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Meeting Summary
May 28, 2020
3:00pm - 4:30pm
Online Meeting
Attendees: Mark Marcoplos (Chair), Melissa McCullough (Vice Chair), Brennan Bouma (staff),
Crystal Cavalier, Pat Clayton, Cathy Cole, Ray DuBose, Caroline Hansley-Mace, Laura
Janway, Kathy Kaufman, Adam Long,Jonas Monast,John Richardson, Donna
Rubinoff, Owen Ryerson, Sammy Slade, Mary Tiger, Stephanie Trueblood
Public comments received by advertised deadline: None
I. Call to Order, Additions or Changes to the Agenda - Marcoplos called the meeting to
order at 3:03pm. Marcoplos asked to add to the agenda an introduction for Crystal Cavalier
at the point when she joins the meeting.
II. Approval of Meeting Minutes from February 27, 2020
No comments were offered on the February meeting minutes. Kauffman motioned for the
minutes to be approved as written, and Rubinoff seconded.The minutes were approved
unanimously.
III. Update from Climate Action Reporting Committee
Bouma began the discussion reminding the Council of the membership of the committee,
including Van Mater, Long,Tiger,Janway and himself. He also reviewed the purpose of the
CARD was to identify gaps and overlaps in climate action among members and to accelerate
further action.
The Council had expressed an interest in making the CARD public-facing whenever each of
the members had a chance to ensure it was complete to their satisfaction.The committee
set a deadline to make the CARD public of September before the annual event. Since the
CARD isn't necessarily newsworthy on its own, including it as part of a larger event or
communication is advisable.
The committee said that it would work to align the CARD with the Policy Committee's list to
the extent feasible, before asking members to spend more time filling it in. Once this had
been done,the committee would make a final push to complete it and likely make
individual calls to assist and set fields as "note applicable" when appropriate.
Council members agreed that they like the idea of a public-facing event in
September to report on the Council's first year of work.
Rubinoff reminded the Council of her request to link to the CARD in the agenda for
quick reference. Bouma stated that we would in the future.
IV. Update from Identity and Standards Committee
McCullough briefly updated the Council on the status of the LEED for Cities and
Communities grant and turned to the Committee's desire to split its members to
have the "Standards" element of its charge to go the Policy Committee and the
"Identity" portion to form the beginning of a Communications Committee that the
Council had discussed previously.
The Communication Committee would help to frame issues for the Council, and
potentially get out ahead of the messaging of opposition groups, work on in-person
engagement post-COVID. They could also survey residents or align with other
messaging campaigns.
Marcoplos asked for comments and discussion and added that Comm committee
could begin with basic definitions and aligning language.
Slade asked who the audience would be. There may be more value is to advising the
entities that are a part of the Council on issues of interest to County residents, and
to help hone our language. Or are we talking about public messaging campaigns?
McCullough reminded the Council that they had already discussed many of these
points. Not everyone on the Council is on the same level of scientific understanding
information. This committee could 1. )Get all members up to speed, 2.) inform local
governments represented on the Council as well as others. Perhaps this committee
could communicate with local government environmental advisory boards and
synergize support. 3.) Provide regular engagement. This is an interesting
opportunity to reach out to the public, for example having a table at street festivals
to collect input. The committee, once formed, could lay out it's charge more fully.
Kauffman added that the committee could also put pieces in the local media and
build support for local actions.
Marcoplos called for a vote to create the Communication Committee.
McCullough made a motion to dissolve the Identity and Standards Committee and
create a Communications Committee per the discussion, and this was seconded by
Marcoplos. The motion passed unanimpusly.
McCullough then called for volunteers and the following members indicated their
interest: Bouma, Rubinoff. McCullough, Kauffman, Cole and Marcoplos
Marcoplos then said that we can add more members based on need and interest as
we move forward.
McCullough indicated her interest in joining the Policy Committee as well.
