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MINUTES
ORANGE COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
AUGUST 7, 1997
BI-MONTHLY WORK SESSION
The Orange County Board of Commissioners met in regular session on Thursday, August 7,
1997 at 7:30 p.m. in the Government Services Center in Hillsborough, North Carolina.
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Chair William L. Crowther, and Commissioners
Moses Carey, Jr., Alice Gordon, Margaret Brown and Stephen Halkiotis.
COUNTY ATTORNEY PRESENT: Geoffrey Gledhill
COUNTY STAFF PRESENT: County Manager John M. Link, Jr., Deputy Clerk to the Board
Kathy Baker. (All other staff will be identified where appropriate).
NOTE: All background information and signed documents are in the permanent agenda file in the
Clerk's office.
ADDITIONS TO AGENDA The following items were added to the Agenda: 1) Additions to the
State Transportation Improvement Program, 2) Information Systems Strategic Automation Plan, 3)
New Locations for Commissioners Meetings, 4) Commissioner Representative on the Chapel Hill -
Chatham Work Group, 5) Meetings with OWASA regarding Cane Creek, Chatham County and Water
and Sewer Boundary. John Link distributed a list of possible topics for future Work Sessions. A
copy of that list is in the Permanent Agenda File in the clerk's office.
Commissioner Gordon requested that the agenda for future work sessions be prepared in a
fashion similar to the regular agenda so that each item has an abstract and back up materials.
A. Adoption Of 1997-1998 Commissioners' Goals - John Link suggested that the members of the
Board indicate which goals they wished to discuss. After full discussion, the Goals could be
adopted with one motion.
Commissioner Carey asked for clarification regarding the Minority Female Business Owner's
Directory which was to be printed and distributed in May, 1997. Ted Abernathy, Director of the
Economic Development Commission, indicated that this department was working with minority
churches and others to collect data on minority owned business. That report will be published in
the near future. There is no official listing of minority women owned businesses in Orange County.
The most comprehensive list is for the Women Business Owner's Roundtable which lists business
which are owned, or partly owned, by women.
The Board of Commissioners requested that the Commission for Women review the need for
the development of a minority women business owners directory and report their findings to the
Board.
Sustainable Development Discussion:
Commissioner Brown asked if sustainable development had been adopted as a
Commissioner's Goal. She commented that if they had not been adopted, she would like to see that
happen.
Ted Abernathy, Director of the Economic Development Commission (EDC) mentioned that
the Commission has adopted sustainable development principles which will be used as the EDC
looks at the issue of sustainable development.
John Link stated that those principles had not been officially adopted as a Commissioner
goal. Sustainable development principles could be used when the issues of the economy are
being discussed. He also mentioned that the Shaping Orange County's Future Task Force is
expected to review these and incorporate them, if they see fit, into their final report. Other than
these expectations there were no specific intentions for how to use these principles.
Commissioner Carey suggested that the Shaping Orange County's Future Task Force be
requested to review them.
John Link agreed to research past discussion on these principles and to offer suggestions
as to sustainable development goals and how to achieve them.
Commissioner Gordon suggested that sustainable economic development could be added
and then adopted as a part of the EDC Strategic Plan.
Commissioner Brown suggested another area to consider would be the analysis of present
development and the development of a template. She asked for a review and explanation of the
current template.
Master Recreation & Parks Plan:
Commissioner Carey asked about the goal of updating the Master Recreation & Parks Plan.
John Link stated that he and the Town Managers have met on the various options for coordinating
and combining both the capital and operating portions of Parks and Recreation Plan. One of the
questions which arose was did the Commissioners want to expand either the number or the charge
of the Task Force which has already been appointed in order for it to be more inclusive of the
planning process that the towns are pursuing. A letter has been sent to the other Managers asking
if they were interested in pursuing a broadened approach. The internal Recreation and Parks Plan is
currently scheduled to be revised this fall. The Town Manager's will be contacted in follow up to the
recent letter requesting their participation.
