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MINUTES
BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
BUDGET WORK SESSION
March 1, 2012
7:00 p.m.
The Orange County Board of Commissioners met for a Budget Work Session on
Thursday, March 1, 2012 7:00 p.m. at the Southern Human Services Center, Cha el Hill. N.C.
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COUNTY COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Chair Bernadette Pelissier and Commissioners
Valerie Foushee, Alice M. Gordon, Barry Jacobs, Pam Hemminger, Earl McKee, and Steve
Yuhasz
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ABSENT:
COUNTY ATTORNEYS PRESENT: John Roberts
COUNTY STAFF PRESENT: County Manager Frank Clifton, Assistant County Gwen Harvey,
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Assistant Count Mana er Michael Talbert and Clerk to the Board Donna Baker All other staff
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members will be identified appropriately below)
NOTE: ALL DOCUMENTS REFERRED TO IN THESE MINUTES ARE IN THE PERMANENT
AGENDA FILE IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
Chair Pelissier said that there are additional pages for the CIP for the County
Commissioners' notebook and a PowerPoint presentation for item 3.
Financial Services Director Clarence Grier let the Board know that Paul Laughton is now
the Deputy Finance Director as of today.
1. To review and discuss the Manaqer's Recommended FY2012-17 Capital
Investment Plan
Deputy Finance Director Paul Laughton said that the County has had a CIP for years
and it is a financial planning tool. He said that the CIP tonight is broken into several tabs -
county projects, special revenue projects, propriety projects, school projects, and appendices.
He summarized the abstract, as shown below:
BACKGROUND: for over 20 years, the county has produced a Capital Investment Plan (CIP)
that establishes a budget planning guide related to capital needs for the County as well as
Schools. The current CIP consists of a 5-year plan that is evaluated annually to include year-
to-year changes in priorities, needs, and available resources.
Capital Investment Plan —Overview
The FY 2012-17 CIP includes County Projects, School Projects, Proprietary Projects, and
Special Revenue Projects. The Special Revenue Projects are a new addition in the FY 2012-17
CIP, and includes Economic Development and School related projects funded from the Article
46 (1/4-cent) Sales Tax proceeds. The Article 46 Sales Tax was approved by the voters in the
November 11 election, and is effective April 1, 2012.
The CIP has been prepared anticipating continued slow economic growth of between 1-2%
annually over the next five years. Many of the projects in the CIP will rely on debt financing to
fund the projects. A Debt Service and Debt Capacity spreadsheet is included in the
Appendices section of the document detailing this planned debt. Also included in the CIP are
several new projects that were not part of the FY 2011-16 CIP (See Attachment 2).
Additionally, during FY 2012-13 the County should pursue a review and update of its facility
needs. Several costly maintenance related projects are planned for a few of the County's older
facilities. A thorough analysis is needed of whether these maintenance projects should be
pursued or whether the funding for these items would better serve County needs being
allocated toward new facilities.
We will discuss these items in more detail during the work session, highlighting examples.
County Capital — Highlights
The County Capital section includes nine new projects that were not part of the FY 2011-16
Approved CIP. Major projects include the following:
Southern Orange Campus (Future Planning)—a site master plan is recommended in FY 12-
13, with construction recommended in FY 14-15 for campus buildings not associated with the
existing Southern Human Services Center. Expansion of the existing SHSC is included in a
separate CIP project.
Proposed Future Jail—site related planning costs are recommended in FY 13-14, with the
construction of a new 250-bed jail recommended in FY 16-17, at an estimated cost of
$30,000,000.
Viper Radio System -funding of$543,750 is recommended in FY 12-13 for additional
channels on existing towers in Orange County, as well as surrounding areas, to allow for
increased system capacity and reduction on busy signals received by field units during times of
high demand. Also, the addition of three towers is recommended from FY 13-14 to 15-16 in
order to expand coverage and increase capacity. This project is being reviewed as part of the
charge to the Emergency Services Work Group.
