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ORANGE COUNTY
BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
VIRTUAL BUDGET-CIP WORK SESSION
April 13, 2021
7:00 p.m.
The Orange County Board of Commissioners met for a Virtual Budget-CIP Work Session on
Tuesday, April 13, 2021 at 7:00 p.m.
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Chair Renee Price, Vice Chair Jamezetta Bedford,
and Commissioners Amy Fowler, Jean Hamilton, Mark Dorosin, Sally Greene, Earl McKee
(arrived at 7:42 p.m.)
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: NONE
COUNTY ATTORNEYS PRESENT: John Roberts
COUNTY STAFF PRESENT: County Manager Bonnie Hammersley, Deputy County Manager
Travis Myren, and Clerk to the Board Laura Jensen. (All other staff members will be identified
appropriately below)
Chair Price called the Board of County Commissioners meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
Due to current public health concerns, the Board of Commissioners is conducting a
Virtual Budget-CIP Work Session on April 13, 2021 utilizing Zoom. Members of the Board of
Commissioners will be participating in the meeting remotely. As in prior meetings, members of
the public will be able to view and listen to the meeting via live streaming video at
orangecountync.gov/967/Meeting-Videos and on Orange County Gov-TV on channels 1301 or
97.6 (Spectrum Cable).
A roll call of the County Commissioners was called; all members were present except
Commissioner McKee.
Chair Price said the board will review and discuss the Manager's Recommended Fiscal
Years 2021-2026 Capital Investment Plan (CIP) and provide further direction to staff. She said
the Deputy County Manager, Travis Myren is going to give the presentation. Chair Price said
Travis Myren would give breaks in between the information for Commissioners to ask
questions.
Travis Myren said the process was informal and encouraged the Board of County
Commissioners (BOCC) to ask questions during the presentation.
1. Discussion of Manager's Recommended FY 2021-26 Capital Investment Plan (CIP)
Travis Myren introduced the information below:
BACKGROUND: Each year, the County produces a Capital Investment Plan (CIP) that
establishes a budget planning guide related to capital needs for the County as well as Schools.
The current CIP consists of a 5-year plan that is evaluated annually to include year-to-year
changes in priorities, needs, and available resources. Approval of the CIP commits the County
to the first year funding only of the capital projects; all other years are used as a planning tool
and serves as a financial plan.
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Capital Investment Plan — Overview
The FY 2021-26 CIP includes County Projects, School Projects, and Proprietary Projects. The
School Projects include Chapel Hill-Carrboro City Schools, Orange County Schools, and
Durham Technical Community College— Orange County Campus projects. The Proprietary
Projects include Water and Sewer, Solid Waste Enterprise Fund, and Sportsplex projects. The
CIP has been prepared anticipating moderate economic growth of approximately 2% in property
tax growth over the next five years, and 4% sales tax growth. Many of the projects in the CIP
will rely on debt financing to fund the projects. Tonight's discussion will focus on County and
Proprietary CIP projects. Note: Page numbers are referenced below as they appear in the CIP
document. See Attachment A for the Overall 1 CIP Summary (page 20), County CIP Projects
Summary (page 30), and the Proprietary CIP Summaries (page 23). Discussion of the Schools
CIP projects is scheduled for the April 27, 2021 Work Session. Orange County Campus -
Durham Technical Community College new academic building project will also be discussed at
the April 27, 2021 meeting. Discussion will also be directed tonight to the Debt Service and
Debt Capacity— General Fund (page 169), the Water and Sewer Debt Service requirements
paid with Article 46 Quarter Cent Sales Tax proceeds (page 170), and Debt Service
requirements for Solid Waste (page 171) and Sportsplex (page 172).
Travis Myren made the following PowerPoint presentation:
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CAPITAL INVESTMENT PLAN
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FY2021-26 Recommended Capital Investment Plan
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Travis Myren said the board actually appropriates the first year of the plan, but will hear
the full plan. He resumed the PowerPoint presentation:
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Travis Myren said the $8.7 million is appropriated in FY 2021-22 for the 203 South
Greensboro Project, which is higher this year than following years.
Commissioner Dorosin said he was thinking about the introductory presentation on this
topic from last week and thinking about the operating budget. He said he is hoping there are
some opportunities to save some costs, if possible, and reduce any tax increase. He asked if
any savings could come from the CIP budget, or if the tax rate increase is only dependent on
the operating budget.
Travis Myren said the debt service that will be due in the operating budget is predicated
on prior year borrowing. He said if the board is focusing on the tax rate, it should look for
reductions in the operating budget. He said during the operating budget discussions, there has
been real consideration of how to thoughtfully recommend federal money to help pay for some
COVID-related expenses and therefore mitigate property tax increase.
Commissioner Dorosin said he appreciates staff has that on their mind. He clarified if
any changes are made to the CIP, it would be realized in future years in savings of debt
service, but not on the current debt service.
Travis Myren said Commissioner Dorosin was correct. He resumed the PowerPoint
presentation:
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FY2021-22 Recommended County Projects
Climate Change Mitigation Projects-$536,645(p,31)
-Established in FY2019-20
-Dedicated quarter cent of property tax annually
-Funds transferred from the General Fund into Capital Project to
preserve unspent funding from prior year
-Next funding cycle begins in early May
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Travis Myren said the Department Directors are present in order to answer any
questions he is unable to. He said the slides show the recommended appropriations.
Travis Myren said the $536,645 on this slide represents the quarter cent on the new
revalued tax base.
Chair Price referred to page 10 of the CIP, which states "funds that are unspent at end
of fiscal year are preserved in the fund instead of being absorbed back into the county's
undesignated fund balance". She asked if staff knows how much remains now, when it would
be used, and what are the plans for the money that is unspent.
Travis Myren said the goal is to spend it down every year, and he believes there is a
balance.
Gary Donaldson, Chief Financial Officer, said there is around $900,000.
Paul Laughton, Deputy Financial Services Director, said the balance is related to the
timing of the payment of these. He said the first year has been earmarked for approved
projects, and the rest of the money is also ear marked. He said it looks like there is a large
balance, but both of those years have dedicated projects towards those funds.
Travis Myren said the awards have been made, but the checks have not been cut.
Chair Price clarified that in July, it would essentially be zeroed out.
Paul Laughton said yes, and added that the account would then show the $536,645 that
would be allocated for new projects.
