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ORANGE COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
CARRBORO BOARD OF ALDERMEN
CHAPEL HILL TOWN COUNCIL
JPA PUBLIC HEARING
March 29, 2004
7:30 p.m.
The Orange County Board of Commissioners met in joint session with the Carrboro Board
of Aldermen and the Chapel Hill Town Council on Monday, March 29, 20Q4 at 7:30 p.m. at the
Southern Human Services Center in Chapel Hill, North Carolina far the purpose of holding a
Joint Planning Area Public Hearing.
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Chair Barry Jacobs and Commissioners
Margaret Brown, Moses Carey, Jr., Alice M. Gordon, and Stephen Halkiotis
COUNTY ATTORNEY PRESENT: Geoffrey Gledhill and Sean Barhanian
COUNTY STAFF PRESENT: County Manager John M. Link, Jr., and Clerk to the Board
Donna S. Baker (All other staff members will be identified appropriately below}
TOWN OF CHAPEL HILL COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT: Mayor Kevin C. Foy and
Council Members Edith Wiggins, Bill Strom, Jim Ward, Mark Kleinschmidt, Ed Harrison,
Sally Greene and Cam Hill
CARRBORO BOARD OF ALDERMEN MEMBERS PRESENT: Mayor Mike Nelson and
Aldermen Alex Zaffron, John Herrera, Diana McDuffee, Mark Chilton, and Jaal Hall Broun
TOWN OF CHAPEL HILL COUNCIL MEMBERS ABSENT: Dorothy Verkerk
CARRBORO BOARD OF ALDERMEN MEMBERS ABSENT: Jacquelyn Gist
NOTE: ALL DOCUMENTS REFERRED TO IN THESE MINUTES ARE IN THE
PERMANENT AGENDA FILE IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
A. OPENING REMARKS FROM THE CHAIR- Chair Jacobs
Chair Jacobs called the meeting to order.
B. PUBLIC CHARGE
The Chair dispensed with the reading of the public charge.
C. PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
Craig Benedict said that this item is a combination between the three Planning departments
(Carrboro, Chapel Hill, and Orange County). The first two items are regarding the joint planning
agreement and the joint planning agreement text and map. The third item is mare specific to
Orange County.
He said that the discussion area goes back to May 2000 when, during the development of the
Chapel Hill Comprehensive Plan and Update, the urban services line was retracted.
1. Joint Planning Agreement-Amend Exhibit A {Joint Planning Land Use Map} to change
the designation of the Chapel Hill Southern Transition Area to Rural Buffer.
This amendment requires the approval of the Chapel Hill Town Council, Carrboro Board
of Aldermen, and Orange County Commissioners.
The first two items are to amend exhibit A, which would be a change in the Chapel Hill
Transition Area to rural buffer under Orange County's planning jurisdiction. After the map is
changed, then there must be a text change regarding the use of the land. If the three
jurisdictions agree to the change of a rural buffer designation, then there would be larger lot
sizes -two-acre minimum plus 33°~ open space in major subdivisions, or one unit per three
acres. Notification has been made to all people in this area and this area is primarily
undeveloped with very large lots.
Mayor Foy verified with Craig Benedict said that the way that it is currently zoned is a joint
planning area. Craig Benedict said yes, and if it becomes rural buffer, it is still part of the joint
planning area. Mayor Foy asked if it is zoned rural buffer, then it cannot be changed without all
three governments agreeing and Craig Benedict said yes.
Commissioner Gordon said that she thought if it went from Chapel Hill's jurisdiction to Orange
County's jurisdiction then it is a different kind of review in the transition area. Craig Benedict
said that this transition area is within Chapel Hill's planning jurisdiction. Orange County, through
the joint planning agreement, gave Chapel Hill the authority to plan outside of their ETJ. If this
is pulled out of the transition area and out of Chapel Hill's zoning, the authority returns back to
Orange County.
