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MINUTES
ORANGE COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
JOINT MEETING WITH BOARD OF SOCIAL SERVICES
February 9, 2010
5:30 p.m.
The Orange County Board of Commissioners met for a joint meeting with the
Social Services Board on Tuesday, February 9, 2010 at 5:30 p.m. at the Link
Government Services Center in Hillsborough, NC.
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Chair Valerie P. Foushee, and
Commissioners Alice Gordon, Pam Hemminger, Barry Jacobs, Mike Nelson, Bernadette
Pelissier, and Steve Yuhasz
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ABSENT:
COUNTY ATTORNEYS PRESENT: John Roberts
BOARD OF SOCIAL SERVICES: Joe Robbins, Chair and DSS members Harold
Russell, Albert Williams, and Pat Garavaglia
DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES STAFF PRESENT: Director Nancy
Coston, Denise Shaffer, Yvette Smith, Joyce Lee, Sharron Hinton, and Lindsey
Shewmaker
COUNTY STAFF PRESENT: County Manager Frank Clifton, Assistant County
Managers Willie Best and Gwen Harvey, and Clerk to the Board Donna S. Baker (All
other staff members will be identified appropriately below)
1. Introductions
Introductions were made.
2. Message from the DSS Board Chair
Joe Robbins said that the most important thing from last year is the new Social
Services facility at Hillsborough Commons. He said that the County has provided
wonderfully for Social Services. He said that when the County Commissioners look at
the legal assistance during the budget process, the DSS Board would like to be involved
in that discussion as it relates to DSS. He said that the board has been approached by
two judges about retaining the system as it has been. He said that the staffing situation
at DSS is an issue and he hopes the County Commissioners would approach this with
an open mind during the budget process.
Commissioner Jacobs arrived at 5:41 PM .
3. Purpose of Meeting
Social Services Director Nancy Coston said that DSS has a lot of safety net
programs and there has been an increase in the services, which has not subsided since
2000.
Lindsey Shewmaker and Nancy Coston presented the PowerPoint.
4. Background Information--ppt
• Current Recipient and Workload Statistics
• State and Federal Funding Updates and Issues
• ARRA Program Updates
Social Services Board — BOCC
Joint Meeting
Orange County Department of
Social Services
Southern Human Services Hillsborough Commons
2501 Homestead Rd. 113 Mayo St., PO Box 8181
Chapel Hill, NC 27516 Hillsborough, NC 27278
(919) 968-2000 — Main Line (919) 245-2800 — Main Line
(919) 644-3086 —Spanish Line
Social Services Board-BOCC Joint Meeting
•Introductions
•Message from DSS Board Chair
•Purpose of Meeting
•Background Information
•Current Recipient and Workload Statistics
•State and Federal Funding Updates and Issues
•ARRA Program Updates
•DSS 2009-10: Issues and Solutions
•DSS Issues for 2010-11
•Discussion
Background Information:
Current Recipient and Workload Statistics
Food and Nutrition Services
•Increased 11% for the current fiscal year
•Average increase of 21% over FY2009-10
Background Information:
Current Recipient and Workload Statistics
Food and Nutrition Services
- Increased more than 187% since 2000-01
Background Information:
Current Recipient and Workload Statistics
Medicaid Programs
•Increased 5% for the current fiscal year
•Average increase of 7.6% over FY2009-10
•State now pays the Medicaid match
Background Information:
Current Recipient and Workload Statistics
Medicaid Programs
- Increased 100% since 2000-01
Background Information:
Current Recipient and Workload Statistics
Emergency Assistance Programs
•Approximately 200 more people received some type of emergency assistance during
the first 7 months this year than the same period last year.
