HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes - 19750313( u!"'~"~8 MINUTES OF THE ORANGE COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
Thursday, March 13, 1975
The Orange County Board of Commissioners met on Thursday March 13, 1975 at
8:00 p.m., in the Commissioners Roam of the Courthouse in Hillsborough, N. C.
A11 members were present.
S. M. Gattis, County Administrator; Neal Evans, Fiscal Officer; A. B. Coleman,
Jr., County Attorney; and Betty June Hayes, Clerk were present.
Ralph Lewis, former Chairman of the Person-Orange-Chatham Area Mental Health
Board; Curtis W. Bradsher, County Commissioners of Person County; Gordon White and
Henry Dunlap, County Commissioners of Chatham Gounty; Brit Parker, Kathy Townsend,
and Sherry Stracner, representatives of the Orange County Development Center;
Martha Brockwell of the Workshop Center; Gretchen Dawson, Alice Meyers, and Rollis
Pinkerton of the Mental Health Center; Henry S. Walker and Melvin Whitfield, former
members of the Orange County Board of Commissioners; Evelyn Murdock, representative
of the Volunteer Group of the Area Health Board; Pat Walton, Director of the Mental
Health Program; Pat Webb, Director of the North Central Region; Ruth Lott, Director
of the Chapel Hill Dffice of the Mental Health Center; Marie Williams, a
nurse; and Silas Coley, Interior Director of the Mental Health Center were present.
The purpose of this meeting was to review the Grant Application that had been
filed by the Person-Orange-Chatham Area Mental Health Board.
Chairman Garrett presented an Agenda to the members of the Board.
Commissioner Pinney moved for the adoption of the Agenda as ,presented. The
Board adopted the Agenda.
Chairman Garrett requested that Pat Walton speak on Item 1 on the Agenda.
THIS IS A VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT
Item l: History and involvement of the staff of Area Mental Health Board in the
Grant application for renovationg building on Northside School property
by Pat Walton.
Chairman Garrett requested Pat Walton to speak on Item 1.
Pat Walton stated, "As I have been able to recollect and tp recapture history
of the whole involvement of the Northside property by the Mental Health Center,
goes back to about July of 1973, at which time the conversation I had with Sam
Gattis, he mentioned that this property might be available to the County by the
School Board; and asked if the Mental Health Center might possible be interested
in this property as a possible site; and at that time we had just learned there
might be construction funds or renovation funds availble and I told him we'd like
to pursue this. Shortly, there after, we alerted the Regional Office of our interest
in apply8ng for construction funds about the middle of July of 1973 and there is a
certain procedure that has to be followed in arranging for the application process.
We had a visit from (Unable to decipher), representative of the Region Office and
Sally Cameron, representing the Grant Management Section in Raleigh who visited on
September 14, in 1973 and discussed the proposed renovation and seemed at that time
to be agreeable that it was feasible far us to call in a consulting architect from
Facility Services Division of Human Resources. So Ray Sawyer was called and came
in on October 24th, and I think Sam and I went over the building with him at that
time, and his purpose was to look at the building tv see if it was a feasible pro-
ject; which in his reply to us in a letter at the end of October, it seemed reason-
able for us to continue. The first mention o£ the possiblities of the construction
was made to the Area Board in November of 1973. At this time we told them of this
possib].ity and asked them, the Area Board members, to discuss it with their local
Boards of County Commissioners. As it turned out, the 1973-74 funds for construct5on
were not going to be available tv us because o£ our priority. Our priority was 3.
(Unable to decipher this statement) they only had funds to fund ppriorities 1 and 2.
So we slipped to priority 3 and the present fiscal year of '74-'75 we became priority
1 and we felt that there was reason to continue with the grant application procedure.
We worked with Jim Webb, who was the original architect of that building, and who did
some preliminary drawings for us which we had to submit with our application. The
Final application went into Raleigh on September of '74 and we received notification
in December of '74. Again at various Board meetings throughput '74 this was dis-
cussed with the Area Board. Mr. Lewis signed the Grant application at that time. In
December of 1974, we received notification that the Grant had been awarded and at
that Area Board meeting, that month, we appointed a committee of the Area Board mem-
bers to come up with some reasonable way .to alocate the charges or the local cost
for the State match, the State matching of funds, tp the three County areas. It had
been agreed that Person and Chatham, who are already contributing the overhead and
rental in place of the Administrative Offices would participate in some way. The
amount to be determined by this committee from local funds. That's pretty much where
we are right now."
Item 2: Mr. Ralph Lewis, past Chairman of the Orange-Person-Chatham Mental Health
Board, to review the action and involvement of that Board concerning their
interest in the property and the Grant application.
Chairman Garrett recognized Ralph Lewis, former Chairman of the Area Mental
Health Board.
Mr. Lewis stated, 'M rs. Walton has stated the facts as they occurred. I wish to go
over what she said. Because there has bean no engineering drawings there was no way that
the Area Board or even the Administratorof the Orange-Person-Chatham Mental Health could
determine the cast for each county. In the Grant application she used an educated guess
as to what each County could come up with -- now, as Mr. Bradsher and I as Commissioner
representatives at that time, when this first came up we felt that it was our responsibility
as well as the other Commissioner members on the Area Board, to inform their Boards of what
was taking place, of what was happening. Since there was no formal request for the funds,
we took no formal action, but the Person County Board of Commissioners was aware that this
project was underfoot and that they would be called on for some money with the definite
amount to be determined. I believe the letter raised some charges about whether I was
aware of the certain legal re-gairements of this Grant. I assure you that I am not. we
have a very capable Administrator that is aware of the procedure and I am sure who follows
all procedure but X would like for you to keep in mind one factor, that is, we are trying
to dovetail the approval of the Grant application with the availability'of the building
hoping that the two would come together at the same time. As ix turns out, the Grant money
is available but the building isn't. That's where we stand right now."
Item 3: Role of the County, both in his involvement and the Board of County Commissioners
in the Northside School property, by Mr. Sam Gattis.