Joal Hall Broun asked if Chapel Hill could still annex with the designation change. Craig
Benedict said that Chapel Hill could annex into the rural buffer area.
Joal Hall Broun asked how people were notified and Craig Benedict said by newspaper
advertisements and direct mailings.
Alex Zaffron said that this item is designed to bring these land uses into compliance with Chapel
Hill's adopted 2000 Comprehensive Plan.
Kevin Foy said that the staff is in agreement but this is the first time the Council has heard this
formally.
Chair Jacobs said that this was brought up last year in concept.
Commissioner Brown said that there were big community meetings in this area as part of the
water and sewer boundary issue. She asked Roger Waldon to clarify this. Roger Waldon said
yes, this is in effect the final implementing piece of the Comprehensive Plan. He said that there
were a series of citizen meetings all through the process.
Mark Chilton asked where the White Rock Baptist Church is on the map because when they
voted to approve the small area plan for Chapel Hill and adopted the Southern Village strategy,
it was on the table to downsize the vicinity of the church to R-LD-S. This would have been a
minimum five-acre lot size. There was limited participation from the historic low-income
community around the church. They came before the Council and said that they had owned this
land and wanted to pass it down to their children and they asked the council to accommodate
them and not make it impassible to further subdivide their land. At that point, the Town Council
zoned it R-LD-1 so that they could further subdivide their land. He said that if this area is
included in this proposal, he would like to adjust the lines to accommodate this community.
Craig Benedict said that the White Rock Holiness Church is one of the properties in the area
(pp. 34-35).
Roger Waldan said that he remembers those discussions with the people in this area. He said
that some of those properties are now zoned R-LD-1, and there is no water and sewer service
available. The lot size is generally determined by this factor. For those properties, this action
would change the zoning from a one-acre minimum to a larger minimum lot size.
Commissioner Brawn asked far clarification of the proposed area and Craig Benedict explained
this and showed it an the map.
Alex Zaffron said that the part that they are talking about is the Southern Transition Area, which
is the only area in which there is joint jurisdiction. He said that Mark Chilton's point was
rendered moot by the decision that was made to remove the Southern Transition Area from the
urban services area, and therefore water and sewer cannot be extended. It is limited by septic
fields.
Mark Chilton asked about the minimum lot size for septic fields and Craig Benedict explained
that it depends on the soil and that it is usually 40,OOQ square feet if it can be achieved.
Sometimes it is 2-4 acres.
Mark Chilton said that he does not want to permanently shut off people from what could be a
practical possibility.
Kevin Foy asked if the ETJ of Chapel Hill was a statutory issue. Craig Benedict said that it was
a request through the State for a defined limit to the Town's zoning authority. The boundaries
were determined by statute through the request of Chapel Hill. The lines are relatively fixed
until a request is made to the State.
Roger Waldan said that these ETJ lines have been there far 50 years.
Joal Hall Broun asked why that line was selected and Roger Waldon said that in the 1950's the
Town of Chapel Hill was growing beyond its corporate limits and the concept of ETJ was coming
into practice. It was the act of the State Legislature to draw the lines where they did.
Jim Ward said that he was aware historically about the Southern Small Area Plan but he was
not aware that there was some late information from this community which resulted in the
change of zoning to R-LD-1. He agrees with Mark Chilton in that he doubts this community was
notified sufficiently about this change. He would like to back away from this if possible, with this
new information, but he would like to honor commitments in good faith from the past council.
He would like to have good communication with this community.
Public Comment
Barry Katz said that he thinks on a practical basis, this is about a zoning from one unit per acre
to one unit per three acres. He heard from Craig Benedict that this is Triassic soil and you
would need close to three acres to get a perk site. He does not see a dramatic difference
between what can practically be done under the proposed rules versus what exists now.
Bill Strom asked Mayor Foy how he would envision the Council would proceed at this point.