Communication System Improvements— includes recommended funding of$748,000 in FY
12-13 to replace the outdated Computer Aided Dispatch (CAD) system, as well as replacement
of 800 MHz radios for Emergency Services. Enhancements to the 9-1-1 Call Taker, emergency
police and fire dispatch software, and replacement of 800 MHz radios associated with law
enforcement agencies and fire departments are planned in Years 2-5. An option of establishing
County Service Districts (Emergency Services, Fire and Rescue, Public Safety) could be
explored to pay for these radio replacements. If established, funds to pay for the replacements
would come out of a newly created Special Revenue Fund, outside of the General Fund. This
project, as well as the option of possible County Service Districts, is being reviewed as part of
the charge to the Emergency Services Work Group.
Future EMS Stations— planning/assessment funds of$50,000 for future locations of EMS
stations are recommended in FY 12-13, with construction of a station in Year 3 and one in Year
5, and two additional stations planned in Years 6-10. The strategic locations have not yet been
determined and will be reviewed by the Emergency Services Work Group.
Joint Artificial Turf Soccer Fields— recommended in FY 12-13; funds of$623,000 are
currently available in the Twin Creeks Park project to construct artificial turf soccer fields in
partnership with the Town of Chapel Hill at the Town's Cedar Falls Park.
Special Revenue Projects (Article 46 Sales Tax Proceeds)— Highlights
The Special Revenue section includes anticipated revenue of$2,500,000 annually, with 50% of
the proceeds for Economic Devefopment initiatives, and 50°/a for Education (allocated by the
ADM count of the two school districts). In FY 2011-12, proceeds are estimated at one-fourth of
the annual amount, for a total of$625,000. A summary is provided within the Special Revenue
Projects section of the document listing the recommended uses of these proceeds.
Proprietary Projects — Highlights
Water 8 Sewer Utilities—Year 1 reflects inclusion of the McGowan Creek Pump Station
rehabilitation project costs ($725,00) in the Central Efland/North Buckhorn Sewer Expansion
project in order to take advantage of remaining State Revolving Loan funds.
Solid Waste— includes recommended funds of$3.1 million to close the Municipal Solid Waste
(MSW) Landfill in FY 12-13, and establishes a separate C&D Landfill project from this point
forward. Also, provides for the delay of purchasing 18,970 Urban curbside carts until FY 13-14,
and begins the purchase of 13,000 Rural curbside carts over a three-year period from FY 12-13
through FY 14-15.
Sportsplex—funding is recommended in FY 14-15 for a Mezzanine addition at the pool area to
include dedicated member change areas, lockers, and workout rooms. Funding is also
recommended in FY 15-16 for the addition of a Meuanine in the ice rink to provide additional
fitness space, a dedicated group cycling area, and an advanced group training center, as well
as funding of a new Children's Activity Center to expand the After School and Summer Camp
programs.
School Projects— Highlights
Chapel Hill-Carrboro City Schoo/s—Year 1 reflects the funding of Elementary#11
construction ($21,500,000) and assumes a 1.5% annual growth in Pay-As-You-Go (PAYG)
funds and constant Lottery Proceeds throughout the 5-year period.
Orange County Schoo/s—funding is recommended in FY 14-15 for the construction of an
auxiliary gym at Cedar Ridge High School, as well as recommended funding in FY 15-16 for the
construction of a 20 classroom addition wing to address over capacity issues at Cedar Ridge
High School. 1.5% annual growth in PAYG funds and constant Lottery Proceeds are assumed
throughout the 5-year period.
Note: Both schools systems provide Funded and Unfunded CIP requests each year. Within
the School Capital Projects section, there are three summaries provided that reflect: (1) the
Recommended funded projects, (2) the Requested, but Unfunded projects, and (3) the total
amount of the Recommended and Requested projects.
Appendices — Highlights
County Debt Service and Debt Capacity— based on the Manager's recommended funding,
the County's annual debt service as a percent of the General Fund budget would remain under
15% until FY 16-17, when it would reach 15.35%.
Note: An additional summary is provided in the Appendices section, which reflects the debt
service percent if all the Recommended and the Requested, but Unfunded projects were
included during the FY 2012-17 CIP period. This would increase the percentage to 16.97% in
FY 16-17, and would approach 20% by FY 17-18.