Mr. Gattis stated, "Madam Chairman, 2 will have to do this from memory because I don't
have any real documentation. Sometime after the fire at the'school and 2 don't really know
how long, we got feelers, 1 suppose, form the Chapel Hill School Board to the effect that
they would be interested in making th~.s property available to the County if we had any use
for it. This must have been in early 1973 or about because from time to time, we had dis-
cussed with the Health Department the possibliity of them leaving their site on University
Campus and we had the Health Department look at the facility. It is my recollection that
they felt that the old Orange County Training School building was too far gone and beyond
that I am not sure whether they felt the newer burned building was too large oz not. There
wasn't any great interest on the part of the Health Department in going to the site. Then
according to some notes that Mrs. Walton has in July of '73, we had a meeting at that site
with some representatives of the State. Obviously, we had spme contact prior to July to
arrange this meeting and I don't really know how long that was before July of '73, but as
two people from the State came over. One was with the Mental Health Agency and one was
probably not but was from the Department of Administration or an Engineer, whose function
being to look at the building and see if there was any possibility that it might be prac-
tical to salvage it. This report, back to Mrs. walton, did come to us indicationg that it
was a practical thing to do. This was in the summer of, well, it was really done, according
to her notes, in the late Fall of '73. It was my understanding, at that time, that there
was no monies available from the State. They had a precedent of providing money in this cater
gory, but it had all been committed. Then that's about the extent of the involvement. bast
- year at Budget time when the Mental xealth people presented their Budget, I did query Mrs.
Walton on the point while we were at a Commissioners' meeting one night to review their
_ sudget, whether they had anything in their request for renovation of this building. Mrs.
Walton replied, as T recall, that no, it was not in that Budget request that they felt that
project was still sometime in the future and that it would be more appropriate that this
request be made the fiscal year that is to come up in the next few months. That's about
the extent of the involvement that the County has had directly (Unable to Decipher) several
occasions, we have had some negotiations with the Chapel Hi11.5chool Board over the possi-
ble'trat~sfer of -the property; and that's approximately the extent of our involvement."
Item 4: History ox the Regional and State involvement in the Grant Application by Mr.
Pat Webb, Regional Director.
Chairman Garrett recognized Pat Webb, Regional Director of the North Central Region.
Mr. Webb stated, "I have served in the capacity for the last twelve months as your
Regional Director far the North Central Region. This is a sixteen county region, called
North Central Region. Prior to that, I was AsSj.stant Director for Administration, in the
Central office in Raleigh, working as an Assistant to Dr. Zazzar. It was my responsibility
of one of the many that 1 had, to supervise the Construction Grant Program. The name,
Mrs. Sally Cameron, that was one of the participants, that came a yeaz or so ago; that
Mrs. Walton referred to was directly under my supervision. So I am aware of the complete
process that has gone into the present Grant that has been allocated by the State to the
Orange-Person-Chatham Mental Health Center. The Grant was confirmed by the State in December
as indicated in a letter by Dr. Zazzaz which you have on record, T believe. The initial
process as explained by Mrs. Walton is accurate and is correct. Originally, she did not
know the program here did not rank in the tog priority for two of the Construction Grants,
therefore, the request from this program was carried over into 1974. Considering the
request in July of 1974, we then initiated efforts to look at the application and to have
it submitted. We had had, at that time, had an intent filed with the Division of Mental
xealth Services. So we followed up work with the local program. Following that, the
actual application was submitted in September of '74 and was authorized by the State in
December. It does authorize 5350,000 in the State funds of an appropriation of three
m111ion dollars that was given for this purpose by the State Legislature. It does requier
15% local funding. We have had three such grants in thin region in the last two years.
The second one just went under bids last week and we are anxious to get under way with this
- one. The funds that have been obligated fbr this program were, I feel, correctly done by
the, or correctly submitted by the Area Board. The Area Board is o.ir authority that we
relate to. The applications were submitted by them. I think as to any question of commit-
ment from County Commissioners that has been satisfactory with us to come after we give
you the letter authorizing the Grant and I feel that the sequence of events that are occuzing
now are in order and we, certainly, support the approval of the Grant that has been awarded
and we hope that we can help you get underway quickly because the Grant, State funds, will
revert if we don't spend them during the fiscal year. We must get the funds obligated.
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Item 5: Other interests, comments, and involvement by members of the audience.
Chairman Garrett stated, "There.might be other persons in the audience who have
direct knowledge or some additional information that they would like to speak to
personally concerning the involvement of themselves or knowledge they may have about
the Grant process Are there any persons who want to speak? Would you please
stand and state your name?
pr. Silas Coley, Interior Director of the Mental Health Centel for the three
county areas, presented the following remarks: "My comment had to do mole with
need than background. I think that's been adequately covered in writing and in
the descriptions of our transactions. We, at this time, have reached an impoint
beyong which we cannot provide more services without more working space. We currently
use our rented office space in Chapel Hill continually. Each week day, two evenings
per week, every office is filled. That's about all we can afford in terms of secretarial
coverage. We have had to forego meetings with other representatives of other Agencies
in promoting promotion programs because we can't offer the meting space and do our com-
mitment to patient care, at the same time, space available. we are scattered around
in borrowed and rented space in seven different locations in Chapel xi11. In nine
different ones in Orange County alone, and in fourteen different ones in three counties.
This makes for a difficult problem in coordination. We feel that a certain amount
of this decentralization is appropriate; but in the instance of the leements in Chapel
Hill, it is actually detrimental to our smooth coordination of services. We were
lucky to get the lease that we did at the time we did. Some eight thousand square
feet at little over a $1.00 per square foot. I think is wildly unrealistic to ever
think we can ever get it renewed at that price. At the same time we have spent about
all the money we have available for rent. The only monies that we are allowed to
spend for rent are those other than State matching funds and Federal matching Grants,
and so we are dependent on the counties and on direct collections to fund working
space. This is money that is spent, it goes to the landlord which in this case is
the Merchants' Association, we would be saving not merely the cost of rent if we had
a more adequate building. We would be able to continue to resume or expansion of
both direct and indirect services and we would also be able to use money that we are
now spending on rent for other programs and it would then be eligible for matching
by State matching funds,.also by any subsequent Federal Grants that we are able to
obtain. 5o in effect, we could be bringing in more money on a continual basis to
the County. We are pointing out that the one significant figure and should help the
local economy in this year in which something seems to be especially needed. So
rather than a commitment for expenditure we feel that this really is an opportunity
for an investment which will constitute definite savings and even gain for the
county as a whole financially as well as in the terms of human services that we would
like to provide through the center. I would reiterate one thing, and that.'s that
our commitment from the State for construction funds is simply an authorization to
proceed. Nothing is irreversible at this point, indeed, we are feeling somewhat
anxious to obtain further approval and action of the County, so that we'll actually ~
be able to get this money and proceed with our expansion. That's all I have to say.
