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Voting aye were Commissioners Garrett, Gustaveson, Pinney and
Whitted.
Voting nay was Commissioner Walker.
The Chairman declard the motion passed.
Commissioner Gustaveson moved that in this request to the
Governor, Flora Garrett be recommended as the appointee from the
current Board of Commissioners, to the Church Commission.
This motion was seconded 'by Commissioner Whitted.
Voting aye were Commissioners Garrett, Gustaveson, Pinney and
Whitted. Voting nay was Commissioner Walker.
The Chairman declard the motion passed.
The Clerk was requested to write the Governor a letter per-
taining to these requests.
The meeting was then adjourned as the Board of Commissioners
to reconvene as a meeting of the Board o Equalization and Review
to discuss Ttem XVIII. ~\~~~•
Flora R. Garrett, Chairman
Agatha Johnson, Acting Clerk
(For Minutes of the May 18, 1976 Board of Equalization and Review
Meeting see Page 442A).
MTNUTE5 OF THE ORANGE COUNTY BOARD OF COMMSSSIONERS
Thursday, May 20, 1970
The'Orange County Board of Commissioners met in special session
on Thursday, May 20, 1976, at 7:30 p.m. in the Commissioners Room of
the Courthouse.
Members present were Chairman Flora R. Garrett, Commissioners
Norman Gustaveson, Jan Pinney, Norman Walker, and Richard Whitted.
Members absent were none.
Others present were S. M. Gattis, County Manager; Neal Evans,
Fiscal Officer; Jeff Gledhill, County Attorney; and Betty June
Hayes, Clerk to the Board.
The Chairman stated that the purpose of the meeting tonight
was to review the Facility Requirement Study as prepared by Mx.
Joseph Nassif. She stated that Mr.. Nassif had already made a pre-
liminary report and that the Commissioners were to go over the
report and since the budget is coming up very soon, a tentative
decision must be made.
Th_e Cir_'airman asked if anyone from the Board had any questions
to ask Mr. Nassif.
Mr. Sandy Davison of the Library Board of Trustees stated that
he had questions in particularly regarding the library. He referred
to page 31 of the Nassif Report concerning the wording in sentence
two at the top of the page - "comparison with Chapel Hi11's total --
circulation, etc."
Mr. Davison stated that Mr. Nassif was speaking of areas of
interest and not geographical area, which led to the conclusion that
Mr. Nassif meant that Chapel Hi11 was circulating books outside of
Chapel Hill.
Mr. Davison referred to the population of Orange County relative
to the volumes of books in the County Library. He stated that by 1990
the library should be housing about 72,500 books and the library could
not do this with 12,000 square feet of space. He referred to Page 39
of the report which showed the proposed Library to occupy 12,000 square
feet of the Grady Brown School. He then referred the Board to page
48, a graph of the proposed library and informed the Board that Mr.
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Nassif's plan included 2,000 square feet of hallway. Mr. Davison
stated that the North Carolina Library people felt a population of
27,000 should occupy 12,000 square feet of space and this was not
allowing for growth.
Mr. Davison stated that the Library Trustees were concerned
about being,shoved into a space that was not sufficient for the Library
needs.
Discussion ensued between the Board of Commissioner, Mr. Davison
and Mr. Nassif concerning the space available at the Grady Brown
School.
Mr. Nassif reminded the Board that the Facility Study had gone
a little further in suggesting locations for the different depart-
ments, that the departments did not have to go there and that the
decisions as to who occupied what space could be made at a later
time.
Mr. Gustaveson inquired of Mr. Davison "Thinking in terms of the
growth aspect and the need for space for 76,000 volumes, could this
problem be resolved within the framework of this concept or are you
seeing more, that this space cannot be used as the library?
Mr. Davison replied that within the years 1990 and 2000, you are
talking about a tremendous increase of population and an increase of
about 93,500 books. That an increase of facilities will be needed.
Dr. Charles Blake, representing the Museum asked tv speak.
Dr. Slake urged the Board not to take the cheapest solution but the
best solution. He stated that from the standpoint of the museum, the
museum should stay there. He questioned the fact of the murals on
the North Wall. Dr. Blake suggested that the decision on the proposal
be postponed for a year.
Ross Porter spoke of the beauty of Hillsborough. He spoke against
the using of the Old Courthouse for anything except as a historical
building.
- Ms. Annie Lockhart stated that she endorsed Mr. Porter's remarks.
She was opposed to moving the library to Grady Brown School. She also
suggested waiting several years and reach a better solution. She stated
'to move the museum would spoil the atmosphere. This is part of
Hillsborough that should be preserved as it is.'
Commissioner Gustaveson spoke of the historical aspect of the
Old Courthouse and stated that Mr. Nassif's concept is that..historical
buildings can stay historical buildings and be used at the same time.
Discussion ensued concerning the use of the Old Courthouse and
requirements of space by the County. ,
Commissioner Gustaveson stated that the proposal of Mr. Nassif
addressed a concept with flexibility, however it is based on renova-
tian of the Grady Brown School.
Commissioner Pinney stated that he felt only one decision had
to be made tonight and that was whether to move the Health Department.
Discussion ensued.
Commissioner Gustaveson moved that the Board accept the concept
of Proposal A of Mr. Nassif 's report and begin to discuss the schedule
of implementation such as stress tests.
This motion died for lack of a second.
Commissioner Pinney questioned Commissioner Gustaveson's usage of
the word 'concept' He asked if he meant Grady Brown School, ,jail?
Commissioner Gustaveson replied whatever needed to implement
Proposal A.
Commissioner Gustaveson moved that the Board go into executive
session for the purpose of discussing possible land acquisitions in
the Chapel Hill area and any legal difficulties.
