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ORANGE COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
AND
ORANGE COUNTY PLANNING BOARD
QUARTERLY PUBLIC HEARING
NOVEMBER 27, 2000
The Orange County Board of Commissioners met with the Orange County Planning Board
for a quarterly public hearing on Monday, November 27, 2000 at 7:30 p.m. in the F. Gordan Battle
Courtroom in Hillsborough, North Carolina.
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Chair Moses Carey, Jr., and Commissioners
Margaret W. Brown, Alice M. Gordon, Barry Jacobs, and Stephen H. Halkiotis
COUNTY ATTORNEY PRESENT: Geoffrey Gledhill
COUNTY STAFF PRESENT: County Manager John M. Link, Jr., Assistant County Manager
Rod Visser and Clerk to the Board Beverly A. Blythe (All other staff members will be identified
appropriately below)
PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT: Barry Katz, Karen Barrows, Vice-Chair Howard
McAdams, Nicole Gooding-Ray, Crauford D. Goodwin, Rachel Preston, and Robert Strayhorn
NOTE: ALL DOCUMENTS REFERRED TO IN THESE MINUTES ARE IN THE PERMANENT
AGENDA FILE IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE. ALL RECORDINGS OF THE MEETING
WILL BE KEPT FOR 5 YEARS.
A. OPENING REMARKS FROM THE CHAIR
Chair Carey said that he would serve as Chair for the first two items on the agenda and that
the Vice-Chair of the Planning Board, Howard McAdams, would serve as Chair for the third item on
the agenda. All of the items were presented by Orange County Planning Director Craig Benedict.
Chair Carey explained the procedure for the items - a presentation by the Planning Director,
comments and questions from the Board of Commissioners and the Planning Board, a
presentation by the applicant, comments or questions from citizens, and a motion to act on the
item. He explained that the process for receiving comments on a special use permit was different
in that it is an evidentiary hearing, where evidence is heard.
B. PUBLIC CHARGE
Chair Carey read the public charge.
C. PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
1. AMERICAN STONE COMPANY AND OWASA PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND
CLASS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR EXTRACTION OF EARTH
PRODUCTSIRESERVOIR
The following people were sworn in for this item: Paxton Badham, Peter Gordon,
Mike Horn, John Richards, Vic Knight, Elliot Cramer, Erwin Danziger, Montell Irvin, David B,
William Lyke, Peter Malin, Craig Benedict, Jennie Foushee, Louise Parrish, Melvin Parrish, and C.
M. Williams.
Orange County Planning Director Craig Benedict explained this item. He said that it
was atwo-part public hearing. The first part is a legislative decision to rezone property from Rural
Buffer to Planned Development Industrial 1 Category, also known as PD-1. The second part is
consideration of a Class A Special Use Permit. The two requests are submitted concurrently. He
said that this area was within the joint planning area of Carrboro, Orange County, and Chapel Hill.
From 1989 to 2000 the land use plan amendment process has been in the works. As of this
summer, all of the jurisdictions have now approved the amendment for the joint planning area to
allow a use such as this. After those approvals, the land use plan was changed to a category
where this rezoning could come forward to be consistent. After the joint planning area plan was
modified, the Orange County land use plan was modified by the County Commissioners to be
consistent. Regarding the land use plan, the issue was whether or not the extraction of earth
products was appropriate for the area. All three jurisdictions agreed that it was appropriate. The
issue now is how the uses will be arranged within the land use plan, what the setbacks will be, and
the conduct of the operation. The legislative part of the rezoning further explains haw the use will
be conducted. All of the public comment heard tonight, verbal and written, will be put together and
digested prior to it going to the Planning Board.
Craig Benedict made a presentation on the rezoning development plan. The use
can be restricted in this area to just the extraction of earth products in certain modules on the
property. Other parts of the rezoning process involve a certificate of mailing, where notices are
sent to residents within 500 feet from the quarry. This is the requirement according to the existing
ordinance. If there is someone who did not get a mailing, they will have an opportunity to submit
some information before the Planning Board hearing. The staff is awaiting more information on the
environmental impact statement. Information has been received from the Sheriffs office and
information was received today from NCDOT speaking to the intersection of the future Bethel
Hickory Grove Church Road and NC 54, where turn lanes are requested. He reiterated that the
rezoning process was a legislative decision.
