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MINUTES
ORANGE COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
Work Session
May 12, 2015
7:00 p.m.
The Orange County Board of Commissioners met for a work session on Tuesday, May
12, 2015 at 7:00 p.m. at the Southern Human Services Center in Chapel Hill, N.C.
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Chair McKee and Commissioners Mark Dorosin,
Barry Jacobs, Renee Price and Penny Rich
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: Commissioners Mia Burroughs and Bernadette
Pelissier
COUNTY ATTORNEYS PRESENT: John Roberts
COUNTY STAFF PRESENT: County Manager Bonnie Hammersley, Assistant County
Manager Cheryl Young and Deputy Clerk to the Board David Hunt (All other staff members will
be identified appropriately below)
Chair McKee called the meeting to order at 7:02 p.m.
Chair McKee said that Commissioner Burroughs and Commissioner Pelissier would be
absent tonight, due to prior commitments.
Chair McKee noted the following items at the Commissioners' places:
- PowerPoint slides for item 1- Presentation on Orange County Partnership to End
Homelessness 2015 Plan to End Homelessness
- White Sheet— Orange County Point-in-Time Counts, for Item 1
- PowerPoint slides for item 2-Potential Revisions to the Existing Public Hearing Process
- PowerPoint slides for item 2-Private Road and Access Standards
- White Sheet— Fire Service Features, for item 3
- Blue Sheet-Excerpt from the Approved January 30, 2015 Board of County Commissioners'
Retreat Minutes
1. Presentation on Orange County Partnership to End Homelessness 2015 Plan to
End Homelessness
Jamie Rohe said she spoke to the Board of County Commissioners (BOCC) a few
months ago about the new Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) between the four local
governmental jurisdictions and the Partnership to End Homelessness. She said the first part of
the MOU was about the new supervisory structure of the Orange County Partnership to End
Homelessness (OCPTEH), and the other main part of the MOU related to a significant change
in the Partnership and their plan to end homelessness. She said in 2008, a ten year plan to
end chronic homelessness was established between the four local governments. She said the
MOU changed the ten year plan to end chronic homelessness to a plan to end homelessness.
She said the abstract contains the OCPTEH 2015 Plan to End Homelessness, the
2015 Calculation of Unmet Need for Housing for People Experiencing Homelessness, the
Point in Time Count Data, and a copy of her PowerPoint presentation. Jamie Rohe said she
welcomed interruptions and questions throughout the presentation. Jamie Rohe presented the
following PowerPoint slides:
Orange County Partnership to End Homelessness
2015 Plan to End Homelessness
Orange County Partnership to End Homelessness
• Orange County Ten-Year Plan to End Chronic Homelessness (2007)
• Coalition of housing and service providers, local government and community members
working together to end and prevent homelessness in Orange County
• Leadership Team and workgroups
• Housing
• Employment
• Services
Overarching Goals
Federal Strategic Plan to Prevent and End Homelessness (2010):
1. Set a path to ending all types of homelessness;
2. Finish the job of ending chronic homelessness by 2017;
3. Prevent and end homelessness among veterans by 2015 (2016 in NC);
4. Prevent and end homelessness for families, youth and children by 2020.
Best Practices
• 2009 HEARTH Act:
Homeless Emergency Assistance & Rapid Transition to Housing
• Homelessness System:
1. Emergency Shelter
2. Rapid Re-Housing (including services)
3. Permanent Supportive Housing (for disabled, including services)
• Housing First: housing is health care
• ENDING vs. MANAGING homelessness: trampoline vs. sticky safety net
Chair McKee asked if there is an alternative for when residents are unable to comply
with facility rules and regulations, or their own treatment plan.
Jamie Rohe said people are not required to follow treatment plans, but treatment plans
are available to them. She said there may be a disabled person with a mental health diagnosis
plus a drug and alcohol addiction. She said previous thinking followed a "carrot and stick"
approach; where the carrot was the housing and the stick was the treatment plan. She said it
has been found that when people are in permanent housing, and are offered the option to
choose or deny services, they are more likely to accept services offered. She said not
everyone takes advantage of such treatment; however, the vast majority show improvements,
such as drinking less. She added that there are other societal benefits, such as a reduction in
trips to the Emergency room, the involvement of Police, the use of emergency shelters, etc.
Chair McKee asked if the behavior of a small subset, that does not take advantage of
the treatment offered, is being enabling by the removal of a consequence; such as the loss of
housing.
Jamie Rohe said she is not a Social Worker, and cannot speak with the authority of a
front line case worker. She said it is her understanding from those who are experts in the field,
that a person who resists treatment would be more likely to continue abuse drugs and alcohol,
and not seek mental health treatment, while living on the streets; and therefore at much
greater risk of death, than if they were to continue to receive housing.
Funding and Data
HUD funding (grants)
• Continuum of Care = $550,000/year
o Permanent Supportive Housing (Cardinal Innovations & UNC)
• Emergency Solutions Grant= $190,000/year
• Emergency Shelter (IFC)
• Rapid Re-Housing (DSS)
Homeless Management Information System (HMIS)
• All grantees required to enter data in HMIS
• 2015 new NC HMIS administrator = reliable data
Performance Indicators
1. Reduce the length of time people are homeless (target < 30 days).
2. Reduce returns to homelessness.
3. Reduce the overall number of persons who experience homelessness.
4. Increase job and income growth for persons who are homeless.
OCPEH 2015 Plan to End Homelessness
HOUSING
1. Increase housing opportunities.
• Rapid Re-Housing
• Permanent Supportive Housing
• Affordable rental housing (esp. < 30% AMI)
2. Increase number of landlords that will rent to people experiencing/at risk of
homelessness.
3. Increase Town of Chapel Hill public housing units and Orange County Housing Choice
Vouchers available to homeless.
4. Implement Coordinated Entry System
Commissioner Rich asked if she understood correctly that the Housing Choice Voucher
Program has been closed for five years, and no one is on the list.
Jamie Rohe said it is actually a very full list, but it is a waiting list that is closed. She
said the list has about 1,600 people on it, and it takes about ten years to receive a voucher
due to very slow turn over.
Commissioner Rich asked if the 1,600 people are still in Orange County.
Jamie Rohe says the list is purged and updated on a regular basis.
Commissioner Rich asked if the list were to be reopened, to whom it would be targeted.
Jamie Rohe said neither the County nor the Town of Chapel Hill have been
approached about a collaboration. She said there is a lot of guidance from the Department of
Housing and Urban Development (HUD) about how local housing authorities and partnerships
to end homelessness can work together. She said she has only just begun to look into this
potential collaboration and the best practices by which to achieve it. She said one possibility,
that caught her attention, was the option of opening an additional waiting list that is targeted at
a particular group, such as those experiencing homelessness.
