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MINUTES 1 Orange County OutBoard Meeting 2 September 19, 2018 3
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Members Present: Heidi Perry (Chair) At-Large Representative; Alex Castro (Vice-Chair), Bingham Township 6
Representative; Donna Musson, Eno Township Representative; David Laudicina, Cheeks Township Representative; 7
Jenn Sykes, At-Large; Ed Vaughn, Cedar Grove Township Representative; Brantley Wells, Hillsborough Township 8
Representative; Alyson West, At-Large Representative; Ted Triebel, Little River Township Representative; Art Menius, 9
At-Large Representative; 10
11 Members Absent: Jeff Charles, At-Large Representative; Justin Miller, At- Large Representative; Erle Smith, Chapel Hill 12
Township Representative; Gary Saunders, At-Large Representative 13 14
Staff Present: Abigaile Pittman, Transportation/Land Use Planner; Nishith Trivedi, Transportation Planner; Tina Love; 15
Administrative Assistant III 16 17
Others Present: Linda Griffin, Minutes Preparer 18
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Agenda Item 1: Call to Order and Determination of Quorum 20
21 Agenda Item 2: Approval of Minutes from August 25, 2018 Meeting 22
Motion by Art Menius to Approve Minutes, seconded by Alex Castro. 23
Vote: Unanimous 24
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Agenda Item 3: Consideration of Additions to the Agenda 26
There were none. 27
28 Agenda Item 4: Regular OUTBoard Agenda 29
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4b. Bicycle Safety Implementation Subcommittee Report (Abigaile Pittman) 31
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Abigaile Pittman presented a summary of recent events including a presentation to the Commissioners on June 5, 33
bicycle safety videos, the campaign logo and slogan, a draft of the bicycle safety web page, the purchase of branded 34
marketing materials, the design of five draft posters, the purchase of fifteen road signs, and the approval of 35
encroachment agreements by NCDOT. Upcoming work includes erecting the road signs, the design and distribution on 36
social media and radio ads. Community events may be deferred until next spring. 37
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Abigaile Pittman: I think that some of the photos should be changed out for a couple of the posters, or some of the 39
wording revised because the safety message is not coming across well. 40
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Jenn Sykes: The word ‘Police’ could be photo-shopped onto the car hood or another screen shot of a police car could 42
be used. 43
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Abigaile Pittman: Consider adding wording to the ‘4 ft.’ poster stating that the law allows crossing the double yellow line 45
when passing bicyclists. 46
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Abigaile Pittman: Does the Board think the information on the youth poster could be turned into a brochure? 48
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There was general agreement among Board members, adding that the flip side of a folded brochure could be used for 50
providing rules of the road. 51
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Abigaile Pittman: There could possibly there could be two different kinds of brochures. 53
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4b. Efland-Buckhorn-Mebane Access Management Plan Update (Nish Trivedi) OUTBoard Action: To review and 56
comment on the Draft Efland-Buckhorn-Mebane Access Management Plan (E-B-M AMP). 57
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Nish Trivedi: The background of this plan; it was originally adopted in November 2011. A Transportation Study was done 59
in 2017. It looked at existing conditions, environmental, traffic analysis and other issues related to the 2011 E-B-M AMP. 60
He explained the process of updating the plan. The Access Management Plan is the proposed long-range master plan 61
for the possibility of new roads and the connection to existing roads. The main purpose is to maintain the overall safety 62
of the transportation system, minimize congestion and crashes, provide efficient traffic flow and safety; and ensure 63
access to adjacent properties as development occurs over time. The plan is a long-range vision of the area. It is a means 64
of requesting right-of-way dedication during the development review process. Nish explained the history of the planning 65
process and what the plan does and does not do. In 2017 Volkert conducted the transportation study. The original 2011 66
E-B-M AMP included a map of the area and identified key intersections in the area. It included a variety of access 67
management strategies including 2 possible street cross sections. In September 2011 the Planning Board and 68
OUTBoard reviewed it and made its recommendations. There was a public information meeting held in November of that 69
year and the Board of County Commissioners adopted it that same month. In 2017 Volkert worked with Pilot 70
Environmental Inc. in completing the study. They determined the development potential for the area based on 71
environmental and other constraints as well as the traffic impact of that development. 72
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Alex Castro: The Plan didn’t address multi-model concerns; it is only about roads. And there is nothing about commuter 74
