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MINUTES
ORANGE COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
WORK SESSION
SEPTEMBER 14, 1999
The Orange County Board of Commissioners met on Tuesday, September 14,
1999 at 7:30 p.m. in the meeting room of the Government Services Center in
Hillsborough, North Carolina.
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Chair Alice M. Gordon and
Commissioners Margaret W. Brown, Moses Carey, Jr., Stephen H. Halkiotis and Barry
Jacobs
COUNTY ATTORNEY PRESENT: Geoffrey Gledhill
COUNTY STAFF PRESENT: County Manager John M. Link, Jr., Assistant
County Managers Rod Visser and Albert Kittrell, and Clerk to the Board Beverly A.
Blythe (All other staff members will be identified appropriately below)
NOTE: ALL DOCUMENTS REFERRED TO IN THESE MINUTES ARE IN THE
PERMANENT AGENDA FILE IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE. ALL
RECORDINGS OF THE MEETING WILL BE KEPT FOR 5 YEARS.
EMS Director Nick Waters gave an update on the planning initiatives for
Hurricane Floyd. He summarized a handout that indicated what had been done so far to
plan for Hurricane Floyd, such as conducting conference calls with the National Weather
Service, coordinating with The American Red Cross, providing news releases to the
citizens, and opening shelters. He gave an update on the projection of the storm. He
also gave an update on what EMS planned to do to prepare for the storm. He said that
they were as prepared as they could be. He said they are encouraging the citizens to
realize if Orange County gets hurricane force winds, there will be a point in time that
response stops. They are encouraging the citizens to be prepared to survive for 72
hours with essential needs such as non-perishable food, drinking water, etc.
Chair Gordon asked where EMS is telling people to go.
Nick Waters said they are recommending that whoever lives in a mobile home or
flood prone area go to a substantial structure, preferably friends or family. They are
using the shelters as a last resort.
John Link said that the Departments of Health, Aging, and Social Services are
making individual contacts with clients and citizens who have special physical conditions
and need to have oxygen.
Nick Waters said they would deal with those individuals on a case by case basis.
He said they would either move them to a place that has electricity or bring in bulk
storage tanks of oxygen.
Regarding the meeting schedule, the Board will address one item for the regular
meeting on September 21St in the courtroom and adjourn the meeting until September
29th to address the remainder of the items on that agenda. The public hearing on a
proposed C&D site will be held on September 21. That meeting will be held in the big
courtroom in Hillsborough. A work session will be held on September 30th
A motion was made by Commissioner Jacobs, seconded by Commissioner
Halkiotis to amend the regular meeting schedule to change the location for September
21St to the courtroom in Hillsborough which will be continued to September 291h, and to
change the purpose of the September 301h meeting to a work session.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
Chair Gordon will decide tomorrow (September 15th) at noon whether or not the
meeting for that night will be canceled.
1. Court Issues.: Update and Approval of Master Plan of Hillsborough Court
Campus Site
Purchasing Director Pam Jones made a presentation. In summary, she reported
on the last five years, what has been done and what needs to be done regarding the
Hillsborough Court Campus Site. The Board has been requested to consider two items.
The first item is to endorse the security enhancement measures at the Hillsborough
Court facility. The second item is to authorize the Manager's negotiated contract to look
at a site master plan of the Hillsborough campus. She summarized the Justice Facilities
Study Committee report of July 1995. After the two new facilities were opened, the
Board charged a second group of people to look at the report and to determine if the
findings were still valid, and to look at the impact of the two new facilities. The group
found that there had been some relief provided by the new additions, but the increasing
caseload in the court system was still requiring urgency for long term development of
court facilities. At the same time that the validation committee was bringing forward their
conclusions, the incident happened in which the young lady was assaulted. The
Security Committee, which included court officials, County Commissioners, and County
staff, had a meeting to talk about security issues at that point. She summarized the
suggestions for enhanced security that were brought up at the meeting. One of the main
goals for security was to provide a single point of entry to the Courthouse with a security
checkpoint. There were several options for additions to the Court campus. She
summarized the goals of the site plan. The cost of the master plan would be
approximately $12,000, and would take six weeks to complete. She summarized the
needs of the Chapel Hill court system. The lease cost for the Chapel Hill court system
for fiscal year 1999-2000 will be $90,000 or more. She summarized the scope of study
for the proposed site master plan.
