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HomeMy WebLinkAboutOUTBoard Minutes 1114071 MINUTES ORANGE UNIFIED TRANSPORTATION BOARD MEETING NOVEMBER 14, 2007 MEMBERS PRESENT: Nancy Cole Baker, Pedestrian Access Advocate; Karen Barrows, Little River Township; Alice Gordon, Board of County Commissioners; Jan Grossman, Bicycle Transportation Advocate; Paul Guthrie, Transit Advocate; Sam Lasris, Cedar Grove Township; Julian (Randy) Marshall, Bingham Township; Pascale Mittendorf, Hillsborough Township; Sandra Quinn Johnson, Eno Township, Planning Board Representative; Bryn Smith, Chapel Hill Township, CFE Representative MEMBERS ABSENT: Dawn Brezina, Eno Township; Al Terry, Transportation Services Board Representative; Eric Tillman, EDC Representative STAFF PRESENT: Karen Lincoln, Transportation Planner; Donna Davenport, Administrative Assistant, II, Pat Strong, TJ COG I. Call to order and roll call II. Election of Officers MOTION made by Jan Grossman to nominate Sam Lasris as Chair. Seconded by Nancy Cole Baker. VOTE: Unanimous MOTION made by Bryn Smith to nominate Nancy Baker for Vice-Chair. Seconded by Jan Grossman. VOTE: Unanimous III. Consideration of additions to the agenda IV. Board Comments V. Approval of Minutes of October 17, 2007 meeting Sam Lasris: When we will have minutes? Donna Davenport: We should have them by the end of this week. Alice Gordon: The TAC met today and introduced suggestions and they were accepted. Nancy Baker: Can you remind us of what they were? Karen Lincoln: They were the suggestions concerning the Pedestrian Bridge and the NC 86 Bike lanes. Alice Gordon: The Orange Grove Pedestrian Bridge was a maybe. Nancy Baker: The Nash Street project was very important, what’s happening with it? Alice Gordon: They need another source for funding. Jan Grossman: They gave almost no points for connections for bike lanes. 2 Alice Gordon: The big discussion was about connectivity. Items that took the least money took most of the discussion. Karen Lincoln: They brought up the water systems and a lot of good points. VI. Items for BOCC Annual Planning Retreat Sam Lasris: Has a date been set? Karen Lincoln: I talked with Donna, and she said nothing had been set. Alice Gordon: It will be in January, I suspect. Sam Lasris: On attachment 3, is this part of the road widening for bicycling? Karen Lincoln: We had identified that and there was a problem with the resurfacing and DOT had agreed. They were going to go back and try to resurface the places they missed. You did have a big impact. Bryn Smith: It looks like the Estes Drive extension is starting to happen. Sam Lasris: Anyone have anything to add to the discussion of Attachment 3? I wondered if there is work on developing a plan on trails. Nancy Baker: It is one of our objectives, I think. Karen Lincoln: It ties into the Comprehensive Transportation Plan. There will be coordination between this Board and other advisory boards to develop some of those plans and there will be coordination with the ERCD. Bryn Smith: CFE is ready to begin working on the 2008-2010 “wish list” for the Lands Legacy Program. Jan Grossman: The Mountains to the Sea was originally going through the northern part of the County but now it is going through Duke Forest and the southern part. It would be nice to have something in the northern part. I think we need to work on that. Nancy Baker: We have two plans; the County’s Comprehensive Plan and then we have an element of that plan in our own Comprehensive Transportation Plan to get done. Karen Lincoln: Which ties into the element of the Comprehensive Plan. Nancy Baker: We have ideas, how do we need to proceed from here? What do we need to do next? Pat Middendorf: What about starting with a few very concrete projects. Nancy Baker: That is a good idea. We could focus on a project and the objectives for that project. Sam Lasris: We have a timeline with a guide on how to proceed. Nancy Baker: Our agendas will be to talk about these objectives. Karen Lincoln: About prioritizing the objectives. 3 Sam Lasris: One of the other things was the train stop in Hillsborough. Karen Lincoln: That would tie into the Regional Comprehensive Plan. Sam Lasris: Any other questions or comments. Paul Guthrie: Triggered by this discussion I have a request. I would like to be brought up to speed about the specifics on where people are on these various answers. Karen Lincoln: You can call me or come by to see me. There is a notebook for new members. Alice Gordon: Is there an orientation? Karen Lincoln: No, but we should develop an orientation for this board. VII. Candidate Enhancement Projects and Safe Routes to School (SRTS) Projects Karen Lincoln: On attachment 4, there wasn’t current information on the DOT website but the information listed is still valid. The Enhancement projects will still be reimbursement projects. These are handled through the bike and ped division. Nancy Baker: Area these already on the TIP? Karen Lincoln: You can ask for bicycle