•More money was available in the General Assistance Program
•$145,000 in County Critical Needs Reserve funds carried forward
•$30,824 in non recurring ARRA funds
Background Information:
Current Recipient and Workload Statistics
Emergency Assistance Programs
- Agency anticipates receiving federal funds this year
Background Information:
State and Federal Funding Updates and Issues
State Cuts
•16% Cuts in Specific Programs
•Social Services Block Grant—State
•$2,987.20 Reduction
•Child Protective Services — IV-E
•$15,674.56 Reduction
•Child Protective Services —State
• $11,344.80 Reduction
•Foster Care/Adoption IV-E
•State Aid to Counties
•Cut $58,851
Background Information:
ARRA Program Updates
•ARRA Funds Received for FY 2009-10
•Anticipated Subsidized Employment$280,000 ($140,000 per federal quarter)
• Homelessness Prevention Grant $1,000,000
.3 year grant
•Child Care Subsidy $599,000
•Emergency Food and Shelter$30,824
•Food and Nutrition Services Administration $73,413
•Food and Nutrition (FNS) Benefit Increase
•Over 13% automatic increase in benefits
•$1.84 return on investment for every dollar in FNS
5. DSS Issues for 2010-11
DSS 2009-10: Issues and Solutions
•ARRA Funds for Staff
•Although two time-limited FNS positions funded by ARRA were approved,
agency used existing staff and some temporary staff instead and used ARRA
funds to make up for cut in State Aid to Counties.
•One Social Worker has been pulled from emergency assistance/child care and
temporarily reassigned to assist with the Homelessness Prevention Grant. Grant
also provides partial funding for supervision.
•Reception position from the Skills Development Center was reassigned to main
agency to assist with Homelessness Prevention Grant.
DSS 2009-10: Issues and Solutions
•Other Staffing Solutions
•Currently utilizing one time limited position to supervise work experience clients
providing janitorial services at Hillsborough Commons. This is a pilot project in
the County. Orange Enterprises continues to clean the public areas at night.
DSS 2009-10: Issues and Solutions
•Other Solutions
•Agency worked with nonprofit partners to consolidate certain emergency funds
related to shelter. It is more efficient for the community but the agency now has
more administrative responsibility.
•Worked with Employment Security Commission to provide services at the Skills
Development Center and Hillsborough Commons.
DSS Issues Identified for 2010-11
.Plan to Manage Ongoing Demand for Services
•Reassignment of staff or duties, particularly to assist clients in crisis
•Utilize time-limited staff if additional ARRA funds become available
•Continue to waive all DSS positions from hiring delays and extra paperwork.
•Focus on basic needs
DSS Issues Identified for 2010-11
•Critical Needs Funding
•Approximately $200,000 in extra federal funding was received in 2008-09
•$145,000 in County Critical Needs Reserve carry forward appropriated in 2009-
10
•$30,824 in non-recurring ARRA funds appropriated in 2009-10
•Needs continue to increase
•No recurring funding identified to meet the gap for 2010-11
DSS Issues Identified for 2010-11
•Child Care
•EBT Card
•ARRA Funds not Recurring (Loss of$599,000)
•Possible State Expansion and Streamlining of Programs
•Food and Nutrition Services Eligibility Increase to 200% of Poverty
•Categorical Eligibility
•Streamlining Food Programs
•WIC
•Free and Reduced Lunch Programs
Commissioner Hemminger asked if all of the people applying for food stamps
could be processed in one day and Nancy Coston said no. There is a 30-day window
where staff has to verify recipients' information. The emergency food program can be
expedited in about a week for those who are truly in emergency situations. There is also
some immediate food available for those that have nothing, through the Friends of DSS.
Commissioner Nelson arrived at 6:06 PM.
Yvette Smith talked about Work First clients. She said that DSS has identified 15
family members with children —those who have been on Work First and those who are
currently on Work First—that will be employed. Southern Seasons has committed to
hire five family members with the commitment to hire more. JOCCA has committed to
five family members. Social Services has identified six slots to utilize family members.
This program is in the federal legislation to be continued past September 301h
Sharron Hinton talked about the Homelessness Prevention Grant and said that
families have to basically be destitute to be viable for these funds.
Nancy Coston said that she is constantly trying to find ways to reassign staff or
duties within the agency. One of the things on the agenda for next year relates to child
care.
Commissioner Gordon arrived at 6:20 p.m.
Tina Weiler said that hopefully in July, DSS will be piloting an EBT card system
for child care, which works similarly to the food and nutrition program. A parent applying
for child care subsidy will receive a card so that the day care center can swipe the card
and would show real time when the child was dropped off. The day care providers will
be housed with the scanning station and will be paid bi-monthly or bi-weekly.
Also, DSS received $599,000 in stimulus funds, but this is not recurring, so this is
basically a loss of$599,000 for next year.