Judge Wade Barber said he really appreciated the emphasis on planning. He
talked about how the Old Courthouse is being used. He said that the present
courthouse is highly utilized and things are working out well. He appreciates what the
County has done in that regard. In his office they have implemented a civil case
management schedule which is working extremely well. In January he and Carl Fox will
implement a criminal case management plan which will help with decreasing the
caseload. He agrees that the County needs to do a comprehensive plan. He also feels
that security needs to be addressed. He appreciates the two deputies in the courthouse
at this time. He feels that placing the deputies outside the courthouse is the most
important thing that could be done at this time regarding security. This is also the most
economical thing they could do at this point. He thinks the security checkpoints will
require a lot of long-range planning and facilities. He feels the Courthouse needs
additional waiting areas. People are standing in the hallways at this time. He feels the
County is on the right track in developing a long-range plan.
Judge Joe Buckner supports making a good long-range plan for meeting Orange
County's court needs. They are committed to using all of their resources. He has
moved high volume court to the end of the week to manage parking facilities. They are
taking care of the business they have to provide now, but the next phase of volume may
be difficult to handle in their present facilities. There has been a 65% increase in his
caseload in district court in the last five years. They just want to have the facilities to
handle the increase in the upcoming years. There are some unforeseen circumstances
that must be anticipated. For example, there could be an increase in traffic tickets, a
case that may last for weeks, etc. He supports a master plan that is economical and
safe for everyone. He is committed to help in any way.
Commissioner Carey appreciates the judges being flexible and their efforts in
maximizing the use of the facilities. He asked if the projections for population increases
would be updated in any way.
Pam Jones said the master plan would update population projections.
Judge Buckner said that with the passing of the Victims Rights Amendment, if
you are a victim of a crime, you have the right to be contacted about the status of the
specific situation. As a result, the District Attorneys' offices will get significant numbers
of new employees.
Commissioner Halkiotis feels the County should not be paying $61,000 per year
in Hillsborough and $90,000 per year in Chapel Hill for rented space. He asked Pam
Jones to talk about the proposal for Homestead Road.
Pam Jones said that the Homestead Road site does have a parcel set aside for
courts.
Judge Buckner asked about Chapel Hill's responsibility for helping to build and
pay for court facilities.
John Link said that Chapel Hill does not feel they have a responsibility except for
the upkeep of the buildings.
Commissioner Halkiotis made reference to traffic court and asked Judge Buckner
if there is a convenience factor with having traffic court in downtown Chapel Hill versus
having it at Homestead Road.
Judge Buckner did not have an opinion about downtown Chapel Hill versus
Homestead Road. He said most of the people who get minor traffic violations in Chapel
Hill are from Chapel Hill/Carrboro, so there is a travel factor. The other issue is officer
availability and being able to bring in one officer at a time in a case that needs an
officer's testimony.
Commissioner Jacobs asked about the master plan. He feels it would be useful
to have a presentation on the facilities report from 1995. He asked if there had been any
archeological studies on the remainder of the Hillsborough campus.
Pam Jones said that there have been archeological studies done only on the
land that they have disturbed but not on the entire property.
Commissioner Jacobs said he agreed with what Commissioner Halkiotis said
about the rent and court fees.
Joe Buckner made reference to court costs and said that in 1999 the court fees
were increased by $1.00. Perhaps revenues from the actual operations of the court
have not kept pace with the growth.
Commissioner Jacobs recommended passing a resolution to send to NCACC
and the state legislatures, articulating that the County is being asked to take on a
tremendous financial burden and the corresponding support has not been forthcoming
over the last years.
Chair Gordon asked about the recommendation for the Hillsborough area and
what was planned for Chapel Hill.
