Y
Susan Spinks Absent
Brenda Scott Y
Lori Gershon Y
Review and approval of June 2021 meeting summary
Ed proposed changes to the following
Second Chance Committee: Ed Tiryakian offers to chair the committee
o Lee Pickett points out since this was not done at last meeting, not an appropriate
amendment/correction
- Motion to adopt the minutes with the following corrections;
o Minutes refer to Brenda Scott as Brenda Smith. The correct name should be Brenda
Scott.
o Lucia Welborne was also present at the June meeting
Vote (Motion/2.d)
Ed Tiryakian Y (2"d)
Bryan Stuart Y
Lee Pickett Motion (Y)
Lucia Welborne Y
Sunita Driehuys Y
Dawn Roberts Y
Meggie Romick Y
Allan Polak Y
Susan Spinks Absent
Brenda Scott Y
Lori Gershon Y
Review of public participation guidelines: Bryan Stuart, ASAB Vice-Chair
General public comments on items not on agenda:
Monthly Meeting Attendance Record (confirm completion): Confirm
- 2 Vacancies on ASAB: 1 Chapel Hill Representative, 1 Carrboro
Representative
o Rachel will follow up to see if Meggie Rom ick can change
her designated role to allow additional applicants for the
vacancies
- Alan Polak needs to resign from hearing panel as current
designation but will be elevated as the chair (may need to be
recognized by Board of County Commissioners)
New Business
- Priorities/Initiatives from Director Dr. Strong
o Short term initiatives:
■ Fulfill staff vacancies (6 FTE);
• Received approval from the County to start filling those vacancies
• Includes 2 shelter staff, customer services supervisor, and customer
service staff position
• Vacancies due to frozen hiring
■ Hired an Assistant AS Director(Greg Cezzeretti) from Wake County AS (9
years)
■ Closed the night drop off boxes
• Animal welfare issue (left overnight when needed specific care)
• Staff safety challenge
• Other counties' residents doing the drop offs
• Not widely advertised but signs have been posted at AS for a week
(effective today(August 18, 2021))
o Long Term Initiatives
■ Increase efficiencies
■ Look to automating pet licensing
■ Create position for a fill-time veterinarian(addition to 6 FTE)
■ Employee health, team building, and resiliency
o Update on Wolf Dogs
■ 9 in custody
■ Kept in a room where most of them are kept together but they are not leash
trained and cannot be "walked"
■ Placed on anti-anxiety meds to help with the adjustment
■ Sanctuaries full- hard to place
■ Working with an expert from NC State and she will help to transition wolf
dogs to placement
■ Upon placement, dogs will be spayed/neutered
■ Rabies vaccines will be administered but they are not considered vaccinated
■ 1 female wolf dog remains at large in the community in Orange County(trap
set up by Underwood Grocery Store)
Wild Dangerous Animal Escapes in Raleigh
o Bryan Stuart shared expertise as chief herpetologist of Museum of Natural Sciences
on the zebra cobra incident in North Raleigh.
■ Person had more than 70 snakes (not his first offense)
■ Zebra cobra not even the most dangerous snake in his possession
■ Possessor facing charges in court under State statute, Article 55 (took plea
deal)
■ Private citizens keeping venomous snakes in their homes are more common
than one might think which is extremely dangerous (despite differences in
climate because living in a human habitat)
■ Confiscated snakes rehomed in other facilities
o Museum of Natural Sciences official repository for venomous reptiles captured
pursuant to state statute.
■ No threat of reproducing with native species
■ Venomous snakes are especially dangerous where, as here, the anti-venom is
hard to find
o Orange County specifically bans venomous snakes under the Exotic and Wild
Animals Ordinance.
o City of Raleigh reacted and his proposing an ordinance that would ban the keeping
venomous snakes as pets. But, lots of added language resulted in proposal being
voted down.
o Wake County has a separate ordinance that addresses exotic and dangerous animals,
from the City of Raleigh (Raleigh AS falls under the police department).
o State Assembly is not looking at this as a state wide issue so, no pending legislation.