Craig Benedict continued the presentation and spoke about the Class A Special Use
Permit. The special use permit will go to the Planning Board and then back to the Board of County
Commissioners. He described the conditions that have been put forward on this project. There
can still be some modifications to the conditions. These conditions begin on page two of the
agenda abstract, which is incorporated herein by reference. The staff recommends that condition
#16 be deleted at this time because it is in conflict with the general rules for the rural buffer.
Condition #54 was added to include the recommended left turn lanes into the site and the
development of the road to DOT standards. The Planning staff recommends that the Board of
County Commissioners and the Planning Board hear public testimony from proponents and
opponents. The staff also recommends that the Board of County Commissioners refer this item at
the end of the public hearing to the Planning Board for a recommendation to be returned back to
the Board of County Commissioners no sooner than February 20, 2001.
Questions by Board of County Commissioners and Planning Board
Commissioner Brawn asked about the first 13 recommendations and if they were
old. Craig Benedict said that the 13 recommendations were in effect at this time. The 13
recommendations will be incorporated into the other 53 conditions.
Commissioner Brown made reference to condition #8 and the 50-foot buffer along
Phil's Creek. She asked about the protection for a watershed or creek. Craig Benedict said that
the existing Phil's Creek was approximately 50 feet from the top of the bank to the existing quarry.
There would be no way to achieve a wider buffer in that area. The 50 feet is reasonable because
there is a pit next to it.
Commissioner Jacobs asked about condition #15 and wells failing for any reason
other than as the demonstrable result of American Stone Company's mine operations. He asked
for a specific definition of the term "demonstrable result". He made reference to condition #17 and
documenting last effects on structures and asked if this would include a photographic record.
Regarding condition #23 and moving the stone crusher, he said that this was a concern that was
mentioned specifically by Carrboro. He would like the staff to do more of an analysis of the pros
and cons and talk to American Stone Company. Regarding condition #28, he would like to know
from the County Attorney about the law for covered loads and the ability of the Sheriff to enforce
covered loads. He made reference to the conditions about the road - 45, 46, 5Q, 51, 52, and 54 -
and the letter from Kimley-Horn saying that bike lanes should not be put in. He is not satisfied with
leaving this with NCDOT. He asked that the County consider working with other traffic engineers in
getting a comprehensive analysis. He does not think that NCDOT is very interested in traffic-
calming devices, but Orange County is. He would like the staff to work on the mitigation fund that
OWASA may pay into if a certain well repair is necessary. He would like the staff to work an the
possibility of requiring that fund annually, regardless, which would be administered by the County
far mitigation purposes for the quarry operation and that OWASA would contribute to in the same
way that it contributes payment in lieu for fire services around the Cane Creek reservoir.
Commissioner Halkiotis made reference to condition #8 and said that he would like
information on how much of the area was affected by the 5Q-foot buffer. Regarding condition #18,
"American Stone Company shall attempt to notify by telephone," he said that this language was
loose. Regarding condition #21, he asked if a 2Q-foot high berm was high enough. Regarding
condition #23, with respect to the concerns of Carrboro, he would like to know how the staff came
up with seven years versus three. He would rather it be three years. He suspects that it is a
political issue. Regarding condition #28, he said that he, Commissioner Jacobs, and
Commissioner Brown visited the quarry several months ago and he said that 9$°~ of the trucks
going in to get rock have the necessary equipment to cover the loads but the drivers da not take
the time to flip the lever. He said that covered loads should be required.
Commissioner Gordon made reference to page 33, #4 and the joint planning area
land use plan that has been amended to expand the area designated for extractive use to include
certain parcels, which were purchased by OWASA on September 7, 2000. She asked if this made
any difference to the environmental impact. Craig Benedict pointed out the areas that OWASA had
recently acquired. He said that it did not make any difference with the environmental impact
statement.
Commissioner Jacobs made reference to condition #49, the biological assessment.
He asked who would pay for the consultant and what the purpose was of the survey. The
applicant will answer this question.
Chair Carey made reference to condition #15 and asked if the problems were going
to manifest themselves at the same time the mining ends. He asked if there should be an
opportunity for the residents to submit claims after the mining ends in 2Q30. He said that the timing
of the return of anything remaining in the fund should be reworked.
Applicant Comments
Peter Gordon, Chairman of the Board of Directors of OWASA, spoke about
OWASA's support of the quarry expansion. Far OWASA, the major issue is the water needs.