Travis Myren resumed the PowerPoint presentation:
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• Solar on Habitat Homes—FY20-21
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FY2021-22 Recommended County Projects
• Facility Safety&Accessibility-$368,200 l 33)
—Central Recreation Wheelchair Litt Replacement-$150,000
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Travis Myren said this project would install a new lift that would make the center ADA
accessible. He resumed the PowerPoint presentation:
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FY2021-22 Recommended County Projects
• FacBity Safety&Accessibility-$368,200(p.33)
• Accessibility Projects
- CeuntywM.aaeeslhNlly pmJeeta-sn.000
• Safety Projects
Ceaar Grove CommuntLy Cover securlty camerae-$10.500
Soulhem Human Services security ca as-$5,000
Secunty Fence al Emergency.So—e9-S34,500
my Nre eoppreeelen fnr Regk—M needs-$100.000
— OmNo County Transportation Services fire¢Fenn system upymae-$43.200
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Travis Myren said the fence is for security around the empty parking lot behind the
Emergency Services building.
Travis Myren said there are sensitive documents at the Register of Deeds that are not
scanned or available electronically, so a wet fire suppression system for the building does not
work for those types of precious documents.
Commissioner Fowler asked if efforts are being made to scan the documents in
Register of Deeds that have not been scanned.
Travis Myren said the documents that can be scanned will be, but some documents are
old and are in unscannable formats. He resumed the PowerPoint presentation:
FY2021-22 Recommended County Projects
• Heating Ventilation and Cooling Projects-$540,000
(P.36)
—Whined HVAC System Replacernent—5350,000
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Travis Myren said there was planning and design money in current fiscal year, so this is
the follow up equipment purchase and installation money. He resumed the PowerPoint
presentation:
FY2021-22 Recommended County Projects
• Heating Ventilation and Cooling Projects-$540,000
(P.36)
— HumiditylmpactStudy-$25,000
• Reoeenread nMp iss a„d replaeeeseele to aId—s h—Wity
—Eno Parking Deck Equipment Room-$15,000
— HVACMajerCemponentReplacement—$150.000
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Commissioner Greene asked which building this HVAC system is serving if it is located
in the parking deck.
Travis Myren said this was IT and electrical equipment in a closet within the parking
deck. He resumed the PowerPoint presentation:
FY2021-22 Recommended County Projects
Lake Orange Dam Remediation-$360,000(p.38)
—Repair existing erosion control barrier
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Commissioner Hamilton asked why the remediation is not more aggressive with fixing
the issue and making it safe, given it is classified as a high hazard dam.
Craig Benedict, Planning Director, said engineers were hired last year to evaluate the
system. He said the work is being done as fast as it can, based on their assessment. He said
the evaluation showed the need for important improvements that must be made immediately,
and bids will go out July 1, 2021 to make these improvements using money from this budget.
Commissioner Hamilton asked if the repairs could not be made more quickly because of
the engineering.
Craig Benedict said there was a certain amount of money allocated for the engineering
study, and now there are funds for the work itself in the coming year's budget.
Commissioner Hamilton asked if the process is being driven by budget or engineering
constraint.
Chair Price said she believed the Commissioners looked at this issue last year or the
year before, but there was not enough information at the time.
Bonnie Hammersley confirmed the Commissioners did hear the information last year,
and said the engineer was hired in order to decide what work needed to be done. She said
since the engineer completed the evaluation, the next step is to fund the project.
Travis Myren asked if Commissioner Hamilton was asking if money was no object, could
this be done faster.
Commissioner Hamilton said yes.
Travis Myren said the answer to that is not by much, because only so much work can be
done on the structure at any given time.
Craig Benedict said Travis Myren was correct. He said if this is approved, the lake level
will be lowered this summer and improvements will begin with the upcoming year's budget.
Travis Myren said the limiting factor was that only so much work could be done
simultaneously.
Commissioner Hamilton said this project should be a priority, because it is a health and
safety issue.
Travis Myren said staff will let Commissioners know if it finds a way to accelerate things.
Commissioner Dorosin said perhaps there will be some infrastructure money by the time
it is ready for the next phase.
Craig Benedict said it would be "shovel ready".
Travis Myren resumed the PowerPoint presentation:
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FY2021-22 Recommended County Projects
• 203 South Greensboro Project-$8,681,605(p.43)
-Southern Branch Library
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Replaces the CA—y aral MCOougle
Net new operating costs•S537,669
-Skills[Development Center
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Replaces leased space at the Europa center
- Parking
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Chair Price asked if the $802,000 for equipment and furnishings reflects the reuse of
furnishings.
Travis Myren said yes, it reflects the amendments the board made a few months ago.
Chair Price said she noticed the presentation skipped over page 42 of the CIP, which
discussed ADA Modifications at the Old Courthouse in year two. She asked if more detail could
be provided.
Travis Myren said this is the Old Courthouse. He said he thinks it is repairs to the side of
the building.
Steve Arndt, Asset Management Director, said the ADA improvements impact the path
of travel into the building, and the stone pathways are currently not accessible, so work would
be done to make it so.
Chair Price said she has been concerned about ADA compliance since she has been on
the board, and the sooner the work can be done, the better and she would like to see it done
sooner rather than later. She said if there is more needed from an engineering study that is
fine, but she would like to see all of the county buildings become ADA accessible as soon as
possible.
Commissioner Hamilton said it is a health and safety and accessibility issue, and asked
if$40,000 can be pulled from another project. She said this is an area that should be
prioritized.
Bonnie Hammersley said there is an amendment process if the board would like to
make change to the recommended budget, and the board will vote on the amendments before
they adopt the budget.
Commissioner Bedford recalled this project was removed from the recommended
budget in order to do the Durham Tech building. She said she would agree with adding it back
in if money could be found.
Travis Myren reiterated the amendment process, but also encouraged commissioners to
let he or Bonnie Hammersley know if they wanted to make changes. He resumed the
PowerPoint presentation:
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FY2021-22 Recommended Projects
• 203 Soutin Greensboro Project-$8,681,605(p.43)
— Project emended at March 2021
— Tefa1 Cen1y be'pei-$16,a29,105
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203 South Greensboro Project-$8 681.605(p.43)
Travis Myren said adjustments were made in the CIP so the net new borrowing
associated with the project is $275,000.
Commissioner Bedford said she was nervous when she first saw the diagram because
of the high lawn, but this area is not going to be part of library, and it does have some safety
features built in.
Travis Myren said the library would be on the first floor.
Chair Price safety will still be important in this area.
Commissioner Bedford said it does have some safety features.
