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MINUTES
BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
Work Session
October 6, 2016
7:00 p.m.
The Orange County Board of Commissioners met in a work session on Thursday, October 6,
2016 at 7:00 p.m. at the Whitted Building, Hillsborough, N.C. immediately following the
adjournment of the Joint Meeting with the Fire Chiefs' Council.
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Chair McKee and Commissioners Mia Burroughs,
Mark Dorosin, Barry Jacobs, Bernadette Pelissier, Renee Price and Penny Rich
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ABSENT:
COUNTY ATTORNEYS PRESENT: John Roberts
COUNTY STAFF PRESENT: County Manager Bonnie Hammersley, Deputy Manager Travis
Myren and Clerk to the Board Donna Baker (All other staff members will be identified
appropriately below).
Chair McKee called the meeting to order at 8:52 p.m.
1. Detention Center: Update on Project Schedule and Discussion of Potential Scope
Expansion to Include Law Enforcement Center/Sheriff's Offices
BACKGROUND:
After authorizing the Manager to engage Moseley Architects as the designer for the Detention
Center project in the summer of 2015, initial project vision planning, comprehensive
stakeholder input sessions, the jail population profile, and projections for future growth were
conducted in the fall of 2015.
Subsequent schematic programming and planning activities were halted in the fall of 2015 in
order to process an amendment to the County's Ground Lease with the State of North Carolina
enabling the County to provide the built detention facility as collateral for standard project debt
financing. This amendment was successfully achieved through enabling legislation approved
by the State Legislature in the summer of 2016. The County is currently awaiting an executed
lease amendment from the State and will fully resume planning and design efforts once this
fully executed amendment is returned to the County.
Based upon the receipt of the executed Lease Agreement Amendment in October 2016, the
projected timeline for this project is as follows:
Activity Estimated Date Range
BOCC: Construction Manager at October-November, 2016
Risk Award
Schematic and Developmental Fall-Winter, 2016-2017
Design Preparations with Board and
Stakeholder Review/Feedback
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BOCC: Approval of Final Design, Summer-Fall, 2017
Guaranteed Maximum Price
Permitting, State Review, Fall 2017 — Summer 2019
Construction Period (16-20 months)
Occupation Fall-Winter, 2019
Concurrent to this process, staff was requested to provide information to the Board regarding a
potential scope expansion of the project to include the co-location of a Law Enforcement
Center/Sheriff's Offices ("LEC") with the proposed Detention Center. Staff proposes that this
scope discussion include three options:
1) Standalone Detention Center only — This option represents the current project scope
as contained in the County's Capital Investment Plan (CIP).
2) Detention Center with co-located LEC — This option would construct new
administrative office space on the Detention Center site and relocate the Sheriff's
administrative offices from the courthouse to the Detention Center.
3) Detention Center with infrastructure for future co-located LEC — This option would
prepare the Detention Center site and install appropriate utilities and infrastructure for a
colocation of the Sheriff's administrative offices on the Detention Center site at some
point in the future.
If the Board of Commissioners authorizes further analysis of these options, staff recommends
five evaluation criteria to inform the decision making process. These factors include:
1) Cost of Construction
2) Staffing (Detention and LEC)
3) Operations and Maintenance (Detention and LEC)
4) Court operations support and security
5) "Backfill" options for potentially vacated spaces within the Justice Facility
A matrix of general information regarding the three development options as well as
comparative topics to be addressed in the Designer's analysis for each of the five decision
factors is attached. This will be presented in an effort to encourage Board discussion and
feedback to staff.
Jeff Thompson, Director of Asset Management Services, made the following
PowerPoint presentation:
Detention Center Update
Board of Orange County Commissioners
Work Session
October 6, 2016
Purpose
• to receive an update on the Detention Center project schedule; and
• To discuss and provide feedback to staff regarding a potential project scope expansion
to move the existing Sheriff's Office administrative offices from the lower level of the
courthouse to a co-located Law Enforcement Center on the new jail site. Court security
staff would maintain offices in the courthouse.
