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Approved 12/19/12
MINUTES
ORANGE UNIFIED TRANSPORTATION BOARD
OCTOBER 17, 2012
MEMBERS PRESENT: Paul Guthrie, Chapel Hill Township; Jeff Charles, Bicycle Advocate; Julian (Randy) Marshall,
Bingham Township; Amy Cole, Transit Advocate; Sam Lasris, Cedar Grove Township Representative; Annette
Jurgelski, Eno Township
MEMBERS ABSENT: Nancy Cole Baker, Pedestrian Access & Safety Advocate; Renee Price, CfE Representative; Alan
Campbell, Planning Board Representative; Cheeks Township - Vacant; Economic Development Commission - Vacant;
Little River Township- Vacant; Hillsborough Township — Vacant;
STAFF PRESENT: Darcy Zorio, Transportation Planner; Tina Love, Administrative Assistant II
AGENDA ITEM 1: CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
AGENDA ITEM II: CONSIDERATIONS OF ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA
AGENDA ITEM III: APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR SEPTEMBER 19, 2012
The OUTBoard minutes from September 19, 2012 were approved by consensus.
AGENDA ITEM IV: MEMBERSHIP DISCUSSION
At their work session on October 9, 2012, the BOCC discussed the draft policies and
procedures for the OUTBoard presented by the County attorney.
OUTBoard Action: Receive information
Darcy Zorio: The BOCC has decided to change the membership requirements for the members of this board. Instead
of having members that are directly appointed from other boards, the OUTBoard will not have seats that go into that At
Large members with expertise in the following areas; bicycle transportation, pedestrian access and safety and public
transit. They will include someone who has an interest in the environment and air quality, economic development and
planning. The attorney will change the policies and procedures to reflect their comments. The BOCC will review it
again and vote on this.
Paul Guthrie: Did they discuss the issue of private transportation?
Tina Love: The regularly scheduled meeting for the BOCC will be November 6.
There was a lengthy discussion about the appointments and the number of seats available. The vacancies are
Pedestrian, Bingham, and Cedar Grove, Cheeks, Hillsborough Township and an EDC representative.
Paul Guthrie: I think communication should go to someone in authority saying that understanding there is a busy
schedule, this committee can't sit stagnate with the membership it has.
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Randy Marshall: They need to move ahead and fill in the staff positions.
Paul Guthrie: Is the group interested in communicating our concerns beginning with Craig?
Randy Marshall: If there is an interview committee? If so, I think it is appropriate for an OUTBoard member to set on
the committee.
Paul Guthrie: I think we should go to Craig with that comment and communication directly with the BOCC. I am
thinking of a letter to Bernadette as Chairman of the Commission. Does anyone have any objection? The consensus
is yes. Tina, do you think there is someone that would do well on this committee without shaking the bushes.
Tina Love: We have a technical oriented pool of applicants. Based on their resume or application, they would be
good. There may be reluctance because the BOCC may not know the applicants.
Paul Guthrie: I will draft a letter and share that with you.
Sam Lasris: What will be the method of relaying information?
Darcy Zorio: Memos as far as I am concerned but Alice wanted to make it clear that you may be provided to the
planning board she didn't want it going only to the planning board. Frank made the comment that communication
would be handled in a lot of ways by staff.
Sam Lasris: How do we know the points we want conveyed will be conveyed?
Paul Guthrie: I will try to raise that in the spirit of stating it in the letter that essentially reports directly to the BOCC.
Sam Lasris: It worries me to have this filtered through a staff member.
Paul Guthrie: I think based on this conversation, is a communication that will go directly to the BOCC and send a
second letter to Craig with the same information.
Darcy Zorio: The last item is the CTP actions and MPO boundary issues which is moving slowly forward. The BOCC
has approved the boundary. The Burlington Graham MPO approved it. The Durham - Chapel Hill - Carrboro MPO should
approve it in two weeks.
Paul Guthrie: Who will pick that up on staff?
Darcy Zorio: I think Abigaile will.
Randy Marshall: In your letter, I would say one of the pressing issues for the OUTBoard is this 2'/z year process.
AGENDA ITEM V: STAFF UPDATES
OUTBoard Action: Receive updates.
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AGENDA ITEM VII: BOARD COMMENTS
Paul Guthrie: I would like to talk about how this committee could operate and what we should seek to do in the topic of
transportation. Are we planning for the County we were or the County we are likely to be? The dialogue I hear is
about the County we are and not looking ahead. The reality is that we don't have a transportation system today that
can handle it. You can either leave it alone for 5 -20 years or say what we are going to do or take small, smart steps
now. I would like to begin to think about how we should begin to address these types of issues.
Sam Lasris: You mean beyond the long term transportation plan we deal with?
Paul Guthrie: There is nothing wrong with those but they are a bureaucratic nightmare. In addition, we should think
about these things too. I ran a national advisory committee and the first thing I learned was the bosses don't have a
clue about how to use an advisory committee well so you have to push the bosses to have a meaningful impact.
Annette Jurgelski: We would want to push for the ' /z cent sales tax (i.e. letters to the Editor). We should be coming up
with suggestions for our own area. I see needs for the seniors in my community.
Jeff Charles: I am concerned about what the special needs for seniors for the last two to four years of driving (better
lighting at night).
Darcy Zorio: Aging in place. Seniors being able to live in their own house.
Paul Guthrie: But there is no transportation system once a day. There are people that are walking there, four or five
miles per day.
Jeff Charles: I have talked about the advent of new personal vehicle technology (i.e. scooters). Cars don't have room
to pass them. How do you integrate those vehicles with those who have posted speed limits of 35 to 45 miles per
hour?
Paul Guthrie: As far as future development in Orange County, where would you place schools, business or senior
centers or other facilities that serve a larger population? I don't think the CTP will do that. There are two key
ingredients that I don't see. One is the availability of water and sewer.
Randy Marshall: My guess is the rural buffer is going to collapse from all kinds of pressure. The rural buffer is the
reason the water and sewer has extended into the county but we don't want to talk about it and it's not on the agenda
doesn't mean it won't happen. You need to look at future trends and what we need to plan for to manage the
transition.
Amy Cole: Looking at the land development and the Orange County. I look to outside sources (i.e. documentary on
Portland Oregon). I think about when I retire, I will have to move because if the transportation isn't fixed, I will not be
able to go to the places I am going now. I think everyone should take advantage of public transportation.
Sam Lasris: I agree with Amy in that we have to look at transportation linked land use planning and 2030
Comprehensive Plan is a guide but it doesn't get us to where we want to be.
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143 Jeff Charles: Every time we talk about bicycling issues, it has to do with commuting to work. With respect to concern
144 about healthcare, with the obesity rate of young kids in the United States, we need to think about recreational
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147 Paul Guthrie: Why aren't we beginning to look at integrating the separate communication and transportation issues?
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151 Darcy Zorio: There is also the issue of travel training. People have to learn ride the bus all the time.
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153 Sam Lasris: Our Comprehensive Plan does not touch on this at all.
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155 Darcy Zorio: The annual work plan will be done with your input. These are great things that can go into that. That is
156 one way to get your ideas to the BOCC.
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158 Paul Guthrie: I would like to challenge everyone to list five to 10 topics that you feel the most passionate about and
159 send them to me on email and that will be a beginning of a discussion we could agree upon and pass on to the BOCC.
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Paul Guthrie, Chair