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ORANGE COUNTY ASSEMBLY OF GOVERNMENTS
SEPTEMBER 30, 1993
The Orange County Assembly of Governments meeting was held on Thursday,
September 30, 1993 at the University Presbyterian Church, 309 E. Franklin Street,
Chapel Hill, North Carolina.
COUNTY ** ISSI* SENT: Chair Moses Carey, Jr. , Commissioners Verla
Insko and Alice Gordon.
COUNTY 00 ISSI ' m' ABSENT: Commissioner Stephen Halkiotis.
' " :*' * OF ID " SENT: Alderman Hilliard Caldwell and Mayor
Eleanor Kinnaird.
S 'EL HILL $ as CIL " SD : Council members Mark Chilton and Joyce
Brown.
HILLS:W' s CSI BO, ' 0 OF ois ISSI$ DI PRESENT: Mayor Horace Johnson and
Commissioner Bob Rose.
I ' SD CTION: Council member Joyce Brown welcomed the audience and introduced
the steering committee for this event. David Godschalk, Professor of Planning
at the University of North Carolina, introduced Dr. John DeGrove, the Director
of Florida Atlantic University/Florida International University Joint Center for
Environmental and Urban Problems.
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Dr. DeGrove stated that there was not one "solution" to the issue of growth
management. These are complicated issues which must be discussed openly.
Discomfort will result from this discussion, however, that is a necessary part
of the creation of a countywide land use plan. He indicated that there are
certain issues that all regions have in common. Some of those issues are land
use planning, water/sewer, surface/air transportation, solid waste, affordable
housing, and endangered species. It is vital that there be a countywide plan and
a regional plan. Even where a countywide plan is in place and working well, it
can become nonfunctional if the region's plans are in opposition to the county's
plan. A review of several regional plans from across the nation made clear the
common concerns and issues.
ATLANTA ' D IONAL *$ ISSION: Georgia has adopted a statewide growth management
system. They have come to realize that planning in isolation, or using "home
rule" does not work.
SAN DID** ASSOCIATION OF GO D I IN S: DeGrove indicated that this Association
was not an especially strong organization until they were recommended to be the
Regional Planning and Growth Management Board and with that title they were also
given authority. This was critical to their mission of being a well planned
community.
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DANE COUNTY: This community is similar to Orange County in that the rural
community is not overly supportive of the urban population. The elected
officials are working toward reaching consensus and they are making progress
toward a county-wide growth strategy.
Dr. DeGrove indicated that having a vision for future growth is absolutely
necessary for the planning process. He suggested gathering all of the key
stakeholders to focus on the vision for the future. After the vision is in place
land development regulations will move in that direction. A consensus of
stakeholders is painful to build but essential for success.
A,SAPL, I. BAY: This area has six linked visions. Development is concentrated
in suitable areas which allows for more sensitive areas to be protected. Growth
is directed to existing population areas which helps protect resource areas.
Comprehensive planning is critical for the overall health of any community as it
grows and develops into the future. Protecting the environment can be
accomplished only through regional and statewide planning.
ORANGE COUNTY: A comprehensive, coordinated regional growth strategy is vital.
Universities must be included in the growth management system and must help
devise a way to offset the infrastructure demands. This "offset" needs to be
mandated. Concurrence also needs to be mandated. Communities must determine
to "pay as they grow" and not assume that growth pays for itself because it often
does not. A fair system of Transferrable Development Rights (TDR) is also
critical to future planning. There are many clear signals regarding what is the
right thing to do. Leadership is needed in order for communities to move in that
direction.
Dr. DeGrove completed his presentation and introduced the panelists. A
complete listing of the panelists follows:
Moses Carey, Orange County Commissioner
David Godschalk, Professor of Planning
Joe Hackney, NC State Representative
Paul Hardin, UNC-CH Chancellor
Bob Hogan, Farmer/Developer
Sally Jessee Brown, President, Marin Properties
John Link, Orange County Manager
Bob Rose, Hillsborough Town Commissioner
Allen Spalt, Citizen Activist
Bill Strom, Citizen Activist
Elizabeth Walters, Dairy Farmer
Stick Williams, Area Manager, Duke Power Company
In response to the question "is there a future for agriculture in Orange
County?", the following responses were given:
Elizabeth Walters commented that rural Orange County does have problems.
The Agricultural Districts Advisory Board, of which she is a member, has compiled
suggestions for the Board of County Commissioners. Those suggestions will be
presented to the Board in the near future. Special zoning for "agricultural
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priority areas" in order to direct growth away from agricultural areas is one of
those suggestions.
Bob Hogan commented that the areas around Chapel Hill which are suitable
for farming are already developed beyond the point of needing this type of
planning.
Commissioner Carey stated that a vision has been talked about for years.
Discussion has been ongoing about Transferable Development Rights (TDR) and
Purchased Development Rights (TDR). The breakdown occurs when decisions are
being approached about "sending" and "receiving" areas. The issue of
jurisdictional lines and how to transfer across those lines is always a challenge
to resolve. After that is resolved it will be necessary to determined how to
finance the transferring of these development rights.