They have done a very extensive analysis of the projected water needs for their customers and
believe that their existing sources will take them through the year 2030, but at that point, they will
need an additional source of water. OWASA believes that using an expanded stone quarry to
capture the excess water from Cane Creek and University Lake is the best way to supply the
additional water needed. The bottom line for OWASA is water needs and water quality. He said
that OWASA has been part of the attempt to address ways in which the project can go forward in a
way that is the least disruptive possible to the surrounding community and most beneficial to the
surrounding area. He said that OWASA has now completed a comprehensive assessment of the
farmer Nello Teer asphalt plant, where there is some groundwater contamination from petroleum
hydrocarbons and trace amounts of chlorinated hydrocarbons. Reports on this assessment are
available. A detailed on-site inventory of the biological resources on the current site has also been
conducted. Also, OWASA has completed the purchase of the 1 QQ-acre plot from Mrs. Alice
Durham and is in the process of submitting to the County a draft conservation easement. This
means that when the mining is done, the land can never be used for anything but public water
supply and open space. In conclusion, he said that OWASA and various political bodies in Orange
County have worked hard on this project for many years because they believe that expanding the
stone quarry is the best thing to do for the overall community.
Paxton Badham spoke on behalf of American Stone Company. He described the
history of the site plan on a map. He made reference to the flaw of compensation and said that in
1990, American Stone Company re-executed a lease with the Durham family, which greatly
increased the minimum rental payments and the royalty payments, taking the lease to 2030. The
payments will continue to increase until 2030. The payments to the Durham family was incentive
for the Durham's to give the pit to OWASA at the end of the mining. In exchange, OWASA had
incentive to let American Stone Company mine the property free of charge. The plan is to relocate
State Road 1104 where it would intersect NC 54 and then to mine where ultimately the two pits will
be joined. In addition, American Stone Company is giving OWASA 25 acres of land free of charge
if the application is approved. He said that American Stone Company has been under a lot of
scrutiny because of the apposition by the neighbors. He said that throughout all of the
examination, no one has found anything that American Stone Company has done wrong. He said
that the current regulations were not completely clear. He spoke about the permits that American
Stone Company had obtained and said that the purpose of them was to protect the environment
and to protect people and structures in the area of and adjacent to the quarry operation. He said
that the conditions as presented by Craig Benedict were the reason that American Stone Company
thinks the application should be granted because it goes well beyond what the state and federal
permits require. He said that this was both the most extensive and expensive list of conditions that
he is aware of. He would like to have some further discussion about a few of the conditions. He
said that condition #29 seems to require American Stone Company to ensure that every truck has
a cover. He said that this would put them at a serious competitive disadvantage because the
trucks will go elsewhere. He said that ASC would support a countywide ordinance requiring all
material haulers to cover their loads. He made reference to condition #39 and said that the
concern was that if, at a later date, the County passed a different ordinance and then ASC was
required to comply with it, that might make the operation impossible. He made reference to
condition #47 and said that there could be a problem with the Type F buffer. Regarding bike lanes,
he said that it did not make much sense to put bike lanes in the area. He spoke about what would
happen if the special use permit were not granted. The existing special use permit has no
expiration date and ASC could be there a long time mining deeper. He introduced the experts that
would speak about the studies that they conducted. Mike Horn, with Kimley-Horn and Associates,
conducted a traffic analysis; Montell Irvin, with Ramey Kemp and Associates, conducted a noise
study; Peter Malin, with SONDI, conducted the blasting analysis; Vic Knight, with Chapel Hill
Appraisals and Consultants, conducted the property value analysis; William Lyke, with Skelly and
Loy, conducted the hydrogeology analysis; and John Richards, with Air Control Techniques,
conducted the air analysis.
Mike Horn, with Kimley-Horn and Associates, is a licensed engineer in North
Carolina and has practiced traffic engineering for the past 19 years. They were asked by American
Stone Company to review the proposal of the relocation of SR 1104, Bethel Hickory Grove Church
Road by approximately 2700 feet. This relocation takes the existing intersection of Bethel Hickory
Grove Church Road and moves it to NC 54. He has reviewed the relocation and has met with
NCDOT on site. NCDOT does concur with the relocation of the intersection with the stipulation as
proposed by the staff, which is the addition of left and right turn lanes. American Stone Company
has also agreed with the construction of both of the turn lanes.