Solid Waste Issues:
Commissioner Gordon suggested that the solid waste issue which is on the agenda and the
Solid Waste Goals need to be discussed as the same time. She also asked how the Efland Sewer
Projects relates to the Bond. John Link stated that the goal for the Efland Sewer Planning Process
was to acquire funding from outside sources. If the Bond passes that goal will be accomplished.
Economic Development Districts:
Commissioner Halkiotis asked if this was related in any way to the Buckhorn Economic
Development District.
Ted Abernathy stated that the zoning has occurred but there is no related goal at this time.
John Link indicated that Mebane has been interested in gaining clarity regarding Orange
County's goals and plans. The funding of water and sewer lines, as a concept, has been driven by
our trying to gain State grants or loans to address the homeowner needs in the Efland area. If the
EDD develops there may be companies locating there who would be willing to participate in the
extension of water/sewer lines or be willing to be part of the process by which we gain Economic
Development sewer funding from the State. In that situation a company would indicate that they
would locate in that area, but only if the infrastructure was in place.
Commissioner Halkiotis reported that the Credit Union staff informed him that they would
have to pay $80,000 to hook onto the sewer line. He felt that it was counterproductive for the hook-
up cost to be so expensive that installing a septic system would be cheaper.
It was suggested that the Board Chair write to Hillsborough and ask for clarification about
the cost of the Credit Union hooking onto the sewer line. The developer will also be contacted to
solicit information about their construction cost.
Commissioner Gordon asked what could be done for transportation with the STP Direct
Allocation Fund. She asked if this could be researched.
A motion was made by Commissioner Carey, seconded by Commissioner Halkiotis, to adopt
the 1997-1998 Commissioners' Goals, with the exception of the solid waste goal, as presented.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
B. 1997-2007 Capital Improvements Plan
A motion was made by Commissioner Gordon, seconded by Commissioner Carey to approve the
Capital Project Ordinances for the Chapel Hill-Carrboro City Schools and Orange County Schools, as
presented in the agenda abstract dated August 7, 1997.
John Link asked for instruction regarding East Chapel Hill High School. He mentioned that it
the CIP the amount of $11.8 Million has already been approved. Most of that money is a result of
State Bond funds. In the November, 1997 Bond package there is an additional $3 million which
would be allocated to East Chapel Hill High School. He discussed the contents of a letter from Neil
Pedersen requesting approval of a project ordinance for the $11.8 Million Dollars. Mr. Link asked if
the Board was comfortable proceeding with the project, given the questions regarding the reasons
for going from $11.8 Million to $14.8 Million Dollars. He mentioned that the practical effect of this is
that by adopting the $11.8 Million, the additional $3 Million is also adopted because the architect is
proceeding with the plans which will cost $14.8 Million
Superintendent Pedersen indicated that they are proceeding with the original plans. They
are structuring the bids so that if the additional $3 Million is not approved, they would remove the
unfunded portions of the plans.
John Link clarified that if the $11.8 Million Dollar bond is approved, it would more than likely
include the additional $3 million. This project should be discussed and decided upon in the near
future because it is currently in the planning stage.
Commissioner Halkiotis indicated that his concern was that the integrity of the bond process
be preserved by keeping the $3 million separate from the $11.8 million.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
The County Capital Project Ordinances were reviewed and discussed. John Link mentioned
that the $500,000 for the Skills Development Center reflects anticipated private placement. It is not
pay-as-you go funds. One of the potential options in terms of how the proceeds from the public
building bond would be used would have a part of the proceeds going toward the Skills
Development Center. In either case, the $500,000 is not pay as you go funds.
Commissioner Halkiotis asked about the $300,000 for emergency preparedness. Rod Visser
mentioned that this amount results from the discussion regarding installing permanent generators
at two high schools. He pointed out that there were lower end options which would cost around
$25,000 for each school. It was suggested that county staff work with the school staff and return
several, lower-end options to the Commissioners at a later date.
