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ORANGE COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
BUDGET WORK SESSION
March 12, 2008
7:30 p.m.
The Orange County Board of Commissioners met for a Budget Work Session on
Wednesday March 12, 2008 at 7:30 p.m. at the Southern Human Services Center in Chapel Hill,
North Carolina.
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Chair Barry Jacobs and Commissioners Moses
Carey, Jr., Valerie P. Foushee, Alice Gordon, and Mike Nelson
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ABSENT:
COUNTY ATTORNEYS PRESENT: Geoffrey Gledhill
COUNTY STAFF PRESENT: County Manager Laura Blackmon and Assistant County
Managers Willie Best and Gwen Harvey, and Clerk to the Board Donna Baker. (All other staff
members will be identified appropriately below).
1. Discussion Regarding the County's Employee Benefits
Laura Blackmon said that she wanted to bring issues to the Board of County
Commissioners to discuss so that staff could get guidance as they go through the budget
process. She said that the Board and staff need to talk about an overall philosophy of the
benefits plan that the Board of County Commissioners has.
Human Resources Director Michael McGinnis introduced Benefits Manager Dianne
Shepherd. He said that he meets with every new employee that comes to Orange County
government and he asks them what they want from the organization and he also tells them that
he wants them to leave with more money and with better health. He said that employees are
responsible for their own health and the organization is responsible to provide opportunities,
options, and services to help them with their health. Benefits are very expensive to both the
County and to employees. He made a PowerPoint presentation, as shown below:
2008 Benefits Discussion
Purpose
Provide Current Status of County Benefits
Provide Comparison with Other Organizations
Discussion Points on Options
Contributory County Benefits
Health Care Plan
Dental Care Plan
EAP/Mental Health
Life Insurance Plan
401 (k) Deferred Compensation Plan
Current Health Care Plan
Vendor— NCACC with Administration through CIGNA
Two Fully Insured Plans
• HMO In-Network Plan (100% coinsurance after deductible of$250)
• PPO In and Out of Network Plan (90% coinsurance after $250 deductible)
Co-pays
• Physician/Specialists $15/$30 Pharmacy $10/$151$30
Monthly Premiums
• 9.7% Increase for 2008, Projected 10.5% for 2009
***County Pay 100% of Employee Monthly Premiums and 52% of Dependent Monthly Premium
based on HMO Plan
2008 Monthly Employee/County Health Care Cost
HMO Plan Total Cost County Cost Employee Cost
Single $445.06 $445.06 $0.00
EE + Spouse $938.66 $701.72 $236.94
EE + Child $623.06 $537.62 $85.44
EE + Children$858.98 $660.30 $198.68
Family $1335.18 $907.92 $427.26
PPO Plan
Single $522.08 $522.08 $0.00
EE + Spouse $1101.52 $701.72 $399.80
EE + Child $730 90 $537.62 $193.28
EE + Children$1007.54 $660.30 $347.24
Family $1566.18 $907.92 $658.26
Comparison with Others
Type of Plan Design
Large organizations offer multiple options and smaller organizations are more likely to offer
only one option
Orange County's co-pays, deductibles and co-insurances are comparable to most other
jurisdictions
Cost to Employee and Organization
Other jurisdictions share the cost of premiums with employees, including Alamance, Wake,
Davidson, Gaston, Guilford and Caldwell Counties
Other organizations provide reduced premium plans with higher co-pays, deductibles and co-
insurance to encourage healthier employee to select less costly options
85% of other counties offer a no cost option for employees
Health Care Options to Consider
Provide More Options in Plan Design
Encourage Employee Participation in Cost of Plan
Develop and Fund Formal Wellness Plan
Employee Assistance Program
Vendor: Magellan
Plan Design:
Three counseling sessions per incident/situation
Referral for child care/elder care and legal consultation
Administrative Cost of$1.54 per employee per month
Other Organizations
Most have between 3-12 visit Plans
Options to Consider
Replace child care/senior care referral with Financial Consultation Services
Increase #of sessions to 5 (increase cost to $1.61)
County Wellness Initiatives
No Formal Plan or Budget
Sports Plex Membership and Activities
All Initiatives Provided Through Health Care Plan
• HRA = 20% Participation
• Preventive Care: "10k Steps", OTC Smoking Cessation, "Passport to Wellness"
Wellness Committee Formed Several Years Ago, Only recently began meeting regularly.
