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DRAFT MINUTES
ORANGE COUNTY OUTBOARD
APRIL 19, 2017
REGULAR MEETING
MEMBERS PRESENT: Heidi Perry (Chair), At -Large Representative; Alex Castro (Vice- Chair), Bingham Township
Representative; Donna Musson, Eno Township Representative; Alyson West, At- Large; Jenn Sykes, At- Large; Ed
Vaughn, Cedar Grove Township Representative; Art Menius, At -Large Representative; Erle Smith, Chapel Hill
Township Representative; Gary Saunders, At -Large Representative; Ted Triebel, Little River Township
Representative;
MEMBERS ABSENT: Jeff Charles, At -Large Representative; Brantley Wells, Hillsborough Township Representative;
Justin Miller, At- Large; David Laudicina, Cheeks Township Representative;
STAFF PRESENT: Abigaile Pittman, Transportation /Land Use Planner; Max Bushell, Transportation Planner; Meredith
Kern, Administrative Assistant.
OTHERS PRESENT FOR TRANSIT ADVISORY SERVICES: Marabeth Carr, Landscape Architect (DEPAR); Matt Day,
TARPO
AGENDA ITEM 1: CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
Heidi Perry called the meeting to order.
AGENDA ITEM 2: APPROVAL OF MINUTES
FEBRUARY 15, 2017 MEETING
MARCH 1, 2017 MEETING
MOTION by Alex Castro to approve the February 15, 2017 OUTBoard Minutes. Seconded by Erle Smith.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
MOTION by Art Menius to approve the March 1, 2017 OUTBoard Minutes. Seconded by Ed Vaughn.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
AGENDA ITEM 3: CONSIDERATION OF ADDITIONS TO AGENDA
No additions.
AGENDA ITEM 4: SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS
AGENDA ITEM 4A. UPDATE ON MARCH 2017 MOUNTAINS -TO -SEA TRAIL OPEN HOUSE MEETING (MARABETH CARR)
Marabeth Carr presented
Ted Triebel inquired about trail funding. Marabeth Carr explained that there would be plenty of volunteers to help
build the trail and they mainly need funds for purchasing. She also added that there are a lot of grant opportunities for
natural service trails, and the direction they go with it will be up to the BOCC. Marabeth informed the Board that this
will go to the BOCC on May 161h and that they were encouraged to attend. Marabeth stated that there is an
Environmental advisory board and suggested the OUTBoard could write a letter of recommendation regarding the
trail to them. Marabeth explained that the biggest issue is how many different properties the trail goes through and
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there's been a lot of controversy. Heidi Perry asked how much of the trail had already been developed, to which
Marabeth informed her it was a little over halfway completed.
AGENDA ITEM 5: REGULAR OUTBOARD AGENDA (ACTION ITEMS)
AGENDA ITEM 5A. DRAFT TRANSPORTATION PROJECT PRIORITY LIST (MAX BUSHELL)
Max Bushell presented
Heidi Perry asked if there was a better chance of getting projects done if they submitted fewer of them. Matt Day
explained that they're going to go through the same scoring process and that the MPO and RPO are going to want to
submit as many projects as they can. Heidi inquired about Asheville and how they got their funding for their greenway
projects. Art Menius said they switched designated responsibility for their greenways from the city's park and
recreation department to the city's department of transportation. Heidi Perry inquired about the widening on NC 54
not being submitted. Max Bushell explained that it was a sibling project and it'll automatically carry over to this
prioritization process. Ted Triebel asked if they expected that these projects would not score well again. Max Bushell
explained that they're changing the scoring criteria slightly as opposed to last time, so hopefully that will boost the
project scores for some of the projects. He added that the area is continuing to grow and develop and the roads in
question are going to continue to be more congested, so these projects can be considered as local priorities and will
likely have higher congestion than before. This will increase the score. Heidi Perry requested adding a round -about to
the bike lane project along Old NC 86. Max mentioned that he will add the roundabout in Calvander at the
intersection of Old NC 86 and Homestead Road /Dairyland Road as a separate project. Alex Castro asked if there
was consistency in the 4 -foot shoulders on the Old NC 86 project or if it will only be two feet in some places. He
added that this had been a problem before. Max Bushell explained said he thinks that that is a project scope and
funding issue and that a two foot shoulder is more feasible than a four -foot shoulder, as constructing a four foot
shoulder would require moving the ditch. Matt Day added that it makes a project more difficult if there's a ditch that
they have to move to make the shoulder four feet, which is why the shoulder is so narrow in some places. Alex
Castro also mentioned a concern about having a four -foot shoulder and then adding rumble strips, which defeats the
purpose of adding the shoulder for cyclists. Matt Day said they now have bicycle friendly rumble strips, where it's
either where the paint stripe is rather than on the shoulder, or that there are gaps to allow bicyclists to access the
travel lane.
MOTION by Ted Triebel to recommended the list to the BOCC. Seconded by Art Menius.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
AGENDA ITEM 6: INFORMATIONAL ITEMS
6A. CARRBORO TO HILLSBOROUGH MULTI -USE PATH UPDATE - (MAX BUSHELL)
Max Bushell presented
Heidi Perry mentioned that during a previous discussion regarding the bike lanes on Old NC Hwy 86 it was said that
they thought the shoulders would work well for strong cyclists. However, due to the fact that it would bring tourists, a
separated bike lane would be preferred. She added that it wouldn't have to run parallel with the road, and it would
have a lot of merit as a bicycle tourism destination. Art Menius stated that NC Hwy 86 has much higher speeds than
Old 86. Heidi Perry also suggested using Duke Energy easements. Max Bushell said that's something that's typically
done in cities, but hasn't been explored much in counties. Heidi asked if it could be funded with DOT funding that
way. Max said it could, but it would still require the same 20% local match and local administration. Heidi asked what
they could do to see if it was a feasible idea. Max said a feasibility study would be a good place to start, but doubts
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105 the County would fund that. He added that he found one source from Asheville that used funding of $75,000 for a
106 feasibility study as a rule of thumb. Heidi asked if there were grants for those and if grant money could be used for
107 the 20% match. Max said grant money for that could conceivably come through the MPO but there's already one
108 corridor study being done in Orange County, so programming another study from MPO funds may have to wait. He
109 added that grant money could be used for the 20% match.
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112 AGENDA ITEM 7: STAFF UPDATES
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114 7A. ORANGE COUNTY& NCDOT MEETING NOTES - (ABIGAILE PITTMAN)
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116 Abigaile Pittman reviewed the item
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118 Ted Triebel inquired if there was agreement that the fence needs to get done. Max Bushell confirmed that they did
119 agree that the fence should be done, but they are struggling to find the funding. Heidi Perry asked when the next
120 contact is to find out how that's going. Max Bushell said that they would continue to follow up with them the next few
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123 713. BURLINGTON - GRAHAM METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION (BGMPO) MARCH 21, 2017 MEETING UPDATED -
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128 the Burlington — Graham Metropolitan Planning Organization on March 21sI.pscket
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132 7C. BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS (BOCC) UPDATES - (ABIGAILE PITTMAN, MAX BUSHELL)
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134 Abigaile Pittman reviewed the item, referencing the memorandum in the agenda packet.
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138 AGENDA ITEM 8: BOARD COMMENTS
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142 AGENDA ITEM 9: ADJOURNMENT
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144 OUTBoard meeting was adjourned by consensus.
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Heidi Perry, Chair