Active County Capita/Projects—also included in the Appendices section is a list of all
currently active County Capital projects with available balances as of January 31, 2012.
Paul Laughton made reference to the old Ag center and the cost of updating this for
$1.5 million. He said that this should be discussed before renovating this building.
Frank Clifton said that this money could be used to update the Blackwood property
instead.
Commissioner Gordon encouraged this type of thinking and having a long-term space
needs plan. She said that it important to get out of rental space and consolidate County offices.
Commissioner Yuhasz asked if there was adequate space in the office buildings to
accommodate the staff that are currently located in the Environmental/Ag space. Frank Clifton
said that there is not enough space right now in one place to be functional. He said that his
concern for suggesting this was the cost of maintenance and operation of the older buildings.
The Blackwood property would be an opportunity to invest the $1.5 million into this.
Commissioner Jacobs said that he agreed with Commissioner Gordon in that they need
to have some basic principles on how to analyze space needs. He said that there are finro
different Blackwood Farms—one is near Hillsborough and one is not. He thinks that one of the
principles is to try and keep the services as close together as possible. He thinks that this
should still be a priority. Either way, there are buildings for sale that are not being used. There
is also the Annex, the Whitted Building, and downstairs of the Link Building. He said that there
needs to be a systematic way to analyze space needs. There are two space needs plans and
he suggested starting with these plans first and see what changes need to be made. He wants
to make the best of the County's resources.
Chair Pelissier asked Frank Clifton when something might come before the Board.
Frank Clifton said that the staff could do some analysis and come back next fall for
Board review.
Commissioner McKee said that he realizes that the costs of maintaining a building can
sometimes exceed the cost of doing something new, however, he would caution the County
Commissioners to remember the fiscal constraints the County has faced, and that the services
to their citizens should come first.
Commissioner Gordon said that there was a notebook at one time with all of the County
buildings and the space analysis. She said that before Pam Jones retires, she hopes that this
information will be updated.
Paul Laughton continued going through the components of the CIP notebook.
Northern Human Services Center:
He made reference to the Northern Human Services Center on page 17. This is
consistent with what is in the current CIP. The Board has seen this and reviewed options in
January. The $2 million in FY 14-15 is the cost of constructing a new building.
Commissioner McKee said that, as they talk about this facility, he would like to please
keep the citizens in this area abreast of what the Board of County Commissioners is talking
about in reference to this facility.
Commissioner Jacobs said that he assumes that there will be a public meeting in this
area to comment on the proposed changes to this facility.
Commissioner Foushee said that the citizens at the last meeting were not aware that
they could speak about this item
Department of Environment, Agriculture, and Parks and Recreation Director Dave
Stancil said that there will be a meeting March 19th to talk about this facility.
Commissioner Jacobs said that he hoped that the Efland/Cheeks Community Center
would be a part of the space analysis because it is the sentiment of the community that this
space is too smalL
Seymour Center:
Paul Laughton said that there is consideration of installing a permanent generator here.
Commissioner Jacobs asked if there was a bid out for this. There is a business called
Power Solutions in Efland that sells solar generators.
Pam Jones said that she is aware of Power Solutions and it is one of the go-to vendors.
This building was built as a generator-ready building and they will be looking at new technology.
Clarifying questions of the County Commissioners were answered by Pam Jones.
Commissioner Jacobs said that the County Commissioners have had to compete for
use of this meeting room at Southern Human Services Center and he hoped that when they did
a study on this campus, that they would find out who is actually using the parking lot and if it is
being used for park and ride purposes, which is not what it is supposed to be used for. Before
more parking is added, he would like to know who is using the existing parking.
Paul Laughton continued going through the various projects.
Commissioner Hemminger asked Paul Laughton to put a footnote that any sale of
future buildings will go toward a particular project.
Southwest Library:
Commissioner Jacobs asked about the process of developing criteria for siting and
designing the southwest library.
Chair Pelissier said that she sent a letter to the Town of Carrboro stating that nothing
else would be done until hearing back from the Town of Carrboro, and there has been no
response.
Frank Clifton said that he has heard that the Town of Carrboro is trying to form a
committee of Aldermen members to review the siting criteria, but nothing has come back to the
Board of County Commissioners.