Currently Applying for NCACC Wellness Grant
Comparison with Others
Mandatory Health Risk Appraisals
Exercise and Wellness Incentives
Reduction in Premium
— Time Off
— Gift Certificates
— Memberships
— Paid Time to Exercise
Weight Management Programs
Diabetes, Hypertension, Cancer Prevention
Free Generic Medication Programs
Dental Care Plan
Vendor Delta Dental
Type of Plan Self Insured
Plan Design: 100% for Preventive (2 per Year)
85% for Restorative
50% for Orthodontics ($2,000)
Monthly Dental Premiums Employee County
Employee $0 $24.30
Employee + Children $41.94 $24,30
Employee + Spouse $35.18 $24.30
Family $60.08 $24.30
Comparison with Others
All other organizations reimburse claims based on "Usual and Customary" rates while Orange
County reimburses according to a Table of Allowances that provides a lower reimbursement
and the employee pays a higher portions of the claim
Cost to fully implement Usual & Customary rates would result in a 170% increase over current
costs (from approximately$336,000 to $571,000)
Recommendation: Change to "Usual and Customary" rates incrementally, beginning with
Preventative benefits.
Group Life Insurance
Vendor: MetLife
Type of Plan: Basic Term w/AD&D
* Annual Salary up to $50,000
■ County Cost Based on $.22.5 per $1,000 Salary
Supplemental Employee Paid Options:
* Options up to $200,000 for employee, $100,000 for Spouse and $10,000 for Children
■ Dependent ($5,000) @ $1.86
401k Deferred Compensation Plan
Vendor: Prudential
County Plan Status:
• County Contribution $27.50 per Pay Period ($715 per year)
• Employee Contribution up to $15,500 per year
• Loan Program
Other Organization Comparisons
Options to Consider
Other Organization Comparisons
60 of 100 Counties Contribute to 401 (k)
Of those, 58 Provide Contribution Based on % of Salary (from 1% to 8%)
Michael McGinnis said that one of the biggest issues for employees is the 401 K and how
much the County contributes. He said that this is an excellent retention benefit and an area the
County should look at in reviewing the overall compensation plan. He said that Orange County
is out of sync with other counties in this respect.
Chair Jacobs asked if paying $27.50 per pay period to 401(k) is at the lower end of the
spectrum and Michael McGinnis said yes. Most counties provide a contribution based on a
percentage of salary.
Commissioner Gordon said that she will need to think about all of this information and
Laura Blackmon said that staff would be coming back in April with more information.
Commissioner Foushee said that she would like to see more specific details of 401(k)
programs of counties that are similar in size to Orange County. Laura Blackmon said that this is
a recruitment tool as well when a good benefit package is offered.
Commissioner Foushee said that there is a dichotomy between law enforcement
employees and non-law enforcement employees.
Chair Jacobs asked about childcare assistance Diane Shepherd said that she has not
had any requests. There is a flex-pay option that allows employees to pay for childcare on a
pre-tax basis.
Social Services Director Nancy Coston said that there is no waiting list for childcare
assistance at this time.
Chair Jacobs said that the Board has had discussions in the past about employees
having interest in more options for the health care benefit. He asked if the County could look at
offering a cafeteria plan and Michael McGinnis said yes, but it is not easy to administer and it is
not easy for an employee either.
Commissioner Carey said that the model of matching an employee's contribution to the
401(k) plan worked at his past place of employment.