rail, only about roads. 75
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Nish Trivedi: The Plan addresses multimodal in the recommended NCDOT Standards Street cross-sections which are 77
covered later in the presentation. This study included a big spreadsheet with 30 rows of data that showed what the 78
various development sites might be. Hypothetical example is a 100 acre property was evaluated and it was determined 79
that only 30 acres was actually developable due to environmental issues, market factors and other constraints. 80
Maximizing the 30 acres development would result in a traffic impact; more cars on the road will be generated from that 81
development. The 2017 Transportation Study also considered NCDOT 24 different street cross sections, what State 82
routes should look like. It proposed 3 NCDOT standard street cross-sections for this area. The Study also took into 83
consideration the impact at intersections, what would be needed at those intersections, would turn lanes be needed due 84
to increased traffic. The slides show some of the intersections that would need turn lanes, stops signs, etc. to address 85
the increased traffic for that development. Now we are in the process of updating the original 2011 E-B-M AMP using 86
the 2017 Study. 87
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David Laudicina: Study for Railroad 89
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Nish Trivedi: NCDOT is having conversations with the railroads for improvements at railroad crossings. I have been told 91
that the railroad wants to close at-grade crossings. NCDOT is working with them on this issue and we have not heard 92
any specifics. The railroad has plans for this area and has ongoing conversations with NCDOT. I keep hearing different 93
things on their wish list going forward. We conducted a community meeting to let the public know what is going on in this 94
process and get their feedback. The study also included recommendations, and these are all presented to you for your 95
consideration as we draft the E-B-M AMP. We are taking the original 2011 E-B-M AMP, adding the 2017 Transportation 96
Study, with public comments, to create a whole new plan. The 2017 Transportation Study analyzed potential roads and 97
whether those roads were feasible and ensure everyone had access to their property while development occurs, and the 98
circles are for various intersection improvements. The green lines are from the study itself. The purple lines you see are 99
where staff determined additional roads and studies would be needed to address increased traffic brought on by the 100
development. The red circles are the intersections from the Transportation Study. We as staff think that additional 101
intersections will be needed, and more study and possible improvements needed for those intersections. Mebane has 102
also recently adopted a Comprehension Transportation Plan this June 2018. That is shown as the yellow line and yellow 103
circles. The study proposed 3 different cross sections and they include bike and pedestrian accommodations either by 104
paved shoulder and/or sidewalks. 105
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Heidi: Does this include bike lanes? 107
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Nish Trivedi: There are wide paved shoulders and/or sidewalks in the street cross sections but no specific bike lane 109
notations because plan does not include road design. Paved shoulders could be used as bike lanes. 110
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Heidi Perry: What was the first right-of-way? 112
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Nish Trivedi: There are four different street cross sections recommended in the plan, 60, 80, 90, and 100 feet. It 114
included a 60 ft. right-of-way for areas east of Buckhorn Road, 90 ft. right-of-way west of Buckhorn Road, and 80 ft. right-115
of-way for some of the major areas. The study also recommended improvements to various intersections, adding turn 116
lanes for various routes such as US-70, Buckhorn Road, West Ten Road and Ben Wilson Road. As part of community 117
outreach, we sent out letters to property owners in and around the study area. 118
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Ted Triebel: How many people attended the public information meeting? 120
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Nish Trivedi: We sent out over 700 notices about the community meeting. The community meeting was held last August 122
28, 2018 at Gravely Hill Middle School. An estimate 100 people attended. 123
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Heidi Perry: What was the hot topic? 125
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Nish Trivedi: Most wanted to know what is happening with their neighborhood. Some of them were at the intersection of 127
Green and Turner, some were from Mebane. The meeting had nice positive feedback. People engaging in knowing 128
what’s going on in the area. We created a website to keep the public informed and involved in the process and getting 129
more feedback as this process continues. We handed out a survey at the Community meeting to get feedback about 130
what was presented to them. We did not send these surveys through the mail. We also put this on the website, so 131
