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MINUTES
ORANGE COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
WORK SESSION with
SOLID WASTE ADVISORY BOARD
February 8, 2005
5:30 p.m.
The Orange County Board of Commissioners met for a Joint Work Session with the Solid Waste
Advisory Board on Tuesday, February 8, 2005 at 5:30 p.m. at the Southern Human Services
Center In Chapel Hill, North Carolina.
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Chair Moses Carey and Commissioners Valerie
P. Foushee, Alice M. Gordon, Stephen H. Halkiotis and Barry Jacobs
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ABSENT:
COUNTY ATTORNEYS PRESENT: S. Sean Borhanian
COUNTY STAFF PRESENT: County Manager John M. Link, Jr., Assistant County
Manager Rod Visser and Clerk to the Board Donna Baker (All other staff members will be
identified appropriately below}
SOLID WASTE ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS: Chair Jan Sassaman, Vice -Chair AI
Vickers, and members Bonnie Norwood, Randolph Kabrick, Joe Clayton, Linda Bowerman, and
B.J. Tipton
SOLID WASTE ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS ABSENT: Remus Smith
SOLID WASTE STAFF: Gayle Wilson, Blair Pollock, Rebecca Holdway, Paul Spire, Mike
Meagher, Rob Taylor, Muriel Williman, Sean Evanson
NOTE: ALL DOCUMENTS REFERRED TO IN THESE MINUTES ARE IN THE PERMANENT
AGENDA FILE IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE. ALL RECORDINGS OF THE MEETING WILL BE
KEPT FOR 5 YEARS.
1. Dinner
2. Board of Commissioner Comments/Questions
The meeting began at 6:05 p.m.
Chair Carey said that Commissioner Gordon will be late for this meeting because
she has another commitment.
Everyone introduced themselves.
3. BOCC Requested Updates
a. Eubanks Road Master Plan {including new solid waste operations center,
C&D resale facility, Greene Tract conservation easements, new C&D
landfill}
Rod Visser said that abaut three years ago the Board of County Commissioners
approved about four to six proposed elements of this master plan, and the staff has
been working from this since then. He made reference to the Greene Tract Work Group
recommendations that were sent to the three governing boards that own the property,
which were that the 104 acres that remain in joint ownership should be split between
primary uses (15 acres for affordable housing and the other 85+ acres for open space}.
One of the recommendations ofthe work group was that same type of conservation
easement should protect the open space. All three governing boards received this
report and accepted the recommendations from the work group. The recommendations
specifically proposed that the conservation easement be implemented sometime
between July 1, 2003 and July 1, 2005. In talking with Environment and Resource
Conservation Director David Stancil, there is an informal agreement with Triangle Land
Conservancy that they would be the appropriate party to execute the conservation
agreement. The next steps are for David Stancil to get back in touch with Triangle Land
Conservancy to formalize an agreement.
Commissioner Jacobs asked when the repayment had to be in and Rod Visser said
that there is a direct tie in the recommendations to the conservation easement, which is
sited as the "triggering mechanism" for reimbursements from the three governing
boards back to the Solid Waste Enterprise Fund.
Solid Waste Director Gayle Wilson gave a brief overview of the master plan. He
went over the "Landfill Neighborhood Map." He then went aver the "Solid Waste Facility
Master Plan" map. He said that with the adoption of the Regulated Recycling Materials
Ordinance, they upgraded the mulching and recycling area. There is also a
maintenance building, a recycling pad, and the area where the new C&D landfill is
constructed. Across Eubanks Raad are the existing landfill that will close in 2010 and
the Hazardous Household Waste (HHW} electronic recycling area. What is not
approved relating to the master plan is a location for the transfer station. Across the
road from the four-acre property of the proposed new solid waste operation center is an
area that the County Commissioners have approved for a potential future construction
material resale store. He pointed out the buffer areas far the landfill. Regarding the
operations center, the staff will be coming to the County Commissioners on March 1St to
bring a concept plan forward. If the plan is approved, they will come back at a
subsequent meeting to ask for approval of a contract for an architect. He said that the
staff would be discussing some ideas for land clearing and storm debris in the future,
because the facility could not handle a Hurricane Fran-level storm in terms of storm
debris.
Regarding the construction material resale store, they have run into a problem that
the location just north was approved in the buffer area of the new C&D landfill. They
received same feedback from the Division of Waste Management, and they did not say
that it would be prohibited from being put there, but they raised several issues.
Originally, the building was supposed to be 5,000-6,000 square feet, but now Habitat for
Humanity has submitted a rough layout that indicates a building of about 11,000 square
feet, and the buffer area is not suitable for something this large. At the Board's
direction, the staff can lank for alternate locations for this structure. The Greene Tract is
off limits for any solid waste uses.