Dr. DeGrove recommended a solution to the issue of jurisdictional lines
which is being used in some areas. That would be to establish a multi-
jurisdictional Commission and to request power from the Legislature so that the
jurisdictional lines are not at issue. He stressed that it was critical to
actually reach closure rather than to stop short of final resolution. He also
suggested that the counties and municipalities consider changing from a
"Dillion's Rule" form of government which requires that the Legislature give
permission for all changes.
Rep. Joe Hackney indicated that the "Dillion's Rule" is not the issue here.
The Legislature grants almost all Board of Commissioners requests.
Sallee Jesse Brown commented that "infill" has been considered unacceptable
in Orange County. She would like to see higher density be permitted in
appropriate locations.
Allan Spalt stated that a clear vision is lacking for this community.
Dr. DeGrove indicated that although sprawl may initially appear to be less
expensive, in the longer view it is much more affordable to repair and upgrade
older infrastructure than it is to allow sprawl.
Commissioner Rose indicated that although Hillsborough is in better
financial shape than it has been in the past, it needs to increase its tax base
in order to survive.
John Link indicated that Orange County, Carrboro, Hillsborough and Chapel
Hill have been working together over the past several years. Learning to "reason
together" is an ongoing goal. He indicated that within the next 9 months the
county will address many issues, including the following:
rural character study
volunteer farmland preservation programs
-a Purchased Development Rights (PDR) proposal with a land evaluation system to
protect the proper farms will be presented to the county
a growth impact analysis to determine which kinds of growth will be positive
economic district proposals
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Much dialogue is needed during these upcoming months. The University is also a
major stakeholders and needs to be included in the dialogue.
Chancellor Hardin commented on the issue of the University helping to pay
for infrastructure. He stated that all of the concerned parties need to go to
the General Assembly together and ask for the infrastructure. At the present
time the University is involving the community as well as units of government in
an ongoing dialogue concerning the future plans for the Horace Williams Airport
property. The University wants to grow responsibly. He indicated that the
Legislature needs to be included in the current conversation between the
university and local elected officials.
Stick Williams indicated that Duke Power is developing a good relationship
with the university and local governments. He commented that a county vision
will be difficult to accomplish because often the most vocal citizens direct what
happens regardless of what appears to be the best course of action. He asked
that we remember that the University is the reason most of us are in this
community. It is a state resource and having a veto power over one of the
engines that causes the state to grow could be disastrous.
Chancellor Hardin indicated that the passage of the $300 million dollar
bond is critical to the future of the university as well as local community
colleges, state parks and water and sewer.
Neil Pedersen stated that communities need to cease being in reaction mode
about building schools and future housing development.
Commissioner Gordon stated that the Transportation Advisory Committee is
attempting to develop a multiemodal approach including bikeways and pedestrian
pathways. The Department of Transportation (DOT) is not responsive to local
requests. Commissioner Rose agreed that DOT is unresponsive and asked what could
be done.
Dr. DeGrove suggested contacting the Governor.
Rep. Joe Hackney indicated that DOT is attempting to be more responsive.
The Triangle Transit Authority (TTA) is planning for light rail. DOT has
historically been a highway agency. This is changing, however, it will not
change swiftly. The TTA is working toward this end.
Dr. DeGrove stated that Greenways and Open Space must be purchased.
Affordable housing and the purchase of environmentally sensitive land is
necessary for the health of a community. This will require matching funds from
the state. The Nature Conservancy is in a position to gather information on
where the public stands on these issues. People will vote to purchase the land
if they understand what is at stake.
David Godschalk indicated that the lack of consensus between the
rural/urban residents prevents many necessary solutions from being implemented
including greenways. A process must be implemented which would allow consensus
between rural/urban residents to be reached. A comprehensive plan for the county
needs to be in place so that each proposed development does not lead to a major
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fight. Sustainability in regard to the balancing of all of these components is
also necessary. Clarity about our urban areas and what they will be like needs
to exist. We must educate the public regarding high density, infill and mixed
use. All of these terms have undeserved negative connotations in Orange County.
Lastly, movement systems are necessary for a healthy, vibrant future community.
The remaining panelists added the following to the list of concerns:
*rezoning needs to be enabling rather than defensive.
*future development must include the participation of all of the people
involved.
*stamina and empathy are necessary ingredients of consensus building.
*commitment to the "process".
*remember the regional perspective. Involve the state.
*include planning for economic growth.
*rural residents, both farmers and non-farmers, need to be heard.
*watershed protection/funding by state.
*reach consensus between tax base and economic development prior to
decisions been made.
It was suggested that the "Shaping. Orange County Steering Committee" which
was established by the Public Private Partnership, could be used to help reach
consensus on a county-wide vision. Sallee Jesse Brown stated that the first
subcommittee meeting will be October 28th. The meeting will be open to the
public and all comments are welcome. The first meeting will focus on the
Steering Comlittee's vision.
There being no further comments the meeting was adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
Kathleen Baker
Deputy Clerk to the Board
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