Chair McKee said he does not understand how starting a new waiting list offers much
help, when there is no housing available for the people on the existing waiting list.
Jamie Rohe said this is the very reason there must be a Community dialogue between
all stakeholders. She said if a preference were to be given to those experiencing
homelessness, it may change their rank on the waiting list.
Commissioner Dorosin said this conversation highlights a more fundamental issue,
which is the need to prioritize more affordable housing units. He said the prospect of getting
the private market to be more amenable to renting to those at risk of homelessness is a losing
battle. He said it would be ideal to have low income housing integrated into regular market
housing, but that goal may have to be sacrificed in order to simply increase the amount of low
income housing available.
Jamie Rohe said the past Housing Director, Tara Fikes, said if the apartment
complexes are no longer taking vouchers, then individual landlords need to be approached.
She said she has heard many people say this same message.
Jamie Rohe said more affordable rental housing must be built, as the current housing
status is in crisis mode. She said the battle has to be fought on several fronts: increasing
housing, recruiting more landlords, etc. She said the creation of a Housing Locator Specialist
Position would help greatly. She said there is a duplication of efforts across the County to find
affordable housing for their clients; and a housing locator position would be able to recruit
landlords, and maintain good relationships with them. She said this position would help reduce
duplication efforts and would maintain relationships with providers and clients, as they provide
housing for the homeless.
Commissioner Price asked if Jamie Rohe's role in this plan could be explained.
Jamie Rohe said she is not a service provider or a housing provider, but rather she is
the Homeless Programs Coordinator. She said she is responsible for applying for the funds,
writing the grants, staffing all the work groups, collecting data, and using that data effectively.
She said she brings groups together to work collaboratively, and to implement best practices.
Commissioner Price asked if homelessness has been reduced.
Jamie Rohe said that no, homelessness has not been reduced. She said their data
has not been good enough to know how homelessness is changing in the area.
Jamie Rohe said the numbers of unsheltered homeless has dropped significantly in the
past several years, due to people getting into permanent supportive housing. She said the
overall numbers for homelessness have not gone down, and that homelessness is an indicator
of extreme poverty.
Commissioner Price said the information in the abstract did not mention much about
training and employment.
Jamie Rohe said the Plan to End Homelessness has three parts to it, and her
presentation this evening is only focusing on the housing component. She said she would
welcome the opportunity to return and talk about the other parts.
Bonnie Hammersley said Jamie Rohe's position is funded by all four government
entities. She said there is a lot of overlap between governmental entities, and that is why
Jamie's position was moved from the Housing Department to the Manager's office.
Bonnie Hammersley said she has some responses to share in the Budget discussion
next week.
Commissioner Jacobs said there was a presentation from Affordable Housing Advisory
Board, about a year ago. He said this Board asked for funding for one of its members to act
as a clearinghouse for affordable housing opportunities in Orange County. He asked if there
was an update on this topic.
Jamie Rohe said the proposal for the Orange County Clearinghouse Network has some
good elements to it; however, clearinghouse networks are notoriously hard to maintain. She
said this process did not work well at the Federal level. She said it must be considered why
these are not working, and what is needed in order to succeed. She said there must be a
deliberative process of engaging partners; including relationships with providers, ideally with
the clients themselves and also with the landlords.
Bonnie Hammersley said she would provide additional information to the BOCC on this
issue.
Commissioner Jacobs said more rental units are being built in Chapel Hill. He asked if
there is any strategy for providing more affordable housing rentals, versus affordable units for
ownership.
Jamie Rohe said there is an inclusionary zoning ordinance for home ownership. She
said the Affordable Housing Commission, which is all of the main affordable housing
stakeholders in the County, is focusing on how to encourage private developers to give
affordable rentals in their developments.
Commissioner Rich said the Town of Chapel Hill is working with a developer on Legion
Road; but the process has been delayed, due to paperwork not being filed in a timely manner.
She said the development is supposed to be largely made up of affordable housing. She said
she is unsure if this development will include any priority for those who are homeless, or at risk
of being so.
Commissioner Jacobs said he was thinking more about the Ephesus Fordham area,
and downtown on Rosemary Street.
Commissioner Rich said the Exchange was at Ephesus Fordham, and it was put on
Legion Road instead.
Bonnie Hammersley said she will find out the strategy information from the Towns of
Chapel Hill and Hillsborough, and will forward it to the Board.
Commissioner Jacobs said he agreed with Commissioner Dorosin about incentivizing
the private sector to interface with government, to provide affordable units. He said an
incentive per unit may not be a financially viable option with a large apartment complex; but it
may be a viable option with an owner of a private home, which is rented out. He said he would
not want to give up this option entirely.
Commissioner Rich said the density bonus strategy is not working for the Town of
Chapel Hill.
Commissioner Rich said her concern is, as transitional housing is built with Inter-Faith
Council Social Services (IFC), there are still homeless on the street, and there are no
emergency shelters available to them. She said the option of building a shelter must be
considered, as the transitional housing is a non-emergency shelter. She said there must be a
discussion about what to do when IFC moves out of their current shelter.
Jamie Rohe continued with the PowerPoint presentation:
Calculation of Unmet Need for Housing
Homeless street outreach workers and shelter/transitional housing staff estimate that Orange
County's unmet need for housing to ultimately resolve the homelessness of their clients is
(after new Community House opens):
• Emergency Shelter:
0 18 beds for men
o (surplus of 10 for women)
• Transitional Housing:
• (surplus of 60 beds for men)
• (surplus of 8 beds for women & children)
• Rapid Re-Housing: 49 beds
• Permanent Supportive Housing: 29 beds
John Dorward, Executive Director of the Community House in Chapel Hill, reviewed the
new Community House, saying care will be provided to the same homeless people. He said
Community House will not be an emergency shelter, and will only be able to take in 17 extra
people on white flag nights. He added that there are people who do not want to come into
housing.
John Dorward said the program will be more of an interim program, as opposed to
transitional housing. He said the program believes strongly in rapid re-housing. He said there
is not a lot of rapid re-housing, and few people get placed within a year. He said more
affordable housing options would lead to greater success rates.
John Dorward said there has been a waiting list at both shelters for over a year, even at
the men's shelter. He said both shelters have been full for ages. He said the new facility will
only have two more beds than the older facility; 52 beds instead of 50.