Thank you very much."
Chairman Garrett inquired, "Are there any other remarks from members of the
audience? 2 see two former County Commissioners sitting out there. Do you have
anyting you want to say, Mr. Henry?"
Henry Walker replied, "I just had some other business and I thought 2 would run
in and see if I could learn anything."
chairman Garrett state, "Then if there are na further questions or comments from
the audience we will now hear from the members of the Hoard of Commissioners who may
have comments and questions they wart to raise at this point."
Chairman Garrett then recognized Commissioner Walker.
Commissioner Walker stated, "2 would like to say in going over the history, Pat
was very, very accurate; but I want to bring out a few points that was sort of,
probably wasn't recognized. I would like to go over this same history the way I
see it. On February 18th, I brought in the attention of this Board the Orange-
Person-Chatham Mental Health Center Area Board did on September 12, 1974 file a
Notification to the Clearinghouse of an Intent to apply far assistance for the
proposed zenovation of the abandoned school prope=ty. This application under Section
5, Subsection B, appears to have committed Orange County in the amount of $50,000.00.
This particular item has given cause for grave concern to the Heard. They are at
a loss to explain how this commitment could be made without .the consent and knowledge
of the Hoard. A pre-application.was approved by the Triangle J council of Government
on November 20th, without first being approved by this Board of County Commissioners.
In fact, it has never been formally brought before this Board for official action and
my knowledge is that the members of this Board agreed informally to set aside this
money. The members serving on the Board at this time, as of September 12, 1974 were
Melvin Whitfield, Henry Walker, Norman Walker, Mrs. Garrett, and Mr. Whitted. It must
be clear, made clear to the North Central RegXOn Office that $50,000.00 has not been
set aside in the '74,-'75 Budget. I have in my possession all the minutes of the.
Mental Health Area Board that weak of this project and that's November 29, 1974;
January 22, 1974; October 31, 1974; and Aecember 10, 1974; and the only ting in there
is just some statement from Mrs. Walton to the Board. No action. Mrs. Walton and
Mr. Whitted stated on February 18th, 1975, at the Orange County Board meeting that
the Area Mental Health Board did approve $50,000.00, and Mrs. Walton quoted from a.
Statute that the Area Board did have the authority to do this. The minutes of the
Orange County Hoard of Commissioners will substantiate this statement. In talking
with Melvin Whitfield, which was a member of the Mental Health Board at the time,
to setlasxdeh$50 000 OOemember the Board ever taking formal action or even agreeing
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Below I have a cppy of a letter from Dr. N. P, Zarzar and Pat. Webb. 1 think we are
all aware of what is said. It said this award is made with the understanding that
561,765.OD, of local match has been se:t aside tp match State funds and it goes on to
congratulate the staff, the Area Board, and the Commissioners for setting aside this
money, of course, all of you, I think, are familiar with what is in the letter. I'll
read it if anybody would like. Then copied from the Minutes of the Orange-Person-Chatham
Mental Health Area Hoard on December 1Dth of 1975, the letter of approval came on December
2nd. On December 10, Mr. Lewis reported that approval had been granted tp proceed with
the renovation of the Northside School property. He asked that a committee be designated
to determine the contribution from each of the counties involved. That was after the
Grant had been awarded. Then, of course, he names a committee, and I would like to say
to the North Carolina Division of Mental Health Services, in my opinion, that the pro-
cedural guidelines set out by the North Carolina Division of Mental Health Services has
been violated and in my possessior_, I have a copy bf the Procedural Guidelines; also I
have in my possession, a copy of the formal application and under Facilities Information,
on page 3, Item k, it says applicant's financial resources applicable tp this facility.
They say they have cash in negotiable or non-negotiable securities o£ $61,765.00. Here
we assume $50,000.00 for Orange county and $i1,765.D0 for Person and Chatham Counties.
Under B it says indicate where applicant has a fee simple title ar leasehold interest.
The applicant indicates it has leasehold interest, It says under C if the applicant
has leasehold interest, give the following information: method .of lease 'pr other State
interest - '25 years', number of years. to run - '25 years' they ask, is the lease
renewal? They say 'yes'; and it says current appraised value of the land? They say
$100,000. Annual rent. They say they are renting it for $1.00 per year. Its says
include copy of lease agreement. They say npt available at this time, will forward
if needed, This indicates to me they are leading the State people to believe they have
this stuff i.n hand. We .all know that there is no such lease agreement. Page 7, Item 16,
in the formal application the applicant gives assurance that Part A, number one, it .
possess legal authority to apply for and receive grant pr loan and to finance and
construct the proposed facility and that a resolution pr motion to so acL has been .duly
adopted or passed as an official act by the applicant's governing Board. The Area
Mental Health's Hoards minutes reflect no such thing. Number 2, the Applicant further
gives assurance that sufficient funds will be available to meet the nan-State share of
the cost of construction of the facility and that sufficient funds will be available
when the construction is completed to assure effective operations and maintenance of the
facility for the purpose for which constructed. It is understandable why the North
Centsal-Region would approve this application, believing this to be true informantion.
I'd like to say to the Orange County Board of Commissioners my opinion that no money
can be set aside without formal action of this Board. I'd rather say to this Hoard,
had it been an agreement that we fund this program this Board knows full well that
this money is not available in the '74-'75 Budget as the application indicated. This
Hoard should be aware that we cannot justify setting aside $50,00.0.OO.for matching
Grant money when we don't awn the property which we are planning to renovate, that will
' cost anothe]E $12Q000.00 that we don't have. I would like to ask the Division of Mental
Health to rescind this application until we can get pur feet on the ground. Let this
project be put on the priority list we have and to be funded when it reaches the top
of the list."