Montell W. Irvin, a professional engineer registered in North Carolina, works with
Ramey Kemp and Associates. He has been practicing engineering for about 11 years. He said
that they were obtained by American Stone to do sound readings along the perimeter of the
property and to compare those readings to the current performance standards. He went to the
facility with a noise meter and conducted readings at several locations around the property. He
determined that all of the levels were below the 68 DBA performance standard. He reviewed the
mitigation offered by American Stone and feels that all of the measures should significantly reduce
the levels that are currently at the property at this time.
Peter Malin is a professor of Seismology in the Nicholas School of Environment at
Duke University and also holds a secondary appointment in the Department of Civil and
Environmental Engineering. He is President of a consulting firm called SONDI, which is
Seismology and Downhole Instrumentation. American Stone Company asked SONDI to conduct
two studies of vibration and quarry blast noise at the facility. He analyzed 632 blast data over the
course of the last 10 years to establish the levels of vibration typical to the quarry operation. In the
632 monitored blasts, none of the blasts have exceeded any of the limits set by the permit. The
statistics also show that there is a very small likelihood that random factors that are beyond the
control of the quarry operators might result in exceeding the permit. SONDI sees no reason why
the velocity ar air blast permit levels would be exceeded at the current level of operation of the
quarry.
Vic Knight, a resident of Orange County, has been doing appraisal work primarily in
Orange County for sixteen years. The report he distributed has to do with the potential impact of
the American Stone Company expansion on the properties in the surrounding neighborhood. The
information shows the immediate surrounding properties that would have access onto either NC 54
or onto Bethel Hickory Grove Church Road. The report concludes that the appreciation value of
the immediate surrounding neighborhood is significantly larger than the ones in the control
subdivisions -The Trails and Wildwood. This is due to the amount of new construction in the area.
The report concludes that there would be no negative impact from the proposed expansion of this
quarry on the surrounding neighborhood.
William Lyke is a Hydrogeologist with Skelly and Loy in Raleigh. He is a licensed
engineer and a licensed geologist in North Carolina. Skelly and Loy was asked to prepare a
hydrogeologic study for the quarry. He emphasized that the water table in the area was analyzed
to see if they could determine the distance from the quarry operation that is impacted by the
quarry. Based on the monitoring data, it appears that there could be up to a 500-foot distance from
the quarry wall where the water table could be lowered. At a distance of 400 to 500 feet from the
wall, there is a change in the water table of 10 feet or less. There is no documented evidence of a
greater incidence of reported well failure related to water quantity or quality issues in the area
around the quarry than there is across the entire County.
John Richards, President of Air Control Techniques, said that his company
specializes in air pollution control and air testing. He was retained to discuss the ambient air
impact of the American Stone Company facility. According to the report, the emissions of the
facility are quite low and have a very small community impact. They also conducted a number of
ambient crystalline silica tests to evaluate the upwind and downwind impact of stone crushing
plants and other types of plants, and they found that the ambient crystalline silica levels are very
similar to levels found in any part of the country.
Paxton Badham is an attorney who has worked with American Stone Company in
their application. He made reference to the document, "Findings of the Orange County Planning
Department", page 11, and talked about the location of the "other information."
Public Comment and Questions
Melvin Parrish said that he awns property, which adjoins the stone quarry. He is
very much against the stone quarry. He asked how old the standards were and said that maybe
they needed to be rewritten. He questioned the operating hours and said that it would affect the
quality of life of the neighbors because the operation continues until 7:00 p.m. Monday through
Saturday. He also questioned the final plan on the new road entering onto NC 54. He would like
to know how the new road would affect the neighbors. He asked who would get the royalties that
came out of Bethel Hickory Grove Church Road. He asked why a quarry was needed in this area.
He said that OWASA was basing it all on the water. He resents the fact that OWASA is trying to
build up the water supply but refuses to run water into his community because it is too expensive.
He said that the quarry has already polluted the land and he asked when that was going to be
cleaned up. He said that this has turned out to be a show from people that do not even live in
Orange County. He asked the Commissioners to reject the special use permit.
Jennie Foushee, resident of Parrish Road for 55 years, said that she was against
the expansion of the quarry. She has experienced the noise, the vibration, and the damages in the
area. She has replaced a window and drilled a well. She said that the community needed public
water and sewer. The community has damages associated with the quarry. She said that this was
all about water, but no one cares whether they have water or not. She said that the people in the
community could not afford to go to other areas.