projects. There is a cap. Pat Middendorf: There are 12 different categories. Jan Grossman: I have a question about the school on Eubanks and Old 86. Can you see what is being proposed around the school? Karen Lincoln: I have not heard about the agreement they came to. The school was working with the DOT. Jan Grossman: What about roads to the soccer fields? Alice Gordon: Are you talking about the school or the park? Jan Grossman: The school. Alice Gordon: The school should be determined by now. I would imagine there would be right turn lane. Karen Lincoln: I know there is an approved round about. I can check into that for you. Alice Gordon: I know there is progress on Twin Creeks. Bryn Smith: Is this City or County? Paul Guthrie: Eubanks Road is in the center of a lot of things yet to be decided. Jan Grossman: Eubanks Road is listed as a local road. Alice Gordon: Somebody asked about it being a federal system. 4 Pat Middendorf: Can one do an upgrade without the other? Alice Gordon: I don’t know. Karen Lincoln: The functional classification is something you want to consider with your Comprehensive Transportation Plan. You have a State and Federal classification. Alice Gordon: How much of an upgrade can be done with the system that is in place? And can we determine if we need to make a change to figure out the best way. Bryn Smith: My question is on page 2, concerning the 20% of the cost- Do you submit the whole cost? Karen Lincoln: Yes. The cost of the project is what is submitted. Bryn Smith: Not only do we have to have the project but also temporary funding. Craig Benedict: Part of the process was to have the annual goal for the budgetary implication of goals. Nancy Baker: For part of the project? Craig Benedict: Yes. Sam Lasris: What is a realistic amount or size of a project? Craig Benedict: We can analyze to find out which ones get funded. Typically under $200,000-250,000. Karen Lincoln: In one of the handouts, there is a draft of 2009-2015 Improvement Programs; there are projects separated by type. In item E, those are all enhancements projects. They are on page 7-38. The arrows are Orange County’s projects. Alice Gordon: What is the hand written comment? Karen Lincoln: The contract to do the Park and Ride Lot, in the agreement states in years 10 and 11, is funded by TARPO. The arrows on the left side are projects that have changed. Most have already been completed. Nancy Baker: These projects are the ones that someone has actually used. Karen Lincoln: Yes. I’ll get more information to you about this. Most of it is on the application. There are about 12 categories. Sam Lasris: Will we see those categories? Karen Lincoln: I am going to get information to you on that. Sam Lasris: What do you see as a timeline for this board? Karen Lincoln: What you could do is have some idea of the areas that need improvement so you will have a list ready. Sam Lasris: Is that separate from List A? 5 Karen Lincoln: No, but some of the types of projects mentioned would suggest what an enhancement project would be. Bryn Smith: Would the bridge be an example of that? Karen Lincoln: There maybe something in connection with the bridge that we could do. Let me talk about Attachment 5. This is a call for projects like mid-2008. This is also reimbursement program. On the back page there are more guidelines. They have taken some of the money for Safety School Program to be distributed. It has to go through the application. You can combine funds. Nancy Baker: They are trying for funding for Nash Street in Hillsborough. They are looking at funding from DOT. Bryn Smith: A sidewalk? Nancy Baker: Yes. Alice Gordon: It would be helpful for you to get your thoughts about the projects and different sizes of the projects so when the grants come through, you will have a list ready. Randy Marshall: Someone has come up with a priority list from the school system. We can do the same with a list. Nancy Baker: That is a good idea. Randy Marshall: The ETA would be interested in ding that. Gathering data and ranking with the costs. Pat Middendorf: The 70-90% is for small capital projects? You could do several ‘walk and don’t walk’ signs. Randy Marshall: It is a tradeoff if you can use this transportation money. We could send letters to the schools asking for the top 3 needs of the school regarding transportation. Sam Lasris: Are we in agreement that we want a list for the next meeting? Paul Guthrie: I think we don’t need a broad range of projects. We need specific type of projects. Karen Lincoln: We need to clear a meeting to get the maps out to see what exists. Randy Marshall: It sounds like you can organize it by funding source. Bryn Smith: We would like to develop a standing list of projects. Alice Gordon: You need to confirm your list of big and small ticket projects. Karen Lincoln: I would suggest we work on this the next meeting. We need to adopt a meeting schedule and make a list of these projects. VIII. Adjournment Tina L. Owen, Minutes Preparer