Travis Myren resumed the PowerPoint presentation:
FY2021-22 Recommended County Projects
Parking Lot Improvements-$30,000(p.44)
—Crackfilling at multiple facilities-$15,000
—Striping and paintingat multiple facilities-$15,000
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FY2021-22 Recommended County Projects
Phillip Nick Waters Building Remediation-$685,193
(p.46)
—HVAC and sprinkler modifications in warehouse
Commissioner Greene asked if this building is where the county morgue is located.
Travis Myren said yes, the morgue is located in the back corner and some protective
walkways have been put in place so people can walk to and from the morgue. He resumed the
PowerPoint presentation:
FY2021-22 Recommended County Projects
Phillip Nick Waters Building Remediation-$685,193
(p.46)
—Office building remed iation and new HVAC systems completed in
FY2020-21 to solve indoor air quality
$4.6 mill-through budget amendmenta
—Warehouse Project
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prvteclive equipment,basic necessitysloclyPes
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Instal air handing unils to menage heat and hunidily
Modify sprindder system to meet code requirements for high bays
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FY2021-22 Recommended County Projects
• Phillip Nick Waters Building Remediation-$685,193
(p.46)
—Project Offsets
• cedarcm,ro community cemerarraw -$114.621
• Rannirg tunue for Enana Cheeks Community Center e;yarrswn-$100,0W
Hlstorrc CouHhouse alevatorm-demtratl-n•$188,M
• Ta1e1 o8sets-E403.814
Net—borrowing-$281.579
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Travis Myren said the Historic Courthouse elevator modernization should have been
pushed off anyway to align with other projects at the building.
Commissioner Bedford asked about status of projects at Cedar Grove, and the sewer
work, in particular.
Steve Arndt said the project is nearly finished and will be done within the next couple
weeks. He said the approach taken will work without replacing the whole system.
Travis Myren said there is a septic system replacement in 2024-2025 if replacing the
pipe is insufficient. He resumed the PowerPoint presentation:
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FY2021-22 Recommended County Projects
Piedmont Food&Agrioulture Processing Facility-
$140,000 l 47)
-Install roofing over exlerior freezers
- Funded DyArWe 4fi Sales Tax
Chair Price asked if details could be provided about the current partnership between the
county and PFAP.
Travis Myren said the county is allowing PFAP to use facility and equipment, but there
are no current financial terms. He said he just received a draft of a Management Services
Agreement back from PFAP staff, but before this there was not a formal agreement. He said
the county is responsible for the structure and pays for the associated insurance, while PFAP
operates the programs that take place at the facility. He resumed the PowerPoint presentation:
FY2021-22 Recommended County Pro}ects
Roofing and Building Facade Projects-$98,700(p.49)
-Annual roof inspections&repairs-$55,DOD
- Planningandde tunds srgnforWhitil(meedng room side of
building)-$23,700
-Repair funds for Dickson House-$20,0 DO
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Travis Myren said the Dickson House serves as the Hillsborough Visitor's Building.
Chair Price asked if Town of Hillsborough contributes financially for the maintenance of
the Dickson House, since it uses it and its tourism board meets there.
Travis Myren said there is currently no financial relationship with the town.
Commissioner Dorosin asked if there is a lease agreement with the town.
Travis Myren said there is a lease document, but no rent payments are collected.
Commissioner Dorosin recommended revisiting the idea, or think about selling the
building to the town.
Chair Price said it is a historic building and she understands the value of it, but if the
Historic Hillsborough Alliance and Hillsborough Visitor's Bureau are using it, she would think
they would be involved in some respect.
Travis Myren said staff would look into this and try to come up with a proposal that
would make sense.
Commissioner McKee arrived at 7:42 p.m.
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Commissioner Dorosin asked if staff could get information on what the building could be
rented or sold for.
Chair Price said it is a historically significant building, and was moved to its current
location. She said she is not really thinking of selling it, but maybe the town should contribute
upkeep and repairs.
Commissioner Dorosin agreed.
Commissioner Greene said she would not be opposed to exploring the idea of selling
the building to Hillsborough, as the town would value it as much as the county does. She said
she did not realize it was a county building because the town uses it.
Travis Myren said staff would bring back some options. He resumed the PowerPoint
presentation:
FY2021-22 Recommended County Projects
• County Sustainability Projects-$50,000(p.52)
-Annual funding for sustainahifity projects in County Facilities
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Travis Myren said this project is internally focused unlike the grant program, which is
externally focused. He resumed the PowerPoint presentation:
FY2021-22 Recommended County Projects
• County Sustainability Projects-$50,000(p.52)
-Annual funding For suslainability projects in County Facilities
- LED lighting at Orange Works(OSS Facility)-$5.240
Reduce Itghtlrg
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Commissioner Fowler asked if the county and schools are able to apply for Climate
Project grant funds.
Travis Myren said the schools still can apply for those funds. He said these funds are
focused on non-profits and schools.
Commissioner Greene said the Town of Chapel Hill won one of the grants this year.
She said the desire was for it to be an external community benefit that would be complementary
to what the county is already doing for itself regarding climate mitigation efforts.
Travis Myren resumed the PowerPoint presentation:
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FY2021-22 Recommended County Projects
Vehicle Replacements-$1.333,341(p.53)
-Public Safety Priorities
• Anlmal s—eesr untad vah,cle 551 500
Emergency 3em1cea(Amb4Wnce+Afth) -14CSS41
• SheriRs OlRce vehicles 5111.9W
Total PubYc Serery 3fi34,341
-Trarsportatior
Nine(9)OCTS b4s wlacemenle(see note) $560,000
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Travis Myren said Commissioner Hamilton asked a question via email earlier about how
the maturities of the bonds work. He said on vehicles, and things with short useful lives,
maturities are dated to match those useful items. He said borrowing packages are set up so
the maturity dates of the loans match the usefulness life of the assets.
Travis Myren said the Sheriff's office gets a lump sum and determines the vehicles that
need replacing. He said the age of the patrol fleet was such that almost all of the funds are
going to replace squad cars that are regularly on patrol.
Commissioner McKee asked if the size of the buses being replaced could be identified.
Theo Letman, Transit Director, said the buses are 22-26 feet long.
Commissioner McKee asked if these are the busses used for the Circulator route.
Theo Letman said yes.
Chair Price referred to page 12 of the CIP, which says $40,000 is recommended for
further electrification of the fleet. She said this amount will not buy much, and asked if these
funds are for a charging station.
Steve Arndt confirmed the money is for electric charging stations.
Commissioner Fowler asked if any of the vehicle replacements would be with electric
vehicles.