Louise Parrish, who lives at 1401 Parrish Road, said that she listened to a lot of the
comments from the experts. She asked that the County Commissioners give the neighbors a fair
shake in this deal. She said that if the road was going to be changed, the extraction should be
divided between the neighbors of the adjoining community. Also, the community would really like
to have water and sewer. She asked the Commissioners to please do the right thing by the
citizens. She said that the community has only asked American Stone Company to repair the
damages they have caused to the local homes and wells.
Erwin Danziger and his family own property that adjoins the Parrish's land and has
awned it since the mid-60's. He said that he appreciated the fact that the public was able to speak
tonight. He read a prepared statement. He addressed the issue of noncompliance of American
Stone Company with regard to the statement made by Paxton Badham that no one had found any
noncompliance, he said that this was not a true statement. He said that the state had repeatedly
found noncompliance at American Stone Company. He said that ASC was limited to 325 pounds
per day in response to a violation. Related to air quality, he said that ASC used data given to them
by Martin Marietta for 1999. He objected to the model used because the TSP was significantly
lower in 1999 than in the previous three years. Also, the model was based on Greensboro where
there is less background noise than at Raleigh. He made reference to the statements made by Dr.
Malin from SONDI . He said that Dr. Malin was given the area that was not the area of the existing
quarry, but the area of the proposed quarry expansion. He said that the data was based on the
incorrect area. Secondly, Dr. Malin was not told what the Orange County 125 air blast limit was,
but was told to use the state standard of 128. He said that there was one instance where the limit
was exceeded with a blast of 130. He said that there were 12 instances where the blasts
exceeded 125, which is the County standard. He made reference to Paxton Badham's comment
about American Stone Company making improvements beyond what anyone else was doing. He
made reference to a quarry in Haw River that has automatic sprinklers to reduce the dust. He
thanked the Clerk's office for making sure that the Commissioners received all of his
correspondence. He made reference to the process and said that there were things in the agenda
packet that the public has never seen and therefore cannot respond to. He would like the process
to be changed so that the public could respond properly to issues. He said that he has been trying
to explain to the Board of County Commissioners for 10 years that the existing pit, when it is
finished mining, will hold three billion gallons of water, which is what OWASA is requesting. The
point is that there is not a need far the quarry expansion.
Mr. Danziger spoke about the process. He said that, for the most part, the
neighbors have not been asked to provide any history to Craig Benedict. He had hoped that Mr.
Benedict would have obtained input from people other than advocates for the quarry expansion.
He said that he prepared some written suggestions for Craig Benedict for various proposed
changes to the County Zoning Ordinance and the Special Use Process. The changes were
prepared as a result of John Link's letter to him of April 16, 1997. He also wrote a letter to Chair
Carey with no response. He said that there was no identification of the applicant. The application
is signed by Mr. Moe, President of American Stone Company, but the supporting documents are
from Martin Marietta, a separate corporate entity. He said that the State of North Carolina issues
all of its permits to Martin Marietta and not to American Stone Company. He is also disappointed
that Dr. Cramer's and his emails to Craig Benedict have not been answered. He also would have
liked to be present at the required pre-application conference. He spoke about haw the application
was not complete in all respects. He said that the memo of November 9, 2000 from Robert Davis
entitled "Executive Summary" was not his work, but simply aword-for-word copy of various
paragraphs of the "Supplement to the EIS" from OWASA. It seems that his written comments were
ignored and that Mr. Davis' memo was prepared before the deadline far comments from the public
even arrived. He said that this was not a fair process.
Mr. Danziger continued by speaking about the mitigation measures. He said that
the neighbors had made it clear tonight that no expansion and no mitigation was preferred to
expansion with mitigation. Therefore, there are no valid reasons for approving the rezoning or this
SUP. He said that if the Board of County Commissioners chose to approve it anyway, then it
would be for reasons known only to the Board and not yet made public. He said that the Planning
Department changed same of the wording of the mitigation measures to favor the applicants. The
wording used in the present mitigation measures was not the same wording that was used in the
memorandum of agreement. He recommends an appointment of one or more members of the
County Commissioners, one Planning Board member, and himself to review the conditions far
proper wording. His final point was a series of eight questions that he hopes the County
Commissioners will review before issuing the SUP.
