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MINUTES
ORANGE COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
SPECIAL MEETING
November 26, 2001
G:15
The Orange County Board of Commissioners met in the F. Gordon Battle Courtroom in
Hillsborough, North Carolina on Monday, November 26, 2001 at 6:15 p.m. for the purpose of holding
a work session.
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Chair Stephen H. Halkiotis and Commissioners
Margaret W. Brown, Moses Carey, Jr., Alice M. Gordon and Barry Jacobs
COUNTY ATTORNEY PRESENT: Geoffrey Gledhill
COUNTY STAFF PRESENT: County Manager Jahn M. Link, Jr., Assistant County Manager
Rod Visser and Clerk to the Board Beverly A. Blythe All other staff members will be identified
appropriately below}
NOTE: ALL DOCUMENTS REFERRED TO IN THESE MINUTES ARE IN THE PERMANENT
AGENDA FILE IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
(1 ~,ganizational Assessment Phase 2 Information Technology SIT}
Review -Presentation from IT Review Consultant and Discussion
Kevin Fitzgerald, Center for Public Technology, said that this is a status report. He still
has other people to interview before writing his final report. His target is to have this report ready for
the County Commissioners' retreat in January. Kevin Fitzgerald made a powerpoint presentation.
He covered the purpose of the project, methodology and benchmarking. The final report will include
recommendations to improve the operation of Information Technology in Orange County.
Commissioner Brown asked that Kevin Fitzgerald interview members of the IT staff
along with members of the IT Committee, Department Heads, members of other Information
Technology staff and others who use the system.
In answer to another question Kevin Fitzgerald indicated he was not working with any
of the municipalities. However, the Institute of Government does have pertinent information from
other municipalities that he will use in his analysis. What he hopes is that he can develop some
methodology to da some comparisons. He talked about three sets of generic issues. The first
relates to software, hardware, network and architecture, the second is the business side and what it
supports and the third is management and what it supports. He noted that the IT budget is very
small. When looking at the services that technology supports, it is virtually everything. He is looking
at the County as an enterprise - not an individual department or application but as a whole and how
services are provided. The software applications have different ages; different staff, different
software and they all have to work together which is very difficult. In Orange County the Board of
County Commissioners made a decision to replace desktop computers every three years. When he
talks about network connections, he is talking about haw the information goes back and forth and
gets connected. It has to work in ways that are safe, reliable, and secure and in place when it is
needed. This includes the capacity of the County to provide services via applications, networks and
software. Architecture is setting out a game plan of what is the equipment, hardware and software
that will be supported. It is a plan for the future of how it can be done efficiently. The County is
looking at reworking some of their major business systems. When they look at the software, it will
be something that will fit with the mainframe and hardware in place. The state of North Carolina has
put in a very detailed architecture, which lays everything out. Very few Counties or municipalities
have done this because it casts a lot of money. The software and hardware is just one piece of
this. The other is Business processes -not the technology itself but what you want the technology
to do to run and support the business - it needs to be clear. When business processes are not
clear, software is bought and then changes have to be made so that the software can fit. It is
important that management knows what they want to accomplish.
Commissioner Gordan asked about how best to use the technology and if Kevin Fitzgerald
has a recommended process. Kevin Fitzgerald said that when he has had to make a change far
something that should be automated - he looks at the requirement and the requirement drives the
decision far the software. A big issue is having the capacity in the staff. Staff would need to be
hired or it would need to be contracted out. He made reference to Gaal Alignment and asked if the
Strategic Plan {which is the technology plan} is taking into consideration where the technology is
moving and including the County Commissioners' goals. Performance Measurement looks at what
the measures of performance are an the part of technology in response time, problem solution,
effectiveness and efficiency. This needs to be built in so that the County Commissioners can see
what kind of return they are receiving on their investment. Project Management - IT project
management -when the County purchases software, there is always an issue of management, risk
and contingencies and if they are followed up. Project Management is essential and critical.