Mayor Foy said that the plan was for the Council to refer comments back to Chapel Hill's staff
and to come back with a recommendation. It is possible that the recommendation would be to
have another public hearing. He suggested continuing on and having a community meeting at
the church.
Chair Jacobs asked Roger Waldon about the land use plan update and the decisions that were
made. Roger Waldon said that the decision that was made in 2000 was at the end of
discussions with the Council. They ended up focusing on the urban boundary and there were
some areas in the south that were envisioned to stay low density and not become urban in
character. The policy decision was to be the vision for those areas that they would not be urban
and therefore would not be in the urban services boundary.
Chair Jacobs asked if .92 acres was consistent with "non-urban." Roger Waldon made
reference to the area in the vicinity of the church and said that the policy determination of the
Council was that it was not envisioned to become urban and will not have water and sewer and
will not become more dense.
Bill Strom asked what kind of notification would have been given to this community and Roger
Waldon said that it was not direct mail notice, but was part of a larger process at that time and
they had had a number of print ads.
Edith Wiggins said that she remembers that a lot of citizens advocated to putting as much land
in the rural buffer as possible. She does not remember any citizens asking them to allow for
continued subdividing of the land and giving it to their children. Her reservations at that time
were taking more land out that could have been used for affordable housing. The agreement
within the Council was to identify more corridors in Chapel Hill and devote them specifically for
more affordable housing. She is glad that Mark Chilton has raised this and maybe we need to
find out, in light of septic tank requirements, if this is something that we can make modifications
in the plan or if it makes no difference. She said that people may not be aware that they cannot
subdivide in the future and there should be a real study of what the situation is. She suggested
continuing the process, but getting mare information about the conditions.
Alex Zaffron said that this does not need to involve all three jurisdictions and Chapel Hill needs
to review this issue and the policy decisions that were made.
Mayor Foy said that it would be surprising to him if Chapel Hill wanted to reopen discussions of
the Comprehensive Plan. He said that what is going on here is that Orange County is going to
accept control back.
Chair Jacobs said that Environmental Health could look at the soils more closely and share the
information with all three boards.
Mark Chilton said that there are probably a number of landowners with public right-of-way
access issues that would prohibit them from dividing their land anyway.
Chair Jacobs said that they could ask staff to give them those details and the staffs could work
together and have Environmental Health look at the soils.
Commissioner Gordon said that in terms of what Orange County could do, she is not familiar
with any zoning area in the rural buffer that would be different. There is only one category in the
rural buffer.
Craig Benedict said that Environmental Health could not do a lot-by-lot analysis, but they can do
a generalized description of the soils in the area.
Edith Wiggins said that one of the purposes of a community meeting is to target those few
families that would be adversely affected and then they would know before any decisions were
made. She said that it makes a big difference to a family whose roots have been in Orange
County far many years.
Mark Kleinschmidt asked if another option would be to rezone that area. Roger Waldon said
that Chapel Hill does have more zoning categories areas than the JPA allows for. If the
objective is to have no adverse impact on property owners, then the logical action would be to
take no action and leave things as they are. If the jurisdiction changes from Chapel Hill to
Orange County, then the zoning changes. His opinion is that the impact would be minimal for
many of the properties.
Mayor Foy asked about the RT designation and Roger Waldon said that Rural Transition is a 2-
acre minimum lot size.
Geof Gledhill said that once the land use plan changes and this area becomes rural buffer then
Orange County would maintain the zoning.
Chair Jacobs said that one way to deal with this is to say that they have had discussions and
have referred it to staff and work with Environmental Health, determine who will hold a public
information meeting in the community, and change the order so that Chapel Hill approves first.