Elliot Cramer, a statistician for 40 years, said that one of OWASA's main argument
for quarry expansion was its claim that it could not acquire the current quarry except by eminent
domain at a cost of millions of dollars. He said that the day before the April 12th public hearing,
OWASA announced an agreement in principle to purchase the current quarry property. It was not
until September 7th, one week after the Carrboro vote, that the purchase was consummated. He
thinks that the delay was due to OWASA's wish to forestall a negative vote by the Town of
Carrboro. He has a copy of the contract between OWASA and the Durham's, and he said that
there was nothing in it to justify afive-month delay. He also made reference to the contract
between OWASA and American Stone Company, which significantly modifies the old four-party
agreement. He believes that both of these contracts should be part of the record. He said that
OWASA and American Stone Company have said that the current pit is 250 feet deep and will
have a depth of 350 feet if the application is approved, and will be over 500 feet if not approved.
He said that this contradicts information that was provided to the OWASA board on February 9,
2000. Using the 350-foot depth, he computed the capacity of OWASA's current quarries to be
about three billion gallons. The three billion gallons is identical to what OWASA's consultants have
said to be the capacity of the expanded quarry. He sees no justification far the expansion. He
asked that the County Commissioners reject this application. With regards to the future need for
water, he said that OWASA's consultants, in their technical memorandum, have stated that the
demand for water in 2050 will be 15.1 million gallons per day. This is the amount of water that
OWASA has without any quarry at all. He said that this makes the assumption, which OWASA has
conveniently chosen to ignore aver the past year, that all new housing will have federally mandated
law flow toilets and showerheads. He said that it is clear that there will be enough water to last
through 2090 and probably forever because build out in Chapel Hill is expected and there will be a
flattening of the growth. He said that Paxton Badham did misrepresent the size of the pit to
OWASA. He believes that OWASA has not made their decision on scientific realms, but on faulty
ideas that the community was growing exponentially.
Pastor C. M. Williams is the senior pastor at Hickory Grove Missionary Baptist
Church. He is a concerned citizen speaking for his 300 parishioners. The church is on Bethel
Hickory Grove Church Road. He has been there for three years and has incurred expenses at the
church for damages as a result of the quarry. He said that the burden was on the community -
structural damage, change for the community, accidents or death because of the changes in the
road, etc. He feels that the quality of life in the community is very important. He made reference to
the no fault well repair fund and he asked who would determine who gets this money. He is
concerned about all of the money that has already been spent to repair damages to wells. He is
concerned about the fund that will be established, whether it will be adequate, and who will handle
the fund. He feels that there is a right thing to do in being fair. It does not seem fair that American
Stone Company and OWASA are making money and that the residents are suffering. He said that
it does not seem fair that an African American community should withstand the burden of the
growth of Chapel Hill and Carrboro. He feels that the fair thing to do is to be sure that the residents
are compensated for water and sewer and compensated for past, present, and future damages.
He asked the Commissioners to be very fair and to da the right thing for the residents of the
Hickory Grove community.
Questions from members of the Board of County Commissioners and
Planning Board
Barry Katz, a Planning Board member, asked about the comment by Erwin Danziger
that the quarry exceeded the legal limits of the decibel levels. Montell Irvin said that the permit that
was supplied by American Stone Company indicated levels of 128 and 132. He said that no blasts
exceeded the 132 level, but that there was a blast that was 130.8.
Barry Katz asked about the 300-pound delay blast. Montell Irvin said that in no
circumstance was the vibration limit of ground motion exceeded in any of the blasts that were
recorded.
Barry Katz asked if the blasts were near the limit or not near the limit. Montell Irvin
said that at the site where they were recording, the blasts were well within the limits.
Barry Katz made reference to page 5, item 25 in the original agenda packet, which
indicated that 20 percent of the blasts could have a maximum of 450 pounds per delay. He was
wondering if these kinds of blasts would be routinely exceeding the limits. Montell Irvin said that
the blasts would be routinely exceeding the limits at the quarry boundaries.
Barry Katz asked a question of Vic Knight. He said that the neighbors of the
adjacent community alleged that Mr. Knight did not use any of the properties adjacent to the
quarry. Vic Knight said that the adjacent properties were listed in the report. Barry Katz asked if
the Parrish community was excluded from the report and Mr. Knight said no. He asked for a
clarification of the type of homes in the Greenfield community.