John Dorward said having an emergency shelter would be great; however, there is not
one. He said as a result, these homeless people will still come into their program. He said if
someone comes into the shelter, there is a chance to get that person into their program and
eventually into permanent housing.
Commissioner Rich asked if there is any way to pursue an emergency shelter for
Orange County.
Chair McKee asked John Roberts if he would research any options for affordable rental
properties, outside of rental control. He said he understands rent control is illegal in North
Carolina.
Chair McKee said he is not sure that all of the providers in Orange County have been
invited to the table to talk about affordable housing. He said this conversation must take place
in conjunction with all four Towns and all the providers, from small to large. He said everyone
needs to be in the same room, on the same page; and he has seen a lack of coordination in
some of the areas.
Bonnie Hammersley said collaboration and cooperation is the direction that this
conversation is going; and all updates will be shared with the BOCC, as available. She said
the new Housing Director has some ideas on how to expedite this process with some
resources. She said she will speak further on this topic during budget discussions.
Commissioner Jacobs said if there was a bond for affordable housing, it would be a
great incentive for all parties to come together to discuss this issue.
Commissioner Rich said that the Partnership to End Homelessness does have a seat at
the table for all the partners mentioned. She said it is a well attended group from throughout
the County.
Jamie Rohe said there is a big overlap between homelessness and housing, and the
Orange County Affordable Housing Coalition is the body that is bringing everyone together.
She said this coalition has been in existence for about two years, and has about 20
stakeholders involved.
Chair McKee asked if the Manager would please schedule another update in the fall.
Commissioner Price said as development continues in Chapel Hill, more and more
wooded areas are being cut down. She said she is aware of many homeless people, who live
in the wooded areas, and are now displaced, as the woods are removed. She said this only
increases the need for more housing.
2. Potential Revisions to the Existing Public Hearing Process
Perdita Holtz, Orange County Planning Department, made the following PowerPoint
presentation:
Potential Revisions to the Existing Public Hearing Process
(for Unified Development Ordinance (UDO)/Zoning Matters)
Purpose of Work Session
• To discuss whether the existing public hearing process for UDO/Zoning matters should
be revised
• If so, give staff direction on what the process should be
• Any revisions must be brought forward as a UDO text amendment at a quarterly public
hearing
Recent History
• Reviewed in last half of 2014 and discussed extensively by Planning Board and BOCC
• Original impetus:
• Remove the Planning Board as an official board at the public hearing (e.g., do
not require a quorum of Planning Board members)
• Increase the frequency of public hearings (currently held 4 times per year on
dates specifically set aside only for public hearings)
• Other discussion through process:
o Allow the public to make comments at the end of the process, not just at the
formal public hearing
➢ Will require a text amendment to the UDO which stipulates only written
comments can be made after the formal public hearing
➢ If pursued, should be allowed only for legislative items, not quasi-judicial
items (e.g., Special Use Permits)
Legislative vs. Quasi-Judicial
• If revisions are made, staff recommends two slightly different processes given the
different legal requirements
• Legislative decisions can be discussed by decision makers outside of the formal
public hearing with anyone who has an opinion
• Quasi-judicial decisions are not to be discussed outside of the formal hearing
(ex parte communication) and sworn testimony by experts is required
➢ Non-expert opinions are considered hearsay and cannot be the basis of
a decision
Possible Process Flow Charts
• Included in agenda materials along with remarks regarding each possible process
• Primary differences from existing process:
Differences from Existing Process
• Planning Board would make a recommendation prior to the public hearing
• Planning Board could request BOCC send item back to the Planning Board after
the public hearing
• BOCC could choose to send an item back to the Planning Board after the public
hearing
• Public hearing would be closed the night of the hearing
o Written comments after the hearing would no longer be required
o At conclusion of hearing BOCC could:
➢ Defer a decision to a later BOCC meeting date (items would no longer
be listed on the public hearing portion of the later BOCC agenda and the
public could make oral comments)
➢ Refer an application back to the Planning Board for further review
➢ Make a decision at the conclusion of the hearing (this would allow the
process to move more quickly for items that are not particularly
controversial)
• Planning Board quorum not required to hold public hearing
o Planning Board encouraged to attend public hearings
• More opportunities for public comment and earlier in the process
• Comment at both Planning Board meeting and formal public hearing
• Nearby property owners would receive letter about the Planning Board meeting
and signs would be posted on the property
• For quasi-judicial matters, Planning Board meeting could be considered a "dry
run" for the formal public hearing
BOCC Discussion
• Should existing process be revised?
• If so, how?
• When Planning Board's recommendation occurs
➢ Before or after public hearing
• Require Planning Board quorum in order to hold public hearing?
• Number of public hearings per year
➢ Could be different for legislative vs. quasi-judicial
• Closure of public hearings so items would no longer appear on the "Public
Hearing" portion of BOCC agendas with no additional comment accepted
➢ Removal of requirement for written comments will be necessary OR
change heading on BOCC agendas
Commissioner Price said is the option of keeping or removing the planning board from
the process at the sole discretion of the BOCC.
John Roberts said the Planning Board can be given any authority that the BOCC sees
fit. He said currently the Planning Board is primarily an advisory board. He said the BOCC
can delegate more or less responsibilities, as it so chooses. He said the BOCC can remove
the Planning Board from the Quarterly Public Hearing process.
Chair McKee asked if the requirement of having the Planning Board members to be
present in a quorum at Quarterly Public Hearings was made during Commissioner Jacobs'
tenure.
Commissioner Jacobs said this decision predates his tenure. He said when he was
Planning Board Chair, 30 years ago, it was a requirement to have a quorum and to make a
recommendation after the Public Hearings.
Commissioner Price referred to the slide titled Differences from Existing Process,
asking if the public would be able to make only oral comments; or would written comments also
be allowed.
Perdita Holtz said for legislative items, residents can make oral and written comments.
She said for legislative items, the State requires that at least one Public Hearing be held. She
said there are no constraints on the public's involvement in such meetings. She said restraints
on the public's involvement only exist in quasi-judicial matters. She said the current Public
Hearing process in Orange County blended the two processes together leaving only one
Public Hearing for both legislative and quasi-judicial matters. She said this blending of matters
into one meeting can be difficult, as there are times when people are unable to speak at later
meetings.
Commissioner Price referred to the second bullet point on the same slide that stated:
"refer an application back to the Planning Board for further review." She asked if further
comment would be allowed by the BOCC.
Perdita Holtz said the Public Hearing would be closed at the hearing. She said the
three bullet points on this slide are not mutually exclusive, and the Board could choose any of
the three options. She said the BOCC would be allowed further comment as a regular agenda
item at a BOCC meeting.