Judge Buckner said that there would not be superior court in Chapel Hill. The
courtroom in Chapel Hill is used for traffic citations. He explained what district court
includes as listed below:
? Motor vehicle offenses
? Domestic issues - divorce, alimony, child custody, child support, etc.
? Juvenile - delinquency and Department of Social Services cases and special
sessions of child support court
? Hospital hearings
? Probable cause hearings
? Criminal misdemeanors
? Boundary disputes
Judge Barber told about superior court and what cases they hear. These are
listed below:
? Felony cases
? DWI cases
? Civil cases other than family
? Condemnation cases - professional negligence, medical malpractice, etc.
Judge Buckner said he and Judge Barber made a determination that based upon
load, need, and schedule that they could switch courtrooms. They call the three
courtrooms the Old Courtroom, the New Courtroom, and the Big Courtroom. At this
time, superior court takes precedence over the other cases in using the Old Courtroom
and the New Courtroom. The other cases use the Big Courtroom.
Judge Barber said the next courtroom does not have to be very large. He said it
needs to be a good, dignified room so everyone who comes in feels that their case is
important.
Judge Buckner said he would like to have a smaller courtroom so that domestic
cases and smaller cases with 15 people or less could be handled.
Chair Gordon asked about the phases of the master plan. She would like to hear
about the specific things that are going to be addressed so the Commissioners can
make better judgements about this issue.
Purchasing Director Pam Jones explained that she tied the master plan and the
phasing plan too closely together. She said that after the information about the site is
received from the master plan, the architect could give some ideas about the phasing of
the project. She said the Board would need to look at that and give their comments
about the phasing. She said there are many levels of discussion before the specific
phases are determined.
Commissioner Brown asked about the space needs of the Sheriff and how this
fits into the project.
Pam Jones said the 1995 report consolidated the Sheriff into the building that
would be constructed as well as the jail. She said this could be identified as the first
phase.
Commissioner Halkiotis made reference to Judge Barber's use of the word
dignity. He feels that the people who come to the courthouse need to show dignity and
respect. He feels that people should not be smoking in the front of the courthouse.
Bringing a sense of dignity to the building needs to be part of the master plan. He feels
that security is an issue that needs to be constantly addressed.
A motion was made by Commissioner Carey, seconded by Commissioner
Halkiotis to authorize the Chair to sign the master plan of the Hillsborough Court campus
site and endorse the camera and the deputies for security measures.
Chair Gordon said she questioned building onto the downtown Chapel Hill site as
opposed to expanding within it because it is a very congested area.
Commissioner Brown said she is concerned about two issues. One issue is
transportation from Chapel Hill to Hillsborough and the other issue is the traffic in
Hillsborough.
John Link feels the Board needs to talk about expanding Orange Public
Transportation (OPT) or pushing Triangle Transit Authority (TTA) to have another route
to Hillsborough and back to Chapel Hill. This is an element of the plan that needs to be
addressed. Also, he would like to see how this folds into a space needs assessment for
all of county government.
Commissioner Jacobs said he supported the motion, but feels that the proposal
is vague and the context is not articulated.
Chair Gordon asked what the product of the master plan would include.
Pam Jones said the Board would receive another report that shows the
capabilities of the site. She said the master plan would give more of the context that is
needed.
Discussion ensued on how far back on the property the proposal should
consider.
John Link said the message from the Board should be they would address what
needs to be addressed in phases.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
2. Solid Waste Matters
a. Status of Interlocal Agreement
Chair Gordon reminded the Board that the Interlocal Agreement was
adopted on August 17t". The question is whether or not the Agreement should be
modified.
John Link gave an update on the Interlocal Agreement. He said that the
County and Chapel Hill have agreed on every point. The response from Carrboro is that
they would like to see two towns along with the County included when making decisions
on establishing fees. The fees are those that are required to carry out the entire solid
waste plan, specifically the recycling goals and the reduction of solid waste at the
source. One of the options in funding these fees was the special district taxes, one for
Chapel Hill/Carrboro and the other for Orange County. There has been no agreement
as to the methodology to pursue establishing those fees. The Agreement says that
those fees will be established. The question is whether the fees will be established with
one other town or two other towns.