Melvin Parrish said that if the quarry were expanded, it would come closer to his
property and further away from the Greenfield community. The homes in the Greenfield
community are very different from the homes in the Parrish community.
Nicole Gooding-Ray, a Planning Board member, asked if the report was historical
information and Mr. Knight said that this was historical information including closed sales.
Melvin Parrish said that he has been left out of the report because he has not sold
his property. Vic Knight said that Mr. Parrish was included based on historical information. The
neighborhood has experienced a significant appreciation level. Many factors cause this to happen.
Barry Katz asked if the land would appreciate when the quarry ceased operation.
Vic Knight said that the property would continue to appreciate on the same level or more.
At this time, it was 10:30, the automatic adjournment time, and Chair Carey asked
the pleasure of the Board on the remainder of the meeting.
The Board agreed to finish item #2, Consideration of School Adequate Public
Facilities Ordinance, and to postpone item #3, Commercial/Industrial/EDD Subdivision
Amendment, to the EDD public hearing on December 12, 2000.
Barry Katz personally believes that the American Stone Company quarry is an
additional burden that the community puts up with and that the community does have a claim to
some compensation for losses in comparison to the gains that are made by other parties to this
discussion.
Nicole Gooding-Ray made reference to page 20 and asked if items 1, 2, and 3 have
been addressed. David B said that the entire presentation deals with all three findings.
A motion was made by Commissioner Gordon, seconded by Commissioner Jacobs
to refer the proposed Zoning Atlas Amendment and proposed Class A Special Use Permit to the
Planning Board for a recommendation to be returned to the Board of Commissioners no sooner
than February 20, 2001.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
2. CONSIDERATION OF SCHOOL ADEQUATE PUBLIC FACILITIES ORDINANCE
Craig Benedict said that this adequate public facilities ordinance only addresses the
schools. It has been put forth first as a memorandum of understanding, which gives generalities
about what the ordinance can do. Attached to the MOU is a "boilerplate" ordinance that would be
incorporated by all of the local jurisdictions within their regulations. The school boards would also
adopt similar policies. The public hearing addresses the Orange County portion of this
implementation process. He read the purpose statement of the SAPFO, which states that, "The
purpose of this ordinance is to ensure that, to the maximum extent practical, new residential
development will be approved only when it can be reasonably expected that adequate public
school facilities will be available to accommodate such new development." This ordinance is
intended to be a synchronization mechanism to find out what the projected growth rates are in the
residential community, what the capital improvement program has identified as needs, and to try
to match the two systems within both the school district and County government. Service levels
have been provided in this ordinance. An adequate level of service was determined by working
with the school districts and the towns. The elementary school level of service is 105°~, the
middle school level of service is 107%, and the high school level of service is 110°~. There are
exemptions in place within the ordinance for dormitory housing for university students and senior
citizen housing (elderly or adult care living facilities). Avery technical aspect of the ordinance has
to do with the applicability to previously approved projects and ones that are pending approval.
Subdivisions that have been approved in the past will not be subject to this ordinance, but they
can be considered. There would be two agreements for this to be effective. The first agreement
would need to be signed by Orange County School Board, Orange County and Hillsborough. The
second Agreement would need to be signed by Chapel Hill-Carrboro City School Board, Carrboro,
Orange County and Chapel Hill. The ordinance would be incorporated into a section of our land
development cads. Staff recommends that, after the public hearing tonight, this item be referred
to the Planning Board for a recommendation that would came back to the Board of County
Commissioners no sooner than the end of January.
Questions from Board of County Commissioners and Planning Board
Commissioner Jacobs asked how the level of services was determined. Craig
Benedict said that it was put together by the Schools and Land Use Council and a subgroup. The
idea was to not have more than two mobile classrooms at any one school.
Commissioner Jacobs asked about the exclusion of university housing with an
affordable housing element. Craig Benedict said that there would need to be more specificity in
the section about exclusions. There are exemptions in the code for what was originally called
"minimal impact."
County Attorney Geoffrey Gledhill said that the idea behind the exemptions is to
exclude housing that is not going to impact schools.
Commissioner Jacobs asked about exceptions for developers that donate land for
schools. Craig Benedict reiterated the statement in the ordinance that says, "In deciding whether
these findings can be made, the governing body shall consider the following among other relevant
factors." The exemption for donated land is just one factor and not a definite.