Regarding landfill closure, a closure plan must be developed and submitted to the
State for approval. There is currently no funding or plan projected for the closure, but it
would cost approximately $2.2 million. This includes placement of three feet of soil over
the top of the landfill site, a synthetic liner, a series of methane gas vents, and a
vegetative layer of material suitable for supporting grass and other plants to limit
erosion. The sail has to have certain engineering properties and some off-site clay
might have to be purchased. Also, as part of the closure, there will be about $1 million
of equipment that will be eliminated permanently from the equipment replacement
b. 3-R Fee
Gayle Wilson made reference to the memo in the agenda packet that outlines the
current status of the 3-R fee. The revenue generated to date has increased to
$2,379,060. The collection rate is now 94.4%. The compliance with the fee has
exceeded the expectations. There have been a limited number of appeals with 93
received and 76 granted. It has been a successful operation.
Rod Visser pointed out the 3-R fee assistance program, and said that staff has
collaborated to develop criteria to assist those citizens that have trouble paying the fee.
So far, there are 72 citizens and $3,500 total paid in the assistance program.
Chair Carey asked for Rod Visser to provide information on the criteria for
assistance.
Chair Carey asked how appeals are handled and Gayle Wilson said that there is an
appeal form and the staff investigates the appeal and they make a recommendation to
him. If the appeal is granted, the money is refunded or they are released from the
obligation.
Commissioner Foushee asked on what basis a resident could appeal. Gayle Wilson
said that if they are assessed an urban curbside fee and they are in a rural curbside
area. The rural curbside fee is less. Also, if there is more than one structure on a
property and the resident is charged more than one fee, the resident can appeal if the
building is for storage, etc. The appeals are only for technical errors.
At this time, Rod Visser addressed items e, f, and g.
g. Landfill Capacity
Rad Visser made reference to the memo in the agenda packet. The existing C&D
landfill is just about at capacity, but the new C&D landfill is ready. The mixed solid
waste landfill has a capacity of five years.
f. Equipment Replacement Schedule
This information is provided in the agenda packet. Most of the equipment is needed
to underwrite the County's current Ten-Year Solid Waste Management Plan.
e. Land Clearing Debris Recycling
The staff is working with a Commissioner work group that includes Chair Carey and
Commissioner Jacobs to develop some options for people involved in land clearing
activity that cannot afford to pay the fee to bring the debris to the County's C&D landfill.
They are also trying to come up with a proposal to deal with storm debris.
d. Regulated Recyclable Materials Ordinance (RRMO]
This has been in effect since C}ctober 2002 and there has been a 50% reduction in
the amount of C&D waste at the C&D landfill.
Commissioner Gordon made reference to the equipment replacement schedule and
said that 2007-2008 is the last year for the MSW landfill purchases and then there is the
transfer station. She asked what has been done to get ready for the transfer station.
The staff has begun a preliminary analysis, and once they reach a certain point, it
will be brought to the SWAB far discussion.
Commissioner Gordon asked why the SWAB's recommendation has not been taken
to the other jurisdictions for approval. She does not think there should be a separate
group. Gayle Wilson said that there were strong expressions of interest of participation
in a process to make sure that some municipalities' concerns are adequately
addressed.
Chair Carey would like to know what the SWAB thinks about this.
B. J. Tipton said that one thought was to have some dialogue between the
jurisdictions and professional staff so that there is same buy in before the stakeholders
have to decide.
Jan Sassaman said that the SWAB members are representatives and they do the
best for those wham they represent. If they get more active representation from elected
officials, then there can be a buy in at the planning process and it would go a lot
smoother. With regard to Gayle Wilson's proposal, he thinks there should be more
involvement of the SWAB. He suggested having two SWAB members on the work
group so that there would be an equal weighting. He said that for this to work, the
representatives ofthe municipalities must be elected officials and not just two citizens.
He said that the SWAB members have been educating themselves an these issues for
years and some of them are professionals in the area of solid waste.
Commissioner Jacobs suggested that the SWAB have a meeting and invite two
elected officials from each elected body. Anew group would not have to be formed for
this.
Chair Carey said that there could still be a process for stakeholders to have input.
Commissioner Jacobs suggested using the Assembly of Governments meeting to
get this started.
John Link said that the intersect between the interlocal agreement and the three-
yearplan talks about how to increase the percentage of recyclables that are diverted.
He asked if this gets to the point of discussing a Material Recycling Facility (MRF}. He
thinks it would be a good idea to refresh us collectively as jurisdictions as to what the
interlocal agreement says and where it stops and where the three-year plan begins.
Gayle Wilson and Jan Sassaman agreed.
Jan Sassaman said that the focus of Chapel Hill's plan was that it continued to call
far 61 % recycling, but did not state a means to achieve this. He said that Chapel Hill
wants to keep the options open for a pay as you throw system, and the SWAB has a
problem with this system if it is implemented by only one jurisdiction.
