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MEMORANDUM
TO : Orange County Commission for the Environment
FROM : Gene Bell , Interim Planning Director
SUBJ : Agenda for Meeting 13 of the Commission for the Environment
DATE : December 8 , 1998
The thirteenth meeting of the Orange County Commission for the Environment
( CFE) is scheduled for Monday , December 14 , 1998 at 730 PM . The meeting
will be held in the Homestead Community Center located approximately 0 . 6
mile east of Calvander on Homestead Road . The agenda and attachments for this
meeting are enclosed .
If you have questions or will not be able to attend the December 14 meeting please
let me know . I can be reached at extension 2592 at 7324181 (Hillsborough) ,
967 - 9251 ( Chapel Hill/Carrboro) , and 68 & 7331 (Durham) .
Note : Staff has confirmed through e-mail and phone conversations that a quorum will be
present for the meeting.
AGENDA
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Orange County Commission for the Environment ( CFE )
Homestead Community Center
P 600 Homestead Road , Chapel Hill , N . C . 27516
December 14 , 1998 - 7 : 30 PM
7 : 3 0 I . Call to Order - Dr . Loraine Kohorn, Chair
7 : 31 II . Consideration of Additions or Changes to Agenda
7 : 33 III . Approval of Minutes - November 9 , 1998
7635 IV . Report from Roy Fortmann , Air Quality Committee , on Status of
DAQ Grant Application
7045 V . Report by Dr . Alice Gordon on Formation of Environment and
Resource Conservation Department with Effective Date of January 4 ,
1999 - Opportunity for Comment from the CFE
8 * 35 VI . Breakout Sessions of Air Quality , Biological Resources , and
Education Committees
9 : 05 VII . Reconvene to Receive Oral Reports from Committees
9 : 25 VIII . Next Meeting - January 11 , 1999
9 : 3 0 IX. Adjournment
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ORANGE COUNTY COMMISSION FOR THE ENVIRONMENT
DRAFT Summary of Meeting Eleven , November 9 , 1998
Held in Orange County Southern Human Services Center , Chapel Hill , NC
(Prepared by Adhir Kackar, Planner I , Orange County Planning Department)
Members Present : June Dunnick, Roy Fortmann, Vice Chair, William Glaze , Commissioner
Alice Gordon, Annette Jurgelski , Loraine Kohorn, Chair, Rosalinda Lidh, Richard Pratt, is
Price , Lee Rafalow, and Jane Sharp -MacRae ,
Excused Absences : Daniel Okun.
Staff Present : Gene Bell , Interim Planning Director, David Stancil , Planner II (Land Use and
Environment) and Adhir Kackar, Planner I .
I . Call to Order
Chair Loraine Kohorn, called meeting to order at 8 : 03 PM .
II . Consideration of Additions or Changes to Agenda
Annette Jurgelski proposed that discussion of proposed expansion of the Shearon , Harris
hazardous waste facility take place . Commissioner Gordon added that this discussion could
include the crafting of a CFE resolution given Commission approval . . The motion to amend the
agenda was approved by the Commission and discussion regarding the Shearon Harris plant was
added as item V on the evening ' s agenda.
III . Approval of October 12 , 1998 Minutes
The following changes to the meeting minutes were approved .
Annette Jurgelski suggested that section x, item c of the minutes be amended to read : (suggested
changes in italic bold)
Loraine Kohorn stated that Biological Resources discussed the Eno River Association plans
for the possibility of acquiring a parcel of land that is currently a portion of Duke Forest .
They have checked with Haven Wiley and Livy Ludington who are in the process of
updating the Triangle Land Conservancy ' s 1988 Natural Lands Inventory .
Rosalinda Lidh suggested that the last paragraph of section IV , be amended to read : (suggested
changes in italic bold)
Ms . Lidh indicated that the consultants felt that they lacked enough time to review the plan,
but will get back to UNC- CH with their comments . Additionally, Ms . Lidh stated that she
has a revised copy of the plan that Commission members are welcome to see , although she
suspects that changes to the latest version of the plan will be forthcoming .
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IV. Election of Chair and Vice- Chair
Chair Loraine Kohorn opened the floor up for nominations . She added that if asked she would be
willing to continue to serve as the Chair of the Commission . Richard Pratt made the motion to
nominate , his motion was seconded by Roy Fortmann and Chair Kohorn was unanimously
elected to continue to serve as CFE Chair ,
Roy Fortmann indicated his desire to continue to serve as Vice - Chair given the support of the
Commission . Chair Kohorn nominated Roy Fortmann for the position of Vice Chair . Her motion
was seconded by Richard Pratt and Roy Fortmann was unanimously eled imous ect to continue to serve
as CFE Vice- Chair .