Commissioner Halkiotis asked about having a Strategic Automation category requesting
$425,000 and a Human Services Automation requesting $105,000. He asked why these were not
combined in one category. John Link indicated that the Human Service portion was more than the
Master Client Index. It is actually the Human Service piece of the I.S. Strategic Plan. He mentioned
that having them separate was actually in order to gain all possible state and federal reimbursement
that relates to Human Services.
The Criminal Justice Study item, which amounted to $75,000 was discussed. This money is
being recommended to complete a study on long range strategic plans.
Commissioner Carey pointed out that the design of jail facilities influence the long term cost
of running the facility for its entire life cycle. He stated that the operating costs of the current
facilities will greatly increase if those facilities are used for the long term. The recommended
amount was decreased to $25,000. A report on the original committee's recommendation will be
presented to the Commissioners, along with comments on the current situation. A charge will be
established for the future task force.
A motion was made by Commissioner Gordon, seconded by Commissioner Brown, to adopt
the Capital Project Ordinances as recommended with the four (4) exceptions listed.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
C. Solid Waste Matters
Chair Crowther mentioned that the Solid Waste Plan has been sent to the State. He also
mentioned that the Landfill Reorganization Work Group has completed its work and has been
disbanded. The report dated June 27, 1997, and titled Interlocal Agreement Concerning Solid
Waste Management Matters was drafted by that group. John Link indicated that the Interlocal
Agreement would be the focus of this discussion. After discussion, the open matters in this report
need to be resolved by all involved units of government prior to December 1, 1997. If this resolution
is not reached the Agreement will dissolve.
Mr. Jessup indicated that the Reorganization Work Group arrived at the decision to have a
deadline for adoption because they felt that if current Boards couldn't come to an agreement, then
new local Boards should have their own opportunity to design a plan.
Commissioner Carey pointed out that another reason to resolve this issue is so that the
adjacent landowners of the current land fill can have their concerns resolved. That cannot be done
until someone is actually responsible for the area.
Commissioner Gordon stated that her understanding was that everything had to be agreed
upon before anything went into effect. Mr. Jessup stated that if the open issues are not settled, then
the entire agreement will need to be completely rewritten. The open matters are 1) selecting the new
Solid Waste Management Site, (whether a landfill or some alternative) 2) settling on a process for
providing community benefits to residents of the new landfill site, 3) and Carrboro, Chapel Hill and
the County must agree on the transfer of solid waste system operational control, assets and
liabilities. The Reorganization Work Group decided that the process for the new waste management
center needed to be in place by December 1st, but the local agreement will not be in place unless a
schedule has been created about benefits to the community surrounding the current landfill.
Commissioner Halkiotis stated for the record that he wanted to be very careful what was
promised to the residents of the Eubanks Road area. He is sworn to uphold the constitution of the
United States and North Carolina. The offers and suggested benefits for the residents of this area
must be legal and in keeping with what is actually possible for local governments to accomplish.
John Link stated that a conclusion must be reached regarding how to address the disposal
of solid waste within a matter of months and not years. There needs to be a management structure
put into place that can be supported by all local officials.
Commissioner Carey mentioned that local officials need to be very careful about the
promises made and solutions recommended. There may very well be other nearby, but not abutting,
landowners who will come forward with requests for compensation. The responsible unit of
government needs to be careful that they not make promises that would be impossible to keep.
Chair Crowther mentioned some of the possible benefits to adjacent landowners. He also
mentioned that there is a group of local residents who have stated that they would give up all
compensation if they were assured that no future landfill would be sited in their area.
Geoffrey Gledhill pointed out that there is no compensation issue on the table with regard to
the residents living near the existing landfill. These are not actually compensation issues, but
rather they are matters of public policy. For example, building a park or determining an area for
water and sewer or changing a speed limit. The only entitlement is the one that would be created by
the Interlocal Agreement. He mentioned that it would be legal to agree to a process but particular
reparations may not be legal compensations. Another issue to consider is that the process of
deciding on benefits will take much longer than the several months allowed for the adoption of this
Agreement.
Gayle Wilson reported that the monitoring of local well water shows absolutely no
contamination of those wells.
Commissioner Carey noted that the Greene Tract is not a part of the assets as set out in this
agreement. He felt that this would mean that the County would have all the responsibility but not all
of the assets.