Commissioner Jacobs painted out that April 28th is the Assembly of Governments
meeting.
Randy Kabrick said that he would not like to take them away from the process that
has already been set up. He agreed with adding some elected officials.
Bonnie Norwood said that she believes it would be easier to bring elected officials
into their group to educate them.
schedule. The transfer station must be ready to receive waste the day of the closure of
the landfill.
Commissioner Jacabs thanked the Solid Waste Advisory Board for all of their work.
He asked about the resale stare and the passibility of storing materials recovered from
deconstruction. He asked if this would be part of the same facility that Habitat might
use, ar if it would be a separate building. Gayle Wilson said that it would make sense to
consolidate this into one activity, but he is not sure how much ownership Habitat would
want to take for the large amounts of incoming material. He expects that Habitat would
have stringent standards as to what they would accept.
Commissioner Jacabs asked if the State allows roads through the buffer and Gayle
Wilson said yes.
Commissioner Halkiotis asked about the volume of usable debris coming off
construction sites that Habitat can reasonably sell. Gayle Wilson said that the overall
volume of C&D material is significantly less than four or five years ago. The Regulated
Recycling Materials C}rdinance has been effective. There are some haulers that haul
their debris elsewhere to evade the ordinance altogether.
Commissioner Halkiotis asked about the proposal to go to an 11,000-square foot
building. Gayle Wilson said that it was Habitat's proposal. Commissioner Halkiotis
asked who would pay for the structure and Gayle Wilson said that it was his
understanding that the County would pay for it.
Commissioner Gordan arrived at 6:30 p.m.
Gayle Wilson answered several clarifying questions about the proposed resale store.
Commissioner Halkiotis said that he and Commissioner Jacabs represented the
Board in putting together a legislative package. He is convinced that school systems
need to plan in their budgets for the appropriate recycling of electronic products. He
asked how the electronic recycling has been going. He asked if citizens had to pay for
dropping off items. Gayle Wilson said that citizens do not have to pay, but businesses
are charged $5.00 for dropping off monitors.
Commissioner Halkiotis asked about markets in North Carolina for these monitors
and Solid Waste staff member Rab Taylor said that there is no closed loop for these
materials in North Carolina other than reselling them.
Commissioner Halkiotis said that it is sad that some places are still burying CRTs.
He wonders when the State is going to wake up and get concerned about what is
getting buried.
Commissioner Halkiotis asked about the number of landfills that have electronic
recycling. SWAB member Jae Clayton said that the smallest county that does it is Lee
County. There are 11 permanent collection sites in the State and 40 counties that
collect. There are 26 licensed electronics recycling companies operating in North
Carolina.
Gayle Wilson made reference to the legislation and said that at the last session
there was a bill proposed that did not make it through.
Joe Clayton said that they are going to pass the legislation in a different form in that
they will put a small fee on CRT's.
Commissioner Jacobs said that electronics recycling is still in the legislative packet.
Commissioner Jacobs pointed out that the Habitat Store was a proposal that came
out of the C&D Recycling Task Force. He thinks that Habitat should be involved in
constructing the store. He would like to invite Habitat to came and make a presentation
to SWAB when they are closer to coming up with an agreement.
Gayle Wilson said that they have been fortunate in being able to extend the life of the
landfill a couple of years. The County Commissioners need to determine the location of
the transfer station so that planning can begin. The transfer station should be ready by
the spring of 2010. They would like to begin preliminary design and permitting in 2007.
If the County Commissioners chose to put it at a place that was not previously
recommended, then the timeline will have to be backed up to identify a location.
Commissioner Gordon encouraged the SWAB to look at where this facility could be
located.
Commissioner Jacobs said that Chapel Hill still has not signed on to the Regulated
Recyclable Materials Ordinance. He asked for an explanation of this. Gayle Wilson
said that he did not know, but they inquired last spring and the Chapel Hill Planning
Director had same questions and the County staff answered them. He thought Chapel
Hill was ready to sign on, but he has not heard anything since. He does not know why
Chapel Hill has not signed on and the Chapel Hill staff cannot give him a reason either.
Commissioner Jacobs said that it would be advisable that Chapel Hill signs on. He
recommended the Chair of the SWAB and the Chapel Hill representative bring this up.
Jan Sassaman said that they made a presentation to the Town Council in early
December and were pretty strong in the statement to them that they should sign an and
that there could be some downstream regulatory issues if they do not sign on.
Commissioner Jacobs suggested having a letter from the Board of County
Commissioners' Chair to the Mayor.
Chair Carey encouraged the Chair of the Solid Waste Advisory Board SWAB) and
the Chapel Hill representatives to address the matter with Chapel Hill. He will generate
this letter.