Old Business:
- Updates from the Racial Equity Committee
o Taken a break to allow Dr. Strong to settle into her position
o Plan to resume in time for a report to the ASAB next month
Second Chance Committee
o Ed Tiryakian volunteered to chair this committee
o Ed Tiryakian reviewed genesis of this issue (dog killing chicken)
o ASAB has previously discussed that many minor issues with dogs are really
reflections on owner behavior
o Wake County has ordinance that allows for minor infractions where the dog would be
designated as "potentially dangerous" and not automatically subject to the lifetime
muzzling requirement
■ Review of Wake County Potentially Dangerous Ordinance
• Owner put on notice
• If same activity occurs more than 1 time in 2 years, then declared
dangerous
■ Currently in Orange County, Potentially Dangerous gets same penalties as
Dangerous
■ State statute differentiates potentially dangerous and dangerous
o Ed Tiryakian spoke with Attorney Anne-Marie Tosco who is currently assigned to
represent Animal Services. She expressed some concerns about the Wake County
approach. Dr. Strong also spoke with Attorney Tosco for clarification. Attorney
Strong clarified that hearing panel would only vote on the designation before the
panel. Panel would not be able to alter designation from designation to potentially
dangerous. Dr. Strong also pointed out that a dog killing a chicken would still be
considered a dangerous animal even if the ordinance allowed for potentially
dangerous designation. State statute does not allow for second chances. Ed Tiryakian
would like to be able to include findings about whether the dog has a"proclivity"
toward dangerous behaviors.
o Can the ASAB look into a different approach from the current ordinance that would
address these less serious offenses while protecting
■ Not adopt Wake County's ordinance
■ Town ordinance in Washington state has an ordinance worth looking at
Motion to Continue to Explore Second Chance Option and Propose Revision to the Current
Ordinance
Vote (Motion/2^d)
Ed Tiryakian Y
Bryan Stuart Y(Motion)
Lee Pickett Y
Lucia Welborne Y
Sunita Driehuys Y (2nd)
Dawn Roberts Y
Meggie Romick Y
Allan Polak Y
Susan Spinks Absent
Brenda Scott Y
Lori Gershon Y
- Remote Location Committee
- Background:
o ASAB supposed to meet 10 times per year at AS
o Suggestion to have some meetings in the community to engage more citizens and
share what AS does
o Per County Attorney John Roberts, ASAB need to preprint dates and locations of all
meetings in a year must be done in January. Any changes need BOCC approval
o Targeted 3 venues in OC for 3 meetings in 2022 (for adequate notice)
■ Senior Center(2)
■ Community Centers (3) Cedar Grove, Rogers Rd.,Efland-Cheeks
■ School
- Update from committee members (Ed Tiryakian, Lucia Welborne, Alan Polak)
o Seymour and Passmore Sr. Centers are eager and welcoming (Ed)
■ For June 2022 meeting, Passmore Sr. Center in Hillsborough
■ Suggestion by senior centers: combine meeting with AS services events
(rabies clinic, mobile spay and neuter, adoption drive)
o All Community Centers (Lucia) interested but given Covid-19, no centers are doing
in person events and do not have an idea about when they might be able to
accommodate an ASAB meeting. Lucia recommended as part of outreach to send
flyers for Clear the Shelters (national event)to the community centers. There is
advertising on WRAL. Dr. Strong was amenable.
o Schools (Alan): no success and not an ideal time to be approaching the schools
- Update on Wild and Dangerous Animals Ordinance Committee
o Bryan Stuart will send email to ASAB with attachments prior to next meeting for
discussion at the September 2021 meeting.
Miscellaneous
Informational Items
July 2021 Monthly Statistics for Sheltering
Services (http://www.orangecountync.gov/Archive.aspx?AMID=46) • July 2021 Monthly
Statistics for Field Services
(http://www.orangecountync.gov/Archive.aspx?AMID=45)
Informal Discussion
Adjournment: Meeting adjourned at 8:09 p.m.