Activities to Date
• Extensive stakeholder input
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• Jail population profile and projections for future growth;
• Preliminary schematic design and space programming;
• Further design work is on hold until the execution of the ground lease amendment;
• Staffing study in progress
General Schedule of Events
Activity Estimated Date Range
BOCC: Construction Manager at October-November, 2016
Risk Award
Schematic and Developmental Fall-Winter, 2016-2017
Design Preparations with Board and
Stakeholder Review/Feedback
BOCC: Approval of Final Design, Summer-Fall, 2017
Guaranteed Maximum Price
Permitting, State Review, Fall 2017 — Summer 2019
Construction Period (16-20 months)
Occupation Fall-Winter, 2019
Jeff Thompson said staff is waiting on the execution of the lease from the State, and
there is a staffing study for the facility that is in progress.
John Roberts said he has contacted the General Counsel for the Department of
Administration with the State, seeking help to move things along, but has received no
response. He said he will call again next week.
Chair McKee said he would contact their Legislative Delegation to try and get this
executed.
Jeff Thompson reviewed the following information:
Options and General Information to Assist in Board Discussion
Detention Center Detention Center with Detention Center
Only built, co-located Law with LEC
Enforcement Center infrastructure for
(LEC) future co-location
General Facility Current detention Current LEC facility
Information facility information: information:
Original Constructed/renovation
construction: 1925 : 2009
Capacity: 139 Estimated Project Cost:
Detainees $5MM
Square Footage: Square Footage:
40,227 20,000
Area: 1.4 acres
Design Process Yes No No
Currently
Authorized by
BOCC
Schematic Secure 144 bed Detention Center with Detention Center
Characteristics facility with "core" additional with prepared
infrastructure for estimated12,000- additional site and
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250 bed maximum 18,000 square feet of infrastructure
capacity; LEC space connections for
approximately z
future LEC
49,500-52,200
square feet of
Detention Center
space; 6.8 acre
site
Conceptual Project Est. $17.6-$19.9 tbd tbd
"First Cost" million
Estimates
Travis Myren reviewed the following information:
Operational Factors Detention Center Detention Center with Detention Center
and needed analysis Only built, co-located Law with LEC
Enforcement Center(LEC) infrastructure for
future co-location
-Construction Cost -Additional first cost and life
cycle impact
-Life cycle cost impacts
-Staffing -Staffing study -Potential staffing impacts
anticipated Fall 2016 on both the spindle and rear
comparing spindle vs. chase designs options.
rear chase design
options.
-Operations and -Significant -Potential Impacts on
Maintenance improvements in efficiencies for both
programming, operations and maintenance
housing conditions, activities.
workplace safety and -Potential sustainability
security, and impacts associated with co-
maintenance of location.
operations equipment.
-Additional
improvements
anticipated in facilities
maintenance activities
due to new facility and
modern equipment.
-Court Operations -Court staff -Potential Impacts of co-
Support and Security unchanged. location on opportunity of
-Efficiency Court staff to be housed in
improvements with close proximity within a co-
video-conferencing located facility.
technology within
Court facilities and
detention pods for
Court officials and
detainees.
-Designed multi-
purpose room can
serve as court space.
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-"Backfill" options for 3
Analysis of Potential Uses
vacated LEC facilities -Child Support Services;
-Probation and Parole;
-Public Defender;
-District Attorney;
-Justice Resource Office;
Chair McKee said he had talked with some judges, who also indicated a possible desire
for space.
Travis Myren said all stakeholders would be contacted.
Recommendations
• to receive an update on the Detention Center project schedule;
• to discuss and provide feedback to staff regarding a potential project scope expansion
to include co-located Law Enforcement Center facilities; and
• Should the Board reach a consensus on the project scope expansion, the Manager will
sign an amendment with Moseley Architects to analyze the implications of adding a
Law Enforcement Center to the current Detention Center project at a cost not to exceed
$30,000.