Kevin Fitzgerald stressed the importance of strong intergovernmental relationships -County
with State and other municipalities. The County serves as an agent of the state by providing
services involving child support, health and social services. The State provides services through the
County. Therefore, it is important that the County have enough staff that are trained and able to
support the technology mandated by the State. Kevin Fitzgerald noted that in Orange County
several of the departments have staff designated as technology staff for that department or area of
government. He feels that being supportive of technology and technological advances is important.
Regarding training and development, staff must be trained as technology changes.
Kevin Fitzgerald said that technology can support anything the County wants to do, but a
determination needs to be made to be sure it can be cost justified. Also, the departments need to
look at what they are doing and ask if this information was moved to the web would it have value to
the citizens. It is very important to provide information to the citizens of Orange County via the web
that will benefit both the citizens and the County departments.
Kevin Fitzgerald made reference to benchmarking and said that what he is doing is talking
with the IT directors of different counties. When looking at organizational issues, same IT
departments handle cable franchising, computers in the schools, etc.
Commissioner Gordon asked Kevin Fitzgerald if he feels he is interviewing enough people in
the County and he said that he is interviewing enough people to get an overview and he feels it will
be complete enough to identify issues. On organizational issues, he is looking at haw the IT
department is put together and who they are reporting ta. He is seeing a variety of organizational
frames reporting to different people. Regarding the IT budget, Orange County seems low compared
to other counties particularly in terms of positions, (Guilford has 58, Buncombe 46, etc.) His initial
take on this is that the way that IT is framed here looks like a small unit in comparison to some of
the larger benchmarks. He is looking at the issues with the budget. In Orange County not all the
information technology functions go through the IT department. This works in different ways in other
counties. In terms of planning practices, looking at the strategic plans and capital planning can
project for the next five years what it will cost. In terms of working relationships with other
departments, that is a real important piece and that gets to fact that there are islands of technology
and staff in other departments of the County. What he is seeing in other counties is that most IT
departments are comprehensive. Regarding security practices, it is very important to handle
viruses when they occur. Mainframe migration is an issue he would like to talk to Orange County
about. Project management is important so that when changes are made to the system, all risks
and ramifications are identified and evaluated.
Kevin Fitzgerald said that the issues on which he will spend a fair amount of time deal with
staffing, budget, business planning-goal alignment, strategic planning, mainframe migration, project
management methodology, performance measurement and issues associated with assuring security
in the County's system.
Commissioner Gordon asked a question about architecture and Kevin Fitzgerald said that
there is in place architecture, which is included in the strategic plan.
Chair Halkiotis clarified that the most common management of information technology is
under one department -not spread out in the various departments.
Commissioner Brawn asked how the County system could serve the public. Kevin Fitzgerald
said that it would be from the business processes.
Commissioner Brown asked if there should be a list of things that should be made available
to our citizens.
John Link said that the County Commissioners need to hear from focus groups on what
functions they would like to have available to the public.
Commissioner Carey said that once the areas of business the County conducts are identified,
then the County Commissioners would look at the areas we feel the public would like to have
access.
Commissioner Gordon made reference to the investment made by the County and asked if
Kevin Fitzgerald has a recommendation for the cost and he said that this information will be in his
next report. His recommendation would reflect the cost.
Water and Sewer Management, Planning and Boundary Agreement
The Board was to consider adoption of the Water and Sewer Management, Planning and
Boundary Agreement fallowing final review by parties to the agreement. This item was postponed to
the December 3, 2001 meeting.
Orange County Transportation Priority List for 2004-2010 TIP
The Board was to consider Orange County's transportation priority projects for the 2004-2010
Transportation Improvements Program. This item was postponed to the December 3, 2001 meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
With no further items far the work session, a motion was made by Commissioner Brown,
seconded by Commissioner Jacobs to adjourn this meeting. The next meeting will follow this
meeting.
Stephen H. Halkiotis, Chair
Beverly A. Blythe, CMC
APPROVED 2/5/2002
MINUTES
ORANGE COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
AND
ORANGE COUNTY PLANNING BOARD
JOINT PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA
NOVEMBER 26, 2001
The Orange County Board of Commissioners and the Planning Board met in joint session on
Monday, November 26, 2001 at 7:30 p.m. in the F. Gordon Battle Courtroom in Hillsborough, North
Carolina.