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This motion was seconded by Commissioner Whitted.
All members voted aye.
EXECUTIVE SESSION
The Board adjourned from Executive Session to consider further
business.
Commissioner Gustaveson inquired if the Grady Brawn building
could be renovated in a phase plan and could it be financed over
more than one budget period?
Mr. Nassif stated that you must allow 8 months to a year for
renovation of Grady Brown, however, he suggested doing the addition
first and then the building could be occupied as the remainder of
the building was being renovated. He stated that he recommended
that work be done simultaneously if economically possible.
Discussion ensued concerning a possible bond issue for County
buildings as well as school addition.
Commissioner Gustaveson stated that he saw no problem with a
bond election if the need was prevalent and a gaad package was pre-
sented. He stressed the need to make a decision tonight because
work could not begin on the up coming budget until the Board knew
what they were going to do.
Commissioner Gustaveson moved that the Board accept the concept
of Proposal A and the estimated cost.
Commissioner Whitted inquired "What is the estimated cost?"
The Board agreed that the estimated cost for executing Proposal A
was about two million dollars.
Commissioner Gustaveson's motion died for lack of a second.
Commissioner Gustaveson moved that the Board begin planning
to implement Proposal A of the Nassif Report.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Whitted.
Chairman Garrett added the words 'with flexibility?'" and Mr.
Gustaveson said "no".
Commissioner Walker then suggested that the words "with
Flexibility" should be included in the motion.
Commissioner Gustaveson then stated that he felt the Proposal
A had flexibility already in it in some areas, however, other areas
did need flexibility. He then stated that it did not matter.
The Chairman .called for the vote.
Voting aye were all Commissioners.
The Chairman declared the motion passed.
Commissioner Whitted stated that he felt the Board needed to
indicate to the School Boards their action and to set a date for a
meeting with the School Boards. Mr. Gustaveson stated that this was
one of the points he wished to make. He stated further that the
Finance Officer be requested to provide the Board of Commissioners
with estimates of the limit this year's budget could stand. He also
asked that this Board continue with the implementation of the Nassif
Study by having the stress study conducted on the Grady Brown Build-
ing. Mr. Gustaveson stated that he thought the School Board needed
to know whether the Commissioners were committed to a Bond issue
and the Commissioners should indicate their intentions to the School
Board.
Commissioner Pinney and Walker stated that they felt the Commis-
sioners should wait before committing themselves to a Bond issue. To
get more information as to how much money will be needed.
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Chairman Garrett reminded the Board that the Commissioner had voted
some time ago that they would go for a bond issue in November unless
other alternatives had been presented.
The County Manager was requested to schedule a meeting with the
School Boards to discuss capital outlay.
Chairman Garnett referred the Board to an Item from the May 18th
Agenda: Section 8 Housing - A. Approval of Annual Contributions Con-
tract with HUD.
(FOR COPY OF RESOI:UTI0N SEE MINUTE DOCKET BOOK NINE, PAGE ).
Upon motion of Commissioner Pinney, seconded by Commissioner
Whiffed, it was moved an unanimously adopted to approve the annual
contributions contract with HUD.
The meeting was then a~jou~n~e~-
Fl~ora R. Garrett, Chairman
Betty June Hayes, Clerk
MINUTES OF THE ORANGE COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
Monday, May 24, 1976
The Orange County Board of Commissioners met in special session
on Monday, May 24, 1970, at 7:30 p.m., in the Commissioners Raom of
the Courthouse in Hillsborough.
Members present were Chairman Flora Garrett, Commissioners
Norman Gustaveson, Jan Pinney, and Richard Whitted.
Members absent was Norman Walker.
Others present were 5. M. Gattis, County Administrator, Neal
Evans, Fiscal Officer, and Agatha Johnson, Acting Clerk.
Chairman Garrett opened the meeting with the following remarks:
"I feel this is an appropriate time and plane to say that I love
Orange County and I have identified with its people, its historical
past and its future. During these three and half years, I have really
felt that when the people were in need with a dusty road, or a septic
tank problem, the Commissioners really cared and we identified with
these people and wanted to do something about it. I believe in:.local
government, in County government and that this is the government that is
close to the people, and the strength of our system of government lies
in the ability of local elected officials. To hear and respond to the
people here at home, dedicated men and women must be in these positions
of trust and responsibility. I want to say that I love my job, that it
has been personally rewarding and fulfilling, and I don_'t fell that
being a County Commissioner is either a liberal or conservative issue
because County issues are good gevernment issues and involves human
problems. I love my home and my family and I have been told that as
a County Commissioner T should do less but .in the next few years
the County Commissioners are going to do more. It's going to require
enormous time and vision for the challenges that lay ahead and I can't
give that time now. My husband and four children need someone who is not
at a meeting or on the telephone, someone who can go to soccer practice
with them or take them to piano lessons, go bird watching or just on
_ an outing. So, I am not going to run for re-election as County Commiss-
Toner, but I am proud of what the County has accomplished and the
direction we are taking and T see so much more that we need to do. We
have a solid financial footing and we have some tremendous programs
that we have accomplished, such as, Green Boxes, EMS Program, Recreation
Department, our Comprehensive Land Use Program is underway and many mare
that show a concern for the County's people. The citizens of the County
have been a part of all this and I am grateful for the dedication of so
many. I want to make it clear that I am not declining to serve again
because T am a woman, but because I am a mother. T think there are many
dedicated women who can and should serve in posi~.mons of trust and respon-
sibility. I hope, or T would like to think that if my husband were sitting
here today, that he would take the same choice because he is a parent of
four children who at this stage of their lives need parents. Being a