6. Discussion
Commissioner Jacobs asked about the cutoffs for utilities and if all of the utility
providers in Orange County were working with people or if there were hold outs that
should be contacted. It was answered that there is a very good working relationship with
the utility companies.
Commissioner Jacobs made reference to the Homelessness Grant and asked if it
was a combination of Durham and Orange Counties. Nancy Coston said that the grant
is an Orange County grant, but the homelessness grant does not recognize residency.
She said that they are not trying to bring in people from elsewhere, but the County can
rent an apartment in any county surrounding it.
Commissioner Yuhasz said that there are a number of different agencies with
different eligibility requirements and asked if there was any way to share information
between agencies, especially common information.
Nancy Coston said that the information regarding the school lunch program can
be shared. The information can be shared as long as the individuals give permission.
Commissioner Hemminger asked if the Information Technology problems have
been resolved within DSS. Nancy Coston said that they have the capacity now to
access files and information.
Commissioner Gordon said that she just came from an Advisory Board on Aging
meeting and they were talking about using senior coupons for the lunch program. She
asked what type of relationship DSS has with the Department on Aging. Nancy Coston
said that DSS distributes food stamps and the relationship with the Department on Aging
is very cooperative and collaborative.
Commissioner Gordon asked Nancy Coston to follow up with the Department on
Aging regarding the integrated model.
Willie Best asked about the formerly affluent that have lost their jobs and how
long it takes for them to get into the system. Nancy Coston said that they have to go
through the same process and it is a shock to them to realize how poor they have to be
to get assistance. She said that most of the people on the food and nutrition program
have probably been middle-class and working class who have lost their wage earner or
lost hourly wages and have dropped down. The higher middle-class people are above
the limits, but are getting close and are exhausting unemployment.
Commissioner Jacobs suggested doing a press release on this information.
Frank Clifton suggested calling the Editor of the Chapel Hill Herald in order to get
the information out to the public.
Commissioner Jacobs asked if the DSS Board has talked about the dual service
model and Nancy Coston said that there was a letter written by the DSS Board a few
years ago referencing that discussion. The message then was that there should be
something at both sites— Hillsborough and Chapel Hill.
Joe Robbins said that the board has not directly discussed this topic.
Commissioner Jacobs said that before he makes a decision he would like to hear from
the Board of Health and DSS.
Frank Clifton said that these two boards need to meet periodically to discuss the
common issues and where crossovers exist, because a lot of the clientele is the same.
7. Closing Remarks
Joe Robbins thanked the County Commissioners again for having them and he
commended his board for its strength. He hopes that the County Commissioners see
that the DSS staff is professional and has empathy for the clients they serve. He said
that the treatment of all clients is individualized.
Chair Foushee said that the next time these two boards meet, Joe Robbins will
not be a part of that and he will be rotating off. She thanked Joe Robbins for his years of
service and leadership.
With no further items to discuss, the meeting was adjourned at 6:51 PM.
Valerie Foushee, Chair
Donna S. Baker, CMC
Clerk to the Board
APPROVED 3/16/2010
MINUTES
ORANGE COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
BUDGET WORK SESSION
February 9, 2010
7:00 p.m.
The Orange County Board of Commissioners met for a budget work session on Tuesday,
February 9, 2010 at 7:00 p.m. at the Link Government Services Center in Hillsborough, N.C.
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Chair Valerie P. Foushee, and Commissioners
Alice Gordon, Pam Hemminger, Barry Jacobs, Mike Nelson, Bernadette Pelissier, and Steve
Yuhasz
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ABSENT:
COUNTY ATTORNEYS PRESENT: John Roberts
COUNTY STAFF PRESENT: County Manager Frank Clifton and Clerk to the Board
Donna S. Baker (All other staff members will be identified appropriately below)
A motion was made by Commissioner Hemminger, seconded by Commissioner Yuhasz
to add to the agenda a Resolution Giving Notice of Adjustment in Salary for the Sheriff and
Register of Deeds Positions.
Human Resources Director Michael McGinnis said that this resolution comes up every
four years to set the salaries for the Sheriff and the Register of Deeds. He said that this is
standard procedure.