Theo Letman said the technology has not kept up with the industry to supply transit
vehicles with electrification. He said they are trying to get that technology, but it is currently
only available for larger vehicles rather than the smaller vehicles they utilize more.
Travis Myren resumed the PowerPoint presentation:
FY2021-22 Recommended County Projects
Vehicle Replacements-$1,333,341{p.53)
-Adminislralive Vehicles
AM3 Veniele Rerlanemenls(2) 573000
EAPR Vehlele Renucement f2] 570000
Fetal Aeminiyfrative 5143,000
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Travis Myren asked if any of these vehicles are electric.
Theo Letman said no, these are crew cab pickup trucks.
Commissioner Hamilton asked the price of an electric charging station.
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Brennan Bouma, Sustainability Program Coordinator, said the money on a charging
station goes to the installation costs. He said an estimate is around $10,000 per charging
station. He said the one element also being pursued, partly through a grant, is a lease for one
electric passenger vehicle. He said this vehicle will be available through the car share program
for county staff administrative needs. He said he hopes this will provide staff experience and
comfort with electric vehicles.
Travis Myren resumed the PowerPoint presentation:
FY2021-26 Recommended County Projects
Chair Price said some of the vehicles seem older, but with less miles, and newer
vehicles have many more miles. She asked if there is a gauge used to determine the
replacement of Animal Services vehicles.
Travis Myren said mileage, age, and maintenance history are factors that go into
replacement recommendations. He said even if a vehicle does not have a lot of mileage, it
could be in the shop a lot.
Theo Letman said the equipment requirements on the vehicles may also require it to be
replaced. He said there is an HVAC unit that is mandated on all vehicles that hold animals,
which may require a vehicle replacement on a vehicle with low mileage.
Chair Price said there is one vehicle that is 2 years older, and is accumulating a lot more
mileage.
Theo Letman said as the vehicles come up in age, he communicates with Departments
about which vehicles need to be replaced soonest.
Chair Price said there seems to be inconsistencies.
Commissioner Dorosin said some systemization would be good for vehicle replacement.
He said vehicles are made better and last longer now. He said he thinks the county may be
replacing vehicles more aggressively than needed, so it would be worth looking at best
practices.
Travis Myren said there are benchmarks and standards staff can provide to the board to
demonstrate how the replacement schedule compares to what best practices might be. He said
this table is a new feature in this year's budget that provides a lot more details than in past
years.
Commissioner Bedford asked if there is a similar chart with maintenance schedule for
the buildings in the county. She said this is helpful when determining what to prioritize, and she
would like to see more schedules.
Bonnie Hammersley said staff does have replacement schedules for those things, and
she would share them.
Travis Myren resumed the PowerPoint presentation:
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FY2021-22 Recommended Information Technology
and Communications Projects
Information Technology Governance Council Projects-
$500,000(p.56)
-t-unded every other year at$50D,000
-Saored by mterUepartmental work group
- Intended for functionahtyaw service Improvements
Campine.Assisted Mass Aapralsal(CAMA1 replacement(Taal
Parcel Identlricalion Number(PIN)replacement(All lane records}
New a ananip bill Presenlmerd and processing software(Tax)
Call managams system replacement Aging)
• CelVaelless servlee eellvery kleak(Library)
Enleryrise Geographic Infonnalw System(GIS)upgrade(All deparhaenls)
New GIS system(EnVlronmental Heat)
Swdchboard uppradt(Social Servlcec) —jr_
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FY2021-22 Recommended Information Technology
and Communications Projects
Contactless Service Delivery(Library)
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Travis Myren said the kiosk would eliminate the need for interacting with someone when
checking out or borrowing a book.
Commissioner McKee asked what would happen to jobs with an increased use of
contactless delivery.
Travis Myren said people are still needed behind the scenes, cataloguing and
inventorying books. He also said employees are currently doing curbside delivery, so the staff
who were stationed at the desks are now doing curbside delivery. He said this allows for
workforce flexibility. He said staff is working with Human Resources to determine what staffing
will look like when the county buildings reopen to the public, and is thinking about where staff
needs to be and where people can best be redeployed.
Commissioner McKee asked how staff would accommodate the public who cannot, or
do not want to, use this contactless option.
Travis Myren said there would still be an in person option.
Commissioner Greene said the Chapel Hill library began using a similar system, which
allowed the librarians to assist patrons in other ways. She said there is a threat globally to jobs,
with increased automation, but she does not believe in this particular case it would result in the
loss of jobs.
Commissioner McKee reiterated his concern for residents who cannot, or do not wish to,
use this type of system. He said he has gotten calls from residents who are growing more
frustrated with the lack of accessibility to assistance in the county.
Commissioner Greene said she would not support the library removing in-person
options for people who need it.
Commissioner McKee said he ran into such a problem personally last week, and it is
frustrating that county services are not fully available. He said the board needs to be aware
that there are a large number of people in the county who do not have the technical ability or do
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not want to learn the technical ability to use these checkouts. He said there should be
accommodation in service provision.
Chair Price said there were contactless options a several years ago at the Orange
county library, but there was always a person there to help as well. She said librarians are
important.
Chair Price asked if state and federal money for infrastructure will affect this part of the
budget. She asked if the county will be able to use some of this money for network
improvement or wireless expansion, as Orange County is trying to extend fiber to rest of the
county.
Travis Myren said yes, these monies will like be shuffled around, especially with the
desktop/lap top replacement schedule. He said desktops are waning, and lap top usage is
increasing, as it allows employees to work from home, or on the go. He said if expenditures can
be tied back to the pandemic in some way then federal monies can be applied.
Chair Price said there are some bills being considered for broadband expansion. She
asked if it was passed if some of that money could be used for these efforts and the other
money could be allocated elsewhere.
Travis Myren said the Broadband Taskforce is currently vetting the potential funding
sources associated with Broadband in addition to more money that could be coming to the
County. He said this is a good area to look at for potential federal funds. He resumed the
PowerPoint presentation:
FY2021-22 Recommended Information Technology
and Communications Projects
Information Technology Infrastructure-$1,164,000
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- Cyber Security initiatives $100.000
-Server and Network Upgratles 9240.000
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Travis Myren explained that Microsoft 365 is a Cloud system, but it requires an annual
subscription rather than a larger one-time cost, so staff is comparing costs.
Commissioner McKee said he thinks Microsoft 365 works well other than minor normal
hiccups.
