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ORANGE COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS -
BUDGET PUBLIC HEARING
JUNE 29, 1987
The orange County Board of Commissioners met an June 29, 1987 at 7:30
p.m. at Lincoln Center, Chapel Hill, North Carolina to hold a public
hearing on the proposed 1987-88 budget.
- BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT: Chair Shirley E. Marshall and Commissioners
Moses Carey, Jr., Stephen Halkiotis, John Hartwell and Don Willhoit.
STAFF MEMBERS PRESENT: County Manager Kenneth R. Thompson, Assistant
County Managers William T. Laws and Albert Kittrell, Finance Director
Gordon Baker, .Clerk to the,Board Beverly A. Blythe, ,Budget/Management
Analyst Donna Wagner and Director of Personnel Beverly Whitehead.
'Chair Marshall made opening comments and opened the public hearing for
citizen comments.
•-~=•- 1. MARY BRIDGERS asked the Board to~restore the money to the Social ~
Services Daycare Unit for the technician and half-time social worker.. She
pointed out that the daycare unit needs these added positions in order to
be'able to give proper services to families that they serve. At the
present time the daycare coordinator is also a part-time bookkeeper. The
social workers are carrying too many cases and there is a lack of services
far families and, in particular, children. She referred to a report that,--~~
indicated that those children who have attended daycare are less likely to
fail in school, need special help in school or drop out of school. She'_,,_
asked that the children be provided with the best social services and
support services sa they may have a bright future.
2. KATE SANFORD , Director of the Chapel Hill Preschool, referred to
a paper. that was done at Frank Porter Graham Child Development Center
which talks about the quality of daycare and preschool intellectual
development in disadvantaged children. The report emphasizes ~4hat ~~.hese
children need less remedial training and that they advance through the
grades. She asked that the two positions in the Depa~~-tment of Social
Services be funded. The half-time position will enable the services that
are .presently being given -to continue. .without this position, the
_ Department of Social -Services will -not be able to -achieve _ the- state's
mandate of meeting with each family on a quarterly basis. --
- . ° --_-- 3: ~ . CT~ZIS NII`?'TER - - encou}--aged'. and requested that proactive preventive
_~--~-.:~aaintenance be practiced across the broad areas of-human service programs.
There are many rewards in preventive maintenance .including cost savings.
She requested that the Board give- an increased amount of her tax dollars
- to preventive programs in the human service area.
4. PINDIE STEPHEN , Director of the orange County Literacy Council,
noted that Orange County has S,opQ functionally illiterates or 15~ of the
population. These individuals are .limited and not able to.functian =u].ly
in society. .Being illiterate affects home, health and job. She asked that
the County Commissioners fund 4~ of their budget to help in the efforts of
the Orange County Literacy Council.
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5. TED PARRISH ,'member of the Chapel. Hi11 Board of Education and
speaking for David Parrish, spoke on the issue of equity. Two things to
consider in the discussion of equity are (1) making sure that both
districts have the same amount of people for educational. purposes and (2)
capacity. The issue needs to be discussed by reasonable people over a
fair amount of time rather than having budget deliberations to define
equity.
6. DAVE THADEN , Assistant Principal at Phillips Junior High, talked
about the relationship of quality education and the need to compete.
Phillips has received two successive grants to be a model school in math
and science. He stated that people come from all over to Chapel Hill
because of their quality school system. The people of Chapel Hill have
indicated their feelings about the school system with the funding of a
district tax. He encouraged the Board to take advantage of the fact that
the people have spoken in support of the district tax and use that tax to
fund the expansion budget.
7. DARYL DUNLAP , spoke for S'
Orange County School System. She
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-,-~8. BARBARA DAY spoke on behalf of the Glenwood PTA. She stated her
support for the daycare and childcare issues mentioned above. The PTA
endorses the budget as proposed by the Chapel Hill-Carrboro School Board.
She spoke about the teacher salaries and expressed a concern for
attracting and keeping quality teachers. She spoke in support of the
teacher supplements and the supplements for teacher aides.
9. MARTHA DILL , parent, property owner and teacher, addressed the
issue of equality of funding between the two school systems. The issue is
significant but is one that cannot be resolved in a budget deliberation.
it needs to be resolved at the state level. She stated that the teachers
in Chapel Hill are funded $700 below a number of other communities in
North Carolina. She asked that the Board effectively represent the voters
in Chapel Hill and support the Chapel Hill district tax.