Commissioner Halkiotis said that there should be a list of other outstanding issues
that are hanging out there. He is amazed that this is still out there. He thinks it should
be Manager to Manager or Chair to Mayor. This need to be resolved.
Commissioner Jacobs made reference to the ordinance and asked how it was going
with deconstruction versus demolition. Gayle Wilson could not answer this with
accuracy. Commissioner Jacobs asked that this be put in writing and shared with the
SWAB.
c. Three Year Solid Waste Management Plan Update; (including steps to
address Tawn of Chapel Hill program/service interests)
Gayle Wilson said that they need to get back on track and revisit this plan. He has
proposed a Waste Reduction Plan Work Group that would include one or two members
from each of the elected bodies, a representative from the University, a SWAB liaison,
and others. The work group would meet periodically over the next 14-16 months to
review the work done by staff and the SWAB. The work group would be reexamining
and reconsidering a portion of the plan that serves as a means to achieve 61
reduction. They would be looking at residential and commercial recycling collection,
equipment and staffing, materials, regulatory issues, processing issues, financial
implications, and the implementation issues. He would like the process to include input
from the public, all of the elected boards, the University, and the advisory board. The
plan needs to be adopted by the elected bodies and submitted in June 2006.
Commissioner Gordon asked if the SWAB has talked about a MRF. Jan Sassman
said that they feel strongly that a MRF is necessary.
Joe Clayton said that he has not seen numbers yet and there are a lot of MRF's. He
said that numbers drive them, and one million people would be enough to drive a MRF.
Commissioner Gordon said that she understood that the issues were casts and how
many people would need to be involved and who would work in it. She understands
that there are terrible working conditions.
Commissioner Halkiotis said that he has visited MRF's in Greensboro, Charlotte,
and Athens, Georgia and saw the types of people working at them. After those visits,
he was not convinced that the County could afford a MRF or produce enough material
to maintain one. He said that there was an exploitation of human beings at these
facilities. He would never support something like this.
Commissioner Jacobs asked if the money far the MRF would be taken out of the 3-R
fee anyway. Gayle Wilson said yes and that they are in the middle of an analysis of
looking at whether they should consider a MRF operated by the County versus using a
merchant MRF through Greensboro or Raleigh. The merchant MRF looks good in the
short-term, but they are continuing the analysis. Regarding the employee base, he said
that they had assumed a living wage for the employees and a structure that had all
modern environmental necessities. It will still be very unpleasant, but they would not
consider anything but a thoroughly modern facility.
Jan Sassaman said that one of the considerations of the SWAB is that if they are
going to increase recycling, it has to go somewhere after the landfill closes. If the
facilities are operated in the County, there is control over the issues of justice, ethics,
environmental handling, and a good wage for people.
Chair Carey said that this is one of the issues that will be addressed as the plan is
updated. He thinks the staff has enough direction to proceed. He said that they do not
have to wait until April to get started in developing the plan.
4. SWAB Presentation on Maior Issues
Jan Sassaman made reference to the timeline on page two, which is a road map of
when things should be attended ta. The C&D disposal facilities are an track. The
present landfill for Municipal Solid Waste {MSW} will have to be permitted between
2005-2008, and plan to close and cap the landfill by 2010. As they ga off line with the
present landfill they will need to get going with the waste transfer station. A site must be
identified by 2005-2006 ar 2006-2007. This site must be operational by the beginning of
2010.
Commissioner Jacobs said that he hopes that the methane gas group will have a
SWAB member.
Commissioner Jacobs asked B. J. Tipton what would have to be done with the
University in order for her to become an official member. B. J. Tipton said that Gayle
Wilson has spoken with someone at the University and initial talks have begun. She
thinks the University has been operating on a good faith manner as if they have signed
on.
Gayle Wilson said that the University wants to see the plan first. They have an
interest in recycling and waste reduction, and they have a problem with whether another
entity would be efficiently processing materials.
Commissioner Jacobs asked Gayle Wilson to send a memo to the Chair regarding
whom he spoke with at the University and what the impediments are.
5. Staff Updates -deferred
6. Wrap Up
7. Adiaurn to Regular BOCC Work Session
With no further items to discuss, the meeting was adjourned at 7:30 p.m.
Moses Carey, Jr., Chair
Donna S. Baker
Clerk to the Board
APPROVED 311 512 0 0 5
MINUTES
ORANGE COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
WORK SESSION
February 8, 2005
7:30 p.m.
The Orange County Board of Commissioners met for a Work Session on Tuesday, February 8,
2005 at the Southern Human Services Center in Chapel Hill, North Carolina.
