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ORANGE COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
WORK SESSION
March 13, 2001
The Orange County Board of Commissioners met on Tuesday, March 13, 2001 at 7:30 p.m. at
the Government Services Center in Hillsborough, North Carolina.
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Chair Stephen H. Halkiatis and Commissianers
Moses Carey, Jr. Alice Gordon, and Barry Jacobs
COUNTY COMMISSIONER ABSENT: Margaret Brown
COUNTY ATTORNEY PRESENT: Geoffrey Gledhill
COUNTY STAFF PRESENT: County Manager John M. Link, Jr., Assistant Caunty Manager
Rod Visser and Clerk to the Board Beverly A. Blythe (All other staff members will be identified
appropriately below)
NOTE: ALL DOCUMENTS REFERRED TO IN THESE MINUTES ARE IN THE
PERMANENT AGENDA FILE IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE. ALL
RECORDINGS OF THE MEETING WILL BE KEPT FOR 5 YEARS.
1. Leaislative Matters - Huntina Resolution
Chair Halkiotis said that the purpose of this resolution was to seek authorization from the State
legislature to authorize Orange County to regulate the use of alcohol and other impairing substances
while hunting with firearms, and to prohibit hunting near government buildings in Orange County,
primarily schools. The second piece of the resolution is to empower the Sheriff with the necessary
tools to deal with negligence. Once the authorization for an ordinance is given to Orange Caunty,
there will be meetings with the Hunting Committee, Chief District Court Judge, and the District
Attorney to have an understanding that there will be no tolerance for anyone hunting with a firearm
that is impaired by alcohol or drugs.
County Attorney Geoffrey Gledhill said that this enabling legislation would allow the County to
have an ordinance that will have zero tolerance for drinking and hunting with a rifle. Alco-sensors
will be used to test any passible offenders.
Commissioner Carey verified that the reason the Board was considering this tonight was that
the legislative delegation asked the Board to take formal action.
Chair Halkiotis asked Geoffrey Gledhill if this item would be part of a public hearing on the next
agenda and Geoffrey Gledhill said that the hunters would have the opportunity to speak tonight and
that would suffice.
Chair Halkiotis asked for a list of the members of the Hunting Committee that attended the
three meetings.
At this time Kenny Ray came forward and discussed the resolution. He said that the Hunting
Committee has been meeting in the last month and has heard some concerns from citizens about
hunters shooting around government buildings and using alcohol while hunting. He said that the
Hunting Committee has supported the idea of a County ordinance. He said that the wildlife
enforcement officers would have to define "an act of hunting." He added that there were not that
many instances of citizens that have a problem with hunting issues.
A motion was made by Commissioner Carey, seconded by Commissioner Jacobs to approve
and authorize the Chair to sign the Hunting Resolution as stated below and send it to the Legislative
Delegation.
RESOLUTION REGARDING LEGISLATIVE MATTER
Be it resolved by the Board of County Commissioners of Orange County that the board hereby
requests the Senators and Representatives representing Orange County to introduce and support
the following legislative matter:
AN ACT TO AUTHORIZE ORANGE COUNTY TO REGULATE THE USE OF ALCOHOL AND
OTHER IMPAIRING SUBSTANCES WHILE HUNTING WITH FIREARMS AND TO PROHIBIT
HUNTING NEAR GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS IN ORANGE COUNTY. Exhibit A.
EXHIBIT A
A BILL TO E ENTITLED AN ACT TO AUTHORIZE ORANGE COUNTY TO REGULATE THE USE
OF ALCOHOL AND OTHER IMPAIRING SUBSTANCES WHILE HUNTING WITH FIREARMS AND
TO PROHIBIT HUNTING NEAR GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS IN ORANGE COUNTY
The General Assembly of North Carolina enacts
Section 1. The Board of Commissioners of Orange county is hereby authorized to regulate, control,
restrict, and prohibit hunting with firearms while the hunter is under the influence of alcohol or other
impairing substances of every kind, nature, make, and description and to regulate, control, restrict,
and prohibit hunting with firearms while the hunter has any alcohol concentration as measured by an
alcosensor.
Section 2. The Board of Commissioners of Orange County is hereby authorized to regulate, control,
restrict, and prohibit hunting within 150 yards of any federal, State, or local government building,
including those owned or leased by Boards of Education.
Section 3. Any person violating any Orange County ordinance, enacted under authority of Sections
1 and 2 of this Act, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, and upon conviction shall be fined or
imprisoned as provided in N.C.G.S. 14-4 ("Violation of local ordinance misdemeanor").