Chair Jacobs said that they need motions but Carrboro's would be after May 10tH
Town of Chapel Hill:
A motion was made by Jim Ward, seconded by Bill Strom to accept the Planning Staff's
recommendation to refer the proposed amendment to the Joint Planning Area Land Use Plan to
the Chapel Hill Planning Board for a recommendation to be returned to the Chapel Hill Town
Council no sooner than May 10, 2004.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
Town of Carrboro:
A motion was made by Alex Zaffron, seconded by Joal Hall Braun to accept the Planning Staff's
recommendation to refer the proposed amendment to the Joint Planning Area Land Use Plan to
the Carrboro Planning Board for a recommendation to be returned to the Carrboro Board of
Aldermen no sooner than May 10, 2004.
Orange County:
A motion was made by Commissioner Halkiotis, seconded by Commissioner Gordan to accept
the Planning Staff's recommendation to refer the proposed amendment to the Joint Planning
Area Land Use Plan to the Orange County Planning Board far a recommendation to be returned
to the Board of Commissioners no sooner than June 23, 2004.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
2. Joint Planning Area Land Use Plan and Map
Amend the Joint Planning Area Land Use Plan and Map to remove references to the Chapel Hill
Southern Transition Area and Southern Small Area Plan and to change the designation of the
Chapel Hill Southern Transition Area to Rural Buffer.
This amendment requires the approval of the Chapel Hill Town Council, Carrboro Board
of Aldermen, and Orange County Commissioners.
Town of Chapel Hill:
A motion was made by Jim Ward, seconded by Bill Strom to accept the Planning Staff's
recommendation to refer the proposed amendment to the Joint Planning Area Land Use Plan
and Map to the Chapel Hill Planning Board for a recommendation to be returned to the Chapel
Hill Town Council no sooner than May 10, 2004.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
Town of Carrboro:
A motion was made by Alex Zaffron, seconded by Joal Hall Broun to accept the Planning Staff's
recommendation to refer the proposed amendment to the Joint Planning Area Land Use Plan
and Map to the Carrbara Planning Board for a recommendation to be returned to the Carrbara
Board of Aldermen no sooner than May 10, 2004.
Orange County:
A motion was made by Commissioner Halkiotis, seconded by Commissioner Gordon to accept
the Planning Staff's recommendation to refer the proposed amendment to the Joint Planning
Area Land Use Plan and Map to the Orange County Planning Board for a recommendation to
be returned to the Board of Commissioners no sooner than June 23, 2004.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
Orange County Zoning Atlas -Amend the Orange County Zoning Atlas for the area
currently designated as Chapel Hill Southern Transition Area and proposed far the Rural
Buffer land use category from Chapel Hill R-LD-1 zoning to Orange County Rural Buffer
(RB) zoning.
This amendment requires the approval of the Orange County Commissioners.
A motion was made by Commissioner Halkiotis, seconded by Commissioner Gordon
to accept the Planning Staff's recommendation to approve the proposed amendment
to the Orange County Zoning Atlas contingent upon approval of the amendments to
the Joint Planning Agreement and the Joint Planning Area Land Use Plan; and
following action on these items by the Carrboro Board of Aldermen (May 10, 2004)
and the Chapel Hill Town Council (May 10, 2004), the matter will be referred to the
Orange County Planning Board for a recommendation to be returned to the Board of
Commissioners no sooner than June 23, 2004.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
The closing of the public hearing was implicit in the motions
Craig Benedict said that they would be holding township meetings to take comment on the
County's comprehensive plan.
Commissioner Gordon said that the materials are available to the public from their township
meetings and Craig Benedict said that they were available on the website as well as some hard-
copies.
D. NON-PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
Chapel Hill Town Council Members Edith Wiggins, Mark Kleinschmidt, Ed Harrison, Sally
Greene and Cam Hill left the meeting at 8:45 p.m.
Carrboro Town Aldermen Alex Zaffron and Mayor Mike Nelson left at 8:45 p.m.
9:
1. Agricultural Business Options/Rural Enterprises - To receive a brief report on a
proposal to allow a greater range of agricultural enterprises in the rural areas. Although
this is a countywide planning jurisdiction initiative, the report will focus on the Rural
Buffer portion of the Joint Planning Area.
