HomeMy WebLinkAboutAgenda - 12-19-1985 ORANGE COUNTY
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CHATHAM COUNTY
BOARDS OF COMMISSIONERS
AGENDA
SPECIAL MEETING
THURSDAY DECEMBER 19, 1985
WESTERN STEER RESTAURANT
COLE PLAZA, CHATHAM COUNTY
7:30 P.M
A. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION/DECISION
1. Geographic Area and Population Designation--Job
Training Partnership Act
2. County Boundary Line
3. Widening Lystra Road
4. Jordan Lake Water Allocation
5. University Watershed
6. Human Services
B. ADJ URNMENT
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APPROVED 2/18/86
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ORANGE COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
SPECIAL MEETING
DECEMBER 19, 1985
The Orange County and Chatham County Board of Commissioners met in
joint session on December 19, 1985, 7:30 p.m. in Chatham County at the
Western Steer Restaurant in Cole Plaza.
ORANGE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Chair Don Willhoit and
Commissioners Shirley Marshall, Moses Carey, Ben Lloyd and Norman Walker.
CHATHAM COUNTY COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Chair Earl Thompson, and
• Commissioners W. W. Lutterloh, Gus Murchison, Carl Thompson and Henry
Dunlap.
ORANGE COUNTY STAFF PRESENT: County Manager Kenneth R. Thompson,
Assistant County; Managers Albert Kittrell and William Laws, Clerk to the
Board Beverly A. Blythe, Commission for Women Coordinator Verla Insko and
Land Records Manager Roscoe Reeve.
CHATHAM COUNTY STAFF PRESENT: County Manager Marvin K. Hoffman, and
Clerk to the Board Hazel Boone.
Don Willhoit made opening remarks and outlined the items for
discussion/decision. He noted that the Joint Training Partnership Act
(JTPA) for the Sarvice Delivery Area (SDA) designation for Orange County
was tabled at the Board meeting held on December 17, so that input could
be received from; Chatham County. Also, it is hoped that a consensus can
be reached on the County line along with the discussion of several other
items of mutual interest.
A. ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION/DECISION
1. GEOGRAPHIC AREA AND POPULATION DESIGNATION--JOB TRAINING
PARTNERSHIP ACT
Don Willhoit indicated he understands that each local government
has been mandated to redesignate the SDA of participation. Orange County
at the present time, is a member of the Piedmont consortium which
includes Orange County, Durham City and Durham County. Chatham County is
currently a member of the consortium of Lee and Chatham County. Under
the new rules, a county must have a population of 100,000 in order to be
a free standing' SDA and if less than 100,000 it would be under the
balance of State. Two proposals include:
(1) Form; a consortium with Chatham County with JOCCA as the
program delivery unit to run the program, or
(2) Remain with the Central Piedmont consortium.
Don Willhoit pointed out that the Commission for Women made a
study on the JTPA program and suggested some recommendations for
improving the outreach of the program. The report identifies the
problems of accessibility and transportation for the participants in the
rural areas. Helnoted that while JOCCA is very strong in their outreach
efforts, the Central Piedmont program is very strong with the Chamber of
Commerce and with the businesses in the Research Triangle area.
WillhoitIsuggested that Chatham, Durham and Orange form a three
county consortium and that Central Piedmont be requested to contract with
JOCCA to providelthe outreach and counseling services offered.
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Hoffman stated that currently Chatham County is involved with Lee
County. However, Lee, Harnett and Sampson have joined together to form a
consortium with an invitation extended to Chatham. A decision has not
been made by the Commissioners.
Carl Thdmpson asked on what basis the money would be allocated to
each County one the consortium is formed and Bob Ferguson, Director of
the Orange County, Durham County and Durham City consortium, explained
that the money is allocated by County and the decision for distribution
is made by the PIC who in turn considers the equity of the allocation.
Eight five perdent of the money is used for the actual training,
administrative and staff costs to operate the program and only fifteen
percent is actually received by the participants.
Don Wiilhoit pointed out that the money is allocated using
population and unemployment figures.
Gloria Williams noted that with the new redesignation process,
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the County Commissioners have the authority to specify, based on their
proportional share, the procedure for distribution.
Irving Nach, PIC Council, made reference to the PIC Council and
asked to hear more about JOCCA and their activities and if it can, in
fact, merge with what is being done by the PIC Council.
Don Willhoit, in response to Mr. Nach, stated that JOCCA is a
community agency involved with services to the poor for Durham and Orange
County. They have been involved with job training for a number of years
and have an outreach program.
Commissioner Carey suggested combining the strengths of both the
Piedmont SDA and JOCCA in an effort to reach more of the people in Orange
County. The a vantages of both need to be capitalized upon and the
relationship betWeen the consortium and the Research Triangle needs to be
maintained.