10. JUDY HAIL teacher at Chapel Hill High School, spoke in support
of the increase in. the supplemental pay. She asked that the Soard
consider the role that they play in setting and enforcing the values in
the community. She used the Olympic Festival to compare the. values which
are set for this event and the values set for the schools. She asked that
the Board increase the supplement to show that they have not lost sight of
what is important in Orange County.
11. AL BALDWIN , teacher at Chapel Hill High School, commented on the
inadequate teacher salary. He stated that the teachers want to teach in a
community that cares as much about their teachers as the teachers care
about their children.
12. SARA CLAYTDR emphasized that medical insurance will be increased
by approximately 33% while teachers funded by the state may receive a 4.5~
salary increase. The teacher salaries will erode and diminish. She
expressed concern for the classified employees and stated that many of the
teacher aides live at below the poverty level. This increased medical
cost will add an additional burden to these employees. She talked about
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the changing attitudes toward the teaching profession and the importance
of attracting the best, the brightest and the most dedicated teachers to
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13. SARAH STEWART recognized those in the audience who attended in,~ `
support of the two school budgets. She noted that many employees have:.
spoken about the need for livable salaries. Many citizens have spoken
about the value of education and. their desire to pay better salaries to
school employees. She expressed concern about several aspects of the
budget process stating that suggested priorities are acceptable but that
specific proposals are not. She spoke about the career ladder that Orange
County has and will have the per pupil allocation to advance programs.
Chapel~Hill has only the per pupil allocation and will have to choose
between employees and programs. She asked that Chapel Hill be allowed to
use their district tax for teacher supplements. The issue of the district
tax should be dealt with outside of the budget process. She asked that
the Commissioners consider whom they represent and what they are saying
before making the final school budget decisions.
14. DR. EDGARTON past president of the Mental Health Association,
spoke on behalf of the Association stating that the Mental. Health
Association supports the request for- the funding of the Crisis Emergency
Services Unit. There are 400 persons in Orange County with chronic mental
illness who need these crisis services repeatedly. Nationally, 70$ of all
admissions for inpatient services are repeat admissions. They frequently
need only a~very short stay or support without hospitalization in order to
continue to function~in a job or in a community. Without it they may end
up on the street, in a nursing home or as excessive burdens to their
families. The families of these persons deserve this k~.nd of program to-.,
enable them to cope. He stated that other counties have. this type of
program. It will save money in the long run and is the right thing to do. `
15. JANET COLM , Executive Director of Planned Parenthood, stated
that an increase in funding has been requested for their educational
program. She emphasized that these are.real kids who need to build on a
positive experience. She asked that full funding be granted.
16. ELEANOR SCANDLIN asked the Board to listen to the teachers. As
a senior citizen she values education as one of the most important
possessions. She stated that everyone is willing to put their taxes toward
the education for the children.
17. JULIE LINEHAN , Rape Crisis Center, informed the Board that the
North Carolina Status for Women has decreased their level of funding from
$20,000 to $8,000. She distributed a revised budget to the members of the
Board. She reiterated about the growth the Center is experiencing with
their outreach program in reaching the citizens in the County. She
stressed that the Center would like to be able to sustain the services
they offer at the present time. _-
18. HOWARD FRIED talked to the Board as fellow democrats. He asked
that the Board fund both school systems at whatever level it takes.
19. LARRY WAKEFORD stated that the real issue is the serious
inequity of teacher salaries versus those of other professionals in the
area. The Chapel Hill-Carrboro School Board is attempting to address this
inequity with a revised supplement schedule to be funded by an increase in
the district tax. This district tax was initiated by the citizens to
upgrade the quality of education. He asked that the Board approve the
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increase in the district tax.
20. DR. BILL HOLLISTER , teacher of mental health programming at the
University, appealed to the Board to replace the funds that were-dropped
out for the emergency services that he feels are so critical to this
community. Because of the increased growth in the community, the Mental
Health Center does not have the staff or facilities to handle the
increased load and responsibilities. The Center has been dependent upon
Memorial Hospital to provide these services. However, the load on that
clinic is high and there is a deficit in funds. He asked that the Board
reconsider seriously the cut that was made.
