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MINUTES
ORANGE COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
WORK SESSION
MARCH 24, 2005
7:30 p.m.
The Orange County Board of Commissioners met for a work session on Thursday,
March 24, 2005 at 7:30 p.m. at the Southern Human Services Center in Chapel Hill,
North Carolina.
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Chair Moses Carey, Jr. and
Commissioners Valerie P. Foushee, Alice M. Gordon, Steve Halkiotis, and Barry Jacabs
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ABSENT:
COUNTY ATTORNEY PRESENT: Geoffrey Gledhill and S. Sean Borhanian
COUNTY STAFF PRESENT: County Manager John M. Link, Jr., Assistant County
Manager Gwen Harvey and Deputy Clerk to the Board David Hunt {All other staff
members will be identified appropriately below)
NOTE: ALL DOCUMENTS REFERRED TO IN THESE MINUTES ARE IN THE
PERMANENT AGENDA FILE IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
The Chair called the meeting to order at 7:35 p.m. He made reference to the
request to remove the appointments far the Recreation and Parks Advisory Council.
Commissioner Halkiotis said that he continues to be amazed with the
deterioration of what he thought was the democratic process in Orange County. He
made reference to the lavender sheet and the action taken by of Representative Faison,
in light of the fact that the Chair wrote him a letter and asked that he understand that
there is a process that Orange County follows. He said that Representative Faison is
obviously intent on ignoring Orange County's process that has been in place far a long
time, and has already filed a bill to expand the Board of County Commissioners to
provide for district election of most of its members. He asked if this was some kind of
dictatorship and who put this together. He said that there was no public hearing and this
was not democracy. He suggested putting a letter together in very strong terms and
send it to the rest of the legislative group and everyone else in the North Carolina
House. Commissioner Jacobs seconded this.
Chair Carey said that he did send a letter to Representative Faison, requesting
that he leave local matters to local folk. He thought it would be disruptive and divisive if
Representative Faison proceeded to file a bill in the legislature. He agreed with sending
a letter to the other delegates and house members.
Commissioner Jacobs said that this action is also antithetical to the goals of the
North Carolina Association of County Commissioners. He asked that NCACC add to
their legislative delegation opposition to this action.
1. Appointments
Chair Carey said that the Recreation and Parks Advisory Council appointments
were removed, but also, prior to this meeting, when it was thought that these
appointments were going to be on the March 31St agenda, the plan was to remove the
Planning Board appointments because of some confusion about the definition of one of
the policy items. After it was decided to remove that appointment, he did some research
and decided to ask the Board to consider the document that he distributed (email an the
green sheet). He thought that, rather than deferring discussion of all of the issues
related to board appointments to the meeting when this discussion will take place, he
thought he would accelerate this one item because it would allow them to move ahead
with the appointment of the Planning Board members as soon as possible.
Commissioner Halkiotis made reference to the ABC Board and the report from
the ABC Board Chair and said that it was missing one important issue -the gross sales
far the year. The answer was $10 million, but the board chair had to ask a paid staff
member for this very important number. He said that he is not sure the Board of County
Commissioners does a thorough enough job of looking at the responsibilities of a
particular board and the skill set that people should have to serve an a board like this.
He made reference to the new mental health reorganization and the millions of dollars
that this group will be looking at for the three-county area. He is concerned about
getting enough information about the people that are applying for the boards.
Commissioner Gordon would like to hold off for one more meeting, because she
wanted to confer with the Clerk on what would be helpful administratively. She would
like to have a better idea of what the problem is and what the solutions might be.
Commissioner Foushee asked that the decision on this not be delayed for more
than one meeting.
Commissioner Halkiotis said that he supports what the County Attorney said
about what constitutes a full term. He said that he does not want to reappoint Crauford
Goodwin to a full term.
Affordable Housina Advisory Board -Three appointments
Commissioner Foushee nominated Betty Tam-Davidson, seconded by
Commissioner Jacobs.
Commissioner Jacobs nominated Gary Gaddy.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
Commissioner Jacobs nominated Artie Franklin, seconded by Commissioner
Halkiotis.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
{Position numbers were not specified in the nominations)
ABC Board -One new appointment
Chair Carey nominated Passion Jones, seconded by Commissioner Jacobs.
Commissioner Halkiotis asked that the Board brainstorm and submit to the Chair
any boards that have a big financial responsibility and ask that the Clerk put together a
background sketch on each person on thane boards and the skills that they bring.