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Chair Moses Carey, Jr., and Commissioners
Valerie P. Foushee, Alice Gordon, Stephen Halkiotis and Barry Jacobs
COUNTY ATTORNEYS PRESENT: Geoffrey Gledhill and S. Sean Barhanian
COUNTY STAFF PRESENT: County Manager John M. Link, Jr., Assistant County
Managers Rod Visser and Gwen Harvey, and Clerk to the Board Donna S. Baker (All other staff
members will be identified appropriately below}.
NOTE: ALL DOCUMENTS REFERRED TO IN THESE MINUTES ARE IN THE
PERMANENT AGENDA FILE IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
1. Employee Pav & Benefits
Personnel Director Elaine Holmes made a PowerPoint presentation as follows:
Employee Pay and Benefits
February 8, 20Q5
Board of County Commissioners'
Work Session
Past Pav and Benefits Actions
^ Pay elements including:
^ Cost of Living Increase
. In-Range Salary Increase
. Meritorious Service Awards
^ Benefits elements including:
^ Supplemental Retirement [401 {k}] Contribution
Classification and Pav Study
^ Comprehensive countywide jab classification and pay study
^ Implementation in 3 phases
^ Phase 1 -April 14, 2003
^ Phase 2 -December 8, 2003
. Phase 3 -April 26, 2004
Pav Actions Over Past 5 Years
^ Appendix 1 shows specific actions
^ Appendix 2 shows costs for all pay elements
Summary
Pay Actions aver Past 5 Years
^ 2000-01 and 2001-02
^ COLA, In-range and Meritorious Service Awards
^ 2002-03 and 2003-04
. Class and Pay Study Implementation
. No COLA, In-Range or Meritorious Service Awards
^ 2004-05
^ COLA
^ No In-Range or Meritorious Service Awards
Current Needs - Sustainability
^ Ability to retain a stable, qualified, competent and flexible work force
^ Pay and benefits plan essential infrastructure
^ Maintenance is fundamental business cost {not expansion or new initiative}
^ Critical to move forward in 2005-06 to maintain the pay and benefits plan
Current Needs -COLA
2005-06 Cost of Living Increase
^ Adjustment to maintain the pay plan bath as to cost of living and market
^ 2004 consumer price index up 3.3°{0
. Greatest increase in transportation costs {up 6.5°~}
Current Needs - In-Range
2005-06 In-Range Salary Increases
^ Provides a way for employees to advance in the salary range in relation to:
^ New hires
^ Higher salaries being paid in market as employees gain experience and
proficiency
^ Critical to address salary compressian
Current Compression Situation
^ Salary compression most urgent pay issue facing the County
^ Employee salaries are concentrated in the lower, hiring area of the salary range
^ Compression examples in report
Employee Salaries
By Place in Salary Range
Chart
Current Needs -
Meritorious Service Awards
^ Lump sum awards, not a part of base salary
^ Provide a tool for supervisors to recognize and reward tap performers
Current Needs - 401(k) Plan
^ Board adopted contribution far general government (non-sworn law enforcement} in
1998-99
^ Presently $20 per pay period ($520 annually} and 5% for law enforcement
^ Has encouraged employees to participate
401(k) County Contribution
^ Contributions of other area local government employers significantly stronger
^ Next chart shows examples in terms of dollars for an employee making $35,000
salary
$35,000 Salary
Additional Supplemental
Retirement Dollars
Chart
Pay and Benefits
Options and Costs
^ Report Section G illustrates how a pay and benefits package might be configured to
address the needs
Summary
^ Classification and Pay Study built the necessary foundation to maintain the workforce
the County needs
^ Critical to move forward to sustain this work force
Commissioner Halkiotis asked for the total dollar amount that the County contributes
towards 401 (k}. Elaine Holmes said that the annual County cost is $345,000. This includes
permanent full-time and part-time employees who are not sworn law enforcement officers.
Commissioner Halkiatis made reference to page $ of the report regarding contributions
of other municipalities and counties. He said that he is feeling guilty about this. He asked about
the recommendation. Elaine Holmes said that there are several options - a $5 increase or an
increase of 1 °~.
Commissioner Gordon said that after the Board considered the Classification and Pay
Study, they followed the staff recommendation for how to implement the system. Therefore she
thought the Board had tried to do the right thing. She said that, historically, there has been a
compression problem, and she remembers that when they instituted the classification and pay
system, there was some element that could exacerbate the compression problem. She asked
far a reminder about this. Elaine Holmes said that when the Board adopted the pay plan they
adopted phases one, two, and three to help address the compression issue. However, when
the system was implemented, the employees were classified and also the pay levels were
increased. Thus mare employees ended up at the bottom of their salary range.
Commissioner Gordon made reference to page F-2 and the orange bar for 401 (k}
contributions, and said that it looks very low. She said that there seem to be higher priorities,
such as the in-range salary increase.
Commissioner Jacobs asked about the rate of growth of the County's revenue this year.
Budget Director Donna Dean said it is somewhere between 3-3112 %.