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Chair Stephen H. Halkiotis and Commissioners
Margaret W. Brown, Moses Carey, Jr., Alice M. Gordon and Barry Jacobs
COUNTY ATTORNEY PRESENT: Geoffrey Gledhill
COUNTY STAFF PRESENT: County Manager John M. Link, Jr., Assistant County Manager Rad
Visser and Clerk to the Board Beverly A. Blythe (All other staff members will be identified appropriately
below}
PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT: Chair Nicole Gooding-Ray, Howard McAdams, Bob
Strayhorn, Barry Katz, Maria Tad, Ted Triebel, Rachel Preston, Lynn Holtkamp, and Hunter Schofield
NOTE: ALL DOCUMENTS REFERRED TO IN THESE MINUTES ARE IN THE PERMANENT
AGENDA FILE IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
A. OPENING REMARKS FROM THE CHAIR
Chair Halkiotis welcomed those in attendance.
B. PUBLIC CHARGE
Chair Halkiotis dispensed with the reading of the public charge.
C. PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
1. Petitioner Initiated Zoning Atlas Amendment
Andrew B. and Camelia C. Lloyd petitions to rezone property from Agricultural
Residential (U-Eno-CA) to Existing Commercial - 5 (U-Eno-CA}.
Planning Director Craig Benedict presented the information for this item. This is a
legislative process as opposed to an evidentiary hearing. This property is located at the northeast
intersection of Mt. Willing Road and NC 10 West. This is adjacent to the I-4011-$5 intersection.
Planner Robert Davis went through the specifics of the application. He presented to
the County Commissioners photographs of the existing tract and buildings. This is a rezoning from an
AR district to the EC-5 district under the newly adopted procedure. This is a general use petition, sa
there should be no mention of the intended use of the property. The petitioner is requesting that a 1.03
acre tract be rezoned to existing EC-5. The original tract was approximately 0.27 acres and the provision
in the ordinance that the petitioner is using tonight is a request to reestablish the existing size of the
current EC-5 district. The property is in the upper Eno critical area. There is a small wooded area
behind the property. The comprehensive plan recommends this area to be agricultural residential in the
upper Eno critical area. The zoning for the adjacent parcel is AR. Across Mt. Willing Road, there is
another EC-5 parcel owned by Kenan Enterprises. The EC-5 zoning was adapted in Cheeks Township
on October 1, 1984. When NCDOT widened Mount Willing Raad, they did a condemnation for an
eminent domain procedure on a portion of the property. This was disputed and went to court. A consent
judgement and a civil action suit were filed whereby NCDOT obtained the additional right-af-way.
Subsequently, there was a procedure where the owner was paid an additional $136,875 aver the
$88,125 that was originally paid for the tract. The owner was paid a total of $225,000 for the acquired
right-of-way. The new text amendment that went through a year ago has a statement that, "not
withstanding the intent and the application criteria and the EC-5 district, an EC-5 district eliminated ar
reduced to anon-functional zoning lot as a result of a public entity, condemnation, or partial taking, may
be amended by the Board of County Commissioners' legislative action provided the following criteria are
met." A) The amended district acreage shall not be increased in size by more than 10% of the
existing parcel. The use shall be the same primary use as listed in the EC-5 inventory when the
district was originally created. Staff is not recommending the additional 10°l0. The original taking was
enough to reestablish should the Board decide. B) The new district shall be contiguous to the
existing district. C) Land not rezoned or not included within the new petitioned district shall be
petitioned, by the owner, to be returned to the zoning classification of the surrounding land. In
the event there is mare than one adjacent zoning district, the tract shall be returned to the lower
use category of the surrounding adjacent property provided anon-conforming situation is not
created on the subject or adjacent parcels. This does not apply in this case because the land was
taken. D) Additional property added to an existing parcel shall be recombined by deed into one
zoning lot prior to issuance of zoning or building permits. The property added to the existing parcel
will be recombined by deed into one zoning lot prior to issuance of zoning or building permits. E)
Conformance with the Comprehensive Plan shall not be mandatory when considering a
rezoninglrelocation of an EC-5 district, but shall be evaluated. The EC-5 districts are not mentioned
in the comprehensive plan at this time. F) If a condemnation results in less than or equal amount of
property being taken for public right-of-way than is specified in the Orange County
Comprehensive Plan (transportation element) for typical right-of-way dedication, then this
section shall not be used. More right-of-way was taken by NCDOT than was recommended in the
Orange County Subdivision Regulations.
