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ORANGE COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
August 11, 1975
The Board of Commissioners of Orange County met in special session
at 7:30 p.m. on Monday, August 11, 1975, in the Commissioners Room of the
Courthouse 'in Hillsborough.
Members present: Chairman Garrett and Commissioners Norman Gustaveson,-
Norman Walker and Richard Whitted.
Commissioner Jan Pinney was absent.
Mr. Kurt Jenne, Acting Town Managex'.of Chapel I3i11, Aldermen
R. D. Smith and Mr. Alvin Stevenson from the Chapel Hi11 Housing Authority
were present representing the Town of Chapel Hill.
Aldermen Fred Chamblee and John Boone and City Manager, J. L. Greeson
were present representing the Town of Carrboro.
Mr. Lane Sarver and Mr. Roger Dalton were present representing
the Council of Governments.
Repzesentatives of the Town of Hillsborough were unable to be
present because of a conflicting meeting.
This meeting was held in order that Mr. Sarver might review with
those persons present the new Section Eight housing regulations now in
the process of implementation by HUD.
Mr. Sarver started his review by saying if a qualifying (low income)
person pays 25~ of his gross income for housing I3IID, under this program,
is committed to paying the balance of his rent as long as the total paid
does not exceed HUE's estimate of the fair market rent.
The new Section Eight programs are divided into two parts. The
first part, which is not being implemented here yet, deals with new
units of housing. In Orange County approximately sixth (60) units of
this type housing will be approved. Developers, Housing Authorities
or other qualified agencies will submit proposals for these sixty units
to HUD. After appropriate review HUD will award one or more contracts
guaranteeing rent supplements to the occupants of these units. It will
be the obligation of the successful bidder then to secure private financing
and to proceed with the construction of these housing units. The
developer will have the overall responsibliity for selecting tenants
and operating these housing units.
The second part of the Section Eight program deals with existing
housing units. HUD allocated sixty-six housing units for all of Orange
County for the .fiscal year ending June 30, 1975 and expects to make an
allocation for the fiscal year 1975-1976 during the early spring of 1976.
It is proposed the program operate in this manner:
1. HUD will designate some organization as the Public Housing
Agency for Orange County This organization fray be any already
existing unit of general government or possibly one of the units
of special government such as a Redevelopment Commission or
Housing Authority.
2. The Public Housing Agency (PHA) must then advertise the
existance of this program and begin to certify eligible tenants. -'
3. A certified tenant would search on his own or with directions
from the PIiA for qualifying units of housing. These housing units
must meet all local building code requirements and in the absence
of such requirements they must meet a minimum code prescribed by
HUD.
4. Once the sixty-six units allocated to Orange Ceunty have been
filled a waiting list would be created.
HUD will alse allocate some administrative money to help operate
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this ~rogr.am. for each unit placed .in service 'ritJJ will make a
one time allocation of $275. Annually thereafter, {.:hey vain allow
8.S$ of the two bedroom non elevator rent as an administrative expense.
In the :.ase of Orange County with an initial allocation of sixty-six
units the administrative allocation would be .roughly :7,500 per year.
Mr. Sarver felt it would be most practical if the units from
Orange County could agree among themselves who would operate the
program and allocate all the administrative funds to this agency.'
This concluded Mr. 5arver's presentation. Alderman Srtith asked
- Pdr. Sarver if it were possible to approach HUD and ask for an increase
in the number of allocated units. Mr. Sarver responded by saying HUD
had advised him no additional units would be allocated at this time.
Commissioner Norman Gustaveson asked Mr. Sarver what his estimate
of the staff requirements to make *_his program successful might be?
Mr. Sarver replied he felt three persons would be an appropriate number.
One to deal with tenants, one to deal with properties and one overall
coordinator.
rqr, R, D, Smith inctrireu about the disposition of any
unallocatec units in Orange or any other County. T.4r. Sarver replie.3
that they would be reallocated to units needing them.
CZair:T~an Garrett brought up the question of haw we should proceed
at this paint. ~30~,+ shall we decide who will ~e the FF3F? Shall we work
together or separately?
Alderman Chamblee from Carrboro stated he would like to see a
joint effort. A co-anty-wiee unit might be created to operate the
pro3rarn t~a.t pia:: some prearranged patterr. of distributing units tlzrough-
out the County.