Geoffrey Gledhill said that the provision for donated land only applies to previously
approved projects and projects pending approval.
Public Comment
Three letters have been received which are herein made a part of these minutes by
reference. Janice Cenci of Chapel Hill faxed a letter dated November 27, 2000 stating that she is
in favor of the Schools Adequate Public Facilities Ordinance because it represents a move toward
proactive planning. She would like to see a moratorium on approval of major subdivisions until the
County has updated the Comprehensive Plan. She supports an ordinance for all public facilities,
not just schools.
Lucy Harber of Chapel Hill faxed a letter dated November 27, 2000 stating that she
is in favor of the Schools APFO. She supports the efforts to institute measures that will control the
type and rate of growth in the County. She also supports a moratorium on approval of future
developments until the County can update the Comprehensive Plan and update the demographic
projection template.
Maria Tadd of Chapel Hill faxed a letter dated November 27, 2000 stating that she is
in favor of the Schools APFO. She also supports a moratorium on approval of new developments
until the Comprehensive Plan is completed. She is concerned about the environmental impact of
the development in Orange County.
Nick Tennyson, Executive Vice President of the Hamebuilders Association of
Durham and Orange Counties, said that the concern that is uppermost is the skepticism about the
likelihood of public investment absent a crisis. He said that the APFO theory has to do with
anticipating the need, having a capital improvements plan, being willing to spend the money, and
making the public investment necessary to build the public facilities that it takes to keep up with the
growth and population that occurs. There is a question of how the population growth and how the
new structures really affect the long-term population of the schools. He said that it was
problematic to get the public pressure that it takes to make the investments to keep the system
rolling. The HBA has not been supportive of the Schools APFO concept. The other question that
tames up is about how this transition happens. The concept is that the owner of the properly is
the person whose land value ar opportunity to sell is regulated. He said that the Schools APFO
would farce more detail, more expensive planning upfront, and greater mitigation measures for
environmental concerns, all of which would lead to a larger scale project. The Homebuilders
Association has not taken a position toward this proposal.
Richard Cubic is a small builder and does mostly renovation work. He said that the
ripple affect of this ordinance could be catastrophic or minimal depending on how it is
administered. He does not like the fact that a school board could put a moratorium on building ar
on subdivisions. He does not think it is the school board's position to do this. He questioned how
long this ordinance would prolong the permit process.
Chair Carey asked Craig Benedict to clarify the application of the ordinance to
renovations and expansions to existing homes. Craig Benedict said that there would be no affect
an additions to homes.
Pam Alexander, co-owner of a subcontracting company and a property owner in
Orange County, said that she was against this ordinance. She is concerned about what the
Schools APFO would do to the property values. She said that the economy was geared towards
growth. She said that in order for the tax base to increase there would have to be an increase in
single family housing. She spoke about how the school systems get approval for construction and
then change the plans to accommodate less students. She said that her business would go under
if growth were stopped by this kind of ordinance. She would like more information on the
ordinance.
Keith Dixon said that it seems like there should be more communication between
the developers and the school systems versus the school systems just having the authority to say
no to development.
Dave Ferguson, landowner of a large farm, said that it bothers him that we are going
to limit the building in this County so that the tax burden falls on those who own land in the County.
He cautioned the Commissioners about putting the process into another regulatory board because
regulation of development was not the function of the school boards.
A motion was made by Commissioner Halkiatis, seconded by Commissioner Jacobs
to refer the School Adequate Public Facilities Ordinance to the Planning Board for review and
recommendation to the Board of County Commissioners no sooner than January 16, 2001.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
Commissioner Jacobs said that there was a courtesy review with Hillsborough on
developments in the EDD and the new entranceway district. This public hearing is tomorrow night,
November 28th. He requested that there be a report on this at the work session on November 30th
so that comments can be forwarded to the Hillsborough Planning Board and the Town Board.
ADJOURNMENT
A motion was made by Commissioner Halkiotis, seconded by Commissioner Jacobs
to adjourn the public hearing to December 12t" at the Southern Human Services Center in Chapel
Hill, North Carolina, to address Non-Residential Approval Procedure for Subdivision, Zoning, and
Economic Development Ordinance Amendments.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
Moses Carey, Jr., Chair
Beverly A. Blythe, CMC