The staff recommendation is to refer the zoning petition to the Planning Board for a
recommendation to be returned to the Board of County Commissioners no sooner than February 19,
2002. The Planning staff recommendation is approval to allow the original sized district to be
reestablished with the rezoning.
Questions from the Board of County Commissioners
Commissioner Gordan made reference to page 009, K and the recommended
conditions. She asked why it said, "only the portion of a sign for fuel pricing may be internally eliminated"
because we are not supposed to know with respect to the zoning petition what use it will be. Robert
Davis said that these criteria would be applied during the building permit, assuming that this is approved.
Commissioner Jacobs asked for an explanation of item I and what the EDD standards
might be. Craig Benedict said that the EDD standards have to do with architecture, parking lots, and site
planning to make sure that there are additional standards that can be garnered from the EDDs to make
sure that those higher standards for the reconstruction of EC-5 are used.
Commissioner Jacobs asked if the EDD standards would apply to all the EC-5 districts
in the County and Craig Benedict said that the EDD standards could only be used where land has been
taken by eminent domain.
Commissioner Jacobs said that there was a similar instance on Erwin Road and asked
where that is in the process and Craig Benedict said that they have worked on this for the last 8-10
months and there are issues with water and sewer.
Commissioner Brown asked about the critical area and if the use would be a gas station
and if there are ways to detect the runoff. Craig Benedict said that there are a lot of state and federal
regulations that will make this type of facility meet higher environmental standards.
Questions from the Planning Board
In answer to a question from Howard McAdams, Craig Benedict said that the new
standards would apply to all of the land that is being requested (1.09 acres). Part of the program of re-
instituting the EC-5 use is to have the use of the original site plus the 10% that was requested to be
under the new regulations.
Bob Strayhorn asked about the setback far the original site. Craig Benedict said that the
setbacks were 40 feet in the front yard and 20 feet around the perimeter areas. There are some certain
buffer requirements of landscaping in the EC-5.
Commissioner Gordon asked if the 10% is needed to meet the higher standards and if
they do not get it, what would happen. Craig Benedict said that having the additional 10°~ would allow
the applicant to have more impervious area. If they do not get the 10°,6, there might have to be
encumbrance of other properties so that the impervious area could be shifted.
Public Comment
Alois Callemyn was representing the applicant. He asked if the County Commissioners
got the rezoning request in writing. He said that Ben Lloyd is a farmer and was raised in this community.
Since 1922 there has not been a lot sold on this land other than to a farmer. Obviously this land cannot
be used for farming. He appreciates his working relationship with the Planning staff. He said that the
site would be held to a higher standard than in 1987 when Mr. Lloyd applied for the building permit. With
regard to the 10%, there will be buffers there that will not be used. They are requesting the 10%
because the property has right-of-way on three sides. Regarding the 20-foot elevation, he does not
believe the elevation will have an impact on the flow of water. He said that they have contacted all the
surrounding owners and they have all given Mr. Lloyd their verbal approval of this site.
A motion was made by Commissioner Jacobs, seconded by Commissioner Gordon to
refer this matter to the Planning Board far a recommendation to be returned to the Board of County
Commissioners no sooner than February 19, 2002.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
2. Renewal of Special Use Permit, Class A
Reba and Roses, Inc. requested to renew a Special Use Permit, Class A for
property zoned Agricultural Residential.
The Clerk swore in 5 people -Jim Boericke, Jaki Shelton Greene, Laura Baldwin,
Craig Benedict and Annie Hassell.
Craig Benedict said that a corrected abstract was distributed this evening. The
Special Use Permit for this property expires on February 12th so it is important that the County
Commissioners consider this renewal before that time. The recommendation has been revised to meet
this timeline.