Section 4. This Act applies to the unincorporated areas of Orange County
Section 5. This Act is effective when it becomes law.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
2. Capital Needs Advisory Task Force
Chair Halkiotis said that there would be a meeting tomorrow night at 5:30 p.m. of the Capital
Needs Advisory Task Force at Stanback Middle School Media Center. He also said that there
should be some direction from the Board of County Commissioners to the task force. Both he and
Assistant County Manager Rod Visser felt that the Board of County Commissioners should appoint a
chair and a co-chair for the Capital Needs Advisory Task Force tonight.
Cammissianer Gordon nominated Judy Margolis and Keith Cook.
Commissioner Jacobs nominated Lisa Stuckey and Leo Allison.
Chair Halkiotis said that he has a real problem with the appointment of a chair that is an
elected official. There are elected officials an the Capital Needs Advisory Task Force and he would
have a problem with one of them being appointed aschair or co-chair. He said that he feels that this
committee should be citizen-driven, and that the Board of County Commissioners should be in an
observer role. He said that all he plans to do is to be an observer this time around. Commissioner
Carey shared this concern.
A motion was made by Commissioner Jacobs, seconded by Commissioner Gordon to appoint
Lisa Stuckey as Chair of the Capital Needs Advisory Task Force, and Leo Allison as Co- chair.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
Commissioner Jacobs made some corrections to the list of members of the Capital Needs
Advisory Task Farce, and these were noted by the staff.
Commissioner Gordon told the group that Ms. Mariah McPherson, who is a member of the
Capital Needs Advisory Task Force, had a stroke several days ago.
A note will be sent to Ms. McPherson from the Board of County Commissioners.
3. Review Remainder of BQCC Goals and Possible Schedule far Future Adoption of
Goals
a. Joint Master Recreation and Parks Plan
Environment and Resource Conservation Director David Stancil and Orange County
Recreation and Parks Director Bob Jones sat down at the table with the Commissioners to discuss
this subject.
Commissioner Gordon made reference to page seven, "Proposed Intergovernmental
Parks Work Group develops parameters for standards" and asked if this had been finalized. David
Stancil said that this was likely going to be moved to October 2001.
Commissioner Gordon made reference to page eight, the last task, "Coordinate a
recommendation for payment toward recreation facilities, including the evaluation of impact fees and
alternative revenue sources," and said that she would like for this to go to public hearing in May
because the County is basically losing money on this. Bob Jones said that the staff was considering
using a consultant to expedite this quickly.
Commissioner Jacobs supports moving this forward, but he thinks that May is very
optimistic.
John Link suggested that we pursue, as Orange County, a very solid approach to the
fees, carry it to public hearing, and encourage the other jurisdictions to follow the County's lead. He
said that trying to get all jurisdictions on board between now and May would be problematic in
regards to time.
Commissioner Carey asked about the plans for working with OWASA to develop plans
for mitigation lands. David Stancil said that this was in the Lands Legacy program in the annual
action plan and that there have been discussions. Bob Jones said that OWASA was participating in
the Intergovernmental Parks Wark Group.
Commissioner Carey said the plans with OWASA should be referenced somewhere in
the goals so that it does not get lost.
Commissioner Jacobs said that most of the tasks have been completed and the goal
should be revised to say, "Implement joint approaches to recreation and parks," {i.e., coordinating
impact fees with jurisdictions, working with OWASA, integrating soccer efforts, etc.).
Commissioner Gordan said that this revised goal could be addressed in the next cycle.
The staff will develop a goal that looks more into the future and bring it forward with the
next set of goals.
Chair Halkiotis said that it would be helpful to the Board of County Commissioners to
have periodic progress reports of these various committees. He would prefer it to be paperless also.
John Link would like to work on some kind of electronic triggering process where an
update is sent to the Commissioners every two months.
b. Historic Preservation
David Stancil handed out the draft document, "Heritage Scenic Corridors: A Proposal to
Retain Orange County's Rural Character and Scenic Vistas."
Commissioner Jacobs said that he went to a Historic Preservation Commission meeting
and a concept was brought up about heritage corridors and he asked David Stancil to bring a brief
abstract for the Board to look at.
David Stancil said that the Historic Preservation Commission has not even talked about
this document. He said that this proposal would be something in the middle between a National
Register nomination and a zoning overlay approach. He further explained that as the Historic
Preservation Commission was struggling with haw to think through the St. Mary's Road study, this
document was a way to help that process.
Commissioner Jacobs suggested seeing how this coordinates with our bike plan.
David Stancil said that there might be an opportunity to pursue donation of or purchase
conservation easements for scenic or heritage areas. He reiterated that this is very early in the
discussion.
The staff will add something in the goals to reflect that the Historic Preservation
Commission will pursue developing a heritagelscenic corridors approach.
c. Lands Legacy Program
David Stancil said that this goal was ongoing and would not change from year to year.
He pointed out something new in objective three where some language was added in terms of
looking long-term at proportional acquisitions of lands legacy.