V. Report on the November 4 Public Hearing on the Environment and Resource
Conservation Department.
Loraine Kohorn opened up her report by commending Jane Sharp -MacRae for her comments at
the public hearing on the need for air quality to be an area of concern in the new department .
Kohorn followed by providing a brief synopsis of the key points expressed at the hearing . Her
comments included .
• There were voices of support, disapproval and qualified approval at the hearing .
• Opponents had felt that the proposal for the department had not been communicated well
enough to the rural segments of the public .
• Persons currently working in the area of land conservation were concerned that the tools were
already in place and thus the rationale for allocating county money to create a new
department was unwarranted .
• The concern was expressed that proper communication . was needed with landowners so that
they would be supportive of the efforts of the new department: :
Annette Jurgelski added that opponents were also concerned about the addition of another level
of bureaucracy if the new department was created .
Commissioner Gordon stated that there was considerable misunderstanding at the public hearing .
The point of the hearing according to her was to receive comments on the implementation of the
department and not to debate the merits of the department ' s existence . She added that contacting
and improving communication with land conservation groups , landowners , county departments ,
etc , will be one of the first items addressed by staff upon implementation of the new department .
Lee Rafalow asked where the Orange County Board of Commissioners currently stood in regard
to the new department . To this , Commissioner Gordon indicated that the department was
established in June , but is awaiting implementation. She added that the time table for
implementation is dependent on when implementation of the department is placed on the BOCC
agenda. In response to earlier concerns about miscommunication, David Stancil added that
theses issues are being addressed by the staff.
Lee Rafalow mentioned that the Chapel Hill Herald wrote an editorial piece coming out against
the department primarily on the basis that the new department will increase county overhead . To
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his comment , Commissioner Gordon stated that the new department will not add anything in
administrative costs and unlike others in the county , it will not be free- standing .
Annette Jurgelski questioned if the new department could be a part of the Planning Department,
rather than separate from it . Commissioner Gordon and David Stancil responded that in theory
this was possible , but given the regulatory nature of the Planning Department it would be better
to keep the new department separate so that it could be an advocate for environmental protection .
Commissioner Gordon also added that the new department would not be a regulator as many at
the hearing had anticipated .
Rafalow brought up the point that the protection of natural resources is a regulatory action and
that landowners that are concerned about their property rights have legitimate concerns . To this
Commissioner Gordon reiterated that the new department is not being created to take away
landowner rights . Jane Sharp -MacRae remarked that without the new department development
acquisition tools such as TDR ' s cannot be utilized . Mr . Rafalow commented that when he first
joined the CFE he felt that it could be a lightning rod for change , a potent political force .
Rosalinda Lidh, reoriented the discussion by asking what specific steps needed to be taken by the
Commission to ensure implementation of the new department . Sharp -MacRae felt that working
with the media was critical and that a response to the Chapel Hill Herald editorial needed to be
crafted to document the proactive role of the new department. Commissioner Gordon concurred,
and added that the positive publicity about the department has not been evident thus an op - ed
piece would be a good start . Rafalow and Sharp -MacRae indicated their willingness to draft an
editorial piece highlighting the need for the department. Lidh reiterated her prior concern about
if anything , by the Commission to guarantee implementation . Pratt
what needed to be done ,
questioned the need for an editorial given the lack of a public mandate and the fact that there are
enough votes on the BOCC to ensure implementation of the department . Commissioner Gordon
stated that there were enough votes from the BOCC to implement the new department .
Lee Rafalow repeated that he would be willing to draft an editorial response to the Herald piece
and would be willing to run it by Jane Sharp -MacRae and Commissioner Gordon . Jurgelski and
Rafalow suggested that the draft should be sent to the whole group for input and approval .
Rafalow agreed, and it was decided that he would craft a response to the Chapel Hill Herald op-
ed .