Commissioner Jacobs suggested having questions for applicants of those boards
with more financial responsibility.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
Animal Services Advisory Board -Initial appointments
This item was tabled in order to get recommendations from the Towns of Chapel
Hill, Carrboro, and Hillsborough.
Arts Commission -Five new appointments
Commissioner Gordon nominated the four recommendations from the Arts
Commission: Lauri Alexander, Tammy Lambert, Randy Owen, and Katherine Poulos to
positions expiring March 31, 2007. Commissioner Halkiotis seconded.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
Commissioner Gordon nominated Tyler Dockery, seconded by Commissioner
Halkiotis to a term expiring March 31, 2007.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
Chapel Hill Board of Adiustment -Two new appointments
Commissioner Gordon nominated Peter Strongoli for position #13, with a term
expiring March 31, 2008, seconded by Commissioner Jacobs.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
Commissioner Jacobs nominated James Stroud to position #11, with a term
expiring March 31, 2008, seconded by Commissioner Foushee.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
Chapel Hill Planning Board -Two new appointments
Commissioner Jacobs nominated Margaret Campion for position #8, with a term
expiring June 30, 2006, seconded by Commissioner Gordan.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
The second position was left open for additional recruiting.
Hillsborough Board of Adjustment- One new appointment
Commissioner Halkiotis said that Barrie Wallace was put on the Hillsborough
Planning Board a couple of years ago and there was some controversy attached with
this vote. Barrie Wallace is on the applicant interest list. He asked if it was appropriate
to put Ms. Wallace on the Board of Adjustment and the Planning Board.
This appointment was tabled awaiting clarification.
Human Relations Commission -Five new appointments
Commissioner Gordon nominated the five recommended candidates: Sabrina
Covington-Farrar for the Town of Hillsborough, and Artie Franklin, Augustin Gnamien,
Steven Clemens, and Randee Haven-O'Donnell for the At-Large positions.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
Orange County Recreation and Parks Council -New Appointments
Removed.
Solid Waste Advisory Board Work Group -One appointment
Commissioner Halkiotis nominated Barry Jacobs, seconded by Commissioner
Gordon.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
2. County Facilities Needs Report
Budget Director Donna Dean made the PawerPoint presentation.
2005 County Facilities Needs
Orange County, North Carolina
March 24, 2005
Tonight's Presentation
^ Overview
^ A Look at County Needs
^ Board Questions, Comments, Discussion
2005 County Facilities Needs Report
^ Detailed report of current county facilities needs
. Includes needs that range from major capital repairs with anticipated costs of
hundreds of thousands of dollars to minor structural or aesthetic improvements
with anticipated costs in the hundreds of dollars
. County facilities needs total around $18 million over the next ten years
^ Does not prioritize County needs
. County capital priorities to be identified during the upcoming Capital Investment
Plan planning process
^ Detailed report of current county facilities needs
. Includes needs that range from major capital repairs with anticipated costs of
hundreds of thousands of dollars to minor structural or aesthetic improvements
with anticipated costs in the hundreds of dollars
^ Does not address future space needs of County departments
. Presentation scheduled for March 31
^ Daes not prioritize County needs
. County capital priorities to be identified during the upcoming Capital Investment
Plan planning process
Contents of Report
^ Two Major Sections of Report
^ County Facilities Needs Summary (located on pages 1 through 15 of report)
. Offers alphabetical summary by building of individual facility needs
. Total Requested Column reflects ten-year funding need
^ Individual Facility Projects
. Provides detailed information of needs at individual facilities
County Facilities Needs
Public Works Director Wilbert McAdoo explained the pictures and noted the
capital facilities needs. Some of the needs include floor replacement, painting, windows
in the recreation department, drainage repair, brick work for retaining walls, additional
recycling containers and concrete pads far solid waste convenience centers.
Discussion ensued between Commissioners Jacobs and Halkiotis about
purchasing the sites for convenience centers instead of leasing them.
Commissioner Gordon asked Wilbert McAdoo to think of some way, while the
convenience centers are being refurbished, to make the recyclables accessible, because
there is no way to get at them at this time.
Commissioner Foushee asked about how many sites the County owns and it was
answered only one out of six sites.
Wilbert McAdoo continued with his presentation of needs: painting at the old
section of the jail in Hillsborough.