Commissioner Dorosin asked if it comes back as a regular agenda item on the BOCC's
agenda, can anyone speak on it.
Perdita Holtz said that is correct.
Commissioner Dorosin asked if the only reason it is not currently done this way is
because the legislative and quasi-judicial processes are melded together.
Perdita Holtz said the language in the UDO does not allow for oral comments at a later
stage.
Commissioner Dorosin said the current problem is that comments are returned the
BOCC, and no one is allowed to comment on them. He said the goal is not to remove the
Planning Board from the process, but rather to get the public more involved in a smoother and
efficient process.
Commissioner Dorosin said the process can remain as it is, but add that additional
comment will be welcomed upon the return of the Planning Board's recommendations. He
said he likes the idea of what is in the recommendations, to encourage the public to be
involved earlier in the process.
Commissioner Dorosin said waiving the no comment clause would address a lot of the
concerns he has. He said it does not remove the Planning Board from the process; but it
allows the public and the Planning Board to be in communication much earlier in the process.
He said the process for the legislative items, including the ability for further comment, are a
good step forward, and he would endorse it wholeheartedly.
Commissioner Rich said a public hearing where people are told they cannot comment
is not a public hearing. She said it would be nice to have members from the Planning Board in
attendance at the end of the Public Hearing, when public comments are going to be allowed.
She said if the Planning Board makes a recommendation and the BOCC discusses it at a
meeting, there needs to be a representative from the Planning Board in attendance in order to
explain why the Planning Board made the recommendation it did. She asked how comments
from the public to the Planning Board will be evened out at that point.
Perdita Holtz said one of the duties of the Planning Board Chair/Vice Chair would be to
attend the Board of County Commissioners' meeting where these legislative items are on the
agenda.
Commissioner Jacobs agreed that attendance at the BOCC meeting should be a
requirement of the Planning Board Chair/Vice Chair. He said this is a good compromise, and
he is willing to change the process but would like to re-visit the process in a year to see how
this is working.
Commissioner Jacobs said that the Planning Board seems more passive in the last few
years. He said this may be due to the thorough work of the planning staff. He said he sees
the Planning Board as a fairly inactive group; and there is disconnect between the two Boards.
Commissioner Jacobs referred to page 4 of the PowerPoint presentation that states "for
quasi-judicial matters, Planning Board meeting could be considered a `dry run' for the formal
public hearing." He said it is important that the public know what admissible testimony in a
quasi-judicial hearing is.
John Roberts said there are occasions where the public does not understand what
admissible evidence is. He said it may be helpful to send in advance the definition of what a
quasi-judicial hearing is.
Craig Benedict said a brochure has been created, with the Attorney's office, which
explains the differences between legislative and quasi-judicial hearings. He said it also
explains the process of a quasi-judicial hearing.
Commissioner Jacobs said it would be nice to put an explanation of the difference
between the Board of Adjustment and the Planning Board on the website.
Chair McKee said a brochure will likely not be enough to educate the public on this
issue and process.
Commissioner Price said she is reticent to remove the Planning Board as an official
Board at the Public Hearings. She said the BOCC and the Planning Board may not always
agree, but having both present helps to flush out the issue.
Commissioner Jacobs agreed with her, and that is why he would want to re-visit this in
a year. He said the fact the Planning Board voted to take themselves out of the process, as
part of the Public Hearings, reflects their aforementioned passivity.
Perdita Holtz said the Planning Board recommended this option IF the Board of County
Commissioners wanted to change the current Public Hearing process.
Commissioner Rich said all the more reason to include the recommendation to evaluate
the new process after a year. She said it would send the message to the Planning Board that
the decision is not irreversible, and their input on the changes would be welcomed.
John Roberts said if the BOCC felt that the Planning Board was not engaged, the
BOCC could designate more responsibility to the Planning Board, in order to get them more
involved.
Commissioner Jacobs said to also make it a requirement for the Chair or Vice Chair of
the Planning Board to attend the public hearings and the Board of County Commissioners
meetings.
Perdita Holtz asked if the Planning Board Chair or Vice Chair would be required to
attend both the Public Hearing and the BOCC decision meeting.
Chair McKee said when he served on the Planning Board it was his understanding that
attendance at Public Hearings was mandatory. He said he supports continuing the
requirement for the Planning Board attend Public Hearings. He said if there is not a quorum,
then appointments should be made. He said the privilege of serving on the Planning Board
carries with it responsibilities.
Commissioner Jacobs said three of the five BOCC members in attendance tonight want
the Planning Board to attend the Public Hearings, as well as the Board of County
Commissioners' meetings and to require the Chair/Vice Chair of the Planning Board to attend.
He said that sometimes life issues may interfere with attendance but, in general, attendance
should be expected.
Chair McKee said he understands that life issues come up, but he senses an overall
attitude of apathy.
Commissioner Dorosin asked if the requirement of a quorum, for a meeting to proceed,
would still be in place; or if the process could continue, and necessary follow up could be done
with the Planning Board after the fact. He said his main concern is not holding up the process.
He said he would not oppose a general attendance requirement but struggles with any
requirement that would cause the process to halt; especially when the public has been notified
and has shown up.
Commissioner Jacobs said perhaps staff could come up with a process of how to hold
Planning Board members accountable, while allowing for the issues of life that come up, and
keeps the process moving forward.
Chair McKee said that sounds like a good compromise.
Perdita Holtz said there is a difference between saying you have to be there and
requiring a quorum to move forward.
Chair McKee agreed when the public, Commissioners, and staff are all present and
ready to proceed, it is frustrating to cancel a meeting simply due to the lack of a quorum.
3. Private Road and Access Standards
Abigaile Pittman, Transportation and Land Use Planner, made the following PowerPoint
presentation
Private Road and Access Standards
Purpose: To receive an update and provide guidance on options for addressing various
private road access concerns.
Background
Addressing Private Road Access Concerns
• Included in 2014 Work Plans
• OUTBoard
• Planning Board
• 05/20/2014 — BOCC authorization to proceed
• 12/09/2014 —BOCC Info Item summary of input and received approval to return with
possible actions.
Abstract Includes:
• A review of existing private road standards; and
• A grouping of possible options or action that could be pursued, grouped as follows:
• Possible amendments to the UDO, including some from the Fire Council.
• A report/list of items that cannot be addressed through amendments to the
UDO; and
• Options for addressing emergency access for trail systems, either in or outside
the UDO.