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• Register of Deeds Automation-$80,000(p.48)
—Multiyear account to finance technology improvements in
Register of Deeds Office
—Prior year funding for replacement of Records Management
Software(RMS)
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FY2O21-22 Recommended Information Technology
and Communications Projects
• Communication System Improvements-$160.308
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-Multiyear plan to upgrade for Time Division Multiple Access
(TDMA)compliance
-Upgrade required as a user of the Statewide VIPER radio
system
—Future years escalated by five percent(5%)annually based on
current market conditions
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Travis Myren said there is a five-year plan to get all of the radios in compliance with this
platform. He resumed the PowerPoint presentation:
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Travis Myren said the Town of Hillsborough donated the land for the co-location project
with Orange Rural Fire Department. He said Orange Rural serves as the Town of
Hillsborough's primary fire response agency.
Chair Price asked if the cost of the land and the project could be identified.
Travis Myren said it will be about a $6 million project. He said Orange Rural would pick
up the other half of the project.
Chair Price asked if the Town of Hillsborough is contributing in addition to the land.
Travis Myren said there may be an area for a police officer to check in, but otherwise
there is not really space for Hillsborough staff.
Chair Price asked if the town is contributing financially.
Travis Myren said yes, through taxes from the fire district. He resumed the PowerPoint
presentation:
FY2021-22 Recommended Emergency Services
Projects
• EMS Substation at Waterstone-$2,450,000(p.59)
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Chair Price asked what the county is getting through the study, and how long it would
last.
Travis Myren indicated that Kirby Saunders, Emergency Services Director is doing some
research and it would likely be lower in the adopted budget.
Kirby Saunders said the last study was done around 2010 or 2011. He said the county
wants to get ahead of the amount of growth that is occurring, and forecast where stations need
to be in 10, 15, 20 years, especially when talking about infrastructure projects. He said these
projects are costly, and it is important to have them in the right locations.
Chair Price asked if it would be a year-long study.
Kirby Saunders said yes, and said staff is working with the Carrboro and Chapel Hill fire
departments to determine locations, as well as all the rural stations and asking how growth will
impact those areas.
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Commissioner McKee said he has been a proponent of co-location since he has been
on the board and asked if it is working.
Kirby Saunders said it is going great, and the only challenge is co-location in the
southern part of the county, due to such rapid growth. He said if it working very well from an
operationally perspective.
Commissioner McKee said one of the benefits from the last study was the willingness to
try co-location again, after some rough water on the first try.
Kirby Saunders said they are trying to build in dedicated spaces for EMS and Fire, as it
can be challenging when EMS and Fire Service are in the exact same space due to the
different rhythms of each group. He said the goal is to have them in the same location, but for
each to have separate spaces. He gave credit to fire department partners who have been
supportive during colocation efforts.
A motion was made at 8:26 p.m. by Commissioner Dorosin, seconded by Commissioner
Greene, to recess the meeting until 8:30 p.m.
Roll call ensued
VOTE: UNANMIOUS
A motion was made by Commissioner McKee, seconded by Commissioner Greene, to
reconvene the meeting at 8:31 p.m.
Roll call ensued
VOTE: UNANMIOUS
Travis Myren resumed the PowerPoint presentation:
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Travis Myren said Blackwood Farm Park is not on this list because it is an electric
vehicle project instead of a park improvement project. He resumed the PowerPoint
presentation:
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FY2021-22 Recommended Parks,Open Space,and
Trail Development Projects
• Blackwood Farm Park-$15,000(p.64)
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Commissioner Bedford asked if the vehicle was a golf cart.
David Stancil, Environment, Agriculture, Parks, and Recreation Director said it is a more
elaborate version of a golf cart. He said it has about four to six seats to move people across
between locations in a larger facility.
Chair Price said the entryway has been reviewed previously, and it has a costly price
tag. She asked if this is still the same.
David Stancil said yes, and $2.8 million in funds from years past will be going towards
these improvements.
Chair Price said she thought the $300,000 for the farmhouse renovation was put on
hold.
David Stancil said the house is more in need of remediation than the one at Mill House
Road, and, as such, has been prioritized.
Travis Myren said funds were moved from Millhouse to Blackwood. He resumed the
PowerPoint presentation:
FY2021-22 Recommended Parks,Open Space,and
Trail Development Projects
Lands Legacy Program-$500,000(p.72)
—50%Grant funded;Annual County cost-$250,000
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Chair Price referred to parks and community centers that were skipped over, and asked
if staff would provide a report of usage of community centers. She said people do not know they
can use the community centers or about the programs happening there.
Travis Myren said staff would work with the neighborhood associations and provide
more information.
Chair Price asked if it is known when the results of the landfill mitigation assessment will
be received.
David Stancil said staff is providing a status report at the Fairview Community's
neighborhood meeting in May. He said he expects to have the state present in September for
final recommendations on how to move forward. He said he should be able to provide a status
report to the board fairly soon.
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Chair Price said she also wanted the board to get the report.
Travis Myren resumed the PowerPoint presentation:
FY2021-22 Recommended Parks,Open Space,and
Trail Development Projects
Lttle River Park-$100,000(p.73)
—Repave park entry and parking area
—Cooperalive agreement with Durham County—50%of cos Is
Chair Price asked if $100,000 is 50% or if the county would pay $50,000.
Travis Myren said the county will pay $50,000.
Commissioner Fowler asked if half of the park is in each of the counties.
David Stancil said there are 255 acres in Durham and 136 acres in Orange, but a lot of
the publically accessible areas are on Orange County side. He said there is a 15-year
agreement of each entity paying 50%.
Commissioner Hamilton asked if Orange County is doing the contract work since it is in
this CIP.
Davis Stancil said as part of the interlocal agreement, Durham County does not operate
any parks, so Orange County operates the park on behalf of both counties and would be doing
any capital improvements.
Travis Myren resumed the PowerPoint presentation:
FY2021-22 Recommended Parks,Open Space,and
Trail Development Projects
Mountains to Sea Trail-$181,000(p.75)
—Trail segmentfrom Buckhorn Road to Cane Creek Reservoir to
Alamance County line
—Expecled State grant funds for land acquisition-$35,5D0
reduces County cost to$145,500
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Chair Price asked how much would be allocated toward land acquisition. She recalled
several years ago that she heard someone say Orange County would not buy land for the trail,
but would assist. She asked how much the county is budgeting for land acquisition for the
Mountains to Sea trail through Orange County.
David Stancil said for the coming year, $100,000 of$181,000 is projected for land
acquisition. He said there are four landowners with whom staff is working, to secure trail
easements or purchases of land to insure access. He said the state has been supportive of
land acquisitions. He said it is possible that the county will receive more than $35,000 from the
state to assist with land acquisitions. He said the county is acquiring land with the help of the
state and the Friends of the Mountains to Sea trail, and while some county funds are going to it,
there has been just as much from the state, if not more.