Commissioner Jacobs said that it would be nice to have some timeline or a timely
response from the Town of Carrboro on this process and maybe they could work with the
Mayor.
Chair Pelissier said that she would call the Mayor and ask what the plans are.
Commissioner McKee saicl that he sees a link between the funding for the Chapel Hill
Library and the Southwest Branch Library. He would like to have this discussion before
discussing the design plans and siting for a Southwest Branch Library.
Link Government Services Center:
Commissioner McKee made reference to page 95 and the 72% complete figure. He
asked if this was just the repairs that have been done with the sprinkler system and what is
seen now. It was answered yes. He said that there is a building next door to the Link Center in
which there are several employees of the Elections Board. He asked if there was a possibility
of moving that department to this area.
Commissioner Gordon encouraged the County Commissioners to think about whether
this is a temporary meeting solution or if this is a long-term solution. She does not see the
space in the Link Center being a good meeting room. She said that the meeting room should
be built as a meeting room instead of retrofitting something else. She would like to solve the
long-term space planning issue before deconstructing something.
Commissioner Jacobs thanked staff for putting money into making the Link Government
Services Center handicapped accessible. He said that all government buildings should be ADA
compliant as soon as possible.
Commissioner Jacobs made reference to the figure for this building and said that he
thought it was $1 million a couple of years ago. He asked if the geothermal system would be
used and if this savings was incorporated.
Pam Jones said that the cost of the geothermal system was separate from this building.
Commissioner McKee asked if there were figures for putting in office partitions in the
downstairs Link Government Services Center and Pam Jones said no.
Commissioner Foushee said that she respects the staff for funding needs for ADA
compliance, but since they have indicated that it is not known when the space needs study
would occur, it seems that it might be beneficial for the Board to be able to see an inventory of
the buildings that need ADA attention.
Information Technology:
Paul Laughton made reference to the blue handout which was the Information
Technology Capital sheet for FY 2012-13. This year, the proposal is $500,000, but the green
sheet has information on increasing this to $700,000 this year.
Clarence Grier said that every year the County spends $500,000 for IT for infrastructure
and all. This year, if they add $200,000 to existing allocations, they can get all of the IT
infrastructure updated in one year instead of doing it piece meal.
Paul Laughton continued summarizing the information.
Frank Clifton suggested that the County Commissioners take a tour of the existing jail
with the Sheriff.
Commissioner Jacobs said that when he toured the courthouse, he heard about the lack
of facilities for magistrates. Perhaps they could be accommodated with this potential new jail.
Emerqencv Services:
Viper Radio System:
Paul Laughton said that the Emergency Services Work Group has been charged to look
at these projects.
Commissioner McKee said that the work group will be addressing the need for the
additional towers fairly quickly. He said that he has been informed that a couple of fire
departments, working with a private contractor approved by the Highway Patrol, has
reprogrammed some of the radios and it is not a fix, but it has improved the reception to some
extent. These towers can also be used to expand other services such as internet, etc. There
would be multiple uses for these towers.
Commissioner Hemminger said that she is ok with this funding as a placeholder for now
while they wait for the Emergency Services Work group recommendations. She wants to make
sure that these are estimates and placeholders and not definitive things. She wants the work
group to come back with recommendations.
Commissioner McKee said that the points are well taken.
Communication System Improvements:
Paul Laughton went through the various improvements. There is an option of
establishing County service districts as a way to pay for the radio replacements. This is on
page 33. This project would also be reviewed by the work group.
Commissioner McKee said that he has several issues with this project. He said that with
800 mHz radios, the fire departments currently provide funding and buy the radios out of their
own budgets. He has a question regarding why the fire departments are looking after their own
needs and now the County is suddenly taking over that particular part.
Emergency Services Director Frank Montes de Oca said that either the County could
purchase the radios or the departments could purchase their own radios with the specifications
that match up with the radio system. Alamance County mandates the kind of radios that are
bought so that they are compatible. His concern is that there are several departments
managing their own radios and buying from different manufacturers, and there may be a
compatibility issue.