Current UDO Regulations- Road Development
1) Class A
• Serves 6-12 lots or dwelling units
• 50 ft. right-of-way
• 18 ft. travel-way
• Road maintenance agreement
• Property owners responsible
Class B
• Serves 1-5 lots or dwelling units
• 50 ft. right-of-way
• No standard travel-way width
• Road maintenance agreement
• Property owners responsible
>13 lots or dwelling units
• Exempt Subdivisions per NC General Statutes
• Required to be constructed to NCDOT Standards for Subdivision Roads.
• Division of land into parcels > than 10 acres if no street right-of-way dedication.
• Combination/recombination of lots if total number not increased.
• Public acquisition of land for widening streets.
• Lot division < 2 acres and > 3 lots if no right-of-way dedication.
Primary Concerns
• Vehicle access on private roads and driveways for emergency response.
• Conversion to public road standards and acceptance into the State-maintained system
at some point in future.
• Currently no standards for emergency access for trail systems at Orange County parks
administered by DEAPR.
Possible Options/Actions within the UDO
1. Do away with Class B private roads and allow only Class A private roads, which
requires a minimum 18-ft. travel-way.
2. Allow subdivisions with < 3 lots or dwelling units to be served by a shared driveway,
subject to standards to accommodate emergency services vehicles. (UDO currently
allows 2 lots or dwelling units to share a driveway.)
3. Develop a requirement that all newly created lots have access to a complying road
(either private or public).
4. Cul-de-sacs: Increase clearing width to accommodate emergency vehicle
access/staging. There is currently no minimum width.
5. Drainage pipes under driveways: Establish a minimum width for all drain pipes of 16
feet, to address concern of trucks being `hung up' when accessing property.
6. Gates/Walls: Require minimum travel widths and stacking areas to accommodate
access concerns.
7. Pull-over Areas: Standards for requiring pull-over areas to allow two trucks to pass on
a road.
8. Private Bridges: There are currently no existing weight specifications governing the
development of a bridge over a stream crossing.
9. Tree Clearance on Driveways: A reference to a tree clearing requirement for
subdivision projects may be needed to ensure emergency vehicular access, with a
reference to such a requirement in recorded road maintenance agreements. However,
the UDO may not be the most appropriate location for this County standard.
Staff Comments
All the aforementioned options for amending the UDO are viable except for option no. 3:
Develop a requirement that all newly created lots have access to a complying road (either
private or public).
Possible options/actions Outside the UDO
1. Locked gates
2. Tree clearance on driveways
3. Road identification
4. District issues with road conditions
Possible Options/Actions for Addressing Emergency Access for Trail Systems — In or
Outside UDO
• There are currently no standards for emergency access for trail systems in the UDO.
• Draft goal and objectives (Attachment 1) could be implemented as a matter of County
policy for the planning and development of future parks or for incorporation into the
UDO.
Recommendations
The Planning Director recommends the Board:
1. Accept the update;
2. Discuss any concerns or preferences on options; and
3. With feedback, authorize staff to proceed with potential regulatory amendments
Chair McKee asked if Emergency Services Director Jim Groves could address the
concerns of the fire departments, with the existing road standards.
Jim Groves said when they met with the Fire Chiefs Council, getting down the private
roads in a safe manner was one of the main concerns. He said there has been the same
issue with ambulances, if a road has low hanging trees.
Jason Shepherd, Orange County Fire Marshal, made reference to Class 10 properties.
He said he attended a community meeting with a development, which ended up making a road
name change, doing maintenance on the road and surrounding trees, making it easier to
ingress and egress. He said it is difficult to meet with all communities and encourage them to
make the necessary changes.
Chair McKee asked if there is a definition of a driveway. He said homes must be
accessible.
Michael Harvey, Current Planning Supervisor, said the recommendation would involve
a driveway standard being adopted; to provide access, a staging area, and to guarantee a turn
around. He said to achieve this; a text amendment would have to be done.
Michael Harvey said any subdivision project, reviewed by staff, must demonstrate
compliance with code. He said all shared driveway agreements are also reviewed.
Chair McKee said it would technically be the same as what he dealt with, but with the
cul- de-sacs it says there is no current minimum width. He said he believed a 60-foot radius to
be required.
Michael Harvey said there is currently a minimum width; however, there is not a
minimum clearing outside of the travel way, and often vegetation gets in the way of the turn
radius. He said twelve feet is not acceptable, and the goal is to come up with a standard that
is acceptable.
Commissioner Price asked if there is an advantage of three lots as opposed to two lots,
and what a shared driveway would be like, since it must be wide enough for vehicles to pass
on.
Abigaile Pittman said the original purpose of the standard was to call for an affordable
option before people spend monies on a Class A Road, and that is how the number of three
lots was determined.
Commissioner Price asked how the driveway is built and maintained.
Chair McKee said in his case he built the road, and when the homeowners bought the
lots they took responsibility for the maintenance. He said it was a Class B road.
Commissioner Price asked if there is a difference between a really wide driveway and a
Class B road.
Michael Harvey said a Class B road must have a minimum travel width of twelve feet.
Commissioner Price asked if this road would be twelve feet.
Michael Harvey said a larger road will likely be recommended, based on the
recommendation of First Responders; who say twelve feet is not viable for their needs. He
said the recommendation will suggest a shared driveway with a larger cul de sac, than is
required, so that emergency vehicles will be able to operate properly. He said this would allow
smaller properties seeking a three lot subdivision to avoid the need for a Class A road, but
allow access for emergency vehicles. He said the recommendation will require larger
developers to comply with the Class A road standards.
Abigaile Pittman said a Class B road has 15 foot right of way, while a driveway would
not.
Commissioner Price asked if such a right of way sacrifices clearance area.
Abigaile Pittman said not necessarily as there are standards to accommodate
Emergency Vehicles.
Commissioner Dorosin asked if the intention is to apply the recommendation to roads
from this point forward, or if it is to retrofit existing roads. He asked if there was any sense of
the scope of the problem.
Abigaile Pittman said if there is an amendment to the UDO, it would be only going
forward; but if the County adopts other policies, then it could affect whatever the BOCC
decided.
Commissioner Jacobs asked if there are three lots cut out along the road way, must
they all connect on one driveway.
Michael Harvey said typically joint driveways and shared access roads are required to
avoid multiple curb cuts on the roadway; and thereby lesson traffic congestion.
Commissioner Jacobs said he understood the sense in two lots sharing a driveway, but
he is specifically asking if three lots must always share a driveway. He said it makes no sense
to him to cut across three lots, just so there can be a shared driveway.
Michael Harvey said no. He said it is incumbent upon the developer to come up with a
solution that avoids that scenario.