Commissioner Gordon asked about the Land Conservation Alliance on page one. David
Stancil said that this was something that was suggested in the adopted Lands Legacy program in
April. The Land Conservation Alliance is a biannual meeting of all the staffs involved in land
conservation.
Commissioner Gordon said she wants to think about the last task in objective three some
mare. She wants to think about what measurement to use in determining how funds would be
allocated to the different areas in the County. She said we have to measure it and we have to
demonstrate it and it is very susceptible to the type of district that is measured.
Commissioner Jacobs said he agrees that there will be some difficulty in measurement,
but there should be a basic standard. He thinks it is important to reiterate that eventually the
distributions will be evened out over the jurisdictions.
Commissioner Gordon would like to think more about how to measure. She suggested
that this be deferred until March 29th. She said that this will came up in the bond discussion and the
details should be specified.
John Link said that the funds would be proportionally distributed according to population.
He does not think we can get into a position where we promise so many acres per jurisdiction. He
thinks it is a general guideline and not a direct measurement.
Commissioner Jacobs wants to incorporate Commissioner Gordan's paint about "active
recreation ".
d. Natural Resources
David Stancil said that the Commission for the Environment met last night and has
asked to modify the timetable far same of the tasks.
Commissioner Jacobs asked about including something on forestry. David Stancil said
that there is something on page nine, in the second milestone.
Commissioner Jacobs said that he would like to add language about the pilot project,
such as, "Improve coordination of forestry practices with County government." He would also like to
add an objective about getting legislative authority.
Commissioner Gordon asked about the State of the Environment Report related to the
legislative report. She would like the timeline for the reports to be rearranged so that they coincide.
e. Water Resource Quantity and Quality
David Stancil said that there was some overlap with the previous Natural Resources goal
in that the Water Resources Committee is making its final report towards the end of this month. He
said that this goal would be included in the Natural Resources goal in future years, and this reflects
the wrap-up of the two projects.
f. Watershed Protection
David Stancil summarized the objectives of this goal.
Commissioner Carey asked if there was a plan to present a report to the Board of County
Commissioners. Chair Halkiotis asked for a presentation as well.
g, Air Quality Goal (Prapasedl
David Stancil made reference to enforcing statutes and said that he has tried to collapse
all of these issues into one goal.
Chair Halkiotis asked about open burning being allowed in Orange County. He asked
David Stancil to explore the issue of the air quality zone that Orange County is in.
Commissioner Carey commented that this air quality issue will probably get worse
because of what the Environmental Protection Agency will be doing and what the President allows.
h. Solid Waste Management Organization, Facilities and Services
Solid Waste Director Gayle Wilson came to the table to discuss this with the Board of
County Commissioners.
Chair Halkiotis asked if the water line had been laid in the Rogers Road neighborhood.
Rod Visser spoke about this issue and explained what has been done in the Rogers
Road neighborhood.
Chair Halkiotis said that it was very important to keep the Board of County
Commissioners updated so that confidence would not be eroded among the Rogers Road
neighbors.
Gayle Wilson said that most of the easements have been obtained.
Commissioner Carey asked about recycling and Gayle Wilson answered satisfactorily.
Commissioner Jacobs spoke about going to the Whitted Center and that he noticed that
deconstruction had started across the street.
Rod Visser spoke about knocking the building dawn and said that one of the things that is
most appealing is that a video will be done to show the benefits of deconstruction.
Chair Halkiotis said that at the next I & E committee meeting there will be a presentation
of the deconstruction showing how this process saved the County $25,000.
Commissioner Jacobs said that this is very innovative for North Carolina and that there is
an incentive to do deconstruction as opposed to demolition.
4. Affordable Housing Task Force Preliminary Report
Present from the Commissioners' Affordable Housing Task Force was Mr. Jack Chestnut,
Ms. Nancy Milio, and Mr. Robert Dowling.
Nancy Milio came forward to speak about the Commissioners' Affordable Housing Task
Farce report. She spoke about the housing summit that was held one year ago. She described the
work of the Commissioners' Affordable Housing Task Farce. She spoke about the reasons that
more affordable housing would be needed in the future. She said that we could only anticipate a
very great housing problem for people who want to live and work in the County. She summarized
the recommendations of the task force.
Commissioner Gordon asked what would be done to make this report final. Commissioner
Jacobs said that the group would take into consideration the Board of County Commissioners'
comments.
Commissioner Gordon asked if this would go to the band committee {i.e., Capital Needs
Advisory Task Force) and John Link said yes. He added that the Capital Needs Advisory Task
Force would get cone-page summary tomorrow at their meeting.
Commissioner Gordon would like to see the one-page summary that is going to the Capital
Needs Advisory Task Force tomorrow.
Commissioner Gordon mentioned that Commissioner Brown really wanted to be here for this
report tonight. Chair Halkiotis said that originally she had said that she had na problem with this
report being given tonight. Commissioner Jacobs explained further that the whole time frame was
arranged around her schedule.
