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ORANGE COUNTY BOARD OF COP9MISSIONERS
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The Orange County Board of Commissioners met in special session on
Tuesday, January 25, 1977, at 7:30 p.m., in the Commissioners' Reom of
the Courthouse in Hillsborough.
Members persent were Chairman Richard Whitted, Commissioners
Norman Gustaveson, Jan Pinney, Norman taalker, and Donald Willhoit.
Others present were S. M. Gattis, County Manager, Neal Evans,
Finance Officer, and Tom Johnson, Director of the Southcentral Office
of the Division of Health Services at Fayetteville, N. C.
Chairman Glhitted stated that the the January 10th meeting, the
Board of Commissioners had scheduled a meeting with Mr. Johnson to
discuss specific programs and the impact on these programs should
Orange County decide to withdraw from the health district.
Mr. Whitted introduced Mr. Johnson, who stated that he had reviewed
major programs in the district which received categorical State ar Federal
funds through the Division of Health Services. He stated that there was
currently $31,382 of chronic disease funds coming into the District
Health Department. Services being provided with these funds are glaucoma
testings and multiphasing screening provided by Ferson County. Lee and
Chatham Counties have glaucoma testings with Chatham County providing
a cancer detection program in Siler City.
Orange County has glaucoma testings and multiphasing screening and
these programs are supported through the general district funds rather
than through categorical grant funds. Mr. Johnson stated that the
program manager for chronic diseases had indicated that an effort would
be made if there is a change in the district to continue funding the
staff which is now being funded, therefore, in regard to chronic dis-
ease funds in Orange County, the majority of funds would go to the
district instead of Orange County.
Tn the area of Family Planning, Orange, Chatham and Lee Counties
are receiving a grant Pram the Division of Health Services in the amount
of $68,209. Mr. Johnson estimated that Orange County received approxi-
mately $26,000 of these funds. He added that Person County is currently
receiving $32,000 from Region K and Caswell County, though not receiving
such funds, is eligible.
In the Home Health Agencies, Orange County, Person and Chatham
Counties receive $48,000 in fees. These counties operate as independent
county agencies so there would be no effect should there be a split,
except far some arrangement for the continued servide of a physical
therapist. He added that fees were collected on the basis of services
rendered, so the funding level would remain the same.
Mr. Johnson stated that the largest grant coming into the District
Health Department is the Maternal and Child Health Fund which amounted
to $132,610 far this year. Funds are distributed statewide based on a
formula. Should Orange County withdraw from the district, this formula
would be reapplied to the district and to Orange County. A redistribu-
tion would result in Orange County getting 25.7 percent oz" the original
funds. Based on the existing personnel being funded by Maternal/Child
Health in the district, Orange County could expect an increase of 10 per-
cent or $13,000 and a like decrease for the district. He stated there
were $27,433 School Health Funds which are allocated, on a County by
county basis. He spoke of a Hypertension Program in Lee County which
would not be affected. Mr. Johnson stated that any change in the District
Health Department would not result in the sacrifice of services or any.
loss in State or Federal funds needed to provide those services. In
general, he added that Orange County would neither earn or lose funds by
withdrawing from the district.
Commissioner tdillhoit asked how is funding determined for specific
programs such as the Hypertension Program in Lee County. Mr. Johnson
stated that decisions axe made by the State Project DRanagers based on
a variety of factors such as level of need, population, existing services,
etc.
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Commissioner Gustaveson asked what would be the consequences to the
other counties should Orange County withdraw from the district in regard
to the on-going programs.
Mr. Johnson replied that the only effect he could speak to would 'be
the effect of cost. He added that the Counties could assume that the
administrative, cost would increase.
Mr. Gustaveson asked if Mr. Johnson knew of other counties who were
not part of a district, but had joint programs to provide professional
services through an inter-local agreement.
Mr. Johnson stated he know of services being provided only in the
administrative area.
Commissioner Gustaveson inquired if Mr. Johnson had any experience
of negative impact to other counties in terms of programs.
Mr. Johnson stated that there would be little ar no effect, except
the fact that since Orange County had the Medical Center located here,
it could be more difficult for other counties within the district to
obtain the special medical expertise, since the Medical School would no
longer be within their district. This is a concern particularly within
the Prenatal Program.
Chairman Whitted summarized Mr. Johnson's presentation. He stated
that from what he had heard, should the district split, there would nd~.
be any serious curtailment of programs provided by the State in the District.
The increase cost would be in administrative cast of personnel.
Commissioner Pinney asked if it was not true that there was a cost
saving by use of district personnel. Mr. Johnson replied, "yes".
Chairman Whitted asked Dr. Fuller the number of personnel that is shared
by more than one county within the district.
Dr. Fuller stated there was a nurse supervisor, an assistant supervisor,
a sanitarian and health director, two secretaries, one physical therapist,
one health educator, a dental hygienist and a dentist. .
Mr. Johnson stated that additional concerns were should Orange County
withdraw from the district, it could possible result in further split of
other counties from the district and a further split would cause severe
proglems, since the other counties were small.
Another concern was the existing personnel. Some serve the entire
district and some work only for Orange County. He added that if Orange
County withdrew there would be a suzplus of employees within the District
Health Department. These employees are those working for the district
within Orange County. He suggested that the Orange County Board of Commis-
sioners go on record stating that employees would be rehired to work for
the Orange County Health Department. He stated that the reasons the Orange
County Commissioners had stated for desiring to withdraw were somewhat
obscure. He urged the Board to be as specific as possible in identifying
the problems and to be logical in seeking a solution.
Chairman Whitted read a resolution from the Chatham County Board of
Commissioners expressing the desire that the five county health district
remain as it is presently constructed.