people can download from the website and return back to us. We have not gotten any back yet from that source. The 132
next steps – we are currently at the next step phase as we presented this to the Planning Board of the 5th of this month in 133
the same way as presented to you in your attachment to provide your comments. We will come back next month in 134
October for your recommendations to present to the Board of County Commissioners’. A tentative Public Hearing is 135
scheduled to go before the Board of County Commissioners’ in November along with the Planning Board’s and 136
OUTBoard’s recommendations. Depending on what they decide to do, they will act in November or December for their 137
decision. The plan will be implemented through the Unified Development Ordinance which requires development be in 138
compliance with adopted local plans like an Access Management Plan and it is through them we would use this 139
Ordinance to ask people to dedicate the right-of-way in the event these roads are needed. Any Questions? 140
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Abigaile Pittman: You have a month to review this plan (which is in your packet) and make comments at the next 142
meeting. 143
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Nish Trivedi: You are welcome to send me any of your comments and I will get the comments together. My contact 145
information is provided. 146
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Heidi Perry: In the Executive Summary near the end it states Orange County uses Access Management Plans to ensure 148
land use decisions take into consideration their impacts on transportation networks. Nothing is said about bicycle safety. 149
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Nish Trivedi: Safety is included; we can include text about bicycle safety if you would like. There are also some of the 151
surveys that were completed at the Community Meeting in your packet, with the questions and answers we asked at the 152
Meeting. 153
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Jenn Sykes: Was Ikea seriously asked about one of those sites? Someone thought Ikea looked at Mebane. 155
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Nish Trivedi: It was at one time going to Cary and then they pulled out. I have not heard about them coming to Mebane. 157
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Heidi Perry: Does anyone else have any questions for Nish? 159
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Nish Trivedi: Just to let you know that from the 2011 E-B-M AMP only one road was built, the service road for Morinaga 161
Candy Factory. Even that road had to go through the NCDOT process. 162
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Heidi Perry: Where is NCDOT with this Plan? 164
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Nish Trivedi: They attended the Community Meeting to answer any questions. There is no design or construction of the 166
roads, nor is there any funding for them. No projects or work are specifically identified in the Plan. 167
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Alex Castro: I see 4 crossings of the railroad, I am familiar with one at Mt Willing Rd where a young woman was racing 169
the train and did not make it at that crossing, so my question is, what kind of road modifications will be made if the 170
railroad does not want any more at-grade crossings with increase of traffic flow, is there any thought of reconfiguring 171
those roads so they are no longer at-grade crossings? The crossings are there, they are major roads. 172
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Nish Trivedi: The Plan does not go into any detail about what specific crossing will be closed. It does not make any 174
recommendations at any railroad crossing. Some intersections with the railroad are identified in the Plan as needing 175
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Alex Castro: No at-grade crossing between 85 to 70 and the segment I am looking at on page 66; it just shows the 178
railroad. If they close all those at-grade crossings and you can’t get from 70 down to 85 in this area and if you are 179
coming out of the Economic Development Zone you are not going to get up there. The big rail crossings are Buckhorn 180
Road and Mt Willing Rd. I know this Board with the Planning Department looked at what was going to be done in terms 181
of the traffic flow down Buckhorn Road and the railroad and some of the proposals were ludicrous down to tractor trailers 182
being able to manage the roundabouts they were proposing. 183
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Abigaile Pittman: That was part of Mebane Traffic Separation Study that was done, which studied about 5 existing 185
crossing. The Study recommended closing a couple and 3 were remaining. For Buckhorn they did 3 different options for 186
doing an overpass and the Orange County Planning staff had a preference that varied somewhat – A connection with 187
Frasier Road was favored, but without a round-about on Buckhorn Road just north of the interstate interchange. 188
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Alex Castro: Some were problematic like the one where that accident occurred. That is very difficult for tractor trailers 190