Chair McKee said that current regulations state that one cannot have multiple access
points into a minor subdivision. He added that a minor subdivision is considered one to five
lots.
Commissioner Jacobs asked if anyone has spoken to local realtors or members of the
local development community regarding this topic.
Michael Harvey said no.
Commissioner Jacobs asked if the 16 foot pipe was 16 feet in length or diameter.
Abigaile Pittman referred to the drawing graphic that outlined these measurements.
Jason Shepherd said there is an apron entrance off of the road, and the length of the
pipe would have to be the width of the apron. He said the length would be 16 feet long, lying
across the width of the driveway.
Commissioner Jacobs asked David Stancil if he could give some background on the
rural character study. He said a mixed group of stakeholders came together to discuss ways
to preserve rural character.
David Stancil said the study was done 22 years ago. He said the study was done prior
to the existence of cluster subdivisions and open space developments. He said there was a
lot of emphasis, at that time, on the environment, and the ability of constructing narrower
lanes. He said there were concerns about fire and safety, which were addressed by the
placement of regular pull out areas; allowing drivers room to pull over to let emergency
vehicles pass. He said the idea of protecting rural character included making sure that roads
were not overdesigned.
Commissioner Jacobs said there was a great deal of work done to encourage people to
work within the existing landscape, as opposed to changing it. He said he would like the
BOCC to consider that there may be other possibilities. He said he understands the issues of
safety but he would like to pursue the idea of preserving rural character. He said as most of
the jurisdiction is rural, those would be exceptions, not the rule.
Commissioner Jacobs said the Department of Transportation's standards are not
universal, but rather they are North Carolina standards; and he argued that there may be some
middle ground in exceptional cases.
Commissioner Jacobs said there should be differentiation between natural areas and
parks. He said he would like to see some sensitivity to the natural environment; all the while
knowing that Emergency Services and Fire Departments know what is in their jurisdictions, and
will respond accordingly.
Commissioner Rich said she is interested in seeing the old rural character study. She
said she is concerned that the burden is being put on the landowner or developer, and it is
expensive. She said the great cost of the roads and driveways may be passed to
homeowners.
Commissioner Dorosin said there is competing interests: cost for home owners or
developers, versus the obligation to help constituents during emergencies. He asked if
homeowners with unacceptably small driveways or tree limbs, that bar access, could be
reported to their insurance carrier; as they have an obligation to make the roads function for
public safety.
Chair McKee asked John Roberts if County services could refuse to approach an
emergency due to inaccessibility.
John Roberts said Emergency Services would have to find a way to get down the
driveway. He said he does not know a solution to the problem but there is a reasonable
expectation among citizens that the fire department, funded by their tax dollars, will reach their
house in a time of crisis.
Commissioner Rich asked if there is an emergency and the roads are inaccessible how
does Emergency Services currently respond.
Jason Shepherd said each situation is unique and is addressed one case at a time. He
said each response is created in the moment, often sacrificing precious time that would be
better used fighting the fire.
Commissioner Dorosin asked if property owners and realtors are required to disclose
the fact that a fire truck cannot get down the driveway.
Jason Shepherd said no, there is no type of disclosure requirement. He said in regards
to insurance providers, policy writers should create policies in the field after seeing a property
rather than at their desks.
Jim Groves said some of the stakeholders are worried about their vehicles, and
potential damage they may incur on unsafe or unstable roadways and bridges.
Commissioner Dorosin said if people knew of the hazards, like low hanging branches;
they may be more receptive to making the safety changes. He said many people may be
unaware of their property's inaccessibility, until it is too late.
Commissioner Price said firefighters are being put at risk, not just the vehicles. She
said it is not fair to come up with policies for nice country roads, and not consider the people
doing the work. She said she will side with the recommendations of the Sheriff, Emergency
Services and the Fire Departments.
Commissioner Jacobs said information, regarding Emergency Services accessibility,
could be included with the tax notice, in a similar manner to information about pumping septic
tanks.
Commissioner Jacobs said for the most part the intentions are all good and make
sense to him. He said part of being in the post 911 world is that there are so many sacrifices
of personal character, versus the greatest possible safety. He said it is reasonable to educate
people and to suggest that they clear their driveways but to make it a County ordinance takes
it too far.
Commissioner Jacobs said there should be some cost benefit analysis. He said his
own cost analysis tends to be the natural environment versus standards; but others compare
their bottom line to standards. He said the Development Community, as well as the public,
should be included in the discussion.
Chair McKee said there is a road off of Route 70, called Poplar Ridge, which fits the
definition of what is being discussed here tonight. He said driving this road may be helpful in
visualizing the types of issues that fire trucks face. He said access is the key; if services
cannot get to the fire, houses and people cannot be saved.
Commissioner Price said she is not in favor of increasing the cost to the developer but
she feels that the safety of the responders must be heavily weighed. She said a price cannot
be placed on a person's life.
Jason Shepherd said Chapter 5 of the fire code allows him to require fire apparatus
access. He said a solution may be as simple as reviewing development plans prior to
construction, to see if access is possible. He said there may be many cases where a 12 foot
driveway would allow access, and exorbitant changes and cost would not be necessary.
Chair McKee said Class B roads could remain available for minor subdivisions.
Commissioner Jacobs said when this item comes back to change it from standards to
guidelines subject to approval by the Fire Marshal's office.
Commissioner Jacobs said he is more in favor of flexibility and would trust the Fire
Marshal to give an honest review.
Chair McKee said he is not sure the BOCC has given any clear direction with which
staff can proceed.
Abigaile Pittman said perhaps the Board could authorize staff to outline some
amendment options, and return to the Board for their consideration.
Chair McKee said this may be the best course of action, as summarizing the evening's
conversation may prove difficult.
Commissioner Dorosin asked if the idea of some type of public awareness campaign
could be pursued.
Commissioner Rich asked if the properties that are already known to be difficult to
access, have been notified of this information.
Jim Groves said the Fire Marshal has done this on one occasion, and that response
was favorable, and the problem corrected.
Commissioner Rich said arming people with knowledge about their property may be a
really good place to start.
Chair McKee said fire departments do proactively engage the public with troublesome
roads.
4. Educational Facility Impact Fee Ordinance and Age-Restricted Housing
Craig Benedict said there was a request from a developer in Chapel Hill for Orange
County to review the County's ordinance and to have an age restrictive housing exception.
He said this developer asked for age restrictive housing to be categorized into a multi-family
impact fee category. He said the assumption, that the age restrictions for development would
be similar to that of multi-family, may be a lot to ask. He said the approved age restrictions for
90 percent of the development state that one person within the household must be over the
age of 55. He said this age restriction does not exclude people under the age of 55 also living
in the properties. He said the remaining 10 percent of the development does not have age
restrictions.