Chair Jacobs said that the Democratic Party was supporting a resolution for collective
bargaining by public employees, and the NCACC is vigorously lobbying against it. Also,
Senator Dole is opposed to it. He asked if the County Commissioners had any interest in
supporting collective bargaining for employees. He said that he is interested in it.
Commissioner Carey said that he has supported this is the past.
Laura Blackmon said that the staff needs to discuss this first before moving forward
because there are some impacts on organizations. Chair Jacobs agreed. He said to inquire of
the Employees' Consortium as to their opinions on this and Laura Blackmon said that she
would.
2. Discussion Regarding the Proposed 2008-18 Capital Investment Plan (GIP)
a. County Owned Properties
Laura Blackmon made reference to Attachment 1 and said that they wanted to look at
these properties and proper disposal of some of these.
Commissioner Foushee said that this is good information but hard to read and some
addresses are not matching with the correct columns.
Purchasing and Central Services Director Pam Jones said that the first sheets are
buildings that are in action and will continue to be in action for a long period of time. The last
page includes the school properties that the County holds because of financing arrangements.
The last section is "Buildings Potentially for Disposal." This is just the buildings that people
have been moved out of, and there are no long-term uses for these buildings.
EMS/911 Center on New Hope Church Road: There was previous discussion about
this being a location for the Parks Operations space for the administration building. There has
been no decision. She said that the proposal was not to have this become the Parks
Operations Base, but that it be the administrative offices. The Parks Operations Base would be
more appropriate for Blackwood Farm.
Clerk of Court Annex on Churton St.: When the courthouse is finished, the Clerk of
Court will be moved and this building will be vacant. She gets at least two calls a month from
someone wanting to buy or lease the building, should the County put it up for sale.
Former ABC Building: This has previously been used as a storage facility before the
Tweeter Building. There is no need for it since the Tweeter Building was acquired. There is a
lot of interest in this building as well.
Graham Building: The Literacy Council is the primary user of this facility right now.
The Literacy Council has expressed an interest, that if the County has room, it would like to co-
locate and pay rent at the old Wal-Mart facility. This could be disposed of fairly easily because
there is interest.
Northside Human Services Center: This used to be occupied by the Department of
Aging and OPC Mental Health. There is a daycare facility still located there. The buildings are
older and would need a lot of upfitting. This could be an appropriate place for affordable
housing and the daycare could be kept onsite.
Purchasing and Central Services Building: This could be tied to the Whitted Human
Services Center and what is done with that, and whether or not the Heritage Center is actually
located. The Purchasing building is where there was original discussion about locating the
Heritage Center. This is also a very marketable facility.
Whitted Human Services Center: Staff can put together options for this facility and its
disposal.
Chair Jacobs asked if Orange County owned the body of water at Lake Orange and Pam
Jones said yes. He asked if Orange County did anything to exercise ownership rights other
than participate in the water system.
Geof Gledhill said that it is a public water supply and is utilized by the Town of
Hillsborough, Orange-Alamance Water System, Eno River, Piedmont Minerals, and Lake
Michie. Orange County does not have a water utility, but it owns the property and the right to
the water in the lake. There is an agreement between Orange County and those who use the
water that is a use agreement and Orange County is the manager of that agreement and
provides the water pursuant to that agreement.
Chair Jacobs asked about the Water Conservation Ordinance. Geof Gledhill said that
there is a difference between the Capacity Use Agreement and the Water Conservation
Ordinance. One is that the Capacity Use Agreement resulted from the State threatening to put
the Upper Eno River into a capacity use area, which would have the end result of the State
controlling the water. The users of the water got together and put together the Capacity Use
Agreement.
Commissioner Nelson said that all of these facilities need pros and cons for use and
divesting. He said that there should be a no-brainer category and a category with properties
that need more discussion. He recommends that staff identify issues that the Board of County
Commissioners needs to discuss and keep this conversation going forward.