V. Update from Policy Committee and Discussion
Trueblood updated the Council on recent discussion and work of the Policy Council, saying
that the easiest way to understand is to go back in time.The initial task given to committee
was to put together a list of internal strategies for climate action that were fully within our
control. As they met initially, they also saw lots of needs to advocate for external policies at
state of regional level. SO the committee then began by brainstorming a huge list of ideas
and then boiled the list down by removing actions that were too narrow or too ambitious to
create a more concise list of recommended policies.
Given the pandemic,they also identified a potential opportunity to ask the state
government to allow community resilience efforts in pandemic response.The budget
picture is constricting all spending statewide.
On the recommended list they shared, the color coding is there to help identify the lower
cost items that might still go forward and then set aside items that will likely require
partnerships.Another color shows items that depend on political will
The spreadsheet is not complete, and they are open to questions and suggestions, as this
committee works for the larger group.They need feedback before they go much farther.
Monast added that Hansley-Mace and Trueblood did the lion's share of the work to get us
to this point. And highlighted the importance of planning given budget constraints. How
might COVID relief funding align with costs savings as well as energy savings?
Trueblood added that they see their work as being related to the CARD, and the Policy
Committee's role is to think about what is not being done.They would like to be able to
share this list broadly to show all of the things that can be done.
Slade added that the categorization of the low-cost items is not meant for everyone to just
do the low hanging fruit and that over time the higher-cost items would need to be done as
well.
Marcoplos asked if we could add some descriptive notes beside costs to help with
prioritization, and Trueblood agreed saying that time was a limiting factor but more
description and cost details are intended to be added.
Kauffman said that the list is great and very thorough. As we deal with pandemic, how do
we prioritize these items? How to we recover in a greener and smarter way. Does the Policy
committee have ideas on where to start on this?
Trueblood said that prioritizing is the next step in our work.Their committee is interested in
hearing from other Council members on this. We need to keep in mind that each local
government will make their own decisions.
Hansley-Mace added that there were 8 criteria used to boil down the larger policy list to
create the recommendations. One example was if the item already on the CARD.This
prioritization was done pre-COVID, so a second look is advisable.
Tiger then asked would the impact of ARRA-funded projects that worked in communities
help to inform current efforts. What were the shovel-ready projects that really moved the
needle?
Trueblood pointed out that there are many groups in NC working on this type of database.
EDF Cities, and League of Municipalities are two examples.The ARRA funds are a great
example of what worked and did not work so well, and we can look into the other groups'
lists as well.
Janway praised the work of the committee and said that the color coding is helpful. She
recognized some of the numbers on the list as having come from Carrboro.They were
meant to be one hypothetical way to reach Carrboro's own goals, so they may not apply
more broadly.
Rubinoff added that this is a great body of work and was looking forward to seeing this list
merge with the CARD.Also, regarding prioritization post-COVID., this is a good opportunity
to tie the two agendas together because there will be significant overlap. She then turned
to other questions related to the proposed letter to Gov. Cooper.Are you trying to suggest
actions to solicit funding from the next round of relief funds or to help shape the state's
recovery agenda?
Trueblood clarified that the spreadsheet and the letter do not necessarily go together.The
spreadsheet is meant to be a place to hold ideas for the future. Please send in ideas to add.
Monast can speak to the letter.
Monast said that the letter came together quickly last week. Part of the motivation for the
letter is to think about current opportunities and needs. It's not meant to replace any other
activities, but meant to put the letter in front of the Council to see if we want to do
anything with it. Recovery actions are happening quickly. Part of the intent is to frame the
issue along with other recovery efforts still ongoing from hurricanes. We could send it out
ourselves or send it around to our elected boards for more official approval. This relates to
what the role of the Climate Council should be.The window of opportunity will close soon,
at least for this year.
Slade said that one role of this Council is to communicate to our state government.The
trillions of dollars being spent to address this emergency coincides with the investments
needed to address the climate emergency. WHO manifesto referred to in the letter does
this well.