Commissioner Halkiotis said that it would be important to have a listing of all
historical buildings in the County's possession. The old buildings need to be painted very
frequently because the paint does pat adhere well to the older wood. He said that the
County should be putting aside $40,000 a year, just to be painting these old buildings.
Wilbert McAdoo continued with his presentation of needs: needs at Court Street
Annex and Homestead Center, drainage repair at Purchasing and Central Services,
waterproofing needs.
Commissioner Halkiotis made reference to the person that fixed a problem at
Efland-Cheeks Elementary School at the old wing. This person put in some new drains.
He suggested that Wilbert McAdoo talk to this person.
Wilbert McAdoo continued talking about the needs: restroom needs {built in the
50's}, roofing repair needs.
Commissioner Halkiotis asked how much was needed every year for the
strategic roofing plan. Wilbert McAdoo said that their experience has been $300-
500,000. This amount is budgeted.
Donna Dean painted out that this year there is no money budgeted far roofing
repairs. Across the nation, local governments have been faced with funding cuts and
mandates, so some big-ticket items have been postponed. She said that far the current
year, the available pay-as-you-go funding for County capital needs was around $2.3
million. After being faced with the cuts at the last minute last year and with the
mandates, $1.6 million of this was redirected with operational items in the general fund.
Commissioner Halkiotis said that, in his opinion, the County has been focusing in
on school needs and has ignored its own needs. He is not going to say that state and
federal funding cuts and unfunded mandates have put the County in this place. He said
that the County has put itself in this place by turning its back on its own buildings
because it has given and given to both school systems.
County Capital and Facility Funding
^ State and federal funding cuts and implementation of unfunded mandates over
the last 4 to 5 years, have forced local governments to redirect funds that would
normally address capital needs to fund operational needs
. In many instances, facility repairs and maintenance items have been postponed
causing capital needs to mount
^ As a point of reference, available pay-as-you-ga funding for county capital
needs in the current fiscal year totaled $2.3 million
. $1.6 million of that amount was redirected to the County's General Fund to "make
up" funding losses and increased mandates
. In the end, $750,000 was allocated to the CIP for the following items
. Fulfill our funding commitment to Sportsplex ($400,000), provide for Information
Technology initiatives {$350,000) and purchase mandated Jail equipment
{$50,000)
Board Discussion
Commissioner Halkiotis asked about the County's total recurring capital budget
for County government. He asked if it was a fixed amount, like for the two school
systems and Donna Dean said no. Commissioner Halkiotis said that it is important to
note that the County Commissioners give bath school systems over $2 million in
recorded capital funds for maintaining their buildings, and the County does not give
anything to itself for this purpose.
John Link pointed out that, because of the funding lass from the State the last
two or three years, the County has not been able to fund the total recurring capital to the
school systems.
Continuation of presentafion above.
Commissioner Gordon asked about operational needs and if this was referring to
small capital needs. She asked if there was not any money within departments to do
small things like a $500 repair. Donna Dean said that it does not mean small capital.
She said that it goes back to using the pots of money to fund the cuts. They have
redirected any monies that would be going to County capital projects to fund operational
needs like Medicaid, etc.
Commissioner Gordon asked about the small, routine maintenance projects and
if there was no money in the budgets of the departments for this. John Link said that the
focus for repairing and painting buildings has been through Public Works. Furniture
needs and the like come from the department budget, but items related to the actual
building are handled through Public Works.
Wilbert McAdoo said that they have a limited amount of funding for building
maintenance. The basic needs are to keep the building dry, provide utilities, keep it
clean, etc. Things such as painting and carpet are lower on the priority list.
Commissioner Foushee said that she has visited most of these buildings and
was shocked at the state of most of them. She asked if there have been any air quality
studies in these buildings. She said that some of these buildings appeared to have poor
air quality.
Wilbert McAdoo said that there have been some air quality analyses done.
There were some minor issues. They have tried to increase airflow where they can,
which helps air quality.
Commissioner Foushee said that it was surprising to her that there is not a
recurring capital budget for maintenance of facilities. She would support a recurring
capital budget for the next CIP.
Commissioner Halkiotis said that the County has not been a very good steward
of its own buildings because it has been taking care of everybody else's buildings. He
asked if any of the roofs were leaking right now and Wilbert McAdoo said no. There
were some minor things, but they have been taken care of.
Commissioner Halkiotis said that he has been looking at some of the County
buildings and there are some major rotten wood issues at the new courthouse. He has
also noticed indoor air quality issues with plants in the Government Services Center.