The Manager said that the information would be ready in the morning and faxed to the
Commissioners.
Rod Visser spoke about the materials that will be presented tomorrow evening at the Capital
Needs Advisory Task Force meeting. He said that that Manager's office would do whatever is
needed to keep the Board of County Commissioners informed.
Chair Halkiotis said that after each meeting of a task force a one-page summary needs to ga
out to the Board of County Commissioners of what happened.
Chair Halkiotis said that it would be interesting to see a summary of what is happening with
affordable hauling in other parts of the country. Commissioner Jacobs said that Triangle J Council
of Governments could probably provide this.
Commissioner Jacobs made reference to the HUT, {Housing /UNC Task Farce), and said
that the idea was that the mayors would get together a few times and then meet with the University
officials about affordable housing in Orange County.
Commissioner Jacobs spoke about the fact that Commissioner Brown feels that we should
have some kind of RFP process (he referred to page 56}.
Commissioner Jacobs spoke about weighting the formula. Commissioner Carey said that
maybe we should take this particular piece out of this for more consideration because the weighting
could change.
Commissioner Carey made reference to number seven and haw to keep affordable housing
affordable.
Commissioner Gordon spoke about the difference between the mobile home parks within the
towns and outside the towns. She said that you could infer that probably affordable housing is more
of a problem in Carrbaro and Chapel Hill than it is in the unincorporated portions of the County. She
envisioned it more as collaboration between the cities and the County and the University. She
noticed that the tone of the report focuses more on the County as being the responsible one rather
than the collaboration between the cities and the County.
Chair Halkiotis asked if the towns were open to the County taking the lead in the affordable
housing issue. Commissioner Jacobs said that the towns were open to the County taking the lead,
but were also doing their awn thing with affordable housing.
Commissioner Carey said that he thinks we can count on the towns to encourage the County
to take the lead and to even expect the County to finance mast or all of it. He does not think that we
should let what the towns do influence what the County does. He does support collaboration
between the County and the Towns.
Commissioner Jacobs wants a brief presentation on this report at the meeting next week with
Hillsborough so that they know what the County is doing with affordable housing and how
Hillsborough can work with the County.
Robert Dowling made reference to inclusionary zoning and said that there is a sense that this
should be done by all the local jurisdictions. He spoke about how Chapel Hill is very aggressive in
enforcing the policy that any rezoning to increase density must include 15°~ affordable units. He
said that there was a lot to be done about education and the "not in my backyard" attitude.
Commissioner Gordon said that the money has to come from other places than just the
County. She feels that the towns need to take some responsibility far funding affordable housing.
She sees it as a shared issue between the towns and the County.
Commissioner Jacobs suggested that Commissioner Gordon ga to the next task force
meeting instead of him. Commissioner Gordon said that she did not want to go if he had been
already attending. She will send her comments with Commissioner Brown.
Chair Halkiotis made reference to the second task force, Housing/UNC Task Force and said
that Commissioner Jacobs would be representing the Chair since Commissioner Jacobs has been
working with the Commissioners' Affordable Housing Task Force.
John Link said that affordable housing could be brought to the CCC {Coordination and
Consultation Committee) because the UNC Chancellor would be in attendance.
Commissioner Jacobs said that Commissioner Brawn would also be attending the HUT
meetings.
5. NCDOT Road Resurfacing Priorities
Karen Lincoln of the Orange County Planning Department and County Engineer Paul
Thames came to the table to speak on this topic.
Chair Halkiotis said this is the first time that the NCDOT has asked the County to give
suggestions of roads that need to be resurfaced.
Karen Lincoln also affirmed that this is the first time the NCDOT has asked the County for
input. The recommendations will be addressed in the summer of 2002 resurfacing program. She
showed the Commissioners on a map all of the roads in the County that were in need of resurfacing.
She said that EMS and the Sheriffs Department were asked to help identify the roads. EMS had no
comments and the report from the Sheriffs Department has not been received.
Chair Halkiotis said that he would call the Sheriff tomorrow and ask him about any additional
roads that need resurfacing.
Commissioner Jacobs suggested asking the postal carriers about roads.
Chair Halkiotis gave 43 letters from citizens to John Link in reference to the tax revaluation in
Carolina Springs. He said that the citizens were saying that because of the increase in the value of
that property, their monthly rents are going to go up $57 a month.
ADJOURNMENT
With no further items for the County Commissioners to discuss, it was decided by consensus to
adjourn the meeting at 9:53 p.m. The next meeting on the calendar will be held next Tuesday,
March 20 at 5:30 p.m. at the Government Services Center in Hillsborough, North Carolina.
Stephen H. Halkiotis, Chair
Beverly A. Blythe, CMC