Commissioner Dorosin referred to the slide with possible co-location and its impacts,
and asked if this would be a co-location at the new jail or current Sheriff's space.
Travis Myren said the court administration would stay at the courthouse, and he said
the co-location questions would be if there are any impacts on court operations by moving the
administrative capacity of the Sheriff's office away from the court operations.
Commissioner Dorosin said a co-location and an un-colocation would occur, if the
change is made.
Travis Myren said both options need to be studied to get a balanced view.
Sheriff Blackwood said this would not be a wholesale pulling out of the Sheriff's office
from the courthouse, and he would like to talk to each Commissioner individually about current
operations in the Sheriff's office, and how they would change in a LEC co-location. He
reviewed how the operations located at the current court facility would move to the new
detention center. He said not having support staff in the new detention center would make
managing the inmates more difficult. He said his office would do its best wherever it is located.
Commissioner Jacobs asked Travis Myren if there will be a cost analysis done for
future co-location.
Travis Myren said both options would be studied: the immediately built law enforcement
center, and the infrastructure layout for future expansion. He said both could be studied
together or separately.
Commissioner Jacobs referred to the analysis of potential uses of the Law Enforcement
Center, and asked if probation and parole, the magistrate, etc. would also be co-located in the
detention facility regardless.
Travis Myren said with the current detention facility layout the Magistrates are included,
but Probation and Parole are not.
Commissioner Jacobs said he would like to see some support services, which would
benefit from being located near the jail population, included.
Sheriff Blackwood said the feedback he is getting from probation and parole is that they
are best located in the courthouse.
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Commissioner Jacobs said he got the opposite information from one of the Judges. He
said he also has concern about the Sheriff's office not being in the courthouse.
Sheriff Blackwood said his department's work is not in the courthouse, but out in the
field.
Chair McKee said he thought there would be meeting rooms and access for
probation/parole to talk with their clients at the detention center, but that the department would
not actually be housed there.
Commissioner Jacobs said the possibility of meeting facilities, for mental health officials
to meet with clients at the new detention center, was also discussed. He said this must be
considered wholistically, locating as many services at one site as possible to more effectively
serve this population.
The Board agreed by consensus to direct staff to proceed on the project scope
expansion, and approve the Manager to sign an amendment with Moseley Architects to
analyze the implications of adding a Law Enforcement Center to the current Detention Center
project at a cost not to exceed $30,000.
Commissioner Dorosin asked Commissioner Jacobs and Commissioner Pelissier if the
Jail Alternatives group is in favor of locating the Sheriff's Office at the new Detention Center.
Commissioner Pelissier said space issues were not discussed at the Criminal Justice
Advisory Council, but the Judges wanted a space-needs study completed. She said she
thought such a study would address this.
Commissioner Jacobs said spacing was discussed pertaining to reducing the size of
the overall facility, as related to the prisoners. He said when Sheriff Blackwood joined the
group, this issue had already been discussed, and the moving of the Sheriff's Office did not
come up until much later.
Commissioner Jacobs said he and Commissioner Pelissier did talk to Jeff Thompson
about the interacting components and how they may work, which is when he started hearing
from the Judges, and when Sheriff Blackwood came up with a different scenario about moving
the Sheriff's Office.
Chair McKee said he had the opportunity to talk to two Judges who said if the detention
center was built, and the Sheriff's Office moved, there would be more space in the court for the
court activities. He said the Judges were not promoting the removal of the Sheriff's Office, but
if space were available in the courthouse, they would be interested.
Commissioner Jacobs said he assumed the old jail, and how to use it, will be
addressed.
Bonnie Hammersley said staff met with the Town of Hillsborough to begin this
discussion and will be bring this item back at a later time.