21. WILMA WILLHOIT spoke in support of the request for the Crisis
Emergency Service. She stated there is a service needed midway on the
continuum between the clinic visit and the emergency room visit where a
person in crisis can be talked down, supervised and taken care of. This
new program will not only take care of those chronically mentally i11. but
also will help those with acute problems. She stated that it would be cast
effective because first line caregivers will be nurses. A community is
known by what they do for those who cannot care for themselves.
22. JUDY JONES , high school teacher, parent, volunteer and citizen
of Chapel Hill-Carrboro. She made comments about the issue of equity.
Equity for the two school systems does not mean that everything has to be
equal. The ideal of equal opportunity to choose or to pursue goals is the
foundation of this nation. School districts serve different communities
with different priority lists. It is a requirement of governing bodies to
insure that every school district meet basic standards for a good
education. Beyond that, the communities themselves should have the right
to individualize. The citizens of Chapel Hill-Carrboro have clearly indi-
cated their support of the budget approved by their school board and the
people have indicated, by signing a recent petition, their willingness to
tax themselves to pay for this budget. Seventeen cents per $100 valuation
is needed from the district tax. She asked that the Board respect the
wishes of the community and not hesitate to fund the budget in full.
23. DR. JANOWSKY , made brief comments about the need for the crisis
center as proposed by OPC. The center will offer an alternative to those
who normally come to the hospital. The chronically mental ill in a crisis
situation could be served at this center. The people will be trained to
handle the situation.
24. MARY ELLEN PR2ESLEY , retired professor of English and
literature, indicated she knows of no tax she would rather pay than that
for education. She stated that education cannot stand still if the young
people are to be prepared to make a living and learn how to live. The
schools need the very best teachers who are also the very best people.
Necessary backup people and equipment are needed. She spoke in support of
the increase in teacher salaries and the funding of the expansion budget.
25. DAN HOOKER asked that the Commissioners not try to make Chapel
Hill-Carrboro accept less for the sake of equity but to try to upgrade
education in general. He stated his willingness to pay additional taxes
so that both school systems are funded as they have requested.
26. ROSEMARY PLADNA spoke on behalf of the troubled preschooler. She
- described the problem she had in finding a daycare for her son who was
later diagnosed as being hyperactive. Children who have emotional
problems need to be reached before they enter kindergarten or they will be
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lost in the system.
27. LYLE LANSDALL , property owner from Carrboro, asked that the
property owners be allowed to spend their money the way they would like. „-.,,
She talked about the value of .having good public schools. She urged the,
Board to support the increase. ~ ~;
28. RICHARD SCHRAMM ,parent of two children in the Chapel Hill-~
Carrboro school district, stated that those who come to Chapel Hill do so
because of the schools. The school district has a national reputation for
excellence across the country. He urged the Board to give the resources
to the schools to fund the increase in teacher salaries.
29. DEAN DETER farmer
the proposed Orange County.
Education Center. The lost
revenue for the county. He
the public and the private
venture.
and livestock producer, spoke on behalf of
Livestock and Horticulture Market and Rural
of the livestock market has meant a lost of
stated that this is a unique opportunity where
sector can come together and have a joint
30. ALAN BIERMANN spoke in favor of the expansion budget for the
Chapel Hill-Carrboro school system. The expansion budget includes a
request which will increase the salary paid to teachers and an increase in
the salary paid to school bus drivers. He stated that the taxes are in
place to pay for these expansion items and asked that it for used for .this
purpose. '
31. CAROLYN HORN , member of the Chapel Hill-Carrboro School Board,
reiterated her plea that the Hoard extend and expand use of the district, ,,
tax as a source of financial support for the Chapel Hill-Carrboro School
District. She stated that the two school systems are not at cross y
purposes with each other but rather that they would be very happy to mave'-~
in concert whenever a logical system has been devised which penalizes
neither system.
32. PHYLLIS LOTCHIN , member of the Chapel Hill.-Carrboro School
Board, stated that budget decisions should be based solely on each
school's legitimate needs. Equity has never been debated in an open
session of the Commissioners in front of the public and the press.
However, the equity issue has become a factor in this years' budget
process. She stated that regardless of the definition of equity, all the
children in Orange County should have educational opportunities equal to
those of other students in the United States with whom they will be
competing in their postsecondary education and in their choice of work.