VI . Report on November 5 Triangle Open Space Forum (TOSN) /Shaping Orange
County ' s Future (SOCF) Meeting
Rosalinda Lidh briefed the Commission on the TOSN/ SOCF Open Space Forum . She was happy
to see so many people in attendance , and felt that the most promising aspect of the meeting was
the maps . In contrast, she was disappointed that information on tools other than direct
acquisition was not readily accessible . Lastly, she was planning to contact Jonathan Howes to
obtain a copy of his presentation. David Stancil indicated that Lidh ' s disappointments may be
partly attributable to the failure of a LCD projector . Stancil felt that this hindered the ability of
speakers at the forum to present, but indicated that a complete version of Jonathan Howes '
planned presentation will be shown on the peoples channel . Also Stancil mentioned that he had a
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copy of Howes ' speech that he could provide Lidh . Lidh added that another positive of the forum
was that it highlighted how participatory open space protection tools are and how they are being
used to meet landowner concerns . Rafalow added that the voices of opponents of open space
protection are important and cannot be ignored . To this Lidh indicated that she was surprised to
learn that preservation could significantly increase the cost of affordable housing .
Returning to the issue of TDR ' s , Kris Price asked if TDR ' s had been used in the county and if
they required any legal statues for their operation . Rafalow said that TDR ' s had been proposed in
Stoney Creek, and had the support of the county attorney , in the Stony Creek context . David
Stancil and Gene Bell responded that internal TDR ' s had been used in the county and in relation
to Flexible Development. Stancil added that traditional TDR ' s as suggested in the Stoney Creek
Plan have not been used in the county , and if they were to be used there is question whether state
statues permit localities to employ TDR ' s . To this Jurgelski asked about the expense of TDR ' s
and if the county has a fund in place to employ such a method . Stancil felt that the cost of TDR ' s
would depend on the area that would receive development rights .
VII. Shearon Harris Nuclear Waste facility
Annette Jurgelski shared with commission members an email that she received earlier in the day
detailing the proposed expansion of the Shearon Harris Nuclear Waste facility (see attachments) .
Lee Rafalow raised the question if the proposed expansion was a failure of the Southeastern
Compact . Mrs . Sharp -MacRae briefed the group on her knowledge of the Shearon Harris facility .
Her comments included :
• Shearon Harris is a high level waste facility for the deposition of fuel rods .
• The proposed expansion of the facility is due to the impracticality of storing waste in coastal
counties such as Brunswick and Robeson .
• The threat of expansion is attributable to the fact that as fuel rods are placed in cooling pools
with less and less distance between them, any disturbances would threaten life and the
environment .
• Federal regulations exist that govern the storage of fuel rods .
Commissioner Gordon, stated that the CFE should draft a resolution indicating their concern
about the possible expansion of Shearon Harris and submit it to the BOCC for immediate BOCC
consideration . She recalled that at the September 15 , 1998 BOCC meeting Mary McDowell of
Chatham County came and informed the Board of the situation at Shearon Harris , and that the
County Engineer was directed to look into the situation .
June Dunnick suggested that a letter should be written to the Nuclear Regulatory Commission
(NRC) , indicating the need for a public hearing . Sharp -MacRae added that CP &L should also
receive a letter . Commissioner Gordon asked commission members for specifics regarding the
role that the BOCC should play in addressing the proposed expansion . Pratt indicated that in his
estimation expansion is a highly political move . Fortmann added that the BOCC needs to ask for
more information about the plans for the facility . William Glaze indicated that the risk
assessment community has been calling for on- site deposition of waste rather than transportation
of waste . Pratt added that there are stringent regulations that govern expansion of this facility, if
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the proposed expansion of Shearon Harris is not in adherence with these regulations then the
CFE should fight its expansion .
June Dunnick spoke to the need for long term storage options also need to be considered , while
Vice - Chair Fortmann stated that there is no alternative to place this waste except on- site . Kohorn
asked if there was a technically feasible on- site solution . Gordon and Dunnick expressed their
preference for not expanding Shearon Harris . Gordon then asked Stancil to draft a resolution that
captured the sentiment of the group . After some wordsmithing , and statements by Dunnick,
Pratt, Rafalow and Gordon that the resolution should advocate for a public hearing , held by the
appropriate body , the Commission unanimously approved the following resolution.
CFE RESOLUTION ON THE SHEARON HARRIS NUCLEAR WASTE FACILITY
WHEREAS , on September 15 the Board of County Commissioners were advised about
potential expansion of the high- level radioactive waste pool planned for Carolina Power
and Light ' s Shearon Harris nuclear plant in Wake County ; and
WHEREAS , on November 9 the Commission for the Environment was apprised of the
possible risks inherent with the potential doubling of the high-level radioactive waste
pools and long -term storage to accept radioactive waste from two other nuclear plants ,
and
WHEREAS , a major waste pool accident would have an adverse impact on Orange
County .