Commissioner Carey said that he does not have a problem with reverting
back to the original language to include two towns. He said this is more meaningful to
Carrboro because they are the smaller of the two towns. He thinks Carrboro may be
afraid that Orange County and Chapel Hill are going to do something regardless of how
they feel about it. He thinks the Board should be sensitive to that.
Commissioner Halkiotis said that he wants to make this easy for the staff
to administer. He supports the Agreement as it is. He suggested asking Carrboro to
trust and support Orange County to set the fee structure.
A motion was made by Commissioner Halkiotis, seconded by
Commissioner Brown to reaffirm the Solid Waste Interlocal Agreement as written.
Commissioner Jacobs would rather go along with what Carrboro has
requested. He said even though it is not a major issue with the Board, it is apparently a
major issue with Carrboro to include two towns along with the County in the Agreement.
Commissioner Brown said that while everyone supports recycling, there
are all kinds of views on the level of recycling and how to go about it.
Commissioner Carey said that the Board has an opportunity to build
some trust by recognizing that Carrboro feels this is an important issue. He feels the
Board needs to move ahead with this issue.
Commissioner Halkiotis made reference to the LOG and said that during
the last year, the County was getting voted down constantly. He feels that Chapel Hill
and Carrboro should trust the County to manage the landfill operations. He wants the
Board to move ahead and see what happens. He just wants to make it easy for the
staff.
VOTE: AYES, 3; NOS, 2 (Commissioner Carey and Commissioner Jacobs)
A RESOLUTION OF AFFIRMATION
(see memo from John Link)
Commissioner Jacobs asked if what is in the resolution is incorporated in the
Interlocal Agreement.
Rod Visser said that there is language in the Interlocal Agreement that says that
the County needs to have the freedom to implement appropriate fees or otherwise to
adjust the system to man the fees. This resolution is just a supplement to the
Agreement.
John Link said that this resolution makes it perfectly clear that Orange County
cannot move forward without the fees.
A motion was made by Commissioner Jacobs, seconded by Commissioner
Carey to approve the Resolution of Affirmation to the Solid Waste Interlocal Agreement
as stated below:
ORANGE COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
A RESOLUTION AFFIRMING THE NEED FOR ALL PARTIES TO SUPPORT A
REVENUE STRUCTURE SUFFICIENT TO FINANCE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE
INTEGRATED SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT PLAN
WHEREAS, the governing boards of the Towns of Carrboro, Chapel Hill,
Hillsborough and Orange County have upon several occasions in the past
expressed their formal support for the implementation of the Integrated Solid
Waste Management Plan and its inherent solid waste reduction goals of 45% by
the year 2001 and 61 % by the year 2006; and
WHEREAS, progress towards those goals will be dependent on the successful
implementation of new strategies, processes, programs, and facilities that will
expand the types and amounts of materials to be reduced, reused and recycled;
and
WHEREAS, the December 30, 1998 report from the Solid Waste Alternative
Financing Committee pointed out that there would be an annual shortfall in the
Landfill Fund budget during each of the next ten years of between $1.8 million to
$3.8 million, which would need to be made up with alternative revenue sources if
the Integrated Solid Waste Management Plan were to be carried out as
contemplated; and
WHEREAS, the Alternative Financing Committee also discussed the feasibility of
employing solid waste service district taxes to finance differing levels of
recycling/reduction/reuse activities in different jurisdictions or different
geographical locations; and
WHEREAS, the employment of various alternative revenue sources will require
the support of the County's municipal partners if the parties are together to make
reasonable progress towards the mutually established solid waste reduction
goals;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE ORANGE COUNTY
BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS DOES HEREBY reaffirm its commitment to the
Integrated Solid Waste Management Plan with its inherent solid waste reduction
goals and urges the governing boards of Carrboro, Chapel Hill, and Hillsborough
to do likewise; and does hereby urge each municipal governing board to affirm its
commitment to ensure that the fees and charges necessary to carry out the
Integrated Solid Waste Management Plan are approved and put into effect in a
timely and unambiguous manner so that it will be possible to successfully
implement this plan.