Soth school systems have put together a budget that meets each system's
individual needs. She asked that the Board consider each individual
request and respond to them as economic issues, not sociological or
political ones.
33. DR. VAN STEE stated that Orange County represents the finest
blend of people in their living space to be found in North Carolina and
one thing that has improved the quality of life here is the special
relationship with one's pets. The community is growing. He made
reference to the Animal Control Task Force and the focus to improve the
quality of life for everyone including the animals. He expressed
appreciation to the Soard and stated he looked forward to working with the
Board and the County administrators to further improve the quality of life
in Orange County.
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34. PAT SANFORD , Executive Director of the Animal Shelter, spoke in
support of the salary increase for teachers. She asked that the Board
fund the Animal Shelter in full so that the Animal Protection Society
could go forward with an educational campaign throughout the County to
assure compliance with the ordinance. If the Board cannot fund the
shelter fully, please include a separate grant of $4,000 to be used for
the educational program to insure compliance with the new ordinance.
35. LUANN SMYTH spoke in support of the expansion budget for the
Chapel Hill-Carrboro School system. Specifically, the money is needed for
salary supplements for teachers and staff. The teachers are underpaid and
underappreciated. She asked that the Commissioners make their decisions
about the budget based on the outcome of the last County Commissioners
election rather than on fears of some future election. The people of
Orange County have spoken for better services.
36. PENNY HODGSON asked that the Commissioners use the tax that was
voted on 50 years ago and fund the budget in full.
37. MARY BUSHNELL co-president of the Carrboro PTA, parent and
taxpayer, spoke about the importance of having a good school system. A
child has different needs at different ages. She stated that the Board
cannot afford to not fund those things that have been identified in the
budget to meet the needs of the children. It is important to attach and
keep the very best teachers possible. She asked that the district tax be
raised to seventeen cents per one hundred dollars so that the teachers are
paid as they would like them to be paid.
38. CAROL OSTEYEE , employee of the University, stated that with her
many responsibilities it is crucial that she have daycare for her child.
She emphasized the importance of having quality daycare. She receives
-' funding from United Way. She told what quality daycare means to her. She
asked that the Commissioners consider what daycare means to families in
America.
39. STAN COUNCIL stated he has two children in daycare. ~He is
grateful for the scholarship he received from the United Way so that his
children could have the advantages offered by the daycare center. There
are so many who need these services but the money is not there for them.
He hopes the Commissioners will hear his plea and do whatever is possible
to fund additional daycare services.
40. PAT DEVINE , Assistant District Attorney in Orange and Chatham
Counties, made reference to a letter mailed from the Dispute Settlement
Center and expressed concern about the overcrowded situation in the jails.
She emphasized that every person in jail, costing the citizens $11,000 a
year, does not need to be in jail. The job of the criminal courts is not
only to hold a defendant accountable for a crime but to get a victim the
rightful restitution that a victim deserves and just as important to
rehabilitate the person. This proposed program is aimed at diverting a
certain percentage of convicted felons in Orange and Chatham Counties from
prison and coming up with an alternative way to punish the particular
offender. The punishment will be designed by and takes place in the
community where the crime happened.
41. REV. DAVID HARVTN , Pastor of the Cedar Grove United Methodist
Church and coordinator for the orange County Ecumenical Farm Relief, spoke
in support of the livestock market and agricultural center. once a
commitment is given by the Hoard of Commissioners, others will come forth
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to support the Center with either money, land, or land at a reduced costs,
etc. This venture will represent an opportunity for a number of different
elements in the community to support the agriculture sector- of this
county. He expressed concern for keeping agricultural people on the land,--,~
in this County. Th~.s is an~investment which will pay for itself over time
and represent a vision of a number of people working together.
42. DIANA ALTMAN , Vice-President of the Board of the Women's Health
Counseling Service, stated that during the seventeen year history of the
Center the major concerns of women have been addressed. The Center plans
to address two issues in 1987-88 = namely, that of AIDES and Respite Care
Services providing caregivers of the elderly. The Center has remained
flexible to help women lead happier lives and prevent serious illnesses
from developing. She described the programs offered by the Service. She
asked that the County fund them at the previous level.