A motion was made by Commissioner Hemminger, seconded by Commissioner Gordon
to adopt the resolution, which is incorporated by reference.
VOTE: UNANIMOUS
1. Space Issues: Update, Revere Road Reallocation, Divestiture, Hillsborough
Commons Next Steps
Revere Road Reallocation:
Frank Clifton said that this item is to discuss being proactive so that staff do not just grow
into this space and so that space can be allocated appropriately. There is also a need to
create a secure records storage area.
Asset Management and Purchasing Services Director Pam Jones said that the floor plan
stays the same and ERCD will come and occupy more space in the building. This will allow
the ERCD staff to be along the perimeter of the building and to move storage into the middle of
the building. Cooperative Extension will stay where it currently is located. The USDA Farm
Services Agency will expand a little and will now pay the County for this space.
Frank Clifton said that some of the ERCD offices will be associated with some Parks and
Recreation administration functions. He said that it is a low-key reallocation of space and it
works in the short-term.
Commissioner Yuhasz asked about the managed records storage and if there would be
any staff management of this area and Frank Clifton said no. Departments would have to
have keys to access this area.
Pam Jones said that there would be opportunities once a year to purge the records.
Commissioner Jacobs asked about lighting and Pam Jones said that there would be
windows in the front and some of the interior walls would be torn down.
Commissioner Jacobs pointed out that the HVAC in Cooperative Extension is horrible
and Pam Jones said that this will be assessed.
Frank Clifton said that the staff will prioritize this area and will bring it back for the Board
to decide how much money to spend.
Commissioner Gordon asked about Parks and Recreation administration and where this
would be located. Frank Clifton said that he would be looking at Parks and Recreation in total.
Parks Maintenance is in a rental facility and Administration is at the gym. There may be some
core functions that can interact with existing functions within ERCD. Staff is working on an
organizational study of that issue now.
Discussion ensued on how many staff could be located here.
Frank Clifton said that if the Board approves this in concept, then it will be put in a more
formal format.
Commissioner Gordon verified that USDA would be paying market rates for the rental.
The Board agreed that the staff should proceed on this issue and bring it back with
more detailed and formal information.
Divestiture:
Pam Jones said that the County is offering the old Emergency Services Center site on
New Hope Church Road for divestiture tonight. The other space is the old Purchasing office,
129 E. King Street, and there are a lot of people interested. The appraisal for the 1914 New
Hope Church Road property was $430,000.
Commissioner Nelson said that the County should divest of both of these properties.
Commissioner Gordon said that the 1914 New Hope Church Road site is centrally
located in the County. She said that this site is north of but near the population centroid. She
wonders what the thinking was on this, because the County does need to divest, but there is a
hole in this area in the Emergency Services Plan. Pam Jones said that Emergency Services
Director Frank Montes de Oca has said that he is splitting this area into two areas and part of
that is coming to Revere Road and the other is being negotiated with a fire department for a
site on Whitfield Road.
Frank Clifton said that one of the issues is to create more partnerships to co-locate
ambulances. He said that the New Hope Church Road site is not a very cost-effective
location.
Commissioner Gordon said that the New Hope Master Plan has a place for the Parks and
Recreation Maintenance facility. She asked if this building could be used for that.
Frank Clifton said that staff has had the discussion about the Parks and Recreation
Maintenance Facility and it may make more sense to have small maintenance facilities at each
park.
Commissioner Jacobs said that there is also a fire station south of this property. He said
that it is a good idea to see what the appraisal is for the old Purchasing building, but before
deciding to divest, he would like to see the Heritage Center report. He said that he received a
call today from the Chair of the Orange County Historical Museum Board that said that they
are very interested in taking over responsibility for the Heritage Center. The Historical Museum
Board is also interested in the old courthouse. Pam Jones said that this building would still be
used for courts.
With respect to the downtown Hillsborough properties, Frank Clifton said that he passed
along to the Town Manager that it might be a viable option for the Town to acquire some of
these buildings through a negotiated purchase and then sell the buildings independently, but
keep the parking lots for public parking. He thinks that the buildings would sell quicker without
the obligation of the parking lots.
Commissioner Yuhasz made reference to the New Hope Church Road building and said
that he has heard some concerns from some of the neighbors as to what the building might be
used for. He suggested putting on some restrictions.