Marcoplos agreed that it is our role. We could get all of our local governments and school
boards to endorse letter, and then we can send it around the state for additional signatures.
One addition would be to think about all of the practices and tools and behaviors we are
doing to address the pandemic. Which are most valuable for the climate to maintain after
the crisis is over? Examples would be digital meetings.This would be good to add to the
letter.
McCullough agreed and said that there are lots of good examples and highlighted a couple
example webinars and a meeting of the Congress of New Urbanism.
Kauffman agreed that this is well within our purview to talk to the state. It's important to be
clear if we are requesting a response.The letter is important, and it will be good to stress
resilience on the local level. The state has an interest in increasing resilience in local
governments.
Rubinoff agreed we need to do this, and agreed it will be more valuable to endorse or sign
or collaborate.The questions she asked in an email before the meeting centered on making
this letter and our requests more concrete. It would be good to help connect to an effort
underway for the state.The 3 phases they are using on the international level might be
helpful to refer to: Emergency phase, early recovery phase, resilience phase. If the next
phase of the state's response is aligned with early recovery type actions it would be good to
follow that context.
Slade then said that the counterpoint to being very specific, is that we might be in this for a
long time and recovery depends on federal leadership.This letter might be better received
by the next government.
Rubinoff then asked if this letter is political, how do we distribute it?
Marcoplos said that if there is value in having governments across the state sign on to the
letter, we do not have much time. It's still worth the time to do this even if we can only get
a few additional supporters identified.
Kauffman said that in the progressive caucus,they included 3 principles of FDR's plan Relief,
Recovery, Reform.
Monast responded to Marcoplos's point about the number of meetings, do we want to
move forward with this letter as is, or take the time to develop a more complete letter.
Monast indicated his opinion that it's more valuable to send the letter as-is to help the
governor frame the issue even if the letter is general.
Janway agreed and stated a question for staff. Does this letter represent the Towns?Staff
representative might not have the capacity to sign on as they are not elected officials.
Marcoplos said that he thought the letter needs to come from the elected bodies.
Trueblood said that the Council would ask the governments to sign. We don't know what
the next phases will be but the Governor would be one good audience and then the federal
legislators would be good as well.
Marcoplos called for a decision.
Rubinoff agreed that we should not send this out ourselves without involving the other
elected bodies in the County.
Marcoplos confirmed.
McCullough said that she was excited about sending the letter, and might have comments
but agreed with getting the letter out. She pointed out that the Council is more than just
the local governments. We are non-profits and the community as well. If we send all
communications through the governments, we might lose that synergy of representation
that we have.
Slade then reinforced the importance of the WHO letter in aligning the interests of COVID
response and climate change.
Clayton then weighed in to say she agreed and thanked everyone for the work. She
reinforced that if we want to send a letter we should go ahead and not wait any longer.
Marcoplos then asked for a quick show of hands to see who might want to move the letter
forward. He saw a majority of hands and then asked if Monast would feel comfortable
making the changes that we'd discussed and then sending the letter out for approval over
email next week. He then asked Bouma if that process would meet the standards of good
governance.
Bouma weighed in to say that based on his best understanding,there could not be a voting
decision made over email. But if we could summarize the kinds of changes we were asking
Monast to make then we could structure a motion now referencing those items and take a
vote.That would likely be more solid ground.
Janway then asked a question of other staff members. We were selected to represent our
governments, but do we have the authority to sign off on a letter that would go to another
government?
Richardson weighed in to say that he agreed that we would need our own governments to
see the letter before sending it on to the state, and that is the process we are proposing.
Janway thanked John for clarifying and said that sounds like a good process.
Marcoplos said that the Council could send it out to whoever we wanted as the Climate
Council, but the governments would have to vote on it and send it under their names. He
then asked Monast what were the key edits to the letter that he heard in the discussion so
far.