43. HARVEY REID spoke representing the daycare. He stated he has
two children in daycare. Without the assistance of United Way they would
not be in daycare. Daycare is valuable because of the skills the child
learns. He asked that the Board support the daycare and also the
teachers.
44. EVELYN HARRIS spoke on behalf of the Orange County Board of
inhome Care Providers. She appealed to the Commissioners to consider
their hourly wage of $3.85. They do not receive any money for gas or for
fringe benefits. The inhome care providers are being hired by the private
sector because they can pay more and furnish fringe benefits. Most of the
inhome care providers are single parents or retirees. As a recipient of
inhome care, she asked that the Board consider the salary paid to the
inhome care providers and also to consider providing fringe benefits.
45. THOMAS BROWN , Co-President of the Chapel Hill-Carrboro
Federation of Teachers, stated that excellent education opportunities for
all students in Orange County is a goal the Board should want to achieve.
The citizens of Orange County have shown support for the schools through
public comments and letters. No one in Orange County wants to see either
school district provide second rate education to the students in order to
achieve the equity that has been talked about. One school system should
not have to stand still while another catches up. He stated that once the
definition of equity is clear, the means for each school will need to be
provided so that each school in the County can reach the goal of excellent
educational opportunities for every student. The Board must provide the
leadership needed to implement whatever is needed to continue the
improvement of the schools in Orange County.
46. PHYLLIS SOCKWELL , stated that the teachers and administrators
are doing a fine job. She expressed concern with the discontinuation of
the Chapel Hill-Carrboro district tax. She stressed that if each school
system is offering the kind of programs that is appropriate for its
clientele and paying the faculties the amount needed to live in their
communities, then there is parity in funding. She asked why the Board was
unwilling to let them subsidize their own school district so that they may
provide an appropriate education for their students. She encouraged the
Board-to use the district tax to increase supplements for teachers and
support staff.
WITH NO FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS, THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED.
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Chair Marshall adjourned the meeting. The next regular meeting will
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be held on July 6, 1987 at 7:30 p.m. in the courtroom of the Old
Courthouse, Hillsborough, North Carolina.
__ Shirley. E. Marshal]., Chair
Beverly A. Blythe, Clerk
MINUTES
ORANGE COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
SPECIAL MEETING
JUNE 30, 1987
The Orange County Board of Commissioners met in special session on
June 30, 1987 at 7:30 in the courtroom of the Old Courthouse,
Hillsborough, North Carolina.
BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT: Chair Shirley. E. Marshall and Commissioners
Moses Carey, Jr., Stephen Halkioti.s, John Hartwell and Don Willhoit.
STAFF PRESENT: County Manager Kenneth R. Thompson, Assistant County
Managers William T. Laws and Albert Kittrell, EMS Director Bobby Baker,
Finance Director Gordon Baker, Clerk to the Board Beverly Blythe, Data
Processing Director Keith Brooks, Finance Deputy Office Ken Chavious,
Purchasing Director Pam Jones, Budget Analyst Donna Wagner and Personnel
Director Beverly Whitehead.
INTERIM BUDGET DOCUMENT
(A copy of this interim budget document is attached to these minutes
in the Minute Book on pages ~ O g ~
Motion was made by Commissioner Carey, seconded by Commissioner
Hartwell to adopt the interim budget from July ]., 1987 to June 30, 1988.
`: VOTE: UNANIMOUS.
SPECIAL MEETING
A special meeting for a budget work session was set for July 20 at
7:30 p.m. in the Board of Commissioners' Room.
The adoption of the budget will be done on August 3, 1987 at the
regularly scheduled meeting.
REVENUE ADJUSTMENTS REVISIONS
Ken Thompson reviewed the revenues noting any adjustments that need to
be made to the original figures.
The revenue figure for ABC was decreased by $8,000.
The revenues expected from Lands Records was increased by $11,950.
Revenues generated from the Animal Protection Society would depend on
the fees that will be charged in conjunction with the new Animal Control
Ordinance. The discussion of fees will be on the July 6 agenda.
The revenues that will be generated from the impact fees will be
placed in a reserve account until a decision is made by the Board on what
and how these funds will be expended.
The sales tax revenues were discussed. Gordon Baker informed the
Board that the revenue estimates for 1987-88 are projected to be lower
than those that were estimated for 1986-87 because revenues received for
the first three quarters of this year have been lower than the amount
estimated for that period of time.