and are also a problem for low-boy trailers that get hung up because of the crest of the railroad crossing and so, that is 191
why I brought up the question. The railroad is not going away, and you are talking about access management road 192
improvements and they co-inhabit, and you must co-exist with the railroad and how are you dealing where they meet. 193
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Abigaile Pittman: The railroad also has some plan to alter the curve to make it less sharp because of the future train 195
speed increase. More planning needs to be done at the intersection of Buckhorn Road and the railroad. If you ever 196
want to see the Mebane Traffic Separation Study it is on the City of Mebane Website. The railroad will not have the 197
much higher speeds in Orange County as in other counties. 198
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5a MPO/RPO and NCDOT (Nish Trivdei) Materials to be provided at Meeting 202
OUTBoard Action: Receive Information. 203
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Abigaile Pittman passed out project updates for the Burlington-Graham MPO which was not available at the time the 205
agenda packet was distributed. 206
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Alex Castro: Question, Hwy 54 Corridor. Temporary traffic lights. They have been removed. Do you have any 208
information about what they found out about the lights, the effectiveness, traffic, cross traffic or any other results of the 209
test period? 210
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Nish Trivedi: I can find out for you. 212
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Alex Castro: The lights were removed completely. They were active for about 60 days at most. They were installed for 214
longer than that. A lot of people were complaining that it was causing traffic problems. 215
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Heidi Perry: Was it signalization timing or something else? 217
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Nish Trivedi: It slowed down traffic. It was supposed to improve the traffic. 219
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Alex Castro: They put one at Hatch Rd and one at Neville and both roads were one way, the north side of both roads 221
were a dead end at 54, Hatch goes a little further but basically, they were a dead end at 54 and it was to prevent traffic to 222
flow out of Neville up 54 during the rush hour. 223
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Nish Trivedi: I will find out from the consultant and get back to you. 225
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Heidi Perry: It would be good to know what the people thought who were trying to get out and then the people already on 227
54. You will let us know? 228
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Alex Castro: One traffic light has been added at Mebane Oaks Rd, that is far out. Play chicken crossing 54. 230
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Heidi Perry: Report on 54? 232
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Nish Trivedi: It has been pushed out another month. I will keep you informed. I will be presenting to you for your 234
comments in November. 235
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Alyson West: When is STIP? 237
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Nish Trivedi: Should be done in January or February. I think they pushed it out for another month due to the hurricane. 239
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Alyson West: Are we going to see it again? 241
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Nish Trivedi: Yes. Right now we are working on Division Points and pursuing local points on projects you recommended 243
get priority. OCPT’s 2 transit vehicles and Old Greensboro road. There is a chance NC 86 going north of Hillsborough to 244
NC 57 widening and intersection improvements getting funded if other division projects don’t. The Old Greensboro Rd. 245
was too high of a cost and will not get funded. 246
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Alex Castro: They did put in a new Bridge on Old Greensboro Rd. east of the Edwards property, west of Jones Ferry Rd 248
and that permits bicyclists to be on the road at the bridge when someone is coming, just wide enough I would say. It 249
does have a shoulder to it. 250
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Nish Trivedi: Right now, State projects and Regional projects have been determined. Right now you can go to NCDOT 252
STIP process and see the results, both with a map as well as the spread sheet which shows you the projects across the 253
state that have gotten Statewide and Regional Funding and the draft of the Division. 254
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Heidi Perry: So, when you said we did not make a recommendation for 54 it didn’t get points but that’s the same 54 you 256
are going to be reporting on in October or November? 257
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Nish Trivedi: Yes. There are several NC 54 projects in the STIP. There is the Old Fayetteville Rd and 54 intersection 259
improvement, Carrboro doesn’t want that one. 260
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Alex Castro: The development of the Lloyd Property. 262