This item is informational only and no action by the three governing boards is
needed.
Tina Moon made this presentation, which follows:
In May of 20Q2 (May 28, 2iJ02}, Orange County staff presented the Commissioners with a
proposal to provide more agricultural business options for local farmers. The project was a
response to an increasing number of inquiries, in the planning and economic development
departments, on haw to develop operations that were agricultural in character but not
specifically listed as permitted in the County's current Table of Permitted Uses. Some examples
included: corn mazes, teaching farms, composting operations, and rodeos.
Staff's initial work focused on:
• Identifying uses that are not allowed per our present ordinance but may be appropriate;
• Considering the needs of smaller farm operations-5-2Q acres in size, including
cultivated or pasture lands within subdivision open space;
• Addressing facilities that process andtar sell agricultural products, which may ar may not
be produced on site;
• Determining where such special agricultural operations and facilities are best suited, and
perhaps
• Revising our existing zoning district categories-creating a potential new district far
Agricultural Businesses or modifying our existing Agricultural Services district.
Proposal:
The simple color progression chart, (which was just handed out) provides asnap-shot overview
of the direction that we have been heading--categorizing uses based on the strength of their link
to agriculture, their intensity (size and scale), and creating permitting procedures accordingly
(hence the progression from green to brawn). Since the purpose of this project is to make it
easier to establish agricultural-related businesses, we have also shown the approximate length
of the permitting process with arrows at the bottom of the chart.
Much of this project has been a response to the changing face of agriculture in Orange County.
And while we have been working on a specific list of uses and related definitions let me just
touch an some of the key items we have tried to address.
- Identifying new types of Bona fide Farms, such as community supported agriculture
(CSA}-
~ Providing a straightforward process for pursuing Bona fide Farm Accessory Uses
such as farm stands, pick-your-own operations;
- We have proposed allowing Off-Season Use of Farm Equipment (grading and
landscaping) so long as the equipment is properly screened from the road and from
neighbors
- We have also tried increasing local farm profitability by allowing processing and retail
sale operations that are not linked to a specific farm only if they sale predominately
locally grown products.
- We are proposing provisions for allowing for veterinarian services mobile or with hospital
in the rural areas so farmers don't have to carry large animals to the commercial
districts.
- And finally far allowing for large-scale operations such as wineries with events,
local/regional processing facilities that would provide a service to area farmers and
provide employment to local residents, and equestrian facilities for large numbers of
spectators such as rodeos.
Outstanding issues:
When we first envisioned this project we categorized ag-related uses in a single continuum from-
bona fide farms to large-scale industrial processing plants. But what we have discovered going
along is that there may be some overlap in our categories. The most challenging aspect of the
project has been defining the threshold where a farming activity becomes commercial in character
and may need to be in a commercial zone. This latest version of the chart reflects that the same
use may require a different permitting process depending on its zoning district, for example (feed
mill and farm supply stores}.
How Will this Impact the Rural Buffer:
We have envisioned this program as a countywide initiative. Staff can limit ag-related uses in
the Rural Buffer to those that seem more conducive to urban residents such as farm stands,
wineries and research facilities that may be linked to UNC, or allow almost all farm related uses
through out the county's jurisdiction. Certainly large-scale operations such as those designed to
provide local employment would mast likely be located in the mast rural farm communities, such
as Carr or Cedar Grove.
RECOMMENDATIONS}: Tonight's presentation is for information purposes only.
While we recognize that any future zoning ordinance amendments that will affect the rural buffer
will be subject to the formal joint planning area review process, we would like to offer the towns
of Chapel Hill and Carrboro an opportunity for input on the overall concept before we go any
further. We also recognize that the performance standards developed as part of any future
ordinance amendments will be key fo the success of this protect.
Diana McDuffie said that she hopes that they have considered having control over siting a hog
farm. She wonders what would happen if there was same sort of agricultural industry that they
did not want to see.