2. Discussion of Body-Worn Cameras
BACKGROUND:
At the May 5, 2016 Board of Orange County Commissioners meeting, Commissioner Mark
Dorosin submitted a petition requesting that the Board discuss, with Orange County Sheriff
Charles S. Blackwood, adopting a policy to institute the use of body-worn cameras by
Deputies. Body-worn camera usage is a topic that has been in the national spotlight in recent
years due to officer-involved shootings. Although believed to be a panacea for reducing
distrust of law enforcement and incidents of unnecessary use of force, the use of body-worn
cameras is surrounded by a number of outstanding questions. Unfortunately, little research
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exists to assist law enforcement leaders to decide whether to join a growing minority of
agencies that are implementing use of body-worn cameras.
Commissioner Dorosin said this has become a critical issue in our society as of late,
and there were some discussions about a year ago at the Rogers-Eubanks Neighborhood
Association (RENA) center about community and police relations. He said as these
conversations continue this issue of body cameras keeps coming up.
Commissioner Dorosin said Carrboro was about to adopt a body camera policy, but a
state law was passed, which has not completely pre-empted the use of body cameras, but has
put some limitations on the use.
Commissioner Dorosin said the first step is to have a philosophical discussion about the
value of having body cameras as pertains to what takes place between law enforcement and
citizens. He said he would like to pursue the issue of wearing body cameras, and he is
interested in the Sheriff's opinion, and how the State law impacts this analysis.
Sheriff Blackwood said he is aware of what is going on in many communities, and, in
large part, the community that would benefit from increased trust is not the community that
causes the uproar when shootings occur. He said his philosophical approach to this topic is
based in Graham v. Conner, which happened in Charlotte, NC. He said this case guaranteed
that an officer will be judged by the "officer-on-the-scene" standard and not 20/20 hindsight,
with the reasonable objectiveness that the officer has to make split decisions where
circumstances are tense, uncertain and rapidly evolving. He said this perspective evaporates
when a camera comes into play, as it allows for 20/20 hindsight. He said this discussion has
gone up and down with sheriffs all over the State. He said he does not have the answer to
what should be done. He said the legislation was poorly written, despite having been drafted
by two former members of law enforcement, but it is a starting point. He said if the shooting in
Charlotte had happened today the video would not be released, due to the new State law. He
said this is weighing heavy on him. He said in order to do this right the County should wait to
see the final legislation on body cams. He said the cost of the equipment is becoming more
affordable, but the cost for storage is huge.
Sheriff Blackwood said he wanted to do the right thing with body cameras, and the
purchase and use of them.
Chair McKee asked if the Sheriff's office has any equipment now.
Sheriff Blackwood said there are in-car video cameras, and if the Board funds one,
then it should fund both cameras. He said the two cameras do different jobs, and to get the
best footage both cameras must be present.
He said his department is blessed to be in Orange County, and they are one of the only
Departments in the State that has standards in place for their deputies.
Sheriff Blackwood said he is not ready to accept body cameras yet, but he will continue
to talk and work with the BOCC.
Chair McKee asked if the in-car cameras are forward or forward and rear looking, and if
the body cameras are on the vest.
Sheriff Blackwood said there are many configurations, and the body camera can be on
the eyepiece, which is the most optimal location for a body camera. He said the car cameras
are forward looking, but can also view someone being transported in the back of a vehicle.
Commissioner Burroughs said she wanted to know more about costs.
Sheriff Blackwood said the costs of the cameras are between $20 and $60 each, with
packaging including 5-year warranties and replacement cameras. He said 20 cameras would
be $44,588, and 60 cameras would be $134,660.
Sheriff Blackwood said unlimited cloud is very expensive, with a retention schedule
from 30 days up to 20 years. He said the Sheriff Association is undecided as to whether the
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State should be allowed to set standards regarding the issue of equipment. He said this is not
done with firearms, uniforms, cars, etc.
Sheriff Blackwood said the camera issue is a big one, and the legislation has to be re-
written.
Commissioner Burroughs asked if the retention timeframes are best practices only.
Sheriff Blackwood said yes. He said the cost for unlimited cloud for 20 cameras, for
one year would be $105,800, and for 60 cameras would be $315,560.