John Link mentioned that the Town Managers have indicated that their elected officials
would be reluctant to transfer their portion of the Greene Tract with the Landfill.
Chair Crowther asserted that the County needs to state its position on the document first so
that the other jurisdictions will be able to respond to that position.
Commissioner Carey felt that the overall approach is good. The parts that concern him, and
several of the other Commissioners, are the disposition of the Greene Tract and how we go about
determining the community benefits and what they are going to include. He asked for clarification
regard 2.04 of the Agreement. Mr. Jessup said that there is a general requirement to bring all solid
waste to the County facility. "Other recyclables" refers to things that the County is not recycling but
which one of the towns is recycling.
Commissioner Gordon stated that having the County take over total responsibility in the
current scenario is problematic because of some of the details. She felt that there would need to be
something very close to consensus among the governing bodies in order for the disposal system to
be effective. In particular, she felt that the disposition of the Greene Tract is a problem.
Commissioner Halkiotis felt that others do not understand what it means for the Greene Tract
to be an asset. He feels that it is unproductive to have the elected officials continue to come
together once a month because of the intense philosophical diversity of the combined Boards. The
agreement has merit but he has a problem with the disposition of the Greene Tract..
Commissioner Brown stated that she did not have a problem with the document, but she
questioned why the "open issues" couldn't be addressed and the adoption of the document could
be done after those issues are addressed. The disposition of the Greene Tract is also a problem
for her. She questioned Section 7.02. The Withdrawal of a Party. Mr. Jessup explained that if an
entity withdrew, and there was no debt on the landfill, they would not have to bring their trash to the
facility or send representatives to the advisory board.
Chair Crowther summarized that the consensus of the Board of Commissioners is that this
issue needs further discussion.
Commissioner Halkiotis suggested that the Greene Tract remain, in perpetuity, as an asset
of the Landfill, as it was originally established. He wants it to stay in the same state that it is in
currently.
Commissioner Carey felt that this tract could be used for something. He is not committed
that it remain in its present state. It could return to private ownership, however, it is currently an
asset of the landfill.
There was consensus that it is unacceptable to the Board of Commissioners for the Greene
Tract to be removed from this agreement. Its disposition must remain with this agreement, as an
asset of the landfill.
John Link suggested that Mr. Jessup discuss this issue with the other municipalities. He
also felt that there needs to be another plan in the event that this agreement is not adopted by
December 1st.
Q Additions to the State Transportation Improvement Program
Commissioner Gordon reported that the Board of Transportation has added two
Transportation Improvement Program projects in Orange County without consulting either the
Board of Commissioners or the Transportation Advisory Committee (TAC) for the areas in question.
She felt that this is not needed or wanted by the people in the area and requested that the
Commissioners support writing to the Department of Transportation requesting that they stop plans
for this project, a feasibility study for widening Mt. Carmel Church Road.
A motion was made by Commissioner Halkiotis, seconded by Commissioner Brown, to
authorize a letter be written, and signed by the Chair, requesting that this project be stopped.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
E Information Systems Strategic Automation Plan
John Link suggested that the Strategic Automation Plan be reviewed and a decision made so
the Plan can be finalized and implementation begun.
Commissioner Halkiotis and Commission Brown suggested the names of several additional
members. It was suggested that the group not be extremely large and that the members of this task
force be allowed to somewhat determine the direction they take. They do not need to be told exactly
what to do. Also, a mission statement and general charge, is important. This group does not need
to be constrained by arbitrary deadlines.
John Link suggested that this could be returned to the Commissioners at their August 20th
meeting.
ADJOURN
A motion was made by Commissioner Carey, seconded by Commissioner Brown, to adjourn
the meeting. The next regular meeting of the Board of Commissioners will be held on Wednesday,
August 20, 1997, at 7:30 p.m. in the Chapel Hill Town Council Chambers, 306 North Columbia Street,
Chapel Hill, NC 27516
Respectfully submitted,
Kathy Baker, Deputy Clerk