Craig Benedict made the presentation. This is an existing special use permit, class
A, which requires Board review and comment every six years. In 1996, it was originally approved and
there was a site plan far a retail shop to sell rases and garden areas and a gift shop. It was approved in
1996 and it has been in operation since then. There were same conditions of approval and all of these
were met. Part of the renewal process is an analysis of the site to evaluate if the project has stayed in
compliance for the last six years. He referred to page 45, which is the staff analysis. There was another
greenhouse added to the property aver the years, and if the Board sa chooses to renew this special use
permit, the applicant has stated that they will obtain the necessary building permits to be sure the
structure meets the building code. The staff is suggesting that all structures that have not been permitted
be permitted appropriately. There was one additional condition regarding a pedestrian scenic walkway
along Nancy Hill Creek because of its proximity to Churton Grave. He suggested that this condition not
be included at this time. He feels that there can be further discussion with adjacent property owners to
evaluate the continuation of public access trails. If at some point in the future there is a need for these
pedestrian walkways, it can be considered at that time. Staff is recommending that the similar
conditions imposed in 1996 be re-instituted for this property and that the condition regarding the
pedestrian walkway be deleted from the recommendation and that this item be forwarded to the Planning
Board far decision and recommendation by February 5, 2002 and returned back to the Board of County
Commissioners no later than February 12, 2002.
Questions from Board of County Commissioners
Commissioner Gordon pointed out that this is an existing development and the house
has been there a long time and the walkway is very close to the existing house. She feels that there
should be some consideration given to the fact that the house has been there a long time and the use
already exists. She said that there would be a disruption if the pedestrian walkway were added as
proposed.
Public Comment
Jim Boericke, 153 West Margaret Lane, spoke in support of Reba and Rases and said
that this is truly a business that should be encouraged. This is a unique and wonderful place. It is an
asset to the County. He feels that this type of business fits really well in an AR zoning environment.
There is law traffic volume, na noise, no smells and it is a type of business that fits in this kind of
neighborhood. He said that as Orange County is striving to preserve open space and the appearance of
open space, this kind of business in this setting meets the requirement by providing a viable, economical
alternative that preserves open space. He said that this establishment is really an asset that we should
strive to maintain.
Laura Baldwin presented pictures of her establishment. She said that her business is an
unusual business. The business is at a private home which was a farm. She wanted to keep her land as
it was because she is not a farmer. They want Reba and Roses to remain true to the county and
environment and still be allowed to support a viable business. They have grown to 25 employees aver
the last six years. They sell everything from art from local artists and international artists to plants that
are grown on the property and plants that are nat. She understands that there are boxes (categories)
that they must fit into, but Reba and Roses does not fit into any of the County's boxes. The property is
actually split into 2 parcels. Reba and Roses sits on the 40 acres and her home sits on the 16 acres.
This is not a normal development or business. They need the flexibility to grow. Coming to the Board
every six years for renewal and approval to grow puts a damper on a small business that struggles every
day. She is asking the County Commissioners to think of a new category to put them into so they can
grow and so that they will know what they can do. She is against the public walkway because of privacy
and security issues.
Commissioner Brawn made reference to the 40 acres and asked if it is in use value
program and Laura Baldwin did not know. Commissioner Brown said that you could build farm structures
using the bona fide farming designation.
Geoffrey Gledhill said that the use value taxation program does not mean that structures
are not under the zoning requirements or the building permit requirements. They are not related.
Building requirements for bona fide farms are different but not because of the use value tax program.
There are some farm buildings that can be built without permits, but not all farm buildings. The use value
relates to the activity you use the property for and how much money you make from the activity. It has
nothing to do with the buildings that are located on the property.
Commissioner Carey clarified that the time limit for a Special Use Permit is six years and
Craig Benedict said that this applies to all class A, historic property, non-residential uses.
Commissioner Gordon said that because of the short timeframe for this Special Use
Permit it is important to follow through on this renewal. However, she is interested in finding another
category for Reba and Roses to fit.