Chair Price asked if the total amount spent thus far is known, and how much more
would be spent on the Mountains to Sea trail.
David Stancil said there is existing funding from previous years, and there are a couple
of key properties on the map that will require easements. He said it is hard to estimate
because it is unclear if landowners will accept an easement, which is cheaper, or require
purchase of the land.
Chair Price asked if the amount of Orange County funds that have already been spent
on land acquisition is known, and if there is a cap for how much will be spent.
David Stancil said he would get back to the board with those totals.
Commissioner Hamilton said if the board is getting this information about the Mountains
to Sea trail, it should look at all the land acquisition that occurs to support the recreational
activities of residents. She said it is important to have perspective.
David Stancil said the Lands Legacy Program has 3-year action plans, and the next
three-year plan will become available in September.
Commissioner Fowler asked if the Friends of the Mountains to Sea Trail contribute
financially.
David Stancil said it is usually in-kind assistance. He said this group has expertise in
building trails, and are very helpful in this regard.
Travis Myren resumed the PowerPoint presentation:
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FY2021-22 Recommended Parks,Open Space,and
Trail Development Projects
Upper Neuse River Basin Implementation Strategy -
$175,000(p.76)
—Alternative Implementation Agreement
—Each jurisdiction agrees to budget and implement projects
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David Stancil said there are a number of menu items that all of the jurisdictions in the
Upper Neuse Basin can pull from. He said all of the options will count towards meeting the
implementation funding amount for each year.
Commissioner McKee asked if county is still held at the 77% and 40%.
David Stancil said yes, and the UNRBA has been working on a path forward committee,
and these rules will be revisited in the coming years, as there is widespread acceptance that the
numbers are not doable.
Travis Myren resumed the PowerPoint presentation:
FY2021-22 Recommended Parks,Open Space, and
Trail Development Projects
Park and Recreation Facility Renovations,Repairs,and
Safety Improvements-$180,000(p.78)
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Commissioner Hamilton said this is another area where it would be nice to have a
schedule and more details in order to respond to constituents about needed repairs.
David Stancil said such a schedule exists, and he would provide it to the BOCC.
Travis Myren resumed the PowerPoint presentation:
FY2021-22 Recommended Water&Sewer
Infrastructure Projects
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Travis Myren said this project would take sewer under the interstate to serve the parcels
in Growth Area A in the Buckhorn Area Plan. He said the debt service on the project is repaid
with article 46 sales tax money.
Chair Price asked if clarification could be provided on the districts shown on the map.
Travis Myren said Area D3 on this map is Area A in the Buckhorn Area Plan. He said
there is also a lift station upgrade shown on the map near Gravelly Hill Middle School.
Chair Price asked if the total is $1.2 million into area D3 on the map.
Travis Myren said yes.
Commissioner Fowler asked if this is an old map, or if this is something with which
people are familiar.
Travis Myren said Area A has always been in the Economic Development District (EDD).
Commissioner Bedford asked for some history about the sewer in this area.
Craig Benedict said the project started with a sewer lift system near Gravelly Hill Middle
School that provided a gravity system that went up to the D1 parcel. He said a stub was left out
near the interstate to take it up to the D3 area when development required it. He said a few
years ago a 16-inch water line was installed under the interstate to serve D3 from D1. He said
there is gravity sewer and the sewer lift station in the area, which was not stubbed out until the
program was phased. He said this is Phase 3, and is expensive.
Chair Price asked if Craig Benedict could explain the residential areas.
Craig Benedict said originally the gold areas on the map used to flow 3.5 miles over to
Hillsborough causing expensive sewer rates. He said in order to stabilize the rates there, a new
engineering program was developed to change the flow from Hillsborough to Mebane, near the
E2 parcel super sub regional lift station that can handle the flow of central Efland and the
majority of the EDD properties along the way. He said the out-of-town Mebane rates for Efland
are lower than that of Hillsborough. He said 1.5 to 2 years ago, all of the sewer, gravity, and lift
station assets were transferred from Efland, where it was under the county's cost, to Mebane.
He said Mebane maintains these assets.
Commissioner Hamilton said she is concerned because the board has not completed
the Buckhorn Area Plan study, but she feels it is being discussed as though it has done so.
She said this can be confusing for residents who are concerned about the decisions the board
is going to make. She said she is unsure what the return on investment has been on the water
and sewer in the existing projects, and what is expected in the future. She said there are other
things for which the Article 46 sales tax can be used. She asked if more information could be
provided on the return before making decisions on further water and sewer in this area.
Chair Price said there is little context on what is in each area on the map.
Chair Price asked if Buckhorn-Mebane EDD Phase 2 is different plan than the county's
Buckhorn EDD. She asked if the arrow pointing to 1 is part of A.
Craig Benedict said he would provide that information to the board. He said it was about
a two-mile extent of sewer that went all the way from D1 to A, and into Mebane. He said this
zone is part of phase 2.
Chair Price asked if it was Phase 2 of the Mebane-Buckhorn EDD or the county's
Buckhorn EDD.
Craig Benedict said the engineering program from Efland to Mebane was called the
Buckhorn-Mebane Economic Development Infrastructure plan. He said he will provide more
specificity for each of the phases to explain how it all ties together. He said it was done in
phases so there was less upfront money.
Chair Price asked if the map could be labeled more clearly in order to understand which
phases are parts of which plan.
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Travis Myren said staff can clarify that. He said there would be an abstract coming to
the board on April 20, 2021 discussing the next steps for the Buckhorn Area Plan. He said this
can be revisited and staff can provide additional detail.
Chair Price agreed with Commissioner Hamilton, and asked if it is premature to put in
the CIP that the county will spend over$1 million for construction if there is no plan to which the
board has agreed.
Travis Myren said he understood, and it was scheduled to move into year 1 so that is
why it is here. He said given the uncertainty of the area plan, the board can defer the item.
Commissioner McKee said there has been a plan to use half of the bond money for
infrastructure in the EDD. He said he may need a refresher on what happened when the board
voted to start using that money and dedicate it for sewer and water. He said Morinaga would
not be in Orange County if not for this development, which was a promise to the company, and
credited Morinaga for the economic development in this area. He asked if staff could provide
the commissioners with a brief overview on the return on investment. He asked for time in a
work session to look at an overlay presentation beginning with the EDD and adding in the
phases when the development happened, so it would be clearer. He said he did not want the
board to discuss pulling back from this investment, as failing to go under the interstate
strangles area A. He said there was definitely a plan when he first came onto the board, and
the county residents voted to move forward on that plan. He said this board may need to
review what happened, and the minutes from those meetings.