Commissioner Foushee said that she is fine with an option being presented, but it just
seemed to her that with decisions such as this, she would have thought that this was an issue
that the work group would have been charged to review.
Chair Pelissier said that does not necessarily have to be done through the County
budget, but it can be an agreement that everyone makes.
Commissioner McKee said that he is not aware of compatibility issues with departments'
radios, but he will know all of this by tomorrow afternoon.
Future Emergency Services Stations:
The first year has $50,000 for planning and assessment for future locations. No
locations have been determined at this point. This would be a charge to the work group for
recommendations. Years three through five, there is a new station at $500,000 each for the
land and construction. In years 6-10 there are two additional substations. This would be a total
of four substations over the next ten years.
Conservation Easements:
Paul Laughton said that $250,000 a year is going to these from the General Fund
starting in year two and continuing each year thereafter.
Commissioner Jacobs said that when the Board did a bond in 2001, they were told by
the Bond Attorney that they could not do conservation easements with bond money because
there would be no public access. That is why it had to come from a different source.
Eurosport Soccer Complex:
Commissioner Jacobs said that this has been a very successful project as far as usage
and it was put there for economic development purposes.
Commissioner Yuhasz asked for a measure of the economic benefits of this.
Dave Stancil said that this has been discussed lately and he hopes to get some
concrete figures soon.
Commissioner Gordon said that she too would like to see this impact since they do have
competing needs for soccer parks and usage and there are other places where soccer fields
could be built.
Commissioner Jacobs said that there is a plan for the other Blackwood Farm to fund in
year six, but this one does not have a plan and yet it is being funded. The plan for the first
Blackwood Farm was worked out with a group of citizens, County Commissioners, and staff and
it took about a year. Now, that plan has been shelved and this plan has been moved way up
without having something seen or adopted by the Board of County Commissioners.
Dave Stancil said that a big part of the rationale here is that there is a funding partner in
the Town of Chapel Hill and there is not one at the other Blackwood Farm.
Paul Laughton said that the next time the County Commissioners will discuss the CIP is
March 15th. There is time allotted for follow-up on the CIP and then they meet again on April
19th for about an hour.
Commissioner Foushee suggested suspending speaking on the CIP from pages 47-69
and going to school projects since school staff are here.
SCHOOL PROJECTS:
Orange County Schools (OCS):
Paul Laughton said that this begins on page 69. Included in this section are the
requested CIPs from both school systems. Both of them list funded and unfunded projects.
Orange County Schools sent a revised CIP, which is at the County Commissioners' places.
The changes are highlighted in yellow. On page 81, the Cedar Ridge classroom wing addition
was changed to add $300,000 in planning costs in year one. The other change is on page 84
of the revised CIP, which is Elementary School #8. There is also information on reassessing
the capacity at Orange High School. This analysis should be completed by early April.
The recommended funding for Orange County Schools is continuation of the pay-as-
you-go, the lottery fund, and the Cedar Ridge Auxiliary Gym in 2014-15 at $2,175,000 and then
in years 2015-16 the classroom wing addition. This would be an addition of 20 classrooms.
The current capacity is 1,000 students and the enrollment is 1,129.
Chapel Hill-Carrboro City Schools (CHCCS):
The '/<-cent sales tax Article 46 is reflected in the special revenue fund section of the
CIP. The schools submitted how they would like those proceeds allotted.
Page 70 has some "unfunded" projects outlined. Page 71 has a total summary sheet of
funded and unfunded projects.
Commissioner Gordon asked that the SAPFO TAC information for both schools be
provided on larger pages. She stated that the CIP for the new school facilities should conform
to the provisions of the SAPFO.
Commissioner Gordon made reference to page 70 and said that the Culbreth Middle
School science labs are still not funded and have not been funded for years. This is a core
instructional function.
Commissioner Hemminger said that she would also like to know about the SAPFO
numbers in the fall. She asked about the enrollment for elementary schools in OCS.
OCS Chief Operating Officer George McFarley said that the student rates from the
SAPFO for single-family dwellings versus multi-family dwellings have almost flip-flopped. There
are more children out of apartment complexes than there were previously. He said that they
are considering an elementary school in the vicinity of Gravelly Hill Middle School. A lot of the
children from apartment complexes are coming from Ashbury in Mebane.