Monast said that the changes to the letter itself would be to note that there are practices
related to managing the pandemic that we should consider keeping as regular practices,
stressing resilience as a way to reduce stresses in the long run, making explicit reference to
the WHO manifesto.Those are the main items. In terms of making the letter more
concrete, he was not sure that he could represent the Council on that. He would feel
comfortable making the other changes for the Council following a vote and then sending it
out a final copy to the Council. Perhaps the intention to make more concrete statements
could be satisfied by sending additional letters in the future.
Marcoplos agreed that those were the changes he heard and asked if any other members
had other changes for the letter. Hearing none, he asked for a motion.
Rubinoff then clarified the issue of"concreteness" not being a list of particular projects that
we want but providing example actions that respond to both COVID and the climate as a
way of describing our point. If you feel like our audience might benefit from that.
Hansley-Mace then noted the short time remaining and made a motion that Monast make
the changes that he just listed and that the Climate Council send the final letter to the local
governments so they can choose to send it.
This was seconded by McCullough.
Marcoplos then called for a vote and the vote appeared to pass unanimously and there
were no dissenting comments.
McCullough then volunteered to assist Monast in making the edits to the letter over the
weekend.
Monast said that the changes would not likely be difficult but welcomed her assistance if
she wanted to help.
Cole then volunteered Rubinoff to assist with the edits as well.
McCullough then said that the changes that Rubinoff had suggested are logical and would
be easy to include such as non-offensive examples like bicycle and pedestrian
infrastructure.
Monast objected based on process and personal reasons to the inclusion of examples. If the
Council was to include a list of example actions, we should all agree on those examples, and
also providing examples runs the risk of looking like those specific projects are the main
points of the letter, rather than providing the context and reframing what we are trying to
accomplish with COVID relief.Also keeping the letter broad will make it and the reframing
we are proposing more acceptable to people across the state who may define resilience in
different ways.
McCullough agreed that those were good points.
Marcoplos also pointed out that the motion had passed without including the examples.
The Council can always address that later as we will have other opportunities during the
long recovery.
VI. Succession planning for Chair,Vice-Chair,and student members—
Due to time constraints, Marcoplos suggested that this item be brought back on the June
meeting agenda.
Bouma agreed and reinforced its importance as student members and leadership would
soon be cycling off.
Additional discussion not on printed agenda -
Marcoplos attempted to introduce Crystal Cavalier, but she had just dropped off at 4:30.
Marcoplos then called upon a few members who had been quiet during the meeting and
asked if they had anything to add.
DuBose said that he was happy to be a part of the group and was glad we made a decision
to move the letter forward. He also asked that in preparation for the succession planning
discussion,that a proposal be prepared for the Council to review and comment on.
Bouma then agreed that was a good idea and offered to go back into the minutes to review
consensus decisions of the Council on the topic of succession made last fall, and provide
that as context. He would also work with the Chair and Vice-Chair to see if they wanted to
propose anything more.
DuBose said that would be fine, and just highlighted the utility of having something to
generate and focus the discussion around.
Ryerson then said that he echoed the decisions others had made about keeping the letter
broad and moving it forward quickly given the timeline of relief distribution.
Long then said that he had agreed with Janway's concern that he did not have the authority
to make the decision to endorse the letter.
Marcoplos then also asked Jim O'Connor who had been participating as member of the
interest list and non-voting observer if he had any comments.
O'Connor reinforced that the letter was a good idea as a way to help spread our mission. He
then made a comment about an earlier point on education, and he'd be happy to help with
that effort as he had some experience in creating curricula on renewable energy.
Marcoplos asked him to send an email to document his desire to volunteer.
VII.Adjournment—Marcoplos asked for a motion to adjourn the meeting and this was provided
by McCullough and seconded by Kauffman.The Council voted unanimously to adjourn the
meeting at 4:35pm.