Commissioner Burroughs said the first year would be about $500,000, and the most
costs come with the storage.
Sheriff Blackwood said yes.
Commissioner Jacobs thanked the Sheriff for sharing his honest thoughts. He said the
issue of cost is more troubling than the actual concept of the body cameras, and it is probably
too late since the public will expect law enforcement to have body cameras.
Commissioner Jacobs said he would encourage the Sheriff to think this through, but he
believes it is likely unavoidable.
Sheriff Blackwood said he knows the legislation will probably require body cameras.
Commissioner Jacobs said long term it will be to the benefit for law enforcement to
have body cameras.
Sheriff Blackwood said there are more reasons to have them than not.
Commissioner Pelissier asked if anything else is being considered to build and/or keep
trust between the community and law enforcement.
Sheriff Blackwood said that is the purpose of the community discussions.
Commissioner Rich said she is conflicted with the General Assembly saying what can
and cannot be done.
Sheriff Blackwood said the mechanism is there to have footage released, it just
requires a court order.
Commissioner Rich said if and when cameras are used, she wanted to make sure the
best equipment is secured.
Commissioner Price said she respected the Sheriff and his point of view, but there is
always the potential for an officer(s) that probably should never have been hired. She said for
the safety of citizens, and to protect their own officers, body cameras are needed.
Commissioner Dorosin said this is a national issue of trust/distrust. He said it is critical
to have body cameras/video as another evidentiary tool. He said there is a racial component
to this discussion as well. He wanted to know if it is the will of this Board to have these
cameras, and what needs to be done to address the Sheriff's concerns.
Sheriff Blackwood said he would like the BOCC to commit to him that his department
will not have to give up the car cameras, that each officer receives a body camera, and that he
will not get crucified if he does not release a video, per the legislation.
Commissioner Dorosin said these requests seem eminently reasonable to him.
Commissioner Burroughs said she felt that costs should not be a barrier to purchasing
and implementing body cameras. She is in favor of moving forward.
Commissioner Rich said as the issue moves forward, she asked Sheriff Blackwood to
continue to share his concerns if any come up. She said there must be mutual trust.
Commissioner Jacobs said he supported the conversation thus far, and he suggested
the Sheriff come back with a more concrete cost proposal.
Sheriff Blackwood said he has reached out to other sheriffs and has been in touch with
vendors.
Commissioner Jacobs said with the issue of releasing videos, they should come up with
a policy together on this topic, if the law remains the same. He said the Board may want the
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Sheriff to request a Judge's permission to release a video. He said the Sheriff has more
knowledge than any attorney about law enforcement.
Commissioner Price said it is important that all understand she is coming from a
different perspective. She said she has been stopped for walking twice in Orange County, and
once in Charlotte. She said something needs to be done, and the body cameras will help.
She is supportive of the usage of these sooner rather than later.
Chair McKee asked if Sheriff Blackwood would work with management about pricing,
and get figures back to the BOCC to make a decision with him, not for him.
Commissioner Dorosin said the hour is late.
3. Written Consent to Search Requirement for Law Enforcement
BACKGROUND:
At the September 6, 2016 Board of Commissioners' ("BOCC") meeting, Commissioner Mark
Dorosin submitted a petition that the topic of written consent to search be discussed at an
upcoming BOCC work session. Some law enforcement agencies in North Carolina, including
the Durham, Greensboro, and Fayetteville Police Departments have adopted policies requiring
police to obtain written consent to search. Both federal and State law, however, allow consent
to be provided in writing, orally, or by other means, as long as the expression of consent
communicates its meaning clearly.
Proponents of requiring use of written consent to search forms assert that this measure is
necessary given statistics that seem to indicate that minorities are disproportionately more
likely to be stopped and searched than white drivers. Meanwhile, concern has been voiced
from law enforcement that such a requirement would negatively affect their ability to engage in
efforts to combat crime and ensure public safety.