Donna Coffey said that the OCS Board knows this is an aggressive timeline of only two
years out, but they wanted to get this on the radar.
Commissioner Foushee said that all of this suggests that Orange County needs to invite
Mebane to be a part of the SAPFO agreement.
Commissioner Jacobs said that there was a meeting with the Mayor of Mebane and the
Chair and Vice-Chair awhile back (maybe when Commissioner Foushee was Vice-Chair).
There was discussion about the SAPFO and the need to bring Mebane in. He said that it is
important to proceed with joint planning with Mebane, but not just for SAPFO.
Chair Pelissier said that she and Donna Coffey may want to sit down with the City of
Mebane and discuss this issue.
Commissioner Jacobs suggested revisiting the projection of the multi-family housing
student generation.
2. Retiree Health Insurance Overview
Frank Clifton said that the staff is not proposing that the Board of County
Commissioners do anything at any specific time but this will affect the County's borrowing
capacity. He said that they are going to plan to set aside some funds for a reserve fund. He
said that the County spends about$1 million each year to fund retirees' health insurance.
Interim Human Resources Director Katherine Cathey went through the information in the
abstract.
BACKGROUND: The current Personnel Ordinance (Article IV, Section 28-36) requires the
County to provide health insurance, up to the same cost as active employees, for retirees who
have at least ten years of Orange County service upon retirement. Additionally, employees who
retire at age 65 or older and employees who retire due to disability with more than five years,
but less than ten years of Orange County service, are eligible for the 50% of this benefit.
Health coverage is provided differently depending on the age of the retiree. Retirees who have
not yet reached age 65 remain on the County's group health insurance and are eligible for the
dependent subsidy. In 2008, Commissioners approved a revision to the Personnel Ordinance
to stop subsidizing the cost of retiree dependent health care for employees hired after July 1,
2008. This has not had any noticeable impact on recruitment or on costs to date.
At age 65, retirees enroll in Medicare Part A (no cost to the retiree or County) and part B
(premium is deducted from the retiree's Social Security benefit), and the County pays for both a
Medicare supplement (Plan F) and Part D. Plan F is referred to as a "Medigap" plan because it
covers the gaps left by Medicare Parts A and B. Part D is prescription drug coverage. The
County has an arrangement with Blue Cross/Blue Shield of NC (BCBSNC) whereby retirees
enroll in the BCBSNC Plan F and Part D, and the County receives and pays one bill for all
enrolled post-65 retirees. This reduces the administrative burden on the County but increases
the financial burden because there are lower cost providers for Medicare supplements and Part
D. While every Plan F includes the same benefits, Part D plans vary from provider to provider.
Like every Part D plan, the BCBSNC Part D plan does not cover every medication prescribed
for all retirees.
Medicare has made several changes in the past few years, as has BCBSNC. Whenever
possible, the County has reduced costs for Plan F and Part D by making administrative
changes that did not affect the post-65 retiree benefits. The average cost of the County's cost
for post-65 retiree Medicare coverage is less than half of the cost of the group health insurance
individual premium.
As of February 2012, more than 12% (more than 100 individuals) of current Orange County
employees are eligible to retire. As more baby-boomers retire and live longer, retiree health
insurance will become a greater cost to the County. In 2011, approximately 100 employees
were eligible to retire and receive retiree health insurance, and in 2012, the number of
employees eligible to retire will exceed 120.
Orange County's benefits exceed the average health insurance benefit in North Carolina in
terms of co-pays and deductibles. As a comparison, the following information is included:
- Attachment 1 —summary of employee health care benefits from other of local
government employers throughout the state.
- Attachment 2 —Summary of Comparative retirees Health Cost and Liabilities
- Attachment 3— Projected Post-Employment Benefit Analysis through Fiscal Year 2017
- Attachment 4— Current Monthly Retiree Health Insurance Cost
Staff has previously identified a variety of options that lower the cost of employee and retiree
health care. These options were presented at the May 10, 2011 work session. Each option
has varying impacts on both retirees and the County.