Chairman Garrett inquired, "Mr, Walker, is that all you intend to say at this
time?" She continued, "I had asked Sam earlier to give sort of a background because
I felt like he was an impartial observer back here and was not involved in all this,
and I would like to recollPCt from my memory certain things that happened, or that I
believe happened that irnrplved every member of the Board of County Commissioners
and that is the old Board. Mr. walker was involved, and it involved Mr. Henry Walker,
and Mr. Melvin Whitfield. The notes that T have, indicate the first action, that.I
have, the discussion of the Northside School property took place on July 12., 1973, -
when it states in the minutes that Commissioner Flpra Garrett asked Dr. .Coley if he
felt it was worth investigating and that there were State funds available for con-
struction and/or renovation of facilities for the Mental Health Program. The Board
requested that the Mental Health representatives pursue the matter of securing funds
for space to house the Mental Health Center. I believe in order of events, the next
thing that happened was at budget time as Mr. Gattis stated, we asked about matching
Funds being in this current year's. budget and we were told that the precise amount
of funds and what wean necessary would not be needed for this year's budget and would
probably be epming next year. That was done at.budget time. The next thing in order
of events as I remember, is that the Health Planning Council of which -Henry Walker
is a member at that time approved the grant application; with 561,000'.00 clearly
stated in the grant "local money" it was approved by the Central Health Planning
Council and then it went pn to Region J. Now, Region J sent out two notices, first
they felt they had to have it. in quickly, since the application was sent by Mental
xealth to the Clearinghouse. They felt that they must respond quickly, so they sent
out the first notice on October 8th to the Board Chairman, Mr. Norman Walker, to
myself, as a delegate of the Triangle J Council pf Governments and to Mr. Sam Gattis
the principle for Orange County. And what it says in here is the purpose of this
procedure is to guarantee that local governments are aware of projects that may be pf
concern to them. Those receiving the notice of copies are most welcome to react, but
have no obligations to do so nar have any red tape recuirements to complete. We were
asked to react. We were sent the application and the $61,000.00 received by Mr. Walker
and myself October Bth, but Region J did not Cite it fpund it was not necessary to-dp it
without a formal Board meetinc. Sp they sent out another notice of the attempt that
this wo~~d come .to the A--95 Review Process at the regular meeting of the Council of
Governments, November 20th. Again receiving A-95 and review notification, the Chairman,
Mr. Gattis, and myself, concerning this project with the 561,000.00, November 6th, I
think it was November, it was not in the minutes,_Npvember 19th which was I think the
Board meeting at, I may have brought it up sooner, but I can't find it anywhere in the
minutes, but I officially brought up to the Board of Cpunty'Commissioners that consideration
~ would take place at the November 20th, Region J Council of Governments meeting and I
discussedaath that time what I thought was the pressing concern because T felt that all
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of us were that local money would at some time have to be appropriated. And what
I discussed was. were we interested in the total nine acres or were we interested i
in only half of it, because Chapel Hill was replying to the Council of Governments
notification by saying that they wanted some of the land for recreational space.
The Board of County Commissioners instructed me to go the the Council of Governments
meeting and say that w8 indeed wanted the who18 nine acres. I did that November
20th, and the soard of Region J approved the request stating that we were applying
for the grant, sometime before this November 19th meeting, and was a committee ap-
pointed by the Board of County Commissioners; Mr. Sam ~atti.s and Mr. Norman walker
to pursue some kind of agreem8nt or lease or whatever, for the Northside School
property. This committee was formally in action, I feel that every member,
by Mz. Whitfield, and Mr. Walker, Mr. Whined, and myself, all of us were aware
of this grant; we knew that it was being asked for and we also knew that local
money was indeed part of the downward toad towards the procedure."
(Comments between Chairman Garrett and Commissioner Walker were deleted
from the minutes at this point.)
Commissioner Gustaveson asked, "I wonder if I could address soma question to
Mr. Webb? This deals with the application, I wonder if you could go over your
understanding of the application again? I heard in your comments that the appli-
cation, the form was correctly submitted and that is your understanding of it?"
Mr, Webb replied, "Yes Sir."
Mr, Gustaveson asked, "Could you briefly comment on the nature of appli-
cations from other units, other Boards? This is a kind of problem there, I think
as Mr. Lewis said you would be trying to dovetail a number of different things at
on time. Namely, this Hoard was responsible to negotiate for property. And 2
think that you, or that the Mental Health Hoard, assumed in good faith, that this
Board was proceeding to negotiate for property; and se they hoped that the property
would be leased or purchased about the same time of the grant. Is this the common
practice that Area Boards have to try to dovetail their applications with a series
of other kinds of negotiations? It's an understandable kind of thing that you may
have some items in a grant application that is intentional good faith,"
Mr, Webb stated, "I have always found bureaucracy to work in Raleigh you know
to such an extent, that its nice to see it working in reverse here, And usually
we can't get the State or Federal money, we always have plenty of local money or donated
money; so 2'm glad to be here and I will answer any questions you ask as far as.the
intent of the application, it's accurate. If you will look at the notifications of
the Clearinghouse, that was one of the first steps that occurr8d in September; and
it reads Notification to Clearinghouse of Intent to Apply. We had many discussions
prior to this with your Area soard. The Area Board by law can acquire and hold pr
property in its own right. So its proper that it was the applicant for this pro-
ject, Following the intent, of course, the application itself, we then asked
that it gave initial approval and said proceed with the final application. That's
a lengthy document. 2 don't know how many have seen it. First, there's an initial
application and then the final application and we have right much in that process.
In this case when we sent the award of the grant it says in response to the request
made by the orange~Person-Chatham Mental Health Center. There was a copy of this
letter sent to Ralph Lewis as your Area Board Chairman. The law that establishes
Area Boards, states there is a purpose behind it having it require a County
Commissioner on Area Boards. That purpose is so that they will be aware of what
kind of commitmer_ts are being made. If there are commitments at that time or they
will be informed if it's just a matter of information and I don't disagree with
any of the comments as you see them but if you had been involved in the process as
most of us. were through th8 two years, I think you would see everybody we tried
to keep informed of what we were doing,' We 10oked at property. We talked about•
the possibilities of leases. I felt it was all done in good faith and to ask the
State to rescind the appli4ati:on - I would - as Dr. Coley said, the commi^~ment is
not here. This is what we're all seeking, is a commitment for some local funding,
in Order to get you the $350,000,00. There was a request to continue funding for
construction €rom the present Legislature for next year, This did not even get out
o£ Human Resources. The economic impact, the funds are not that plentiful, we
prpbably won't even have additional funds for many things that we have going, so 2
would say we have money in hand if it doesn't come to Orange-Person~hatham Mental
Area Health Center then it may well revert and I would hate to see the citizens
o£ this county lose and in support of what the County Commissioners certainly have
done in their support of the local Mental Health Center, I think Dr, Coley s point
is well made and I hope you all heard it and that is that presently the State cannot
use matching monies to support your rental expense but here's a chance to get eighty
five percent matching, much higher than your ordinary matching, to build a building
or to renovate one, howev8r you so choose. The Area Board has given you suggestions
to d8ai with, so I hope you wo..ld see that as an alternative, as a choice you may
never get again and certainly will not get in two years because the Budget that the
Legislature is now considering is for 1975-1977. So any new applications for
funding would have to be looked at again and set a new priority after 1977, if there
should be money made available."