He said in the abstract is some background information (below) and some possible
options for the Board's consideration. He said they looked at some projects throughout the
United States which gave them enough information to do some research in Orange County
and maybe surrounding counties.
BACKGROUND: Orange County is one of the few counties in North Carolina that can impose
school impact fees because the County obtained special local enabling legislation from the
State in 1987. In 1993, the County acted upon this authority and, in collaboration with the
Towns and School Districts, began the fee assessment. Since then, the County has
occasionally (every few years) updated the fees based on school costs, categories of housing,
etc. Findings of impact, benefit, and proportionality must be shown to form a good
methodology and legal basis.
The Ordinance requires impact fees be paid for new residential construction in order to assist
with educational impact costs associated with new students. A developer has recently
approached staff to request that an exception be created for age-restricted housing, i.e.
housing that would be limited by deed or covenant restrictions to housing for persons over a
minimum age (see attached letter). The developer prefers the exception be created as quickly
as possible. If the Board is interested in pursuing an amendment to the Ordinance, Planning
staff recommends that the decision be based on relevant data because of the requirements
necessary to set impact fee levels. There are two possible methods to achieve data needs:
1. Require the developer requesting this exception provide information about other age
restricted projects in a specific geographic area (to be determined) and have staff evaluate the
data to determine probable impacts.
2. Conduct a student generation rate study specifically for age-restricted housing and assess
the fee accordingly. Historically, such studies have been completed by a consultant with data
supplied by the local governments. (This method is preferable due to the enhanced ability to
defend the outcome of the study).
It should be noted that a new impact fee study (which includes the accompanying student
generation rate analysis) has been requested by Planning in the department's FY 2015-16
Budget (approximately $70,000) since the last study was completed in 2007. If recommended
by the Manager and approved by the Board, the new impact fee study would disaggregate
housing types by number of bedrooms (similar to the 2014 study which evaluated only housing
that had been constructed in the past 10 years; impact fees must be based on the entire
housing stock). It would be possible to include age-restricted housing as a housing type in this
new study, but the results of the study would likely not be available until early 2016 and would
then have to be adopted. This timeframe may be longer than the developer would prefer. It
should be noted that the Educational Facilities Impact Fee Ordinance (EFIFO) is independent
from the Schools Adequate Public Facilities Ordinance (SAPFO) with only the student
generation rates having a common data ingredient. Because the special local enabling
legislation for the EFIFO is grounded in land use and zoning authority, any changes to the
Ordinance must be advertised in accordance with statute requirements and must be heard at a
public hearing. The public hearing can be on a regular BOCC meeting agenda (e.g., it is not
restricted to only the quarterly public hearings).
A student generation rate study specifically for age-restricted housing (Option #2 above) would
likely cost approximately $15,000 and would require staff time from all of the local
governments within Orange County and the school districts to compile raw data.
Option #1 would require County staff time to evaluate the information provided by the
developer. If the ordinance is amended, there would likely be a reduction in impact fees
collected (presuming age-restricted housing generates fewer students). The decrease would
correspond to the amount of new housing that qualifies as age restricted housing under that
amendment. Other housing type categories may increase if this type of housing is removed
from the previous aggregated housing totals.
Craig Benedict said in the upcoming budget, there is a request to review the student
generation rates based on the previous study, along with a bit of an expansion of that study.
He said an impact fee schedule would be created. He said the school impact fees do not
cover 100 percent of the cost of putting a student in a seat in a public school. He said the
school impact fee was anticipated to cover about sixty percent of the cost. He said he
anticipates that these fees could climb again.
Craig Benedict said if the Board would like an analysis of age restrictive housing to be
done in the short term, and information came out of that analysis, then it could be wrapped into
the school impact fee connection that will updated as soon as there is budget approval. He
said the developer is present at the meeting this evening and can answer any questions about
their proposal. He said approval from Chapel Hill has already been given, and time is of the
essence. He said the payment of impact fees is usually done in the Certificate of Occupancy
phase in Orange County.
Chair McKee said it is not typical policy to allow anyone but staff to speak at a work
session, but suggested allowing the developer permission to speak, in order to answer
questions.
Commissioner Rich asked if only age restrictive housing is being discussed tonight; as
she brought up the issue of tiny houses before.
Craig Benedict said age restrictive housing is the focus of tonight's discussion, and
what is being proposed, with the reanalysis of the school impact fees, would capture one
bedroom single family homes, which could include tiny houses. He said in the proposal for
next year's reanalysis, the single family will be broken down by bedroom number; and there
would likely be a lower fee for smaller houses.
Commissioner Price asked if the BOCC is meant to make a decision at the next regular
meeting about the proposed project.
Craig Benedict said the project is not within Orange County's jurisdiction. He said it
was approved by the Town of Chapel Hill in the fall of 2014. He said the product of the impact
fee ordinances, throughout the County, are single family dwellings, and the developer would
be paying about $11,000 per unit. He said the developer is asking the County to re-categorize
age restrictive housing so that a different fee may be assessed.
Commissioner Price asked if there is a time line for this to happen.
Craig Benedict said the proposal to analyze, that he just reviewed, would not get results
until October or November of this year.
Commissioner Price asked if the developer's time line would be affected.
Steve George, EpCon Communities developer and Attorney, said the plan is to break
ground in the next few weeks but they would not have their Certificates of Occupancy (CO)
until the first quarter of 2016.
Craig Benedict said the Town of Chapel Hill collects at the permit stage, but perhaps
the Town may delay to the time of the CO, which would be consistent with the overall County
Ordinance.
Steve George said if the impact fees could be collected at the CO, then there would be
time for the study to be conducted.
Commissioner Jacobs suggested that Bonnie Hammersley speak to the Manager of the
Town of Chapel Hill or ask Chair McKee to send letter to the Mayor, suggesting the delay of
the fee collection. He said if the development warrants a different fee, then this study is
overdue, as the fee is based on the student generation rates.
Commissioner Dorosin asked for clarification regarding the impact fee, and if it is meant
to be tied to actual student generation numbers, or if it is philosophically based in the value
placed on education in this County. He said is there an exemption when building a residential
nursing facility.
John Roberts said there have been several exceptions to the impact fee ordinance and
it is entirely appropriate for the Board to consider school generation information for educational
impact facility fees.
Craig Benedict said there is a proportionality connection to this, and Orange County is
one of the few counties in the State that has impact fees. He said staff would suggest having
data to back decisions. He said as new housing types come forward, new analysis should be
done.