Commissioner Dorosin said Commissioner McKee stated a lot of his points, and agreed
there is a plan. He said it is confusing to look at two different maps of the same area between
different plans. He said it is important to remember that the plan has always been to provide
infrastructure to the area, which is important for any economic development. He said while
there are residents with concerns about the type of economic development, they do agree with
the idea of economic development there and without the water and sewer it is not possible. He
recalled some emerging agreement that area A made the most sense for development, due to
its location. He said there is value in making connections when thinking about the value of
investment.
Commissioner Hamilton agreed it would be helpful to review the history and the plan.
She said a plan is a plan, and it still needs to be evaluated if the plan turns out as expected.
She said part of the plan is agreeing on the kind of development the board wants to see, and
having the community's input so the board does not feel pressure to jump on something that is
not aligned with its interests. She said she wants to be cautious, and avoid a situation where
the board ends up wasting more time with a proposal that is not in line with the county's values.
Commissioner McKee said he does not disagree with Commissioner Hamilton, but
wants to remind the board that the return on investment is more than tax dollars. He said that
shortly after Morinaga opened, he was at Walmart and overheard a young man talking about
getting work at Morinaga, and it being the first job he ever had with benefits, insurance, and a
good wage that offered future security. He said if the board is serious about economic justice,
it has to talk about the communities that are struggling with low paying jobs and the businesses
that are paying $15 an hour and up.
Commissioner Greene agreed the old map is confusing when she has the newer
Buckhorn Area Plan map in her head. She agreed with Commissioner McKee and
Commissioner Dorosin that there has been a long agreement to put water and sewer in Area A
and it needs to be done in order to have conversations with any company that wants to develop
there. She said those conversations likely will not happen without the infrastructure, which she
believes the community expects at this point.
Chair Price agreed there needs to be infrastructure, and was referring to the actual build
out. She said the board told residents there would be a community conversation. She said she
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is not trying to get this eliminated, but just wants to make sure the plan is developing in a way
that will give the return on investment the board wants.
Bonnie Hammersley said the board can be talked about this on April 20, 2021 and staff
will bring a better map when the board discusses the Buckhorn Area Plan.
Commissioner McKee reiterated his request for Mylar overlays in sequence, beginning
with the original EDD.
Bonnie Hammersley said staff can do that.
Commissioner Dorosin said the plan is old, but has not been implemented until very
recently. He said the board talked about it for a long time, and once the infrastructure was in
place Morinaga, Medline, and other places came. He said he wants to take the time to discuss
it but wants to prevent unnecessary delay because the county is behind the curve on this and
on its economic development plan. He said this needs to be moved forward as effectively as it
can.
Chair Price said she wanted to do it effectively and efficiently, but could remember when
people would say it was perfect for a golf course. She said some projects have been missed
because of the lack of infrastructure.
Commissioner Dorosin said Economic Development Director Steve Brantley talks
frequently about projects going to places where the infrastructure is in place, including roads.
Chair Price recalled there was a lot of push back, even twelve years, ago about
development in this area.
Travis Myren resumed the PowerPoint presentation:
FY2021-22 Recommended Water&Sewer
Infrastructure Projects
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Commissioner McKee asked if this is located on the north side of Eubanks Rd.
Roberts Williams, Solid Waste Management Director, said yes.
Travis Myren resumed the PowerPoint presentation:
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Chair Price asked if the amount the county receives in fees from residents could be
identified, and if that money can be used for this replacement schedule or if it could only be
used in operating.
Travis Myren said all of these things manifest in debt service, and the program fees help
pay the debt service on all of this.
Travis Myren said the program fees are the foundation of the Solid Waste finances. He
resumed the PowerPoint presentation:
FY2021-22 Recommended Sportsplex Projects
Sportsplex Projects-$405,000
—Parking lot repair-$75,OOD(p.95)
— Heating,Ventilation,and Air Conditioning•5100,000(p.95)
— Dcor replacements-$125,000(p.(15)
— Kidsplexintlatables and equipment-8105,000(p.98)
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Travis Myren said as a result of closures over past year, this is a relatively modest CIP
recommendation for the Sportsplex that focuses on things that really need to be repaired or
replaced, due to age, or in the case of the parking lot, wash out.
Commissioner Bedford asked if the Sportsplex got some of the CARES funding, in order
to be safe with opening.
Travis Myren said no, the Sportsplex did not receive an allocation.
Commissioner Bedford said the Sportsplex has managed to be open at a limited
capacity.
Travis Myren said yes, and the county provided some personal protective equipment,
but that was the extent of the involvement.
Chair Price asked if the loss over the past year is known.
Travis Myren said staff would bring that information back.
Chair Price asked if membership fees cover debt service.
Travis Myren said the Sportsplex has been able to support its own debt service for the
past couple of years, and hopefully it will continue.
Commissioner Bedford referred to page 5, and asked if"Sportsplex funds" refers to the
fees people are paying.
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Travis Myren said yes, those are the generated revenues. He said that would be
differentiated from debt finance.
Chair Price said the "Sportsplex funds" has nothing listed for next year, but has $50,000
in year 2.
Travis Myren resumed the PowerPoint presentation:
Planning for Future Significant Capital Projects
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—Emergency Responder Radio System
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Commissioner Bedford said with past revaluations, the Commissioners have done a
revenue neutral tax rate. She asked if that is still happening, and said she does not understand
how a penny increases by 8.5% due to revaluation.
Travis Myren said there will still be a revenue neutral rate. He said there is a $7 million
increase in debt service to fill, so the question becomes how many pennies would it take to
solve this problem. He said in order to get to that amount takes $2,146,587. He said prior to the
revaluation, the number was lower, so it took more pennies to generate the same amount of
money.
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Commissioner Bedford said she still does not see what revaluation has to do with this.
Travis Myren said the revaluation means a penny is worth more than it was last year.
Bonnie Hammersley said the property values of the entire county went up.
Commissioner Bedford asked if the revenue would be the same since they set a
revenue neutral rate.
Bonnie Hammersley said the revenue goes down, because not as much revenue is
needed to meet the tax rate.
Commissioner Bedford asked if the tax rate is usually dropped to keep the revenues the
same.
Bonnie Hammersley said yes.
Commissioner Bedford asked if the county is still on the hook for 4.22 cents.
Bonnie Hammersley said yes.