NOW, THEREFORE , BE IT RESOLVED
that the Commission for the Environment asks the Orange County Board of
Commissioners to request additional information from Carolina Power and Light (CP &L)
on this potential expansion and long -term storage before any action is taken . The
Commission further asks the Board of Commissioners to request that CP &L provide this
information at a public hearing to be held by the appropriate entity , and that the Board
consider action on this matter at their November 17 meeting , and forward comments or
concerns to the appropriate agencies .
This , the 9th day of November , 1998
Loraine Kohorn
Chair, Commission for the Environment
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VIII . Update on Efforts to recruit new CFE members
Gene Bell informed the Commission that no applications have been received for membership to
the Commission . He stated that advertisements for the positions have been delivered through the
normal channels . Lee Rafalow indicated that he has spoken with Marti Mandel and feels that she
would serve if persuaded by a direct call from either Commissioner Gordon or Commissioner
Brown . Rosalinda Lidh added that emails could be sent out on various UNC - CH listserve ' s that
reach a broad spectrum of the local community . Rafalow indicated that he would send out a
message on an environmental listsery that he subscribes to . Annette Jurgelski indicated that she
met a former member of the Audubon Society that may be interested in serving , but is a recent
Orange County resident . In response to these concerns , Gordon indicated that anyone who lives
in Orange can serve on the board . Jurgelski commented in passing that it maybe useful to get
opponents of the new department to serve on the Commission . Chair Kohorn concluded by
stating that she felt with these efforts something should materialize .
IX. Discussion of CFE Liaison to the Water Resources Committee (WRC) .
Rosalinda Lidh began discussion by approving of the need for a liaison. She also indicated that
she would be interested in serving in this post, although she would prefer that someone with
experience in water quality would be a better candidate . Richard Pratt also expressed interest,
and felt that his experience in groundwater modeling would make him a good liaison . He asked
if his role as the CFE liaison would impact his work on the education committee . To this Gordon
said that would be up to the Education committee to decide . The CFE agreed that Pratt should be
the liaison to the WRC .
Prior to the breakout sessions Commissioner Gordon expressed her gratitude to Chair Kohorn
and the CFE for their support and presence at the November 4 public hearing .
X. Breakout Sessions
At approximately 9927 pm two of the three committees broke out into smaller sessions . Air
Quality elected to meet at another time , given that William Glaze had to leave the meeting . Gene
Bell assisted Biological Resources , Environmental Indicators/Education was duly helped by
David Stancil and Adhir Kackar . Break- out sessions lasted for 30 minutes until 9 a 5 5 at which
committees debriefed the Commission .
XI . Committee Reports
A . Environmental Indicators/Education
Lee Rafalow indicated that as a short-term project the Indicator/Education Committee will
develop with planning staff to establish CFE presence in cyberspace . In the long-term the
committee will coordinate their indicator work with the SOCF effort and begin developing
policies based on the sustainability report being prepared by Adhir Kackar . Lee Rafalow will
begin his role as the liaison.
B . Biological Resources .
Loraine Kohorn and Rosalinda Lidh stated that Biological Resources will draft a letter to the
BOCC , indicating the role that they would like to see the new department take , as it pertains to
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resource protection , the role that it feels the Biological resources Committee can play in
furthering resource protection in the county ; and specific directions the committee feels the
county should head in, relating to environmental protection .
In response to Pratt ' s question about when the new department could be voted on, Commissioner
Gordon stated that a vote could occur as early as November 17 , depending on whether or not a
vote can be scheduled on the agenda.
XII . Next Meeting
The next meeting of the Commission for the Environment will be on December 14 , 1998 and
will be held at the Homestead Community Center . To ensure a quorum staff will contact CFE
members . According to Gordon, if a quorum cannot be reached, then committees should aim to
have reports ready for the BOCC goal setting retreat .
Lee Rafalow inquired about the hiring process for staff once the Environment and Resource
Conservation Department was implemented . Both Pratt and Rafalow, indicated the hiring of a
department director was critical and that, as a representative of the public , the concerns of the
CFE should be reflected in the hiring of a department head .
XIII . Adjournment
The meeting adjourned at approximately 10 : 05 pm .