Commissioner Nelson said that the County should proceed with putting the King Street
building on the market at the same time as the other property. He is not interested in giving
the property away. He wants to send this message to the Heritage Center representatives.
He would be open to considering giving part of it if a grant became available for the Heritage
Center.
Frank Clifton said that there are some proposed uses for this New Hope site such as a
day care center, etc.
Commissioner Jacobs asked about the buildings that have already been put up for
divestiture. Pam Jones said that the advertisements have been prepared. It will be brought
back to the Board probably within 60 days with a response.
Commissioner Yuhasz asked about the Homestead Center and John Roberts said that
the closing was supposed to be today.
Chair Foushee said that she supports divesting of these two properties (King Street and
New Hope Church Road) and Commissioners Pelissier, Yuhasz, and Gordon agreed.
The Board agreed to proceed with divestiture of these properties.
Hillsborough Commons:
Frank Clifton said that he has had Financial Services Director Clarence Grier do some
analysis. The County has to close on Hillsborough Commons by February 2012 in order for
the current agreement to be valid. He said that he made some recommendations in the
abstract. Besides the fact that the County only has two years to put the financing in place, if
the County chose to purchase this, there is a one-acre area that will not be conveyed. He said
that he is talking to the Town about parking requirements. He said that the next issue is the
timeframe to make a decision on this property. He said that the assessed valuation of the
property is $7-8 million, and the purchase price is $15 million after deducting rents, etc. He
said that the County has made the property more valuable because it is leasing space for a
15-year period. He said that a lot of the tenants are seeing a boost in their business as a
result of the County being there. If the County buys this property and tries to evict tenants,
then this could be a public relations nightmare. It would also decrease the amount of
commercial development. In the meantime, he feels pretty confident that the County could
make a case for a different purchase price. At the minimum, the lease could be extended and
the County Commissioners can discuss the price in a closed session. The County will continue
to get Medicaid reimbursements from the rentals. He thinks that there should be a revaluation
of this property.
Commissioner Nelson said that there was not really good consensus that the tax value
was a good price a couple of years ago when the agreement was negotiated. It was confirmed
that no appraisal had been done to support the cost of $15 million. He thinks that $15 million is
a lot for this property.
Frank Clifton said that he thinks the rental agreement is a good deal and it is a good idea
to co-locate services in a shopping center area.
Commissioner Hemminger said that she likes the lease situation and she does not see
the urgency in buying this right now. She would like to see the appraisal figures first. She said
that the County cannot take on more debt right now.
Frank Clifton said that the significant difference on the lease versus owning is the
Medicaid reimbursement (for DSS) of 55% of the rental costs. If the County purchases the
property, the reimbursement would only be 3-5%.
Commissioner Hemminger asked if the landlord was allowed to sell it to anyone else and
Pam Jones said yes, after February 2012.
Frank Clifton said that if the County chooses to purchase this, he would like to negotiate
to purchase the one acre as well.
Commissioner Jacobs pointed out that continuing to rent this facility keeps it on the tax
rolls, meaning that the owner pays taxes to Orange County and to Hillsborough. He said that
he is interested in having the agenda abstracts about this facility emailed to the County
Commissioners. He would also like to see a revised chart of the County's debt capacity.
Commissioner Gordon said that it sounds like there is a lot of agreement to continue with
the lease. She said that now the issue is the long-term question about the Health Department
space.
Commissioner Nelson said that the lease is great and he is not opposed to having a
conversation with the owner about the purchase price. He thinks that this would be a great
economic development opportunity. He suggested bringing the Economic Development
Director into the discussions.
Frank Clifton said that at a minimum the County could negotiate an extension on the
lease, since Orange County has only two years to decide about the purchase. It does not look
like this is going to happen in the next two years. He said that the County could talk to the
owner about extending the option to purchase date.
Commissioner Jacobs suggested getting a copy of the student presentation about this
property, because there was a redevelopment proposal.
Frank Clifton said that he would suggest opening a discussion with the owner and letting
him know that the County will be getting an appraisal.
There was consensus to stay with the lease for the current term and open
discussions with the owner about the purchase price, and to move forward with an
appraisal only if the purchase price is going to be renegotiated.