Commissioner Gustaveson asked, "So as you see things, from the State perspective,
that relation to this grant that there was no sense that the State was misl8ad on
this application?"'
Mr. Webb replied, "No, we fully expected to get local funding, meaning County
Commissioners, whoever was going to own the building. As you see, you haven't
resolved that yet. That once the application and we could giv8 assurance to the
Area Board that the State has awarded the funds - now we want the assurance of what
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you are going to coo with it. We needed when we said this in December to be able to
start moving. There are other applications already having tentative approval that
could be dealt with and considered by the State. There is one in this region. The
rest are out of this region."
Commissioner Gustaveson inquired, "could you also then answer the question,
that at the meeting where these charges were made that Commissioner Walker indicated
that he had a conversation with Mrs. Cameron and that it was her explanation that
the reason that the priority Grant went from two to one is because they had read in
the application that the Orange County Commissioners had agreed to put in 550,000.00
and so that was the reason that it jumped from three to one on'the priority list?
This was a charge that was brought out and 2 would like to have you speak to this."
Commissioner Walker stated, "This was my summation, Norm, it wasn't what I
said Pat ca~neran said."
Commissioner Gustaveson replied, "This was the way the charge came out. Tt
sounded as if or it was summarized as if this was the reason the State moved it
up on the Priority List. This was the reason the State moved it up: on the Priority
List was because the State assumed the money had been appropriated. This is what you
were saying?"
commissioner Walker answered, "Right."
(Commissioner Walker, commissioner Gustaveson, and Pat webb all were speaking
at this time. Unable to decipher comments other than the fact that Commissioner
Walker clarified that it was Sally Cameron, not Pat Cameron).
Pat Webb stated, "I, of course, was not a participant in that conversation.
2 cannot see unles it's just somewhat eu: ofcontext with everything else she might
have been saying about the whole process. As 2 recall there were some fifteen ap-
plications that we were reviewing at the time we settled on the eight that did get
approved. There were two in North Central; that there was never even anything that
verified any kind of county commitment from the discussion that is occurred out of
orange County, which is the first time that an application has been challenged and
I assume before the people wanted the building and that was the assumption that we
probably will in the future ask for some type of resolution or indication that every-
body is willing to proceed if it gets approved, but you certainly learn through your
mistakes and 2 think this really gets down to a point of do we want the building or
do we notA Do we want 5350,000.00 by gibing $61,000.00 or do we not? Dc we want
to save some eight to ten thousand dollars per year in rent or do we not? This is
the way we see it. I was going to make the other statement that we recently did
an area review, it was in December here, for the Orange-Pers®n.-Chatham and one of
the most critical issues that came out in that area review; and some of you were
present for those two days, was the need for space. Dr. Coley mentioned that when
you have seven locations there is no way you can b~ efficient. There is no way that
staff can work together as a team. There is no way that patients can feel that
comfortable going in and out of seven different locations trying to get services; so
I say, you know, you are right to look at your money. You are certainly accountable
far it, and to ask questions about it is your right and I say it is appropriate to
do so; but T certainly hope you see an opportunity here that you may not get again
for a long whi.l-e.. The other pazt of it is 2 would like to give credit to your own
Orange-Person-Chatham Mental. Health Center, two of you serve on that 1~rea Board,
and in the Area Review we pointed out that the per capita expenditure for this
program ranks second in this region. Number one is Alamance-Caswell Mental Health
Center with a little more than $15.00 per capita for Mental. Health Services and
this area gets thirteen, a little better than $13.00 per capita; but in contrast to
all the other programs you are at the very bottom, ninth in this region, in the amount
of County tax dollars that ycu put into this program. You rank at about a per
tentage of A.9, whereas the average is somewhere ahautthirty or forty per cent. I
would hope that you would look at an opportunity to put in a small amount of County
funds in order to get a.big chunk of what you are entitle to."
Commissioner Pinney stated, "The only thing that Mr. Walker brought up that
I am curious about is about the leasehold interest and the twenty-five years and the
lease renewable for a dollar a }+ear. Is this aorta normal in a Grant?'
Mrs. Walton requested permission to answer the question.
Mr. Webb replied, "I would think that so far we have not had an application that
involves a lease. 47e have not before had an application that involved three counties,
I think you indirectly lead to that while ago, so there is some uniqueness about this
particular application."
(Cormissioner walker, Pat L.Tebb, and Mrs. Walton toere all speaking at this time;
unable to decipher comments.l
Mrs..h'alton stated, "When Sam and I *_alked about the acquisition of this property
we were talking ir. terms of the county acquiring the propert}= and owning it, holding
title to it. Then i-r. *_urr., ,he County would lease the particular building that the
Mental Health Center i~ intereste3 in to the Mental Health Board and we were talking
..n terms of a nominal sum, a dollar a year for probably aroe:nd twenty-five years.
It would have to be in excess of twenty years in order for the application. So that's
where the dollar a year for twenty-fide Rears would not be your arrangement with the
School Board, but would be the Mental Health Board's with the County."
Commissioner Walker states, "But Pat, you didn't have that such ~.rrangement
when you said you did in the application. This is the point 2 think you .
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Mrs. Walton interupted by saying, "We didn't have the money either. Whenever
you make a Grant application you••do it in anticipation of things to rome.. Not only ~
local funds but the arrangements for this partic^~lar building and Sally Cameron and I
discussed this on several occasions and she was verb' *!uch aware of the fact that we
didn't have a lease on that building. That's why we: didn't send the lease at that
time. Sam and I talked about that and it was hoped that by the time everything was
approved by the State that the lease would be :available and as Mr. Lewis said it
didn't quite dovetail.
Commissioner Walker replied, "If what you are saying is true then I don't
have any argument, sir. It says here in the application to give assurances and you
have given these assurances to the State people. Now if you can make Grants
knowing full well that these assurances are not true, then I don't have any argu-
ment, six."