Commissioner Dorosin said this is an important tool they should adopt. He said this
goes a long way to building trust and a tool in the service of law enforcement. He urged the
Sheriff's Department to adopt this and his peers to support it.
Sheriff Blackwood said written consent to search was used in the 1980s, but it went
away because attorneys started instructing law enforcement that written or verbal consent can
be used to search, as long as the consent was clear. He talked to retired law enforcement,
who said they would feel less safe if this was implemented.
He said he would not adopt the policy, but when feasible, he would require his deputies
to use the written consent form. He said if this practice is abused, there will be camera records
to show it. He said if there are complaints to searches, he would address them.
Chair McKee asked Commissioner Dorosin if there is probable cause to search, then
the written consent is not used, or necessary.
Commissioner Dorosin said the written consent is for when there is not probable cause
to search.
Jennifer Galassi, Legal Advisor to the Sheriff's Office, said that is not necessarily
always the case, as sometimes written consent is received even when there is probable cause.
She said getting the consent facilitates law enforcement's ability to things more expeditiously.
She said if consent is received, the interaction tends to be more cooperative. She said law
enforcement does not have to inform the person in question that there is the right to give
written consent, and the prosecution does not have to prove the person in question knew that
written consent existed.
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Commissioner Dorosin said if people know they can say no, they will say no, and while
the right exists, law enforcement does not want them to say no. He feels law enforcement
should inform the person in question that they can give written consent or refuse the search.
Jennifer Galassi said there is a notion that the idea of consent is being substituted for
the idea of reasonableness, which is the touchstone of the fourth amendment.
Commissioner Jacobs asked if one does not give consent, can an officer say there is
probable cause to search, or does the refusal to consent halt the interaction.
Jennifer Galassi said if there is truly no probable cause, then yes the interaction should
end upon refusal to consent.
Commissioner Jacobs said watching TV and movies have polluted his view of all of this.
He said the question for him is how well do people know their rights, and how obligated is law
enforcement to inform them.
Commissioner Jacobs said this is a more difficult issue than the body cameras for him.
He told Commissioner Dorosin that he appreciated the topic being brought up and suggested
re-visiting this. He said he thought body cameras would help, and would like to check back
with the Sheriff to see how his proposed practice is working. He would also like to hear
updates from those working in the civil rights movement.
Commissioner Jacobs said he wanted to respect the Sheriff's prerogatives and his
staff.
Sheriff Blackwood said he will provide the BOCC with a breakdown of the searches that
have consent and those that do not.
Chair McKee agreed with Commissioner Jacobs.
Commissioner Dorosin said the Board should review the data from Bumgarner and
have this discussion.
Commissioner Jacobs said to ask Sheriff to analyze the stops.
Sheriff Blackwood said they met with Mr. Bumgarner to ask him to analyze their
searches since Sheriff Blackwood has been in office, as well as searches broken down by
officer. He said the collection of data is confusing and complicated.
Jennifer Galassi presented the data from the period of two years prior to December
2014, and the 20 months since then.
Commissioner Rich asked if this data should be weighted due to the larger white
population, as compared to the black population.
Jennifer Galassi said that is difficult because the people being ticketed are not even
residents.
Sheriff Blackwood said they are trying to correlate better data sets to be collected,
including where people live, the race of the officer, etc. He said they have been challenged to
come up with four categories to check, which are currently not being checked. He said these
are interesting numbers, but this is not indicative of what is really going on, as all stops do not
require documentation. He would support changing this practice, and collecting data on every
interaction: who was stopped, why they were stopped, what was the outcome, was there a
bias involved in the stop, etc.
Commissioner Jacobs asked if data for Hispanics could be collected as well.
Chair McKee said this all boils down to having trust in the Orange County Sheriff's
office, and he does trust them.
Commissioner Jacobs suggested bringing this information back at the February 16th
work session.
Sheriff Blackwood said he does care about civil liberties, and his department has to use
the law that is given to it, and keep working together towards a better place.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:47 p.m.
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Earl McKee, Chair
Donna Baker
Clerk to the Board