Commissioner Gordon said that the expansion at the Southern Human Services Center
factors into this because the population centroid is close to the northern part of Chapel Hill and
Carrboro and we need to consider the long-term needs. She thinks that the County should
have a substantial presence for the delivery of services in the southern part of the County
where 2/3 of the population is located.
Commissioner Jacobs said that at one time, there was some discussion about
renovations or reworking of Public Works and partnering with Hillsborough and asked if that
was off the table. Frank Clifton said that he has had discussions with the Chapel Hill Manager
about bus maintenance and possibly Chapel Hill providing maintenance service for the
County's buses. Also, Triangle Transit has had some discussions with the Town of
Hillsborough about doing a park-and-ride lot on the Town's property.
Commissioner Jacobs asked about the square footage in the Skills Development Center
and Pam Jones said 13,000.
Commissioner Hemminger asked what services were there and Pam Jones said that
Durham Tech offers classes, and Employment Security is there.
Frank Clifton said that this property was very expensive for the County to own. He said
that most of these services could be done elsewhere much less expensively.
2. Board Discussion of Dual Service Model As It Relates to Future Facility Needs
Frank Clifton said that he distributed a summary of what he could find in various minutes
of the Board of County Commissioners and various boards about the dual service model. He
said that there are varying definitions of "dual service model." In one instance it means to
locate dual services under one roof versus having the same services at each end of the
County. He said that there is a large contingency of citizens that use basic human services
and a large contingency that use a lot of other County services. He said that the basic cost
models are impacted when services are duplicated at each end of the County if the two
facilities are open at the same time. His concern is that any service delivered should be
delivered at the best quality level. He asked the County Commissioners what they thought the
dual service model meant and what types of services they would like to focus on.
Commissioner Gordon said that she thought it meant locating the same services at both
ends of the County. The situation is that the population centroid is in the southern end of the
County, but the geographic centroid is in Hillsborough. The County has stayed with the dual
service model so that human services are more accessible to everyone in the County.
Commissioner Hemminger said that she understands the cost savings, but it is really
about the time and energy and the clientele that need to use the services. She said that the
services need to be more efficient to give the citizens the best service possible. Some citizens
do not have cars and need to use buses to get to the health department, etc. She
understands that this is not cost-effective.
Frank Clifton said that he is not proposing eliminating dual services but the issue is from
a cost standpoint and what services have multiple locations. He said that the County
Commissioners should not ask the staff to compare the costs of delivery to other counties,
because Orange County is different.
Commissioner Jacobs said that he agrees with Commissioners Hemminger and Gordon
in that it is a geographic duality. He also thinks that the Manager's point is a good one and
that there can be some kind of priority order.
Commissioner Yuhasz said that the critical question is the level of service that is going to
be provided and whether it will be provided at multiple locations.
Commissioner Pelissier suggested looking at who the clients are and where they come
from. She would also like to talk about the issue of building permits and the clients.
Commissioner Nelson said that for him this is just about providing services close to where
people live. He said that the people who need the services that are being discussed are often
the people that have the hardest time getting to the services. He views this as protecting
northern Orange County as much as anything else. He thinks it is important to come back to
what this is about— people and delivering services to where the people are.
Frank Clifton said that he could work with DSS, Health, and the Department on Aging
and take a look at the client's zip codes that use the services.
Commissioner Nelson said that he does not want to forget about the possibility of a
mobile dental clinic.
Discussion ensued about the dental clinics.
Commissioner Yuhasz said that his concern is that when they look at these models that
they need to look at them in totality, and not just one piece of the service.
Chair Foushee said that it might be helpful if staff could bring back a number of service
delivery models with costs attached. Commissioner Jacobs agreed. He said that the human
services transportation was meant to take people who could not otherwise get to the human
service. He suggested factoring in a growth projection regarding the population in Orange
County.
Frank Clifton said that he would like to narrow this down to a couple of services. He
wants to provide services at the highest quality.
Commissioner Nelson agreed with Chair Foushee and said that he strongly supports
getting a strong analysis about the where the needs are. Overall, he views this as a dual-
service model and not a dual-facilities model.
With no further items to discuss, the meeting was adjourned at 9:09 PM.
Valerie Foushee, Chair
Donna S. Baker, CMC
Clerk to the Board