The Manager recommended that the Board receive information on employee and retiree health
care and provide feedback regarding options related to employee and retiree health care
benefits. The FY 2012-13 proposed budget does not include any specific changes at this time,
but does expect to have budget projected increases (up to 15%) in premiums/costs.
Commissioner Yuhasz said that at a meeting with OPC Mental Health yesterday, they
were told that there are 11 employees that are on the retiree coverage that are under the age of
65, but when OPC dissolves on June 30th, there will be no more opportunities for these
employees to have retiree health coverage. It has been suggested and agreed by each of the
three counties in principle that those people who dedicated their professional services to OPC
deserve to have the benefit. It has been suggested that one of the three counties would accept
those 11 people into their health insurance plan and that OPC would fund the expenditure over
the period of time within that health plan. Chatham County is not particularly interested in
taking all of the people. He suggested that either Orange or Person County might be. OPC
would fund the expenditure at a level that is higher than what the County is currently paying. If
there is any left over, the county would keep it. If there was a shortfall, each of the three
counties would participate in a third of the cost of the overage. He asked the Board if they
would be willing to accept these employees into the system.
Frank Clifton said that he has been looking at the numbers. If it is funded as discussed,
it will not be a problem.
Commissioner McKee asked the staff to please make sure that all of this information is
put out to post-65 employees.
Commissioner Jacobs said that he appreciated the work that staff did to bring this to the
Board's attention. He said that starting a fund is a good idea now. He said that the County is
not in an emergency situation now, but they need to be clear to their retirees that the County is
not going to reduce the benefits, but only tweak them. He wants to be affirmative in standing by
the commitments.
Frank Clifton said that about 25% of the funds going to insurance are for retired
employees.
Commissioner Gordon asked if this would reduce the benefits for retirees.
Frank Clifton said that this depends on the decisions that are made.
Commissioner Hemminger suggested clarifying in the policy about the dependent
coverage and how it is only for those employed before July 1, 2008, and it is only 52%.
The Board decided to have this issue come back with some prioritization.
3. Presentation Reqardina the 2013 Revaluation of Real Propertv
Director of Tax Administration Jenkins Crayton said that staff received some advance
information a couple of weeks ago that property values are starting to drop. He made a
PowerPoint presentation.
REVALUATION 2013
Local Economv Continues Growth
For 2011:
- Business Property Value: Up 4.8°/a
- Motor Vehicle Value: Up 7.8%
- Real Estate New Construction and Development:
� $�70,000,000 ��.2�io)
- Tax Collections: Coming in faster by 26 basis points
Charts indicating:
Property values have begun to drop and sa/es are fewer
Potential Revenue Neutral Tax Increases in 2013
Revenues Needed
- Orange County: Up 7.7% or 6.6 cents $9.9 million
- Chapel Hill: Up 8.3% of 4.1 cents $2.6 million
- Chapel Hill-Carrboro Schools:
Up 7.6% or 1.4 cents $1.4 million
- Hillsborough: Up 6.2% or 0.38 cents $28,000
- Carrboro: Up 5.3% or 3.1 cents $590,000
Frank Clifton said that the County could do the revaluation in the four-year cycle that the
Board of County Commissioners has planned, but the cost of doing a revaluation is that every
governmental entity in Orange County will need to raise taxes to be revenue neutral.
Commissioner Yuhasz said that the alternative is not to do a revaluation and wait until
the values catch up, but he is not in favor of that.
Frank Clifton said that the requirement is to do a revaluation every eight years.
Chair Pelissier said that what worries her is that they would be basing a revaluation on
so few sales. She questions whether there would be a good revaluation.
Commissioner Jacobs said that he would like to see the percentage of sales that the
peer counties did in 2009 versus 2012.
Chair Pelissier agreed that this would be good data.
Frank Clifton said that the Board would need to make a decision to defer before the
budget by this summer and they need to have conversations with the towns.
With no further items to discuss, a motion was made by Commissioner Foushee,
seconded by Commissioner Jacobs to adjourn the meeting at 10:42 PM.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
Bernadette Pelissier, Chair
Donna S. Baker, CMC
Clerk to the Board