Commissioner Dorosin said Orange County is not the only county to have impact fees,
and questioned if other counties are further along in this process.
Craig Benedict said Orange County is much farther ahead than the other counties, and
the leading edge in analyzing to this level.
Commissioner Jacobs said the other component to consider, besides legal and
philosophical, is political. He said what can be charged versus what is charged can be two
different things. He said the full freight of a public school seat is not charged.
Chair McKee asked the Developer if he could share the anticipated total cost of the
impact fees for all units.
The Developer said roughly $700,000.
Chair McKee asked the Board if this, or any other, exemption is made, and the pool of
money is reduced will the Board in turn increase the fees to cover the loss, putting the burden
on those who are not exempt.
Chair McKee said if this project receives an exemption due to being age-restrictive
housing then why not exempt couples or a single person that have no children and, therefore,
do not impact the schools.
Craig Benedict said the exception process of alleviating all fees is not being suggested.
He said the suggested route is not for this developer's project but for age-restricted housing.
He said it cannot be reviewed on a case by case basis, but rather a general category is being
considered.
Commissioner Rich said if a development project is not generating students it should
not be exempt from fees and the fees should be much lower.
Commissioner Rich asked if the developers have any affordable housing in the current
project.
The developer said they chose the payment in lieu option.
Commissioner Price asked if the price range for the homes is known, and if there is an
effort to make it affordable to seniors.
The developer said keeping the housing affordable would be desirable, but it is difficult
to achieve in Chapel Hill. He said the goal is to keep costs as low as possible, likely in the
$300,OOOs.
Commissioner Jacobs said this is age restrictive housing, which will likely not have
children, versus a single family home that can be sold to those who may have children. He
said that the label of age restriction does not mean that there will not be any children, noting
that there is an increasing trend of grandparents raising grandchildren.
Chair McKee said he is opposed to impact fees, period. He said they adversely affect
the affordability of all housing and that with lower-cost housing, the fees can total 10 to 20
percent of the cost of the house.
Commissioner Rich said it is time to gather data again and see what happens with the
non-generation of students.
Commissioner Jacobs said Orange County's payment in lieu policy for Parks and
Recreation needs to be reviewed.
The developer said he is confident of what the data will report. He said the only
concern for them is the timing. He said he understands from the discussion that Orange
County will help them work with Chapel Hill to allow construction to begin and act on the
results of the data as they are obtained.
Chair McKee said the Board can indicate to staff to start the study.
Craig Benedict said the study can be paid for either by the County or the developer.
Chair McKee said for Orange County to pay for this study.
Commissioner Rich said the study should be broad.
Chair McKee said to move forward with the study, to work with Chapel Hill to allow the
project to move forward, and to assess fees at the CO stage versus the permit stage.
5. Follow-up Discussion on Board Rules of Procedures - Petitions Process
Chair McKee said that Commissioner Jacobs petitioned the Board to review the petition
process. He said at their places is an excerpt from the January 30, 2015 Retreat Minutes.
Chair McKee said there have been more petitions in the past 6 to 12 months, and some
of these are requests for information and not petitions, and these should be sent to the
Manager to distribute to staff for responses. He gave some examples of petitions from Board
members from past meetings in order to see the difference between information requests
versus policy information/requests.
Chair McKee said he does not know if he, as Chair, or the Manager needed to address
these information requests more proactively at meetings.
Commissioner Jacobs said having a trusted Manager, who will do what the Board asks,
should be enough. He suggested Board members still be able to petition for all types of
information, but it should be Manager's responsibility to determine what she can simply have
staff answer versus what needs to go through the Chair and Vice Chair. He said it takes the
burden off the Chair of having to respond to so many requests while also relieving Board
members from worrying about the phrasing of their petitions, and allowing each member to
know what the others are considering.
Commissioner Rich said this process is a good idea but sometimes petitions come to
her while she is talking to others and she adds it to her petition list. She said, however, most
are not petitions, but rather information requests.
Bonnie Hammersley said she liked this idea and it would not be a burden as she keeps
notes throughout the meetings of all these requests. She said she often already has staff
working on many of the requests prior to the Chair/Vice Chair agenda review. She said there
are sometimes items that require the authority of the Board, and she cannot act without further
communication with the Board. She said the outcome of all requests, whether true petitions or
just request for information, will always be presented with full responses to the Board.
Chair McKee said Bonnie Hammersley often takes the lead on petition responses
during the agenda review.
Bonnie Hammersley said some petitions are complicated and will take more time but
she will make every effort to keep the petitioner updated from here forward.
Commissioner Rich said it is important to know that a petition is not lost, but is being
worked on, and for the Board to be updated.
Chair McKee said Board members do not have to wait until a meeting to make a
petition or information request. He said there is always the option of sending an email to the
Manager and copying the Board, but not engaging in conversation with the Board members.
He suggested adding John Roberts to the Board's single email address, to ensure that the
Board is following the open meetings law at all times.
Bonnie Hammersley said she is open to receiving phone calls as well.
Commissioner Jacobs said he hoped this tweak will cause less work for the Chair. He
said the Manager is knowledgeable and competent enough to navigate what she can handle,
and what may need to follow a different route.
Commissioner Jacobs asked if there is a way for the Board to act expeditiously on
certain petitions that are time sensitive. He said he is in favor of establishing a process. He
said he would support authorizing the Chair to act on the Board's behalf in those types of
situations.
John Roberts said a sentence could be included on all abstracts/agendas that, though
decisions are not usually made at work sessions, a decision (s) may be made in special
circumstances.
Commissioner Dorosin concurs with John Roberts. He said making decisions at public
meetings, that have been properly noticed, should be allowed. He said not doing so
unnecessarily hamstrings the Board. He said there are times when special circumstances or
emergencies arise. He said the high standards of transparency are not compromised by
making decisions at work sessions, as they are not secret meetings.
Commissioner Dorosin said he would also like for the Board to be able to act by
consensus by email as long as the open meetings law is not violated.
Commissioner Price agreed with Commissioner Jacobs and Commissioner Dorosin.
She said the Board can vote to suspend any existing rules at any time.
Commissioner Dorosin said the Board stands too much on ceremony and process. He
said he favors action in a timely fashion. He said there may not always be consensus and that
is alright.
Chair McKee said there is a place for policies and procedures.
A motion was made by Commissioner Jacobs, seconded by Commissioner Price to
adjourn the meeting at 10:56 p.m.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
Earl McKee, Chair
Donna Baker, Clerk to the Board