Tina Moon said that they have not pursued this specifically
Chair Jacobs said that there were some meetings years ago before Chatham County lost its
case, but they have not discussed it as part of this. He is not sure if the County has much
purview based on what the courts have ruled.
Craig Benedict said that bona fide farms are exempt from their zoning regulations.
Joal Hall Broun asked if there could be a bona fide farm and a bed and breakfast associated
with it and if there would be an opportunity far a farmer to do this or if there would be more
constraints. Craig Benedict said that there would be no more constraints.
Bill Strom asked about application of these for the entire County, including the rural buffer.
Craig Benedict said that the rural buffer would be within Grange County's planning jurisdiction.
Bill Strom said that there is a wide range of uses and there needs to be some distinction in the
categories. Same of the uses would be great in the rural buffer and some would seem
problematic.
Craig Benedict said that they are not suggesting that all of these uses will go in every zoning
district in the County. The next step in the process is to scale these uses appropriately for
different parts of the County.
Commissioner Gordon said that this is a change from the uses currently allowed in the rural
buffer and she did have some concerns about this. She would like more oversight over same of
these proposed uses and the degree of oversight could be different for different zoning districts,
depending on density and other factors.
Mark Chilton said that he agrees with Commissioner Gordon. He said that he is glad that the
County is looking at this because of the reports of a bad outlook for farming. He said that the
Maple View Farm Ice Cream store has been a great development and a positive impact an the
quality of life in southern Orange County. He said that he has talked with people that are from
Chapel Hill and Carrboro and are interested in doing alternative agricultural activities and one of
the challenges is to get soil to the point that it can produce. He asked if it would be possible to
write development rules in some way in Orange County that would allow people to divide lots to
smaller lot sizes than is currently allowed in the rural buffer, provided that the smaller lots would
never be permitted to have a dwelling and would be used as a small scale farming operation.
He said that these types of activities would be more compatible with the rural buffer.
Jim Ward asked if retail and wholesale greenhouses would fall under this spectrum. Craig
Benedict said that wholesale greenhouses would fall under bona fide farm. They are trying to
define when it becomes not primarily a wholesale use. If it is outright retail sales, it would be in
a commercial node.
Chair Jacobs said that he thought there was a category for winery with six events, and he thinks
the wording is too restrictive. He also thinks that composting under agricultural services is too
restrictive. He would like to figure out where bed and breakfast should go and put it on there
because it will be a common question, just like greenhouses. He asked what happened to
greenhouses on this list.
Craig Benedict said that greenhouses would fall under the bona fide farm. Greenhouses could
be put an the chart and they could elaborate.
Mark Chilton asked if Jim Ward thought these would be appropriate in the rural buffer and Jim
Ward said that they might be but that it is a matter of scale and impact on adjacent properties.
9:
2. Twin Creeks (Moniese Nomp) - In December 2003, the Board of County
Commissioners received the report of the Chapel Hill Township Park and Educational
Campus Master Plan Work Group and renamed the 193 acre site Twin Creeks {Moniese
Nomp - Tutelo-Sapani for Twin Creeks}. The boards will review the components of the
Master Plan, consider a possible phase I of the park, and discuss issues identified in
previous meetings.
This item is informational only and no action by the three governinr~ boards is
needed.
Environment and Resource Conservation Director Dave Stancil said that this is a 193-acre site
that is near the intersection of Eubanks Road and Old NC 86. He showed the new 2003 color
photos. He gave the history of the planning far the park. The master plan document can be
downloaded at the County's website.
Dave Stancil said that there is an educational campus to the north of Jones Creek and a 96-
acre park site to the south. The plan shows six playing fields. There are four multi-use fields.
There is access off of Old NC 86. The educational campus would be accessed off of Eubanks
Road. There is a proposed connector road in the Town of Carrboro's plan that connects Lake
Hogan Farm Road with Eubanks Road. There is also a proposed subdivision before the Town
of Carrboro on an adjacent property.