Commissioner Jacobs said that he always feels conflicted at this time of year. He said
that the County employees are not at these meetings advocating for themselves. He said that
even though it may be frowned upon in North Carolina for employees to bargain, they should be
at the table. He thinks that the spending in the last few years on employee benefits reflects the
financial constraints that the County Commissioners have felt. He thinks the 401 {k} contribution
looks low on the report, but that is just one aspect. He thinks Orange County is a lot more
generous than the State. He cautioned the Board not to feel guilty without looking at the full
picture. He feels proud of how the County treats its employees.
Commissioner Foushee said that she has met a lot of County employees and she is
proud of what she has learned from them. She said that in order to sustain the workforce, there
has to be a set of incentives to keep employees here. It is na secret that pay is the ultimate
incentive. She agrees that the in-range salary increases must be implemented. Regarding
401 (k}, it is dismal to her to see that Orange County pays $20, given what is paid in this area.
There is also an equity issue because sworn law enforcement officers receive 5%. She
believes that other employees perform just as well as officers. She would like to bring this
contribution more in line. She urged the Board to consider all of the recommendations brought
forward by the staff. She said that she does this in her day jab and she knows that what she
sees here is not the kind of situation that will retain good employees.
Chair Carey asked if the County made any other retirement contributions for employees.
John Link said that 401 (k} is important as we each face uncertainty of what social security will
provide. He said that they could be proud of the retirement benefits of the State and the local
governments. It is one of the benchmark retirement systems in the country in terms of benefits.
Cost-of-living and in-range are key components to one's long term security in looking at
retirement. He said that they have not emphasized 401 (k) because the base salary is the most
important factor. He still thinks that 401 (k) is important, but the other two are more important,
especially the base salary. He said that the intent is not to make the Board feel bad about
where the County is on 401 (k) contributions in comparison with other entities.
Commissioner Gordon would like to see what the State provides in terms of retirement.
Elaine Holmes said that she would provide examples. The retirement formula is based
on the highest 4 years of final compensation, the years of service, age, the amount of sick
leave, etc. She will put together some scenarios.
Commissioner Halkiotis assured the Board that his guilt has been lifted. He commended
Elaine Holmes for this report. He wants to see the complete package of the comparison to
State employees. He said that there are some instances where County employees have far
better benefits than State employees. He is supportive of increasing the 401 (k}.
Commissioner Jacobs said that he is intrigued by the idea of following the rate of
increase in the County's revenues and the rate of increase in employee salary. He would like to
look into this further. He would like to hear, even if it is a written comment, from the Employee's
Consortium, what their highest priorities are. This will guide him in making a decision. He
wants to encourage more communication.
Commissioner Foushee also supported increasing the 401 {k} plan.
2. Recreation and Parks
(a) Recreation and Parks Strategic Plan -Progress Report
Recreation and Parks Director Lori Taft introduced Recreation and Parks Advisory
Council member Tony Britt and Parks Services Director Dan Girby. These individuals served on
the committee along with Commissioner Jacobs, Commissioner Halkiotis, John Link, and Gwen
Harvey in working on this report about the strategic plan for park facilities and personnel for
those facilities.
She said that this is a draft of the strategic plan and a work in progress. They are
working toward developing and including some of the comments and feedback given in the
meetings of this committee. The summaries of the committee's work are included in the inside
cover of the manual. She said that there is also a potential action item associated with this
report, which is consideration of the Parks Conservation Technician that was pending since the
last budget deliberations. Once the strategic plan for facilities and personnel is adopted,
hopefully sometime later this spring, it could be a reference tool for planning and scheduling
park development projects. Their objective is to provide safe and clean parks in keeping with
the mission statement. Throughout the draft plan, needs have been identified for the entire
department and not just for parks maintenance workers. The strategic plan will also be helpful
in development of a natural parks element, an update to the 1988 plan, as part of the natural
and cultural systems portion of the Orange County Comprehensive Plan. The strategic plan
looks at projected operations through the year 2020, which was the charge provided by the
Board during the last budget cycle. The committee found it increasingly difficult to project this
far.
She made reference to the Little River Regional Park and said that they have learned
from their recent experience. The public has been hungry for new parks. Visitors that have
been interviewed indicated that they are delighted with the park. Most of the visitors come from
Durham and Chapel Hill and many are from the immediate community. There is no other
comparable legal area for mountain biking in the two counties. There is a seven-mile field
network of mountain bike trails. There is also no comparable facility for horseback riding. She
said that they ordered 1,000 maps of the park to be ready for the December 5th opening,
thinking that this would be enough for a while. They ran out of them before January 1St. They
are ordering another 5,000 maps. There are two full-time staff members assigned to the park,
some temporary help, and they look forward to getting the assistance of a caretaker resident in
the future. They are struggling to keep up with managing the visitors and getting things done.