Mr. Nach again asked for a breakdown of outreach services
provided by JOCCA with the amount of money spent on such services. He
spoke in support of the training accomplishments of the Central Piedmont
SDA. There are programs in Orange County and Chapel Hill which do meet
the needs of the' citizens.
Chair Wlillhoit noted that the ' opportunities" have not been
available for those in rural areas and a new arrangement might provide
that opportunity.
Cecil Brown, Assistant Durham City Manager, commented about the
contributions they make to the consortium in terms of office space and
money.
George Elsser, Chair of JOCCA, noted that JOCCA has had very good
luck with developing job training for small businesses in Chatham County.
He feels the rural people in Orange County need access to the labor
market. JOCCA is asking that their strengths be used to reach those
people who are poor and unemployed in an effort to get them into the
labor market.
Bob Ferguson, referred to the PIC and their responsibility with
reviewing the labor market area and looking at the population that is to
be served to create programs which will address the needs of the
affected population. No one has ever indicated to the PIC that they were
not reaching out into the rural area.
County Manager Marvin Hoffman asked about the representation on
the PIC and Ken Thompson indicated the number of members representing a
certain County or city would be based on population.
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In answer to a concern from Carl Thompson about the advantages of
Chatham County forming a consortium with Orange County, Don Wilihoit
noted that the ;main disadvantages of Orange going with Chatham is the
administrative size and the lack of access to the jobs in the Research
Triangle Park. However, there are identifiable problems like outreach
and transportation where JOCCA could be effective.
Commissioner Walker spoke in support of the past achievements of
the Central Piedmont SDA. He asked how JOCCA could help in the need for
Transportation and Gloria Williams noted that JOCCA is part of the
Coordinated Transportation System which operates in the rural area of
Orange County. Transportation would be available to transport
participants to training and job sites. Walker asked if the
transportation Service is available whether or not JOCCA operates the
program and Williams explained it would need to become a part of the
Coordinated Transportation Development Plan which is being developed at
this time.
Commissioner Marshall clarified that a service would have to be
provided by JOCCA before they are eligible to use the system. The CATS
can only be used to serve those clients through a service which is
offered through :JOCCA.
Hoffman 'summarized the three choices for Chatham:
(1) Joint Orange County/Chatham County consortium administered
by qoccA.
(2) Joint Orange County/Chatham County/Durham County consortium
admnistered through a consortium arrangement.
(3) Lee/Harnet/Sampson/Chatham Counties.
Chair W4lhoit asked that the two County Managers meet to discuss
an approach to the redesignation of the SDA.
2. COUNTY BOUNDARY LINE
Roscoe Reeve presented information on establishing a boundary between
Orange and Chatham Counties. It has been attempted in such a way as to
benefit both counties with a minimum expense. There are two ways to
determine the line. The first is an actual survey of all the land along
the boundary and the second by the use of modern technology with the
governing boards' making the final decision. The proposal is to accept,
by the use of en orthophotograph the line as determined by the two
governing boards,. A description will then be drawn from the monumentation
of the State Blank Coordinance System defining the line and recording it
in both counties. He explained the process used to obtain the
orthophotograph and the three lines drawn across the map that takes into
account the concerns of both counties.
Chair Willhoit asked if a survey had been done of those homes on or
close to the lihe to determine what County they think they live in to
avoid any househOlds from Changing County designation, schools, etc.
After further discussion on the area of Wolf Pond and the homes that
may be affected,' it was agreed that the people in the immediate vicinity
of the proposed; line would be contacted to be sure they stay in the
County they desire.
3. WIDENING LYSTRA ROAD
Vance Thompson asked that Orange County write the Department of
Transportation and support the widening of Lystra Road as it enters
15-501.
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4. JORDAN LAKEIWATER ALLOCATION
Don Willhoit indicated that it has been suggested that some sort of
regional type authority be formed. NRCD is looking for local governments
to develop some proposals to enhance regional cooperation in making
allocation decisions.
5. UNIVERSITY WATERSHED
Don Willhoit noted that eight percent of the University Lake
watershed extends into Chatham County and in times of heavy rains a
couple of houses have been flooded. Orange County would like to
encourage Chatham County to formulate some watershed protection measures
that would help to protect the watershed along the line.
Chair Willhoit briefly summarized the procedure Orange County uses to
determine the water quality critical area and the regulations to protect
the watershed. I Chatham County was receptive to the suggestion and .
indicated a willingness to work out the regulations needed to provide
this protection.
6. HUMAN SERVICES
No discussion.
Don Willhoit adjourned the meeting. The next regular meeting of the
Orange County Board of Commissioners will be held on January 6, 1986 in
the Orange County courtroom, Hillsborough, North Carolina.
Don Willhoit, Chair
Beverly A. Blythe, Clerk