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Orange Unified Transportation Board
Meeting Summary
May 16, 2007
Southern Human Services Center, Chapel Hill, North Carolina
Members Present: Commissioner Alice Gordon, Nancy Baker, Jan Grossman, Sam
Lasris, Randy Marshall, Pascale Mittendorf, Sandra Quinn, Robert Peterson, James
Ray, Eric Tillman.
Members Absent: Bryn Smith, Al Terry.
Staff Present: Karen Lincoln, Transportation Planner.
Visitors: Pat Strong, Triangle J Council of Governments, Betsy Underwood, Historic
Preservation Commission liaison to Transportation Element of the Comprehensive Plan.
I. Call to order and roll call
Chair Robert Peterson called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m.
II. Consideration of additions to the agenda
III. Board Comments
IV. Approval of minutes of April 18, 2007, meeting minutes
Lincoln handed out a revised draft of the April 18, 2007, minutes with changes
highlighted in red. The board agreed by consensus to table approval of the minutes
until the next meeting to give members time to read the revised copy.
V. Framework for Developing Goals and Objectives: Economic/private business
transportation issues/needs.
Eric Tillman presented issues involving light vehicular commercial transportation
and discussion issues.
• There is a need for better maintenance on Orange County roadways to reduce
vehicular maintenance costs resulting from damages caused by un-repaired
potholes and other hazards.
• He also encouraged the local government to use private transportation services
for government subsidized transportation instead of expanding existing services.
He noted that most “big” businesses outsource their transportation needs.
Gordon noted that although public transportation is subsidized, roads are also
highly subsidized. She agreed that public transportation could be more efficient
and cheaper if only well rode routes were maintained and the other service could
be outsourced. Service would be more agile and responsive if it does not rely
on any one system. Grossman asked Tillman to demonstrate how/where a
private transportation provider could be more cost effective than the public
sector. Tillman replied that he would need the figures and routes of the public
agency to do that. Strong asked if the private providers were looking for more of
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the demand response business. Tillman replied that private transportation
providers could also provide contract service. Grossman suggested that the
public transportation service could contract a private transportation provider to
serve new routes during the trial periods, and then take over those routes that
were successful.
• Tillman discussed problems with transportation services using a “Z” license,
which is intended for private limousines. He said that businesses use the Z
license to get around obtaining a license to operate a taxi and that the legislation
did not define “limousine” and there were no checks on how the vehicles were
being used for business. The group determined that the issue was outside of
the County’s purview.
• Tillman discussed the need for the Elizabeth Brady Road extension project.
• He also called for provision of private economic development and use of private
transportation services to be included in the planning phase of University of
North Carolina North project. Peterson stated that planning thus far calls for
exterior parking with a main interior thoroughfare for transit.
• Tillman said Chapel Hill, Carrboro and Hillsborough Town Boards should create
Taxicab Sub-Committees to monitor and address citizens’ and taxicab owners’
and operators’ concerns and act as a liaison between the industry and the
public. He proposed that the County include block numbers in road signs
whenever a sign is replaced.
• Tillman stated that the Orange Unified Transportation Board should be more
inclusive of all transportation industries that operate in Orange County and
suggested that the board include a position for a private transportation provider
member.
Peterson asked for suggestions on how the board could move forward with
conversations regarding opportunities for private contracts with public transportation
agencies. Gordon stated that the Transportation Services Board may be the venue
for such discussion.
VI. Transportation Element Goals for the Orange County Comprehensive Plan
Update
Peterson noted the goals and objectives that would be discussed at the joint
Element Advisory Board meeting Wednesday, May 23. Gordon noted that the 8
principles approved by the Board of County Commissioners should be incorporated
in the goals and she did not see those. There was discussion about how the
proposed draft goals related to the principles. Gordon encouraged the board to
consider wording that would create a more positively framed goal # 1 than “to
minimize negative impacts”. Peterson said that the 8 principles should be visible
during the goals discussion at the meeting with the Planning Board on May 23.
VII. Priority Projects for 2009-2015 Transportation Improvement Program (TIP)
Peterson noted that the handouts of the ranking for Orange County’s priority
projects for the 2007-2013 TIP were helpful in understanding how the regional
transportation planning agencies chose priority projects. The group briefly
discussed priority project options, and noted that since the priority list would be
revisited in two years and the funding situation did not offer encouragement that any
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new projects would be funded, at least in the next two years, that the priorities
submitted for the 2007-2013 TIP are still appropriate for the 2009-2015 TIP.
Motion by Marshall to recommend the 2007-2013 priority list for the 2009-2015
TIP, second by Ray.
Vote: Unanimous.
VIII. Future Agenda Items
Peterson stated that he would like a further study of TIP projects at the next
meeting. He said that for the next meeting, he would like for the board to have a six
to twelve month schedule of next board actions for the TIP, the Comprehensive
Plan and any other projects that will require OUTBoard
comments/recommendations.
IX. Adjournment
Motion by Marshall to adjourn. Second by Grossman.
Vote: Unanimous.