The subcommittee that worked on the educational campus identified an elementary and a
middle school. There is a proposed Carrboro greenway and the two northern fields could be
shared with the schools. There is also a proposal for a bus stop for public transportation.
One of the issues that will be coming up is a shared entranceway with the proposed new
subdivision.
Diana McDuffie asked if the four fields are full sized soccer fields and Dave Stancil said yes and
that they are a little longer than full size. Diana McDuffie said that in reading about the attempts
to share soccer fields with the school systems, this has been a challenge. She wonders if we
should study this attempt to share fields with the schools. She has heard about fields being
taken out of use because of overuse.
Dave Stancil said that they will bringing to the Board a prototype field that speaks to size and
different surfaces. Diana McDuffie said that she hopes that this park can address same of the
concerns about the lack of soccer fields.
Joal Hall Broun made reference to the plan for bus stops at the park and asked if there would be
any access to the schools. Dave Stancil said yes and that there are two stops.
Joal Hall Broun asked that prior to the final decision, that the Board of County Commissioners
open this up to public hearing about the number of soccer fields.
Chair Jacobs said that the Board of County Commissioners has only looked at this plan one
time for a short period of time and they have a lot of questions and they will consider public
comment.
Jim Ward encouraged the Board to look at how the fields work for soccer tournaments. His
knee-jerk reaction is to get more input about the soccer fields because the ones they have get
so beat up. He would also encourage a simplification of the road system because it seems to
unnecessarily meander through the athletic area.
Dave Stancil said that there were many tweaks and changes to the design and a lot of the
design is to accommodate future use of the farmstead.
Mark Chilton asked if the County would pay to build the road (Lake Hogan Farm Road} as part
of the development of this site. Dave Stancil said that right now there is a line on the map
between two points and they tried to came up with a road that matches the topography of the
site that provides access to a landlocked parcel. There was a definite request from the schools
not to separate out a portion of the school site. The answer to this question will come later. He
understands that developers of the property in the Town are required to build segments of the
road that are on their properties.
Dave Stancil said that they envision this to be as much as a four phase park. Phase 1 may be
proposed as an entry road, a meadow, and the lower playing fields.
Mark Chilton said that it confers a huge benefit on the adjacent property owners to pay for
putting the road through there. He asked about the planning and zoning jurisdiction and Dave
Stancil said that it would come to Carrboro as a conditional use permit application.
Mark Chilton said that the Hogan's would probably be interested at some point in being annexed
by the Town of Carrboro. Dave Stancil said that he has met with the owners and they are
aware.
Chair Jacobs said that the County will have to provide water and sewer and the developers
could take advantage since OWASA changed its policy so that it no longer requires
reimbursement. He said that they were putting up public infrastructure, which will promote
residential development.
Joal Hall Braun said that the Board has not made any decisions about where the road will go
and until the Board has a more specific discussion, then nothing could be done about the road
Diana McDuffie said that they should not take Mark Chilton's comments as unanimous. She
wants the road built, but she thinks the current layout of the road makes inefficient use of the
space there.
Chair Jacobs said that this plan is based on the assumption that Carrboro was going to require
the road.
Commissioner Gordon asked about the next steps. Dave Stancil that they would be developing
a proposal for phase 1 of the park. At this time, they will not be addressing the educational
campus.
Commissioner Brown left at 9:30 p.m.; and Mayor Foy and Commissioner Halkiotis left the
meeting at 9:32 p.m.
Commissioner Gordon asked about a schedule for getting this to Carrboro. Chair Jacobs said
that they have at least submitted this plan to Carrboro so that the planning process can begin.
9: E. ADJOURNMENT
With no further items to discuss, the meeting was adjourned at 9:45 p.m.
Barry Jacobs, Chair
Donna S. Baker
Clerk to the Board