Commissioner Carey agreed and encouraged staff to discuss with Hillsborough the
Whitted Building (and not as a gift).
Commissioner Gordon agreed with Commissioner Nelson and said that the ones on
North Churton and King Street should be sold and returned to the tax base. She thinks that the
County should get full market value from these buildings. She said that the Northside Human
Services Center requires more thought about what should be done. Regarding the EMS/911
center, she wants to explore the divesting of these facilities. She asked about the Government
Services Center Annex and the Planning and Agricultural building. She is not sure exactly what
is going to happen with these facilities.
Commissioner Gordon said that, by buying the Wal-Mart shopping center, they are
forming another County campus with a lot of additional space. Since the Whitted Center will
then be almost vacant, she thinks that the County should divest itself of the Whitted Center and
thereby obtain resources to pay for other capital projects.
Chair Jacobs asked if there has been any discussion with the school system about using
the Northside building as a school site. Pam Jones said that it was examined early on, and
because of the property size it was not pursued. Chair Jacobs said to at least offer to land bank
it as a school site.
Staff will bring back an analysis on this site.
Chair Jacobs said to add to the pros and cons the timing of some of these things.
Especially with the Whitted Building, there is no guarantee of when the County will be moved
out, so there needs to be a plan. He asked staff to go through the CIP and look at the functions
that are homeless or un-located, such as an administrative headquarters for Parks and
Recreation or a central office for schools, and consider using the Whitted Center for these rather
than building a new building. This could save money.
Pam Jones said that the County is closer than it has ever been to fulfilling the needs
listed in the space study.
Chair Jacobs asked if the County has communicated lately with the Town of Chapel Hill
about the downtown Chapel Hill post office/court facility. Laura Blackmon said not within the
last month or so. More will be known after the completion of the justice facilities.
Commissioner Gordon said that it would be helpful to have listed what these buildings
are used for and make the document more readable. She requested that be accomplished and
the resulting document be given to the Commissioners.
b. Tentative Proposed Debt Issuance Plans To Meet Unfunded County And
Schools' Capital Needs
Laura Blackmon said that this item came out of the March 6th County Commissioners'
meeting regarding the purchase of the old Wal-Mart. Attachment 2 addresses the tentative
proposed debt issuance plans. The Proposed Issue #1 for alternative financing includes Animal
Services Facility Construction, Remainder of 2001 Voter Approved Bonds, and Efland Sewer
Completion.
Commissioner Gordon asked about the detail for the Efland Sewer Completion. Donna
Coffey said that this is part of what the Board of County Commissioners spoke to County
Engineer Paul Thames about on February 19th when he brought a report back to the Board that
identified that, in order to complete the project to the point that the Commissioners wanted it
completed, an additional $1.7 million was needed.
Chair Jacobs said that the Board said that there would be a public hearing, and he thinks
that the total cost could go up to more than $2 million.
Donna Coffey made reference to Attachment 2 and Proposed Issues #1 and #2 and said
that these are already programmed into the debt service and would not affect the debt capacity
charts. The next two pages have debt service that is not yet programmed. Page 2 lists what
the County could afford, given the debt service capacity, for the next four years and for the last
four years of the CIP. This is a tentative proposal to meet unfunded needs of the County and
schools. For 2009-2013, there is a debt service face value capacity of$154 million that can be
issued. Proposal Issue #4 is where the old Wal-Mart facility fits in at $25.3 million. This would
be the purchase of Hillsborough Commons, costs to upfit the building, and construction of a
15,000-square foot addition to the Southern Human Services Center to relocate the dental
health clinic from Carr Mill Mall as well as provide health services.
Donna Coffey reviewed lines 10-16 on page 4. She said that this is a very aggressive
proposal.
Laura Blackmon said that this proposal would incur some tax rate increases and the
Board may want to wait until after the May 6th referendum to determine what should be on this
list, should the voters approve the Land Transfer Tax.
