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MEMORANDUM
TO: Board of County Commissioners
Frank W. Clifton, County Manager
FROM: Gwen Harvey, Assistant County Manager
SUBJECT: Hunters "Dogging Deer"
DATE: November 5, 2009
This memorandum is an information update on staff efforts in response to
complaints from two (2) citizens during the fall/winter 2008-09 concerning hunters
who use dogs to hunt deer in the unincorporated areas of the County.
Complaints centered upon deer hunters who:
• Lived outside the County but leased hunting land in the County
• Allowed their dogs to run through adjacent private properties and follow
behind them, trespassing and disrespecting the property rights of others
• Used GPS collars on the dogs, further luring the hunter across private un-
leased property
In February 2009, the County Manager's Office convened a meeting that
included representatives from the NC Wildlife Resource Commission (WRC), the
Sheriffs Department, Animal Services, Planning, Legal, and County
Management. Major points of discussion were:
• History, custom and tradition -Orange County is roughly divided in half -
south of I-40 hunting dogs with deer is prohibited. This line was drawn in
the late `40s through State legislative action. In 1979 Alamance County
received legislative permission to prohibit dogging deer; Durham County
received the same in 2001.
• Protecting personal property and public safety -for property owners,
neighborhoods, hunters. and the dogs
• "Due Process" -hunters who dog deer and the landowners who lease or
allow their land to be used to hunt deer should be included in future dialog
• Legislative Approval would be required to further restrict hunting in Orange
County -stakeholders would have to be informed and public meetings
organized as prologue to any request by the BOCC for state authority
When the BOCC Legislative Agenda Committee met in the spring 2009 to
consider its recommendations to the full BOCC and State delegation for
consideration in the summer of 2009, the issue of bringing forth a request to
prohibit dogging deer was tentatively raised. One Orange County citizen had
already contacted Representative Faison and Senator Kinnaird with this thought
in mind. The BOCC Legislative Agenda Committee asked Legal to review the
background behind the Alamance and Durham County actions and for County
Management to continue its outreach to the hunting community.
On November 4, 2009, County Management convened a meeting consisting of
members .from the hunt clubs in Orange County that dog deer along with the
Sheriff, Animal Services Director, a WRC Officer, and the Staff Attorney. An
Orange County resident who makes his land available for hunters from outside
the immediate area also participated.
There were only two (2) complaints made to the BOCC in 2008/2009 about
dogging deer. The Sheriff reported only one (1) complaint about hunting with
dogs to his Department over afive-year period. The WRC Officer indicated that
there were ten (10) tracked complaints involving deer throughout his district in
2008, but indicated no violations or citations issued during 2008. He explained
the challenges of enforcing certain hunting regulations and indicated that he
received more informal complaints that clustered in a particular area of the
County known for deer hunting with dogs by non-residents.
A lively but respectful conversation ensued between the hunters and County
officials around the items of history, custom and tradition; property rights and
public safety; and due process. Feedback from the hunting community is
summarized below:
• The Caldwell Hunting Club is the oldest (since 1979) and largest
organized club in the County that use dog to hunt deer. They abide by
State and local statutes that require written permission from the land
owner to hunt on private property. They have standards of conduct,
approved by-laws, and "police" their own members. They assert "a hunter
will not shoot on private land; but can't guarantee the dogs won't cross
over private land" (i.e.; land for which there is no written permission.) They
also said their members would not pursue a dog onto properties adjacent
to the ones they have permission to hunt carrying a firearm.
• The Triad Club, it was alleged, is "the outlier" or offending club, comprised
of persons who live outside of Orange County but who lease private land
from Orange County landowners. Triad Club members were said to be
the ones creating trouble for those who are responsible and do the right
thing. The Triad Club was reported to operate mostly along Wilkerson
Road, Hurdle Mills Road, Tapp Road, Hester Road, and Walnut Grove
Church Road.
• The hunters felt their club and service activities helped fuel the local
economy and provide family-centric recreation: the land leased, the
supplies purchased, the meals eaten, and other charitable acts.
They felt that without their deer hunting or "harvesting", the deer
population would be less controlled and there would be greater damage to
local farm crops and vehicle collisions. It was noted that otherwise
farmers would obtain more permits to thin the deer population, and that
during the summer months the meat would be left to rot rather than be
consumed as it is during the hunting season. (In more informal
conversation, the WRC Officer noted to staff that he issues only a handful
of depredation permits north of I-85 by comparison with the twenty-plus
permits he issues in the southern part of the County.)
They also felt their use of GPS collars on the dogs helped manage and
direct their "chase" more effectively and safely than otherwise would be
the case; and the collars were not "shock" or control collars as members
of the non-hunting public might suspect.
• The hunters in attendance strongly urged the County not to take away
their ability to hunt deer with dogs; i.e., seek legislation similar to
Alamance and Durham County. They instead called upon citizens with
complaints to call upon Fish and Wildlife and law enforcement to respond
and take appropriate action against offenders.
As a result the hunters, State and County representatives discussed ideas and
alternatives for addressing trouble spots (outside of outright prohibition) and
came to the following understanding and agreements.
• WRC would step up its monitoring efforts, particularly in the areas known
to be hunted by the Triad Club, and educational outreach to the extent
practical within resources.
• The .Sheriff would remain cognizant and aggressive in response to citizen
complaints and advising hunters on local law and protocol.
• The hunters would increase their own vigilance surrounding safety,
courtesy, respect, and peer pressure to hunt responsibly.
• County Management would provide a meeting report (this memorandum)
to the Board.
This memorandum is provided as "information only" to the BOCC. Should there
be the need for further action at this time the BOCC is asked to advise County
Management.
Attachment
Sign-In Sheet from Meeting
November 4, 2009 Meeting Attendees
Dave Hughes
Steve Hamlin
Mac McDade
Tommy Hamlin
Jimmy Wade
Forrest Orr
Earl Brown
Lamar Chapman
Bob Marotto
Mike Rimmer
Sheriff Lindy Pendergrass
Annette Moore
Gwen Harvey