Alderrman R. '.7. Smith from Cha~~el ii11 suggested the Chape_ Hi 11
.ReQevelopment Co~~~nission be named the FHA.
Commissioner IQox=ran Gustaveson inquired about the possibility of
- a County PHA being .created that contracted the administrative function
to the Chapel Hill Housing Authority.
:rCurt Jenne stated that Chapel Hill had for a long time considered
Section Eight housing as a tool they could use to help eliminate sub-
stan~aarcl houses an~3 ±herefore felt tae necessity of exercising some
control over the Section Eight program as it is operated <<+i thin the
town limits.
It was then suggested •the County assuln~ the role of the housing
authority and tha•c. ar_ advisory group of representatives from the Ca::n•~y,
Carrboro, Chapel Hill and Hillsborough serve as the policy malting age~.t.
The administrative function could L4 contracted out to the Chapel Till
Housing Authority or some other agency.
Commissioner Norman Walker then brought up the question of r~hether
or not the County should proceed with a Section Eight housing. program?
I.3e asked ±•he questions, Is there a need for this program? j9i11 people
actually aptly fur section Eight snits?
Commissioner Richard Whitted responded by saying he was aware of
several cases in wl.tich landlords had the desire to i.mpYove housing units
but because of a lack of sufficient rents wex'e unwilling to proceed.
The Section Eight program would help eliminate this conrlitian.
Commissioner Normar_ Gustaveson then movec'_ L-he County support filing
a Section ,sight al~Llication.
Conmtissioner walker suggestec' this matter be delayed until Commis-
sioner Jan Pinney returns from vacation and the full }]oard wrnalc~ k~e on
hand to inalce this decision.
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Commissioner Norman Gustaveson then stated that he would like to
withdraw his motion,
Commissioner Richard Whitted then asked the Chairman to place the
Section Eight housing question on the agenda for the 19th.
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Flora R. Garrett, Chairman
S. M. Gattis, Acting Clerk
MINUTES
ORANGE COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
August 12, 1975
The Orange County Board of Commissioners::met in regular session on
Tuesday, August 12, 1975, in the Commissioners' Room at the Courthouse
in Hillsborough, N. C.
Members present were: Chairman Flox'a Garrett, Commissioners Norman
Gustaveson, Jan Pinney, Norman Walker and Richard ~~Thitted.
Members absent: None.
S. M. Gattis, County Manager; Neal Evans, Fiscal Officer; A. B.
Coleman, Jr., County Attorney; and Betty June Hayes, Clerk were also
present.
Chairman Garrett referred to Item #1 an the Agenda: (Recognition of
persons not on the Agenda desiring to speak with the Board of Commissioners)..
Chairman Garrett asked if anyone was present who was not on the Agenda
and wished to speak with the Berard about any matter.
Ne one came forth.
Chairman Garrett referred to Item #3 on the Agenda: (Appointments)
A. Chapel Hill Board of Adjustments: - The term of Jane Stein
expired June 30, 1975.
Commissioner Whitted nominated Jane Stein to be reappointed to the
Chapel Hill Board of Adjustment. The motion was seconded by Commissioner.
Gustaveson. Chairman Garrett inquired if there were any other nominations
to the Chapel Hill Berard of Adjustment? The Board voted to accept Jane
Stein as the appointee by acclamation.
B. Chapel Hill Planning Board: - The term of Libby Conley expired
June 30, 1975.
Upon motion of Commissioner Whitted, seconded by Commissioner Pinney,
it was moved and adopted that Libby Conley be reappointed to the Chapel
Bill Planning Board.
C. Carrboro Planning Board: The term of Marion Phillips expired
June 30, 1975. Ms. Patricia Evans has left office. Her term
expires June 30, 1978.
Chairman Garrett stated that she had received a liter from Carrboro
recommending Hilliard Caldwell of Hillsborough Road to replace Marion
Phillips and Katherine Adams of Walters Road to replace Patricia Evans.
Both would be cut of town members. Mrs. Garrett pointed out that she
was informed by Mike Caldwell of the Town of Carrboro, that a Board could
appoint someone from outside your planning district only when you could
find no one within your planning district who is willing to serve.
The County Attorney was asked to investigate the question raised by
Chairman Garrett. Action an this matter was deferred.