Representatives from Lee and Person Counties stated that their Boards
- of Commissioners concurred with the resolution presented from Chatham County.
Jack Woods, a Commissioner from Caswell County stated that Caswell
County had some question of the possibility of Caswell County joining with
Region G for health services.
The Orange County Finance Director reviewed with the Board a financial
feasibility report of the County's withdrawing from the Health District.
He stated that it appears that it would cost Orange County approximately
$-80,000 additional dollars over and aboard what is being allocated now to
fund a health department similar to what the County is now receiving and
with additional administrative staff. He added that if Orange County chose
to remain in the district, and to work to strengthen the present arrange-
ment, the cost would be approximately $42,OOD to pay for programs the County
had stated they desired.
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He added that according to General Statutes, Orange County would be
entitled to 35 percent of any fund balance within the District Health
Department.
The County Manager stated that he had talked with sevezal counties
who had withdrew from the district arrangement. Their reason for with-
drawing was the lack of a response from the district board. Financially,
the counties felt that the split had not cost any extra dollars.
Dr. Fuller informed the Board of a meeting scheduled for February 2,
1977, at 8:00 p.m., at the Pines in Chapel Hill. This meeting is with
the District Health Board.
The Chairman stated that the Board was now ready to explore con-
ditions for Orange Gounty to remain within the district.
He stated that his concerns were: (1) The inability to evaluate
the health needs and budget needs for the County of Orange. (2) The
structure of the District Health Board, the lack of Board meetings, and
the lack of Advisory Boards to meet the health needs in the County.
He apoke that there was a need for an active viable District Board.
(3) He spoke of his experience on the Health Task Force, which indicated
insufficient efforts to search out the health needs of the County. He
stated if Orange County stayed in the District, these needs should be
met.
Commissioner Gustaveson stated that he felt the District Health
Board failed to see its role as a active viable planning agency, which
is responsibe to the changing character of the delivery of health cane.
He added that citizens should have na input in identifying health pro-
blems. The staff of the Orange County Health Department has had diffi-
culty in contacting the District Board of Health to develops their own
ideas. Commissioner Gustaveson stated that Orange County must be assured
it has a responsibe District Bord. Responsive to the concerns of the
staff, the governing body, and the citizens of Orange County.
Commissioner Pinney stated if Orange County stayed in the district,
all Counties would be required to allocate more monies to the District
Health to pay for the changes and additions recommended. He added that
the other counties should recognize that Orange County could withdraw
at any time from the district, if these recommendations were not
instituted.
Commissioner Willhoit stated that the composition of the District
Board should provide equitable district-wide representation. He added
if Orange County is providing 35 percent of funding, he felt Orange
County could expect 35 percent representation on the Board. He spoke of
the salaries which were at the botton of the scale.
Mr. Willhoit stated that the fund balance within the Health: Depart-
ment's budget was not a measure of effectiveness, and that a primary
concern of his was a working relationship between the School of Medicine ,•
School of Public Health and the Health Department. He added that Orange
Chatham Comprehensive Health Services had not been utilized effectively.
Mr. Willhoit reminded the Board that at one time an engineer had been
employed by the Health Department and he felt there was a need for the
hiring of another engineer.
Commissioner Walker stated that the District Hoard of Health was
moving to correct some of the concerns which the Commissioners had
expressed and hoped Orange County would stay in the District.
Commissioner Gustaveson stated that some of the members of the
Board of Commissioners had serious concern about withdrawing from the
District and were trying to take a serious look at the consequences for
the other remaining counties. He added that the Board would look for
possible options and alternatives from withdrawing from the district.
xe stated that if withdrawing looked as if it would create a real dis-
aster in some of the smaller counties, he certainly would want to look
at another option, other than a single county district. He suggested
further that some of the Commissioners from the other counties respond
concerning their estimates of health needs of their county.
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Commissioner Willhoit stated that he would like to see this Board
attempt to arrive at what we think the basis problems ara, and then see
if these problems can be worked out.
Commissioner Finney suggested that if the Orange County Board agreed
to remain in the district, they should guarantee the other Boards to stay
in the district for a certain period of time and then take a later look at
the situation.
The Board of Commissioners agreed to compile a "laundry list" of con-
cerns within the District Health Department. The first item discussed was
a mox'e active District Berard of Health. Discussion ensued concerning laymen
- serving on the District Health Board.
Chairman Whitted spoke of a commitment on the part of board members to
be active and interested in the positions they held. He asked that the
other counties evaluate their membership to the Health Board.. Representa-
tives from Chatham, Person and Caswell Counties stated that they would like
to see a more active board.
The second matter discussed for the "laundry list" was the position
of a Health Administrator. Commissioner Walker stated that no decision
had been made regarding the position, however, recommendations would be
made to the Health Board.
Chairman Whitted stated that he felt the Health Administrator and the
Health Director shauld be two separate positions with one position respon-
sible to the administrative duties and the other responsible to the
clinical duties.
Commissioner Gustaveson stated that he felt there was a cluster of
problems within the structure of the District Health Department which needed
to be re-organized and input was needed from all five counties in order to
work out these problems.
He stated further that Orange County needed assurance that the District
Health Board would listen to citizens' concerns or even concerns of this
Board about inadequate health delivery of services.
-.-. Chairman Whitted stated that his earnest desire was far Orange County
to have a viable Health Department which was a responsible agency within
the community, whether it was a four county, three county, two county dis-
rict or a one county district.
He stated that Orange County would meet with the District Health Board
on the 2nd of February and would reach a decision as soon as possible.
The Board discussed briefly a.._work session for either January 31th, or
February 1, 1977, to reach a consensus regarding the District Health matter.
The meeting was then adjourned. ~
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~Richar~ Whitted, Chairman
Agatha Johnson, Clerk