Pat Webb replied, "The assurances, in regards to our satisfaction, werecpven
as representative of the Area Mental .Health Board. we do not come and meet with
you as a group."
Commissioner Walker stated, "They assure you that they will have funds to
match
Mrs. Walton triterrupted saying, "They will have or they will have funds available."
Commissioner Walker continued, "It says sufficient funds will be available. .
Mrs. Walton ntexrupte3 by saying, "Will be available .
Mr. Webb stated, "That's what the application says."
Mrs. Walton stated, "Will be available, that's what the application says. It
doesn't say - are available now."
Commissioner Walker asked, "How can you give that assurance before unless this
Board has already given you .
Mrs. Walton answered, "Because the Area Hoard committed itself to raise the funds.
We didn't say that we'd come to the County Commissioners necessarily for all of those
Commissioner Walker stated, '.'Dr. Zarzar congratulated the County Commissioners
in his letter .
Pat Webb stated, "Xeah."
Commissioner Walker continued, "For assuring the money.
Pat Webb stated, "Can I make one The letter that you refer to as assuring
the money, as you correctly read it, does say it has been Get aside. This was the
same phrasing that we use in all the awards and it does mean there is an intent to be
able to fund the project as I have said the Area Board was !living us that assurance.
That same letter did, in the third paragraph, which indicates there is no closure to
the entire process as of December 2, It reads that this review indicates that the
budget for the project is not sufficient, therefore, either additional local funds
must be secured or the project scope reduced. So we knew we still had a great deal
of negotiations ahead of us in working with your Mental Health Center to ever come up
with the final proposal. Working with your architect, you still won't know what the
cost is gonna be until you get some pretty specific preliminary plans by your architect
and you wouldn't want to commit an architect to go that far until you had some assurance
from us. 5o it took us to get you where you are getting today, X feel." .
Commissioner walker stated, "Thank you, but let me say this to you. I'd 7.ike to
ask you is this normal everyday procedure in granting applications, granting State
money."
Mr. Webb answered, "NO, it is not."
Commissioner walker states, "I't is not. You would say it is irregular, what has
taken place here?"
Mr. Webb replied, "I don't call it irregular. I was answering no to the question
"Is it everyday procedure' because we don't grant these kind of Construction Grants.
It's capital improvement, which is entirely a different appropriation which was given
for specific purposes in a limited sum exceeding $350,000.00 and you have to go t`_-rough
all the processes your Chairman took you through a few minutes ago, Clearinghouses and
the rest. We have ended up for many years dealing with the Federal and State where
we did get a combination of funds getting a lot of projects approved, but not funded.
So rather than tie up your local funds we knew we had the State funds. We proceeded
as fast as we could and from September to December set a new record, which thank good-
ness, isn't day to day operations."
Commissioner Walker states, "This was not like you would normally go about a normal
procedure?"
Mr. Webb replied, "Well, this has been the, this procedure that you have been
awarded a grant, the applications came in, has worked in oth?r eight applications and
they are getting a bit ahead of you because they are already, ?s I was indicating,
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going out for bids now. So the procedure here is a little bit different because
as T said, it's a three county project; and you were counting locally, the Area
F3oard was, to qet some participation from each of the three counties. The other
ones there was no question, the County wanted to own the building. It was, you
know, something that they really wanted to symbolize the success with Mental health
center. In this onethere's three involved, so you know, their job really couldn't
begin as I see it, until they got the commitment from the State .
Commissioner Walker stated, "O.K., then if this is the way Grants are made then
I have no argument:"
Mr. Webb stated, "Y would say this is the way the grants is for this program,
a three county program. Yes."
commissioner Walker stated, "O.K., Thank you. Could Iask you another question?'
Chairman Garrett stated, "Yes."
Commissioner Walker stated, "As we go back to the minutes of the Area Mental Health
Board, saying that they have approved this and Mx. Whitted and Mrs., Walton, they
stated at our meeting here, and records will bear me out; that the Area Health and
Mental Board did approve this. May I ask why the minutes don't show this?"
Mrs. Walton replied, "There was no formal approval given."
Commissioner walker stated, "It says in the ( Unable to Decipher 1 application.
It assures that approval has been given."
Mrs. Walton stated, "Informal approval was given. It was not formalized in a
resolution of the Board."
Commissioner Walker stated, "But you stated in our minutes that it was, see
this is the point I'm saying.
(Mrs. Walton and commissioner Walker were both talking at the same time, unable
to decipher comments.)
Mr. Lewis interrupted,"Mrs. Garrett, Mr. Walker, I would like to make a speech
at that point."
Mr. Coleman asked,.:."Mr. Lewis, would you please come up so we can hear you
clearly for the record, please°"
Mr. Lewis stated, "If our Minutes doesn't state that a formal approval was
given, I would like to point out that the Minutes also don't state that any
Commissioner member of the Area Board objected to it. They were all in agreement
with the program."
Commissioner Walker stated, "Thank ycu Mr. Lewis Could I read from the thing
that says authority to apply for or receive grant or loan and to finance construction
program so and its giving assurance that a resolution, motion, or similar action has
been duly adopted, so according to the application you're saying you did pass an
official act; but you're saying you didn't?•
Mr. Lewis replied, "The minutes doesn't state that official action was taken.
The AK'ea Board was in agreement and the Commissioner representatives didn't register
any dissent, and if they had registered any dissent it would have been in the minutes.
So I talked with Mr. Melvin Whitfield about this. Fie was on the Board at the time.
And maybe I can recollect what he told me."
Commissioner Walker asked, "Mr. Whitfield, could you tell us any recollection
that you have of such a motion being passed or any commitment being made?"
Mr. Whitfield stated, "As I recall the thing when it was discussed amortgthe
Mental Health Board that the staff was making:-an application for this grant; and i£ it
was granted than they were going to be looking for some money, but so far as any
official action being taken, I don't recall any official action being taken as to what
would be done. I know, I recall that it was discussed at one time about the money if
it was granted it would have to be prorated between Drange, Chatham, and Person; but
there was nothing definite on where it would go; and there was never any official
action taken=by the Board for the grant or for the application either one. I was
aware and i feel that all the Board here was aware that the Mental Health was
making application for the grant; but as far as official action by either Board, the
Board of Commissioners or the Area Board, as I recall, it was never taken by either one."