Some of the employees are bringing in botanical gardens into their offices, but they are
introducing damp soils, mold, and mildew. He said that employees might need to be
taught how to live in harmony with the HVAC systems.
Wilbert McAdoo said that the Solutous Group has agreed to come and talk to the
Risk Management Team in April to start the process of training.
Commissioner Jacobs said that this is where he misses some kind of priority
order to the budget. He would like to have a better sense of the major issues in the
budget.
Jahn Link said that the staff has talked about giving the County Commissioners
the building blacks to the budget in terms of increments. There will be more detail about
this next week during the budget presentation.
Commissioner Gordon said that it is clear to her that a recurring capital budget is
needed.
Commissioner Jacobs made reference to the new courthouse and said that some
of the needs could be folded into the Justice Facilities expansion and Donna Dean said
that is the plan. The CIP and debt issuance schedule will show this.
Commissioner Jacobs made reference to the Northern Center improvements and
asked if anything was budgeted far this. Donna Dean said that at the present time there
are sufficient funds to cover the wastewater treatment system.
Commissioner Jacobs said that it seems it would be easier to tear down the
Planning Department and start over since there are so many improvements needed.
This building used to be a supermarket.
3. Orange County Animal Shelter -Six Month Progress Report
Assistant County Manager Gwen Harvey made this presentation. She
introduced Shelter Director Joe Pulcinella, who introduced his staff.
Gwen Harvey summarized the information in the notebook. The Board of County
Commissioners determined that there would be a new governance, management, and
leadership structure put in place for the animal shelter. This occurred on July 1, 2004.
She pointed out the organizational chart and the Transitional Operations Procedure
Manual.
Section 3 addresses operating performance and Section 4 addresses the fiscal
analysis. Section 5 is a summary of work in progress and includes some challenges
such as staffing requirements, spaytneuter surgical services, medical carettreatment of
the animals, placement rates, publicity and public image, volunteerism and private
donations, and targeted spaytneuter outreach.
She said that there was a seamless transition on July 1 St and there was no
interruption of service. There is a good team in place. She believes that there are
improved relations with a lot of the community stakeholders.
Commissioner Halkiotis commended the staff on a fine job. He asked where
APS operations are currently. Jae Pulcinella said that they are in a facility in Mebane.
They have opened a restricted admission facility.
Commissioner Halkiotis asked if there had been a significant change in activity
since July 1St as far as animals being dropped off and adapted. Joe Pulcinella said that
the statistics dropped across the board after July and they are trying to figure out why.
The two theories are that it is a statistical phenomenon because of improved record
keeping and that the public is confused about the change.
Commissioner Halkiotis asked about the break point where it would be cost
effective to have an in-house veterinarian as opposed to contract services. Gwen
Harvey said that they are going to be investigating this.
Commissioner Foushee said that it might be helpful for the County
Commissioners to know what has been spent year to date for surgical expenses. She
asked if any other services were contracted beyond spay/neuter and Joe Pulcinella said
no. The ballpark figure far spay/neuter services will came out to approximately $100,000
for the year.
Commissioner Jacobs suggested putting in the tax bill that the shelter is open
and operating. He asked about the procedures for identifying lost animals. He asked if
there was a capability to put pictures on the website for this purpose. Joe Pulcinella said
that they have not been able to implement this yet. They do have adoptable animals on
the pet finder website.
Commissioner Gordon asked about the mast important thing that needs to be
done in the next six months. Joe Pulcinella said that the outreach program is very
important. He would like to go into the community and talk about the resources available
far spay/neuter.
The County Commissioners commended the staff for all the work on this
transition.
Commissioner Halkiotis said that as soon as the Animal Services Advisory Board
is in place, there needs to be a design committee to work on the new facility. John Link
agreed.
4. Follow-upon Item from January 11, 2405 Listening Session
Chair Carey said that this item came to the Board's attention by Jay Bryan on at
least three occasions. The last occasion was at the January 11t" listening session. He is
going to ask that the Baard defer decision on this item. He thinks it is incumbent upon
the Board to tell the citizens that the Board will or will not do something about this. It has
to do with acommunity-building plan.
Commissioner Halkiotis would like to discuss this at length at a future meeting,
because he feels the same way.
Cammissianer Jacobs suggested talking about it before the Assembly of
Governments meeting.
With no further items to discuss, the meeting was adjourned at 9:35 p.m.
Moses Carey, Jr., Chair
Donna S. Baker
Clerk to the Board