They are incurring overtime and the staff has been working on holidays. All visitors to the park
are very satisfied with it, and the staff will keep working through the challenges.
Not far in the horizon is the development of Twin Creeks Park. This district park is not
as large in acreage as Little River, but it is much more complex in operational and maintenance
needs. The projected needs are outlined on page 15 of the plan. The key in the timing for Twin
Creeks is whether or not they can consider using the Cate's house as a visitor's center and an
office and whether or not they could use the barn to house same equipment and run programs.
Otherwise, facilities might need to be added in the master plan to serve these needs. She
asked for some direction from the Board on this. The staff does not envision this property as a
suitable location for a caretaker resident, due to the level of activity anticipated. Thus, they
propose to use the Cate's house as a public facility.
Commissioner Jacobs asked if the staff was envisioning someone living somewhere else
on the property. Lori Taft said that she was not envisioning a caretaker resident on Twin
Creeks Park.
Lori Taft said that sections of the plan that have not been developed include areas for
parks that were identified in the 1988 plan or that have not yet been acquired. There may be
reason to revisit the census data and whether proposed parks need to be shifted or eliminated.
The Recreation and Parks Department will continue to work with Environment and Resource
Conservation and Planning Departments on the parks component of the natural and cultural
systems element of the comprehensive plan.
Commissioner Gordon said that she would be interested in knowing the timeline for
accepting comments because she did not have time to read the report in detail.
Chair Carey said that they are only receiving this tonight as information.
Commissioner Halkiotis said that this report needs to be studied carefully and that it is a
work in progress. He remembers when he was elected in 1986 that citizens were complaining
about extravagant purchases by the Recreation and Parks Director of some bamboo fishing
poles. The bottom line is that the Board needs to figure out how to pay for all of this. For
example, the annual operating costs far Twin Creeks is estimated at $500,000, which is
equivalent to ~l cent on the tax rate.
Commissioner Halkiotis said that he is not in agreement with Lori Taft that the house
should be some kind of museum. He thinks that the homes should have a purpose that blends
very easily into the affordable housing mission in the County and that blends into the mission of
keeping an eye on valuable property. He said that the most giving thing to do to protect
property is to have somebody living there and keeping an eye on the place. He thinks the plan
is getting there, but the issue is whether the County can afford the plan.
Chair Carey said that the Board could decide the timeframe and haw it fits into the other
priorities.
Jahn Link said that this draft has already been partially successful because it is making
everyone think of costs.
RPAC member Tony Britt commented that Lori Taft works very closely with their group,
and this document reflects her progress in the right direction. He said that the RPAC has full
confidence in Lori Taft and her staff.
Commissioner Jacobs said that the County Commissioners made a quick decision not to
talk about a bond this year, but when they do talk about a bond, they may want to look at these
projected costs in terms of a bond. The staff needs could also be phased in over a period of
time.
Chair Carey asked the Board's pleasure on the Parks Conservation Technician.
Lori Taft said that she hopes that it is clear from the plan that there will be positions
needed in the future. There is a need presently for more staff because of projects they are not
able to accomplish with the current staff. Examples include Efland-Cheeks, Fairview, Northern
Cedar Grove, and others. She would like the Board to consider this position tonight.
Commissioner Halkiotis suggested adding this to the next consent agenda. He asked
for clarification on something. He said that the grounds at the Southern Human Services Center
are starting to look shabby. There are uprooted and dead trees and this needs to be part of the
whole plan for facilities. He would like to see a breakdown of who is responsible for what in
these areas related to parks. He does not understand where Recreation and Parks ends and
Environment and Resource Conservation begins.
John Link said that there was a discussion about this last week and that this needs to be
expanded to include Public Works and Planning.
Chair Carey said that John Link would articulate this about where one department ends
and another begins and put it in writing.
Commissioner Gordon asked when this Parks Conservation Technician position would
begin. Lori Taft said that it would not start before March.
Commissioner Gordon asked about the relationship with Durham County in terms of
paying for the parks technicians at Little River. Lori Taft said that Orange County pays all of the
operating costs, and Durham County reimburses Orange County 50% for staff.
The Parks Conservation Technician position will be on the next consent agenda.
{b} Resident Caretaker for Little River Regional Park
Elaine Holmes explained the information that outlines the legal threshold of what the
County could and could not do with a resident caretaker. There are two options -the caretaker
would be an employee or a tenant only. In terms of the caretaker being an employee, there
could be various types of duties that the employee would carry out. In terms of the caretaker as
a tenant only, the work would be related to the residence and not to the park, but the objective
would be to have a presence in the park.
Commissioner Jacobs asked if there was an analysis of the criteria for having a
caretaker on a particular property.