Commissioner Walker asked, "Could I ask you one other question? Mr. Wnitted
indicated on the eighteenth that the Commissioners was in agreement, that this money was
_. being granted. Do you ever remember this Board ever informally agreeing to produce
SSO,000;OO for this project?"
Mr. Whitfield replied, "N O, T don't recall the Board ever agreeing to finance any
part of it; but I think the whole Board was aware that it was in the process and it
would be called on to; but as far as us making an agreement that we would give
$50,000.00 6r aay amount of money. I don't recall no agreement being made as an
official agreement on what would be done on it."
r Chairman Garrett stated, "Excuse me, Mr. Gustaveson."
Commissioner Gustaveson stated, "Do you recall at Board meetings any objections?"
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Mr. Whitfield answered, "NO, I don't recall any objections to the grant application
being made for the grant whatever. Nobody objected to the application being made and all
the Area Board members, I'm sure, was aware that there would be some money wanted, but, as
for myself, I made no committtient to raise the money, course I didn't say it wouldn't be
raised. They were making application because I knew that it was a matter that when the time
came then were going to be looking for somE money; and that would be up to the Board of
;.ommissioners. I didn't realize in the application, I didn't know, that these facts had
teen sta±ed that the money was aside and all this. I never seen the application myself and
I 'sinew nothing, all i knew was that the staff was working on it and making application."
Chairman Garrett asked, "Are there any additional questions for Mr. Whitfield?"
Thank you. Are therE any additional questions? Mr. Whitted.".
Commissioner Whitted replied, "No, I don't think I have any questions. I'd like
to make a statement at this point. I've listened v~Ery objectively, of coursE, I have
been involved as a Area Mental Health Hoard member and a County Commissioner, maybe z
was aware of more things going on than some of the other members and it's a possibility,
that I, as an Area Mental Board member, could communicate effectively with this Board,
but I think it's been shown that all the Commissioners at that time were aware that the
application was being. made and that local money would $ei necessary. I think that the
reason this meeting was called was to get some questions answered that was raised at an earlier
meeting by Mr. Walker; and I tried to bE objective in listening; I don't think that any
well-greased cover-up was taking place; and I think that everybody was stating what they
thought, what they felt were the circumstances as they proceeded to make this application
and the State in awarding the application. And certainly no one at any point thought
they were committing any money, any funds for the County Commissioners and the County
Commissioners did not commit any; and as Mr. Webb pointed cut that the sequence of events
is, as far as assurance at this point or a letter of intent from the local government
about the local money which they said was appropriated and which was the proper .sequence
of events. And I think it has been amply pointed out that the A-.95 Review Process with
the Council of Governments would be made aware to the members of this Board and the
representatives that represent us at the Council of Governments, the County Manager,
and also to the Chairman at that time, and no questions were raised then about the
561,D00.00 local match. Again, as I said before, I felt that some misundezstanding
probably occurred from lack of proper communication, but I do feel that at this point most
of the questions that I have heard raised have been answered at this point; and to ask
the State to rescind this grant at this point would not indicate that this Board, and I
would not be in favor of doing that .at this .timE. as a me_nber of this Board and a member
of the Area Mental Health Board, to do that mould indicate that we are not willing to pro-
vide the necessary services. It's been pointed out by Mr. Webb, and I have seen the
review from the site visit group and I am furthur aware of the space limitations that
Mental Health Canter is faced with in Orange County; and I do fEel. that in order to
serve the clients of the Mental Health Canter it is necessary at this paint, to either
acquire this Northside site, which to me is 'the most feasible at this point, to pro-
vide the necessary space. I guess, in summing what I've been trying to say, is that,
T guess I can see the questions in Mr. Walker's hand, he has indicated at certain
points that the procedure has been explained and he has no further questions on some --
points and that any other points I hcpe are cleared up for him now because we are at
a critical point where we need to move on with this project. Does anybody have any
other comments?"
Commissioner Walker replied, "I would like to say, that it's clear in a fashion;
but I certainly disagree with the procedure of giving applications (Unable to Decipher).
T certainly am in accord with Mental Health. It is a. very worthy cause to the County.'
but as we point out the need, i have read this history of Mental Health sincE it. came
to Orange County, I van tell you right now; and it states here in comparison to the rear,
of the United States, North Carolina is one of the leaders in pursuing cpmmunity Mental'
Health goals so I wonder how wE stand in the way of need if cur need is of course
greater than anybody ekes sincE we are]eaders in North Carolina."
Chairman Garrett inquired, "Are there any additional questions? If there are
no further questions, comments, we certainly appreciate your coming tonight. Yes, Mr.
Dunlap."
Mr. Henry Dunlap, Commissioner from Chatham County, stated, "I am a new member.
Mr. White really should probably speak to this, but I have spoken with each of our '
commissioners and former Commissioners and/no one was ever apprised of the, even the '
approach to the situation, that I can ascertain. My point is that if we're. liable
for the $11,000.00, or half of, the $11,000.00, we're not prepared in our budget as
of this year to fund that money. It has not beEn approved."
Commissioner walker stated, "Excuse me and thank you sir, and I d like to reiterate
what Benny Bradsher told me, it's a little contrary to what Mr. Lewis has said. I talked
to him sometime a week or two ago, and he said he had no knowledge of any commitment of
the Person County Board whatsoever. He had turned this over to Mr. Ralph Lewis and I
assume here that. he was appointed by Mr. Lewis to the Area Health Board as one .of the re-
presentatives of Person County. 3e was Listed as owe."
Commissoner•:4hitted asked, "Is he a member of the Area Mental Health Board?"
Commissioner Walker replied, "No, Benny SradshEr is the Chairman of the Board."
(Some questions and answers concerning this appointment were briefly exchanged
between Cammisssianer Whitted, Mx. Lewis, Mr. Curtis Bradsher, and Commissioner Walker.
CIInable to decipher all of this.)
commissioner Walker continued, "Hut I have talked with the Chairman of the Board
and he knows nothing about any commitment from Person County. I scare wish he could have
been here tonight."
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Chairman Garrett asked, "Are there any additional questions"
Commissioner Walker replied, "I would like tv ask Mr. Webb now, that Chatham
County can't contribute their money how will this affect the Grant application?"
Mr. Webb stated, "The Area Board has the commitment to come up with the local
funds and as I have said before, it will be up to them as to,how they will fund it.