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Nish Trivedi: Another NC-54 project from Orange Grove Road to Old Fayetteville Rd, the Operation Improvement project 264
is already funded, so they are doing that project. The widening of that same portion of NC-54 was not recommended for 265
points so it did not get funded. They are also waiting for the corridor study to be done. It is the 3rd highest scoring 266
Regional Project in Division 7. Just letting you know the results of the Regional Project. If it received local points it would 267
have been done because NCDOT division did put points on it. 268
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Heidi Perry: Whether we wanted it or not. 270
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Nish Trivedi: If it was recommended as one of the top 2 Orange County priorities in TARPO and it had gotten the local 272
input points. Division 7 put the points on it because they thought it was a great project and the study was almost 273
complete. The study would have been completed before the draft STIP went out for review. We did not put points on it in 274
either MPO or RPO so it’s not getting done. There is the other NC 54 widening project from Orange Grove Road to NC-275
119 in Alamance County. BGMCO submitted this project to NCDOT. BGMPO, I believe put points on it but nobody else 276
did therefore it did not get funded, that I am aware of. I will show you the results when the draft STIP is released. The 277
only project that has as chance for funding is NC 86 north of Hillsborough from 70 to NC 57, widening and improving the 278
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Heidi Perry: Widening of lanes? 281
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Nish Trivedi: Yes. The draft will be out in January or February 283
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Alex Castro: With these roads flooding and everything NCDOT did have a site, DriveNC.org which indicated what 285
segments of what roads were closed. You could go county by county, so if you were going out you could tell if you 286
needed to find an alternate road because such n such a road was flooded. That looked like it was effective. 287
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Ted Triebel: The Waze app is a GPS app– road closures and stuff like that. I think the flooding was happening faster 289
than the site could keep up with. In some areas it was still cresting and in other areas it was going down, so you had to 290
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Abigaile Pittman: At the end of the month the Board will have six vacancies. Abigaile the terms ending are for Alex 294
Castro, Earl Smith, Ted Triebel, Gary Saunders, Jeff Charles and Justin Miller. A Public Service Announcement (PSA) 295
was sent out several weeks ago, and a second one went out earlier today. I have copies available should Board 296
members want one to pass on potential applicants. A number of applications had been submitted but that more were 297
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Tina Love: I will email the PSA to Board members. 300
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Certificates of Appreciation to the two Board members present: Alex Castro and Ted Triebel; and the staff and the Board 302
thanked them for their years of service. 303
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Ted Triebel: I want to thank Heidi Perry for chairing the Board and Alex Castro for his astute comments to the Board. 305
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Alex Castro: I want to thank Abigaile for coming forward. I am also on the Aging Advisory Board and helping with work to 307
implement the Master Aging Plan. One of the problems we had was that we developed it as dreamers, if you will, and 308
we lacked the practitioners, the people to make it happen. It’s people like Abigaile and Stephanie Trueblood, a planner 309
from Hillsborough that populated the committees and what they do is make it more realistic in terms of what we can 310
aspire to in terms of improvement. I think that is what we do at the OUTBoard meetings; we try to add to the government 311
what we feel all communities would wish to see in terms of what is happening transportation-wise. It is good that we are 312
cross-populating getting people involved. One of the things that I consider as an outstanding accomplishment of the 313
OUTBoard is the bicycle safety effort, and the fact that the High School students were involved in producing the video 314
PSAs. I feel other noteworthy accomplishments were the fencing on the bridge over I-40 on Orange Grove Road; and 315
the Department on Aging’s AARP grant for the purchase of Semme seats. There is a great deal of bureaucracy with 316
NCDOT and the BOCC. It seems that there are many bureaucrat hurdles for such simple things as fencing on a bridge. 317
or signage for bus stops. We’ve got to fight the good fight and it will always be ongoing. 318
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Heidi Perry: With the end of Alex Castro’s term the Board will need a new Vice-Chair. 320
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Tina Love: Board Members can continue to attend meetings for up to one year or until someone is appointed to take 322
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The meeting adjourned. 325
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Heidi Perry, Chair