This, the 14th day of September, 1999.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
b. Parameters of C&D Site Search
Commissioner Jacobs distributed a list of questions. He feels that there
are a number of significant issues that have not been addressed. These are listed
below:
Need for a C & D landfill - financial considerations
Timing - alternatives to September 30th and July 1St
Siting - protected areas (rural buffer, watershed/WQCA), target
areas, default location
Co-location of functions -transfer station, MRF, economic development
Aggressiveness - model C & D recycling ordinance (site separation) and
Joint EDC/Solid Waste effort to seek grant funding
He feels that these are serious issues and questions that need to be
addressed.
Chair Gordon asked if the option can be extended.
John Link said that real estate representatives are not interested in
extending this offer because they have another buyer waiting if this option is not
executed.
Geoffrey Gledhill said that a 30-day notice is needed before a final
decision is made on a C&D site. He also explained how the County could buy the
property since Chapel Hill has the option. The option agreement turns into a contract for
purchase if it is exercised and there will be 60 days in which to close the deal. He made
reference to his letter to the County Commissioners and said that the County
Commissioners need to make the decision on this site after they hold the public hearing.
Commissioner Carey said that Commissioner Jacobs has raised some
questions and policy issues that the County Commissioners need to discuss. The Board
also needs to have a thorough discussion about the pros and cons of recycling. He
thinks the option is not the most significant thing that is driving the need to make a
decision by September 30th. The most significant thing is the capacity of the current site.
Regarding the Guess Road site, he is not willing to take the option and reserve this as
open space because there are many other things to consider. He feels that a C&D site
needs to be centrally located.
Commissioner Halkiotis made reference to Commissioner Jacobs' list and
said that the Landfill Owners Group (LOG) has discussed many of these items. The
Board does need to be discussing these issues.
Commissioner Brown said that alternatives to recycling C&D waste
should be revisited. She said there does not seem to be much economic benefit to
doing the recycling.
Chair Gordon said she understood that there are mandates for solid
waste facilities, but there are no mandates for C & D sites.
John Link distributed a copy of an Orange County Proposal from June
1999 regarding the Solid Waste Interlocal Agreement. He made reference to two items
that were highlighted and are stated below:
IF all entities continue to work through the LOG to develop options for:
construction and demolition disposal,
THEN the County will pursue a conceptual revenue structure that
finances core operations (MRF, MSW, and C & D Landfills) through
tipping fees.
John Link said the reason he brought this up was because the Solid
Waste Interlocal Agreement is almost completed and he thinks the other jurisdictions
would remind the Board that they would do these things that were highlighted. He
encourages continued discussion of these issues, but he hopes the Board will remember
what they stated they would do.
Commissioner Brown made reference to the first item that states
"construction and demolition disposal" but the other one states "C & D Landfills."
John Link said that "landfill" could probably be replaced with "disposal."
He said the expectation is that there will still be a method by which citizens in the County
can dispose of C & D.
Commissioner Brown asked if there was not a C&D site, how that would
affect the revenues.
John Link said that the revenues would have to be generated by another
way, like tipping fees.
Commissioner Brown also asked about the timing. She asked how long
it takes to prepare a site.
John Link said that the timing was for a decision to be made by
September, and have a site open by June. He said if the Board has to pursue other
alternatives after the next 30 days, the other jurisdictions need to be reassured that it
does not mean the County is not committed in carrying out their responsibility to find a
way to dispose of C & D.
Commissioner Jacobs asked that John Link call the trustees to see if the
option can be extended beyond 30 days.
The meeting was adjourned at this point.
3. Strategic Communications Plan
This item was postponed.
4. Update on Mebane/Orange County Planning Coordination
This item was postponed.
ADJOURNMENT
A motion was made by Commissioner Halkiotis, seconded by Commissioner
Brown to adjourn the meeting. The next regular meeting will be held on September 21,
1999 at 7:30 p.m. in the big courtroom in the new County Courthouse in Hillsborough,
North Carolina.
Alice M. Gordon. Chair
Beverly A. Blythe, Clerk