_ Their proposal was that all three counties would share in it. It does not have to
be that way. 2 don't know if there are other alternatives for funding or not, we'd
have to direct that to the Area Soard as the applicants."
commissioner Walker stated, ^Well, I daze say, that they could commit a
County Hoard too, the Area Board, I don't; I'd like for Pat to quote that statute
to the Area Hoard too
Mrs. Walton i~errupted, "The Area Board cannot allocate or commit County
_ funds. The area Board has budgetary authority to set a budget and then to seek
funds."
Garrett
Chairman/stated, "Mr. Gustaveson."
Commissioner walker stated, "z would make the point quite clear now, if
Mr. Whitted would speak back to what Pat has said."
Commissioner Whined stated, "I didn't realize I was saying anything different
from what she said. The Area Hoard is the local authority as the State sanctions
it by law; ar_d they do have the authority to acquire and hold property and to provide
funding. Part of that funding, one of the 34 sources of funding that support the
Mental xealth Center, is Orange County Commissioners' tax dollars that you put into
it, some small .(Unable to decipher)."
Commissioner Walker stated, "Now that Mr. Wh~.te has told you that Chatham
County cannot come through with their obligation, where does that put you and the
Area Board?"
Mr. Webb replied, "It puts us st111 awarding a Grant to an Area Hoard and puts
obligations to the Area Soard to come up with $61,000.00."
Chairman Garrett stated, "Excuse me just a minute; 2 don't believe Mr. Dunlap
said they cannot come up with the money. He said that it has not been programed .
Mr. Dunlap intemlpted, "I do not know what the present Board feelings would
be, I would not make any statement towards their present view; certainly do not
speak for the rest of them, and as, I would certainly be in favor of any progress
towards Mental Health; and T am presently on the Soard here and will be I hope,
but I was just trying to point out the .
Chairman Garrett intemspted„ "We haven't committed a thing so we have (Unable
to decipher), Mr. Lewis."
Mr. Lewis stated, "Mrs. Garrett, Person County is like Chatham and Orange. It
has not committed any funds either. I called Mr. Benny $radsher, after I got this
letter, to remind him about the statement that I made at a Commissioners' meeting.
I was a member of the Hoard of commissionezs at that time, along with Curtis, and
we informed the other three Commissioners what was going on and that both of the
funds would be solved at a later date. And there was no need to take any action,
we thought, at that time, since there was no request making the specific amount;
and .as Pat has already stated that when they make, when the Mental Health Board
makes their Budget request for '74-'75, there was no indication that this grant
would be approved so soon. They were reacting from honest motives. Now since
the Grant is here, Person county doesn't have any money an its budget this year
for its Grants. Now I feel that the Commissioners were .
(Something happened to machine at this point: It was either cut off or there
was a malfunction in the tape.)
CommissionEr Gustaveson stated, "I would like to move that the Orange County
Board of Commissioners reaffirm its support of the Orange-.C}Tatham-Person Mental
Health Hoard, and its efforts to provide adequate facilities for its services in
these three counties; and this Board move with vigor and concern for, to renew its
efforts of negotiating for the purchase or lease of the Northside property."
Chairman Garrett called for a second to the motio».
Commissioner Whitted, "I second it."
Chairman Garrett stated, "We have moved and seconded it. Is there any
discussion?"
Commissioner Walker stated, "Yes, 2 think its very proper at this time, what .
you are doing; we are actually voting to buy the property before we negotiate the
price. And we are voting to put an $80,000.00 match in before our Budget year
comes up in '7S-'76.
~ Chairman Garrett stated, "That's not what the motion stated .
Commissioner Walker interrupted., "In effect is what we are doing Mrs. Garrett."
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Chairman Garrett stated, "Would you like to read your whole motion again?"
Commissioner Gustaveson stated, "Tn renewing the negotiation for the purchase
yr lease of the Northside property."
Commissioner Walker stated, "Read the whole motion then I think then you will
understand it better Mrs, Garrett."
Chairman Garrett stated, "Would you like to read your whole motion again?"
Commissioner Gustaveson stated, "I think down the road yo:1 are correct but at
this point the first step is really to go back to where we started in October,
as a member of the Committee to negotiate for the purchase of the lease of the
Northside property. Well, the first part is just simply the Orange County Board
of Commissioners reaffirm tv support of the Orange-Chatham-Person Mental Health
Board in its effort to provide adequate facilities for its services in the three
counties; and that this Board renew its efforts by continuing or renewing its
negotiations with the Chapel Hill school Board for the purchase or lease of the
Northside property."
(Comments of Commissioner Walker and Chairman Garrett are deleted £rom
the minutes at this point.)
Commissioner Walker stated, "I can't understand a Hoard that would proceed
with information like this, regardless of what has been said here tonight, 1
c&nno-t see .
Chairman Garrett stated, Mr. Walker, T would like to say this, you first
received notification of that S61,OOO.OO.on October 8th. Why didn't you say
something if you were so concerned?"
Commissioner Walker replied, "Well, I feel, I say myself getting .
(This discussion ended at this point. The machine was either cut off or
something hapgened to the tape. THE. VERBATIM PORTION OF THIS TAPE ENDS HERE.)
Further discussion ensued.
chairman Garrett called for a vote on the motion.
Commissioners Garrett, Gustaveson, Pinney, aild ..Whitted voted aye.
Commissioner Walker voted nay. -
Chairman Garrett declared the motion passed.
A, B. Coleman, Jr., County Attorney, reported that he had.a conference with
Marion sanks, Assistant Attorney General concerning the meeting o.f M.arch 18th,
with respect to the appraising the UNC property and we have agreed to an informal
meeting. Mr'. Coleman stated that Mr. Banks would make a formal objection to the
property values that triad been placed on the t1NC lands; and there will be no '
questioning of Mr. Laws, the Tax Supervisor. Mr. Coleman stated Mr. Laws would
present a list of the properties, identify it, and give the appraised value. Mr.
Coleman explained the Fermat that he planned to use in wor{ing with the Assistant
Attorney General. He stated that the legal question did involve whether or not
public lands could be taxed. However the use of these lands was the basis of.
the taxing policy.
It was understood between the County Attorney and the Board that it any
compromise was reached on. the matter that the Board would review the compromise prior
to any action being taken.
Discussion ensued.
There being no further business to come before the Board, the meeting was
adjourned.
Flora Garrett, Chairman
Betty June Hayes, Clerk .~