Commissioner Dorosin said the county starts with a revenue neutral rate but it can still
be increased if it has to be. He said the starting base is changed to be revenue neutral.
Chair Price asked if staff is recommending a 4.22 cents increase.
Bonnie Hammersley said no, this is just the tax equivalent and staff would talk about this
when the operating budget is discussed.
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Commissioner Fowler asked if the board approving this would be allowing the county to
go over its policy.
Travis Myren said it is good to have a policy, but the biggest concern is that the elected
body is aware of where the county is with respect to the policy. He said rating agencies
understand there are projects that may cause fluctuations over time, which result in non-
compliance with the policy, but it is with the knowledge of the elected body.
Commissioner Fowler asked if this would affect Orange County's ratings.
Travis Myren said no and these projections have been in place since the debt model
existed. He said as long the elected body approved that amount, is aware of it, and there are
efforts to come back into compliance in future years.
Bonnie Hammersley said the rating agencies are also aware that the county had a $125
million bond. She said the county did not go over 15% until the bond referendum passed.
Commissioner Bedford referred to page 145 of the CIP, the Active Capital Project
Summary. She asked if these are the projects that were approved in the past but are not done
yet. She referred to the affordable housing land banking of$2 million, and said it would be
helpful to know the balances on these types of items. She said she would like to know when
these projects close out, and if doing so impacts the debt forecast. She said she would like to
know if any have funds have not been spent and are available to be used.
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Paul Laughton said most projects are ones that have gone out for debt financing, but
some have not, because they are not ready. He said the projects are shown on the page in
order to remind the board that they are ongoing projects. He said there is no new funding
recommended in the next 10 years.
Commissioner Bedford said she would like to know about those that have not yet been
borrowed, or the balance that may remain.
Paul Laughton said $293,000 was shifted from the Land Banking to the Affordable
Housing in the first part of issuance of$2.5 million. He said the ones that have not been
financed are covered in the debt model.
Commissioner Bedford asked if it is anticipated that the county will borrow $2 million in
the next five years.
Paul Laughton said yes.
Commissioner Bedford said it would be good for the housing group to know how much
is still available.
Chair Price said she thought the money for the projects was promised in prior funding
years and could not be touched.
Paul Laughton said it is available because the board did an appropriation towards it, so
it is in a separate multi-year capital investment project. He said Housing has done some
spending off of this, plus staff used $293,000 from the first year. He said there are monies still
available that can be used when ready. He said staff would go out for financing when a project
is ready, or has been done.
Bonnie Hammersley said the funds are not used without board approval. She said if it is
used for different purposes, the board has to approve it.
Chair Price asked if there is less than $2 million available for land banking.
Bonnie Hammersley said there is less.
Chair Price said the document should indicate as such.
Bonnie Hammersley said staff would work on that.
Commissioner Hamilton asked how debt service is affected if the county does not
borrow the funds that were budgeted.
Paul Laughton said just because it is budgeted, and intended to be financed, the Local
Government Commission (LGC) wants bids in hand or construction that has started. He said
the LGC wants to have that backup before approving financing of the money. He said the
county will not issue debt until bids have gone out or construction has started. He said if the
county does incur expenses, it will reimburse itself for those costs when it does the financing.
He said it does not hit debt service until it is included in a financing package.
Bonnie Hammersley said the debt service is for exactly what has been borrowed.
Paul Laughton said the debt models are based on the recommended CIP, and if a
project is started in year 3, the debt service will not start until year 4. He said the BOCC
reviews the CIP every year, and things get moved around.
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Travis Myren said the next check-in point will be the joint meeting with the schools. He
said there are questions that have come up through the petition process regarding operating
and capital projects that may have been affected by federal funding.
Bonnie Hammersley reminded the BOCC if there are any amendments to the
recommended CIP to send them by email to her and Travis Myren, and they will work with
Finance. She said if there are any offsets, which the commissioners want staff to look into
taking out, to also let her or Travis Myren know. She said the list of amendments will go online
on a daily basis, and all will be able to view what amendments other commissioners are asking
for.
Commissioner Fowler referred to page 173 of the CIP, and said she thought school and
economic development percentage was 50-50. She asked if this had changed.
Paul Laughton said nothing has changed with article 40 and 42, and the half cent sales
tax has been as General Statute for years. He said this can be used for capital outlay or school
debt. He said the Article 46 sales tax was approved by the voters in November 2011, and
became effective April 2012. He said board established the 50% for schools and 50% for
economic development. He said article 40 and 42 are different than the Article 46 sales tax.
Commissioner Fowler said the same page mentions a 60% target for school projects
and 40% for county projects. She asked if the county has been sticking to that, and if Durham
Tech is included in those school projects or if it is supposed to be K-12.
Paul Laughton said it is for school projects, which would be for any education projects,
including Durham Tech. He said this would be a 10-year window of trying to stay around the
target of 60-40.
Commissioner Fowler asked if the county has been staying around that percentage
Paul Laughton said yes, or very close to it.
Chair Price asked for a brief explanation of the pages after 146.
Paul Laughton said these are projects that correspond to page 145, and are ongoing or
have not gone out to financing. He said they are active projects that have not been closed out.
Chair Price clarified that it does not mean the Link Center will go unaddressed.
Paul Laughton said it just means there is no new funding recommended in the CIP for
the next five years.
Commissioner Bedford said Commissioner Hamilton and Commissioner Fowler may
benefit from seeing the format from last year's amendments. She said years ago, the school
collaboration discussed the 60/40 split, and there has not been much analysis since then and
whether this funding is appropriate. She said at one point county buildings were falling into
terrible disrepair and more funds were needed to fix them. She asked if Article 40 was part of
the pay as you go for schools.
Paul Laughton yes, pay as you go and Article 46 monies have been used. He said in
recent years trying to hold to the fund balance at 16% has been challenging.
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Commissioner Bedford said there was an additional $3 million for school capital that is
expiring this year because of the $30 million. She said it has taken the schools six years to
spend the bond money, and Chapel Hill-Carrboro schools asked for an extension to spend their
portion of the $30 million, so she feels there may not be capacity at the schools to do as much.
She said she would like more conversations based on need versus formula, and what people
can actually achieve.
A motion was made by Commissioner Dorosin, seconded by Commissioner Bedford, to
adjourn the meeting at 9:58 p.m.
Roll call ensued
VOTE: UNANMIOUS
Renee Price, Chair
Recorded by Tara May, Deputy Clerk to the Board
Submitted for approval by Laura Jensen, Clerk to the Board.