Chair Jacobs said that two-thirds of the $150 million is going to one school system and
the other one is getting only one-tenth, and this does not seem equitable. He just raises this as
a point. He said that the Board has talked to the Planning Director about reexamining the
impact of Mebane's growth on the Orange County School System as far as whether or not it is
going to project another school.
Laura Blackmon said that this issue would be addressed in the next phase.
Donna Coffey said that the SAPFO—TAC met and they all did acknowledge that the
numbers for student membership are based on historical growth and that OCS is getting closer
to needing a new elementary school. Line #29 in Proposed Issue #5 has an allocation of$40
million for OCS.
Chair Jacobs made reference to Proposed Issue #5 and said that McDougle Middle
School Auditorium could not possibly cost as much as a middle school. Lisa Stuckey said that
Line #26 for Elementary#12 should be $42,895,000, if inflation is factored in. Line #27, the
auditorium, should be $6,611,000.
Commissioner Gordon said that some of these numbers are not correct and the staff
should ask the CHCCS staff to make sure the right numbers are in the chart. She said that she
is concerned about the projected completion date of Elementary School #11 of 2011-12. She
said that CHCCS has said that they want this school in 2010-11. Her understanding is that if
this school does not open on schedule, then the Chapel Hill-Carrboro City Schools will have to
stop issuing CAPS.
Commissioner Gordon said that if the County could somehow fund the $30 million
elementary school a different way, then that would make the bond issue $98 million, which is
more in concert with the kind of bond referenda that have been done. She said that there is
very little time to get this on line before the SAPFO would require that CHCCS stop issuing
CAPS. She wants to figure out how to fund this school.
Laura Blackmon said that staff was only trying to show the Board of County
Commissioners what the top ceiling of debt was. There will have to be a tax rate increase to
fund the entire debt capacity.
Chair Jacobs made reference to items #15 (County-Parks) and #16 (County-Land
Banking) and clarified that parks is park development. He said that land banking has a
connotation that might be different than land purchase and easement purchase. He said that if
it is land banking for schools, then it is not a County project. He asked Laura Blackmon to break
down the land banking issues between schools and County.
Commissioner Foushee said that she was thinking that land banking could also include
affordable housing. Related to that, the Greene Tract has 18.7 acres that is earmarked for
affordable housing.
Donna Coffey made reference to the last page and the major projects not included in
this: Central Administration Building for both school systems, conversion of Lincoln Center to
Educational Center, County parks beyond what is currently programmed, Parks and Recreation
Administration Building, and Parks Operations Base.
Commissioner Gordon made reference to line #14, CHCCS technology, and suggested
adding "/Culbreth Science Labs". This is a project that has been on the books for a long time
and she does not want it forgotten. She also wants to flag the Seymour Center expansion, the
Wellness Center, and the adult day center which are about $2.5 million. She also wants to
consider the adult day center at the Seymour Center.
Laura Blackmon said that once the projects are started in the first four years, and as they
see changes in the future, then some projects might be moved up.
Commissioner Gordon said that the Town of Chapel Hill has a committee to look at the
old post office and the County might need to plan that it will have to fund a justice facility at
some point (not within the eight-year period).
Commissioner Gordon asked for a report from the school systems about any updates on
needs. She is not clear about the needs for OCS.
Chair Jacobs suggested that line #38 say, "County parks, open space, and land
banking."
Commissioner Gordon said that the Human Services Reserve should be used for the old
Wal-Mart facility. However, she does not want to lose the Southwest Library.
Commissioner Gordon said that she thought that the Board was going to talk about the
Land Transfer Tax issue tonight and how this can help solve some of the County's needs if
passed. Laura Blackmon said that the staff is looking at debt capacity and the cap, but how it is
paid for is another issue.
Donna Coffey said that the unfunded needs and the debt tied to this is going to be
greater than what a land transfer tax would bring in.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:47 p.m.
Barry Jacobs, Chair
Donna S. Baker, CMC
Clerk to the Board