Craig Benedict said that he agrees there is a need to create a category that would better
fit Reba and Roses' situation.
Commissioner Gordon feels that there should be different requirements or built in
considerations for a Special Use Permit for something that already exists.
Jaki Shelton Green spoke on behalf of Reba and Roses. She feels that she is one of the
largest consumers of Reba and Roses. She read a prepared statement. She lives in Orange County,
but has a Mebane address. She lives closer to three large chain garden centers, but her choice of
garden centers has been Reba and Rases. She said that the philosophy of Reba and Rases as
translated to her has been one of collaboration. She said that Orange County was very blessed to have
a community-based modeled business that tends to operate out of its relationship to its consumers, not
only for gain, but also for sustenance. She asked the County Commissioners to support and encourage
venues like Reba and Roses by modifying processes that are restrictive and punitive.
Chair Halkiotis observed that because of field trips made by students to Reba and Roses
by some agricultural and horticultural classes at Orange High School, female enrollment has increased
dramatically in these types of classes that have welding. These students are making garden sculptures
and selling them.
Annie Hassell said that she has been in Hillsborough for 2 ~/ years and has had a lot of
dealings with Reba and Roses. She thinks that this gives Orange County an opportunity to support small
businesses because it is an unusual business and is giving a great deal to the community.
Commissioner Jacobs suggested that Laura Baldwin serve on the Economic
Development Commission because this task force needs women and small business owners.
Commissioner Brown suggested moving ahead on Commissioner Cordon's suggestion
to come up with some creative response to this particular situation. Craig Benedict said that staff could
do something independent of this and work on a new category.
John Link volunteered the Economic Development staff to work with Planning staff to
move expeditiously on this.
Geoffrey Gledhill said if the County Commissioners change the regulations so that a
special use permit is not required for Reba and Roses, then Reba and Roses would be able to operate
under that use.
A motion was made by Commissioner Gordon, seconded by Commissioner Carey to
refer the special use permit renewal to the Planning Board far a recommendation to be returned to the
Board of County Commissioners no later than February 12, 2002.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
A motion was made by Commissioner Carey, seconded by Commissioner Jacobs to
close the public hearing.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
ORANGE COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
AND
ORANGE COUNTY PLANNING BOARD
JOINT WORK SESSION
A. Presentation by the Plannina Department on Goals for Growth and Discussion
The Planning Department made a presentation an goals for growth followed by a discussion.
The PowerPoint presentation is incorporated herein by reference.
Craig Benedict made the following quote about planning:
"The role we have created today as a result of our thinking thus far has problems which cannot
be solved by thinking the way we thought when we created them." - Einstein
The purpose of this presentation is to discuss the process far amending the comprehensive
plan to support the goals of the Orange County Board of Commissioners. Development is inevitable in
Orange County, so there much be a plan far this growth.
The six principles of growth management include harmony with nature, livable built
environments, place-based economy, equitable distribution of resources and services, properly mitigated
impacts, and responsible regionalism.
The goals of quality growth in Orange County are environmental conservation (air pollution
reduction, protection of natural resources, open space and wildlife corridor establishment, storm water
management, and watershed protection}; economic prosperity (business development, efficiency of
public services, farmland preservation, safeguarding of property values, and tax conservation}; and
community character (equitable distribution of growth induced benefits, greater regional coordination,
historic preservation, rural lifestyle maintenance, traffic and automobile dependence reduction}. He
elaborated an each aspect of the goals of quality growth.
The next steps include the creation of comprehensive plan elements {land use, transportation,
and housing}; objectives; supporting policies and choices, and implementation tools. The staff will be
conferring with the County Commissioners and other boards for recommendations in the future.
Craig Benedict distributed a survey and explained the details.
Several clarifying questions were answered satisfactorily by Craig Benedict.
ADJOURNMENT
Chair Halkiotis adjourned the meeting. The next meeting will be held on Thursday, November
29, 2001 at 6:00 p.m. in the meeting roam of the Government Service Center in Hillsborough, North
Carolina.
Stephen H. Halkiotis, Chair
Beverly A. Blythe, CMC