Jahn Link said that, regarding the Blackwood property, there should not be a problem
having a person live there, but it becomes less clear in looking at Twin Creeks.
Commissioner Jacabs said that this is a fundamental decision that must be made about
these properties. He would like to hear the pros and cons, because his sense is that a property
right near hundreds and thousands of people, like Twin Creeks, needs acaretaker on-site at all
times more than Little River.
Commissioner Halkiotis said that this is only a process and he would contend that
"livable" could mean different things to different people. He would be more concerned about a
piece of property in close proximity to a rapidly growing area than he would elsewhere.
Commissioner Gordon agreed that there should be criteria in deciding whether a
caretaker is needed. VIlhatever is done, the sites should be secure.
Chair Carey asked that the staff bring back criteria proposals as soon as possible.
John Link said that they could incorporate this in flushing out the strategic plan.
Chair Carey asked about the questions that have been raised about the current mission
and role of the RPAC and whether it is up to date. One member has resigned, recommending
that the mission needed to be updated. Lori Taft said that the RPAC by-laws are out of date
and were written prior to the existence of ERCD. Many responsibilities in the by-laws are
performed by ERCD. They are looking for direction.
Chair Carey said that the Board would want a recommendation on what a new charge
could be.
Commissioner Jacobs said that at the retreat, the Board asked for the RPAC to revisit
the by-laws.
Tony Britt agreed with Lori Taft and said that the duties and responsibilities of the
department have changed since the original charge. They recognize the need and are working
toward that end.
Commissioner Gordon asked if they were going to meet with the other boards in the
County and Lori Taft said that there was a joint meeting planned with the Commission for the
Environment.
Commissioner Jacobs asked that the Board get a copy of the agenda for this meeting.
3. Proposed Process -Natural and Cultural Systems Element of the Comprehensive
Plan
Environment and Resource Conservation Director David Stancil distributed a handout
entitled "Natural and Cultural Systems Element" {purple sheet}. He said that one of the County
Commissioners' goals that has been lingering at least since 1999 is to address the elements of
the comprehensive plan that speak to natural and cultural resources. He gave some history of
the comprehensive plan. He said that he tried, at the end of 2003 and early 2004, to think about
how to go about doing this element. He said that the model that was used in the late 1980's
was Morin County, California. He included same sections of the new Morin County plan in the
agenda materials. This is just north of San Francisco. At the time, it was considered to be one
of the best plans in California far counties.
He said that the goal in early 2004 was to try and achieve the pieces missing related to
natural and cultural resources. He would also like to engage the public as part of the process.
He made reference to page 8 of the materials, which is a proposal faraway to accomplish this
goal. Most of the activity would take place in 2005 and early 2006. The first phase would
include the appointment of a Natural/Cultural Element Oversight Committee. He summarized
the timeline as shown an page 8. He said that a lot of the pieces in this element will fit right in
with the parks strategic plan. He said that his proposal is aggressive and moves the County
away from an era of having large plans that no one can read to something that is more concise
and still complex and consistent with the plan aver the last 15 years.
Commissioner Gordon said that she likes the idea of having a more concise plan. She
was involved in 1981 in the comprehensive plan and it makes sense to have these elements.
She would like to streamline the process. She was thinking about the existing boards and the
people on them and what it would take to have a super board. She suggested having the plans
go to the appropriate boards and having an interim report come back to the County
Commissioners. She does nat see why a super structure is necessary when the related boards
are already in place.
Commissioner Jacobs agreed and said that maybe the meetings could be scheduled as
part of County Commissioner work sessions over the course of a year and the chairs of the
advisory boards could all be invited.
Planning Director Craig Benedict said that the framework of a comprehensive plan with
the various elements is vast. His interest is that there is a consistent framework. When he
came to Orange County there were a lot of things on the shelf and many boards came up with
goals and objectives that have never come to fruition. He thinks that there is some validity to
creating asuper-element. He hopes to keep the overall planning framework in mind.
Commissioner Jacobs said that if they follow the model of referring this to standing
boards, it needs to be clear that it is a high priority because the boards already have other
priorities.
Commissioner Gordon said that it is true that these reports come up and nothing
happens. There is some good work out there that can be built upon. One example is the water
resources work initiated by the Water Resources Committee and the studies performed by the
United States Geological Service (USGS). There were three USGS studies completed, and
also a Water Resources Committee Report, all of which were completed by 2001. These
studies still have not been implemented. The Commission for the Environment is very
interested in this and will be coming forward with a Water Resources Initiative in the near future
Dave Stancil said that this would fit into phase 2.
Craig Benedict said that some of the land use and density issues and minimum lot size
requirements reflect some of these previous studies.
With nothing further to discuss, the meeting was adjourned at 9:40 p.m.
Moses Carey, Jr., Chair
Donna S. Baker
Clerk to the Board